Is The Brotherhood of Steel or The Minutemen the most /k/

>Elitist weapons hoarders with a military fetish or Bleeding heart ivory tower busy bodies
Brotherhood I guess, but the real right answer for fallout is the Boomers.

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>>34806795
>Is The Brotherhood of Steel or The Minutemen the most /k/ faction in Fallout 4?
Who cares, Fallout 4s story was fucking garbage.

Todd and his cronies ruined the franchise.

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>>34806824
This, Boomers are one of the most /k/ factions in history of vidya.

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>>34807310
>all their lives they dreamed of flying high over the irradiated wastes
>dropping hot sticky loads all over disgusting raiders and savages
>an entire faction that sexually identifies as a Boeing B-29 Superfortress

>>34806795
Either fallout 1 brotherhood or the new Vegas brotherhood. The nazis would probably be a fallout 2 enclave type group but wouldn't nearly be as dangerous.

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>>34807281
This.
Fallout 3 was not terrible but i accredit it to it having just a slightly more creepy vibe than fallout 4. Fallout 4 just felt like a cartoon shooter with a shit story

>>34807281
>FO3 kiddies mad about FO4

Doesn't even compare to being an old fan and getting the abomination that is FO3 when we could have had Van Buren.

>>34807715
>>34807687
I'm not a FO3 kid.

I've put more hours into NV than 3,4 combined. 1,2 will always hold a place in my heart because they were so good. Gameplay is dated, but the atmosphere and stories were great.

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>>34807687
>Fallout 3 was not terrible but i accredit it to it having just a slightly more creepy vibe than fallout 4.


Get the fuck out. Pick up your shit and get the fuck out.

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>>34807310
Strangely enough, the most /k/ person wasn't in the most /k/ faction.

>>34806795
>Fallout 4
Fuck off back to wherever you came from.

>>34807715
>Anything involving Sawyer
>Ever being good

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>>34806795
NCR

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I liked all the Fallout games just about equally. Always found it funny that the least polished/finished game gets the most praise.

Minutemen would have been a lot better if they actually existed beyond oddball settlers just hanging around. Just because you have a flag doesn't mean you're an army. At least the BOS actually wandered around and killed shit.

>you will never roam around with a few guys in tricorn hats and an eyebot playing yankee doodle while you blast super mutants and other illegal aliens in vertibirds

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>>34808357
>I liked all the Fallout games just about equally

I loved New Vegas, FO3 and FO4 are textbook cases of missed opportunity and Zenimax setting arbitrary deadlines pushing out broken games. Also I wished the Minutemen had a larger role in the game that isn't locked behind cut content.

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>>34806795

Neither because they're laser goofs

Only /k/ choice is Mysterious Stranger

>>34808407
>Pushing out broken games

Did you not play NV when it released? It was easily the buggiest major release of the fallout franchise. Basically it felt like a heavily modded Fallout 3, lots of neat features but you often fall through the floor and shit.

>>34807687
>FO3 was the first bethesda RPG i played and 2nd rpg in general(if you count fable as an RPG)
to me the first hour or two was amazing and got me intrested in the lore, i think i put 100hrs+ into FO3 and i got all the DLC. I like FO4 even though its more of a Open world shooter like Farcry than an RPG, which is still cool

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>>34806795
*bombs your path*

>>34806795
Ncr bruh

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REMOVE THE TOASTER JEW

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>>34808946
*blocks your path*

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>>34810216
*blocks your existence*

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>>34810306
>get hunting shotgun mod for Fallout4
>find hunting shotgun with explosive shot
>mfw

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>>34808198
seconded for .45 automatic pistol man

>>34806795
The "not playing a game for teenagers," is the most /k/ faction in IP Exploitation 4.

>>34808357
>build up all my settlements
>give people high-ordinance and legendary equipment like grenades, combat armor, and rocket launchers to the point it looks like a Boomers' Colony with Enclave-capture turrets.
>Watch them wipe out entire parties of attacking super mutants and raiders in less than 20 seconds in a shower of grenade and rocket spam that would make Macrosse proud

And yet I still get asked to come out and deal with zombies and shit, and can't ask any of them to give me a god-damn hand.

I wish there was a "Militia-service guarantees citizenship"-style option for settlers, because they can get fucked if they don't want to be part of my emerging private tricorn army.

>>34808639
Admittedly, they were given a year and a half to shit the game out.

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>>34810501
>build up settlements
>concrete floor wall
>elevator watch towers
>missile turrets fucking everywhere
>internal food and water supply to break any siege
>200 defense minimum
>provisioners are all armored up sentry bots equipped with shoulder mounted mortars, missile launchers and laser Gatling guns
>modded up leveled minutemen in powered armor patrol settlements

>you failed to defend Abernathy Farm

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>>34810501
>build up settlement
>heavy laser and missile turrets everywhere
>give settlers best armor and weapons
>settlement is a abernathy farm
>huge amount of crops

gunners spawn inside the walls and throw molotov cocktails in the fields

>>34806824

The Boomers ARE /k/.

> hole up in a Vault full of weapons
> Overseer won't let them use the fun stuff
> SHALL
> NOT
> BE
> INFRINGED
> leave Vault, venture into the Wastes
> kill the everloving shit out of anything that attacks them
> hole up in abandoned airbase
> kill more shit
> even the Brotherhood of Steel and Legion know better than to fuck with them
> devoted their every waking moment to resurrecting a B29, arming it with nukes and killing even more shit

That's us.

>>34810589
>>34810765

This is what I was talking about. My settlements are so well armed that my level 90 character in X01 super power armor would struggle to take it in a frontal assault that would trash my suit and use up all my stimpaks, yet level 5 ghouls and raiders are apparently a threat to my settlements that put the Fallout 3 Pentagon (or, frankly, the real Pentagon) to shame.

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>>34810861
>yet level 5 ghouls and raiders are apparently a threat to my settlements
my biggest gripe is that settlers don't scale with your level or how far you are within minutemen, they stay at the default level and get destroyed by a lvl 90 charred ghoul or legendary gunner captain that has a stealth boy

>>34810765

Set up on Sanctuary Island. I turned the place into Hitler's Atlantic Wall only with laser beams and a mutfruit plantation.

The Raiders would hit it at night and all I could see of them would be crossed laser beams and the trails of rockets. I rarely even found bodies because the volume of missile fire would toss the pieces into the ocean.

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>>34810934
>fast travel to hyper fortress
>game spawns raiders inside the perimeter
>hear the Earth Defense Grid of missile turrets activate, turn and target
>tfw

>>34811020

I had this one settlement that was always getting fucked by ghouls. So I deported every single person there to other settlements, then replaced them with tricked out sentry bots. Every one had a mini nuke launcher and dual miniguns. Then I ringed the joint with heavy laser turrets and minefields.

It literally rained ghoul parts.

>>34811020
>Deathclaw Promontory
>Chinese Assault Rifle
I don't accept the premise of this image.

>>34806795

The brotherhood of the steel is /pol/

The minutemen is /k/

The institute is reddit

The railroad is tumblr

Debate me fags

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Worth the read...

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>>34810765
>>34810905
>tfw spent hours upon hours making Sanctuary a fortified town with several layers
>tfw after a patch, the mod to clear the debris from some props in Sanctuary broke and I was unable to rescue it
After that I stopped playing FO4. I think it's a mediocre game, but I really enjoyed the base building mechanics.

Back to New Vegas it is, I suppose.

>>34807687
How the fuck was fallout three creepy?

>>34811731
>How the fuck was fallout three creepy?
not him, but I got pretty spooked in the dunwich building

>>34810440
thiz

>>34806795
Gunners are the most /k/ faction in 4.

>>34808686
They just combined the level up menus and improved combat.

RPG is kind of a vacuous label for a game.

>>34811731
>load up Fallout 3
>Play Hard mode
>Arm yourself with an AK-47
>Fast travel to the middle of blasted Washington D.C
>Objective:escape
>Get caught up in endless firefights
>Playing high level. Now you got the Broken >Steel Added supermutants
>Sweet, you found a subway system.
>Here comes the feral ghouls
>Here come the glowing ones
>here come the ones with armour and shoot fucking radiation everywhere
>You got out of the Subway
>Oh shit it's Talon Company!
>Fight through that
>More supermutants come in and swamp you.
>You're at the Washington Monument
>Duck into the Mutant Trench system
>Find it littered with the corpses of other wastelanders
>Keep moving, incoming Supermutant armed solely with laser weaponry
>Finally escape the city
>Mirelurk kings!

Fallout 3 is an inferior game compared to New Vegas, and maybe 4 (haven't played it yet), but don't discredit the atmosphere.

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>>34812863
>but don't discredit the atmosphere.
>playing FO3
>exploring the wasteland
>find the Dunwich building
>don't know what it is, but go inside
>walk inside and up the stairs
>hear ferals
>don't have enough ammo
>decide to leave
>game crashes
>have to load back up into the building
>game crashes again

I stopped playing for like week, because I was retarded and thought that Bethesda was trying to break the 4th wall

>>34807310
The boomers aren't the gun runners

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>>34811711

Dubs of truth

>"For every 43.6 savages we blew up, we lost one of our own..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJAC17XYIjU

>>34811711

The Enclave is /pol/

>>34806795
I agree that the most /k/ Factions in fallout are the brotherhood and the minutemen but I think they need to have an enclave faction to join to make things more interesting.

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i guess i'm reddit now ;_;

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>>34813317

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>>34808306
bunch of commie bastards.

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>>34813334

>>34813383
and it was still safer than the alternative

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>>34813393
yup

>>34813350
Must play gun wizard in a tabletop now.

>>34813317
>>34813334
>currently replaying FO4 and going BOS
>no romance, just broing it up with Danse and going full no remorse killing every single non human I come across
>Gonna kill you know who when I learn he's a you know what even tho he's cool
>read these
>want to romance Curie again because she's lovely
>can't without breaking character
>at a huge moral dilemma
why'd you have to post these

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>>34808306
>Best faction has the best uniforms
some things are just meant to go together

>>34808198
Based Joshua Graham

>>34808571
>fallout mod, mysterious stranger is always an asshole from nugget fest.

>>34811711
Gunners is /k/
Even has a bunch of nogunz that have to resort to melee weapons.

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>>34813685
still bothers me that you couldn't join the Gunners

>>34808639
Bethesda cucked Obsidian on purpose, they were told the game needed more time for polish and bug fixing and said nope so thataway the game can get bad scores and Beth wouldn't have to pay out the bonus.

>>34806795
The only enjoyment I got out of the Minutemen faction is destroying the Institute. Imagine having perfected human cloning, teleportation, and the manufacture of infinite robot soldiers to do your dirty work while you live in an underground city and somehow you get nuked by a gaggle of homeless people led by some dudes with silly hats who have to hand-crank their guns

>>34807324
What's the name of the movie? That has the poster that's a us soldier that has the shades and the cigar?

>>34813334
Degenerate.

>>34814391
apocalypse now

>>34810348
Why do people believe this? You autists would argue it's an outdated design and not a soldiers gun

>>34813139
(((ncr)))

>>34810842
with a lot less killing and a lot more autistic screeching

>>34811711
Don't you dare insult the rich history and good men of this board by comparing it to the minutemen. Otherwise you're spot on. Also anybody who bought fallout 4 is a sucker.

>>34807310
>>34806824
Boomers or NCR for most /k/

That being said /k/ isn't rigid in politics so it varies from user to user.

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>>34807310
>The left part represents the Boomers emerging from the vault, exterminating the "savages" they encountered with frag mines and grenades. The middle section, which represents the current state of the Boomers, show their discovery of the air force base. There, they prospered, multiplied, and kept the "savages" from distance with the artillery they have. The bubble above the small pods next to the artillery is them flying flight simulators to train to fly the bomber. The right-most section represents the Boomers' future where they hope to unleash "high-explosive ordnance upon ignorant savages" with the bomber they hope to restore.

This.

>>34814471
NOT A SOLDIERS GUN?

>>34813383
Shit I just strip down to nothing, sneak around the deathclaws at Quarry Junction, and then book it as fast as I can to Vegas. Once you reach there, the game gets a lot easier because you can get Well-Rested and better weapons.

It's hard but not impossible to get past the deathclaws in Quarry Junction. Then you come back with some serious firepower and teach those overgrown faggot lizards some desert justice.

>>34814650
TIGHT TOLORANCES
FULL LENGTH GUIDE ROD
UNRELIABLE
UN-FUCKING-RELIABLE

>>34814525
>rich history and good men of this board
literally deer fuckers >>34813013

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>>34806795
>>34806824
I preferred rileys rangers, but that's just my opinion

>>34814691
How many men do you know with the balls to fuck an animal which is known to kill cars?

>>34814391
Kong Skull Island.>>34814462

>>34808000
THE TRIP GOD

>>34814768
[spoiler]it's a meme you dip[/spoiler]

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>when there are well made mods of your favourite gun you own

GAME ABSOLUTELY REDEEMED. glad I waited a 1+ years after release to play after all the hype/disappointment to judge it on its merits. 266 hours total. main story was ok. side quests and exploration were great. mods saved the day.

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Garand mod is great too.

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anyways, BoS of course.

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>>34814987
I love the mosin mod

>>34807715
>woo guys look at me, i like FO1 and FO2, am i cool yet?

>>34811731

I'll agree with him. Fallout 3 just felt more desperate. That maybe there was no coming back for humanity. 4 felt like things were still crap but getting better.

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>>34815938
>That maybe there was no coming back for humanity. 4 felt like things were still crap but getting better
I agree but I think Bethesda doesn't realize how long 200 years really is

>>34814511
If you mean by autistic screeching as bombs screaming towards anyone without grandma's ok getting anywhere near the base, sure.

>>34815969
>strapping autists onto artillery and launching them

>>34815925
Spotted the worthless teenager. Fallout 1 and 2 are easily the best games of the series. There's so much you can do. So much love and detail put into the worldcrafting. You also don't realize how mind-blowing these games were when they first came out. Back then, it was unusual for RPGs to even be set in a non-medieval fantasy setting. Bethesda has no idea how to handle this franchise. FO4 was way too brightly colored, with retarded weapon designs, flat characters, and honestly did nothing to make me care about anyone.

>>34814836
That mod really annoyed me because those glow sights. It's there on the front but not the rear sights, but you can see the glow on the rear when racking the slide. The mod author obviously fucked somewhere and misplaced the glow dots.

I think I had more fun with Fallout 3 than NV.
>Better atmosphere, it felt like the world had actually ended instead of inconvenienced.
>Exploring felt like you were the only (sane) person to have explored there in centuries.
>Sense of Awe, there were no location in NV comparable to seeing the Mall, or fighting along the overpasses, or the Citadel. Everything that should have bee (Strip, Dam) was divided up by loading screens and filled with like 5 NPCs max.
>Endgame. Lets face it, the "battle" of Hoover dam was lame on par with the battle of Bruma in Oblivion. Fallout 3 had you following Liberty Prime as he blasted his way through enclave roadblocks and virtibird squadrons.

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>>34814729
A pigeon can kill an jumbo jet.

>>34816162
y'ever fuck a pigeon?

>>34811731
>Tranquility Lane
When I first played FO3 with my cousin as a kid I wasn't savvy enough to break the program so we were forced to wear a hockey mask and murder families with a kitchen knife. We did try to fight Betty, which prompted her to speak in a deep satanic voice and punish us with explosive insta-death.

>>34815963
Neither did Obsidian. That bomber the boomers want would be dust long before the great war even started.

>>34816053
It wasn't made to be like a pen and paper game.

It was an open world rpg focusing on trying to be more modern.

>>34816162
This isn't actually true. Pigeons don't ever make it to altitude, but geese do. Geese are also much larger. That being said, a single goose will never kill a jumbo jet, they might at most take down a single engine.

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>>34807687
>Fallout 3 was not terrible

>>34811711
The institute is /g/

>>34817475
>implying /g/ manages to do anything productive

>>34817462
3 was re-released by GoG recently, might be worth another look?

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God damnit do I love strolling around the Mojave as Mr House's personal contractor. I haven't found any other routes as satisfying as enforcing the will of an absolute technocratic dictator without having to take any personal responsibility for my own actions. I'm like fucking Boba Fett

>>34817489
>3 was re-released by GoG recently, might be worth another look?
What? No. Fuck that noise.

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>>34807687
It's open world and exploration options were good, but everything else was pretty shit.

>>34814987
Which Garand mod is this? Is it just the This Machine mod?

>>34816153
>it felt like the world had actually ended instead of inconvenienced.
That's the point.

Fallout is supposed to be post-post apocalyptic: the world's already started to rebuild and the new nations are making the same mistakes as the old ones. Fallout 3 feels like it takes place 20 years after the bombs fell, not 200 years. It's still interesting seeing people carving out shelters in the ruins and scavenging, but it's not the same Fallout vibe.

I've read that Bethesda wanted to see Fallout 3 a lot closer to the time the bombs dropped, which would have made a lot more sense, but didn't because dude brotherhood of steel and Enclave lmao.

>>34817557
How the fuck is this in any way related to anything!? Enjoy your ban.

>>34812863

Pretty much this, fallout 3 was so much more intense and had immersive atmosphere than any other fallout game

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>>34806795
That would be whomever Joshua Graham hangs out with for a time being.

>innawoods
>builds his own /k/ompound whenever he goes
>maintains and fixes his own guns
>knows that all the other factions care only about exacting control

>>34811731

I find it bit creepy that you can nuke a fucking settlement and you can still get good reputation by giving some water to bums.

>>34811722
>/pol/ likes Fallout 4 to the point of overthinking it

Really sends the noggin' joggin'. I knew that board was underage through and through.

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>>34808198
Why would somebody set a man on fire then throw him over the cliff

>>34816153
>Fallout 3 had you following Liberty Prime as he blasted his way through enclave roadblocks and virtibird squadrons.
I like it too when I don't put any effort in playing a game.

>>34814686
*autistic screaming*

>>34813410
These are really cool!

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>>34817549
yeah, the 'This Machine' rendition is a special and more powerful version you find in the world.

both it and the normal one are easily the best 308 rifles in the game.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20687/?

>>34816105
I could look past the non-existent rear sights. you only need to align the front anyways and that worked. otherwise, the dude got the proportions right, and the animations and sounds. Didn't bother with any other hand gun afterwards.

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>>34817509
>not killing the old fuck and cucking the legion, and blue balling the NCR,
you're a disgrace to mailmen everywhere, i bet your spurs dont even jingle, jangle OR jingle.

>>34806795
probably the cannibal vampire faggots in the subway

>>34816624
If it was exposed to direct sunlight, it would be. But it was at the bottom of a freshwater lake. That would keep the b-29 intact and minimally damaged. And if I'm not mistaken, a b-29 is made mostly out of aluminum. It would be very well preserved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSF-A0IPLCc
skip to 33:50. Obsidian really did their homework.

>>34806824
He said fallout 4 specifically.

>>34814549
>ncr
>/k/
pick one

>>34817915
Not having to do anything in one scene which marked the culmination of yiur efforts is not a bad thing.

>>34819482
esplain

how soon before fallout 5 do people start HAILING THE PRAISES of fallout 4 and it's GENIUS GAMEPLAY AND STORY?

it happens every game i'm just wondering how soon fallout 4 will become the best fallout to date, and 5 is trash

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>>34820173
Rumor has it that Zenimax has already contracted out another studio to handle the next Fallout spinoff while Bethesda works on TES 6

and nerds on reddit think it's going to be in Texas

>>34820199
>while Bethesda works on TES 6
I don't we'll see anything about 6 til 2020, isn't Beth currently working on other games?

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Just came here to say the guns in FO4 look like shit straight outta Brazil.

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>>34820248
I you believe this leak, then Beth has been working on TES 6 since Fallout 4 released

>>34820267
Still not as bad as Half Life 3

>>34820272
I wish valve would make HL3 one of those shitty card games like Gwent so everyone would shut the fuck up about it already.
The whole reason they haven't made HL3 is because of the HL3 circlejerk and they know it's going to get a No Mans Sky style reception because autists will never be satisfied with what they make.

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Liberty Prime.

>is a weapon
>desires only to kill communists.

>>34820329
That would be hilarious, in all honesty I think Episode 2 was a good enough endpoint for the series. They closed the super portal etc... HL3 would just be for retards to be happy to see them wrapping up a few loose ends, so it'd just be a waste of development time and money.

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>>34820023
>culmination of your efforts
yes because Fallout 3 was such a hard game

Fallout 2 > Fallout > Fallout New Vegas > Fallout Tactics > A steaming pile of human shit with flies buzzing around it > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4

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>>34820383
>tfw some mad scientist builds him and looses him on commiefornia and jew york

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>>34820570

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>>34820562
>Fallout 2 > Fallout > Fallout New Vegas > Fallout Tactics > A steaming pile of human shit with flies buzzing around it > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4

>>34820124
>supporting corrupt government bureaucrats


Legion is probably the most /k/ if we're completely honest here
>no guns
>fuck men
>incapable of accomplishing tasks without being reminded that they'll be killed if they fail.

>>34820562
>Fallout 2 > Fallout > Fallout New Vegas > Fallout Tactics > A steaming pile of human shit with flies buzzing around it > those terrible LJN NES games >Wii shovelware >getting cancer >waking up in a tub full of ice in a shitty even for mexico motel >being molested by CHAD THUNDERCOCK while he moans about your feminine penis > getting gangstalked by people in clophopper costumes >new Metallica records and the fans thereof > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4

>>34815963
You do know that the only reason hapan was able to get back on its feet and it does not look like a dead zone is because only two nukes was dropped then after that they had major wide aid from other nations and help in rebuilding its country meanwhile in the fallout universe there was fuckton of nukes thrown everywhere not to mention the nuclear power plants being hit as well which basically throws out all kinds of nasty radiation that would actually fuck shit up along with the fact that there was no outside aid since again the entire world was beyond fuvked so there was no outside aid or anything besides war and fucktillion of nukes dropped everywhere so yeah it would make sense that shit isn't growing back easily like it did in japan along with nations and civilization being in turmoil due to no outside help or recovery due to again lots of nukes and war from all around and lack of outside help.

So don't be assuming that it is stupid because it didn't jump back on its feet like japan did because japan was hit with just two nukes and had lots of help and aid.

In fallout america didn't have that luxury because it was hit more than two nukes and outside aid and help was none existence because they got wiped out as well.

>>34811693
Nibba I was blastin Deathclaws with the 10mm. You just gotta rank up.

>>34821012
This

How can anyone compare japan being hit with just two nukes then get help from murica with other that was hit way more than a hundred nukes and no way of outside help because other nations died?

>>34821076
>>34821012
Uneducated newfags that don't know about how nukes works

>>34821236
You retarded?

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>>34811722
TGFW he figures out the protag is a synth

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>>34806795
>talking to the minute men the first time
>"yeah there are only about 7 of us, we suck ass and are all dead, but we're still trying"
>mfw
>what the hell, you are all going to die and I am not about to die to help your dumb asses
>fuck your shit, Preston

Then the game goes on giving me the option of asking them for help to create a fucking teleporter over the Brotherhood of fucking steel. Shit, even the railroad is a better option that fucking around with their halfwitted tactics and goals.

Fuck the Minute men sideways. Worst faction of all time.

>>34821049
There are no Chinese assault rifles in New Vegas. There weren't hundreds of Chinese agents out west.

>>34820508
From a story perspective.

>>34820681
I'd love to see you play in a pile of shit because the alternative is Fallout 4

>>34821820
>Fuck the Minute men sideways. Worst faction of all time.
it's good with mods were the minute are on patrol with decent gear, weapons, and vertibirds

>>34821558
Go back to >>>/pol/

>>34810765
>Get stronger raiders mod
>Figure it'll make things more interesting
>Redrocket is under attack.jpg
>K den I'll bring my mosin
>Still pretty low level
>Raiders with 2 suits of powerarmor spawn on 3 sides
>Total of about 20 raiders all chucking molotovs with the powerarmor guys laying down constant fire with assault rifles
>FUCK
>some get caught up on my razorwire mod... That only covered the road in one direction
>Turrets got shreked immediately
>Die clutching rifle with everything on fire and all my settlers dead
Really makes sense why the Commonwealth has no settlements besides raider camps. Get bigger than a single family farming and the raiders get antsy and kill you instead of extorting you.

Since then I put concertina wire around my whole perimeter and try to build as much out of concrete as possible.

>>34811651
>Have increased spawn/stronger raids mod
>Have Outpost zamonja pretty much turned into an artillery island with razor wire, guard towers, and sandbag fortifications
>Get attacked by ghouls
>Over a hundred ghouls
>They run right onto my mines and keep coming
>Just expending ammunition into the mass slowing piling/glitching through my fence
>Gooks in the fucking wire.jpg
>Start tossing grenades until I run out of grenades
>Finally over
>A fucking mountain of ghoul corpses along the entire western side of my settlement

>>34821987
So basically turn them into Lyons' BoS rather than what it should have been, a proper militia for the PC to use and abuse as his african warlord fiefdom

>>34822076
This is why every one of my settlements has a Sentrybot with Tesla coils, gatling laser, flame thrower, mortar, brainbot psychic head beam thing, and mininuke launcher.

the XP meter keeps rising and I dont know why.

>>34817768
He didn't fly so good

>>34822112
It doesn't matter because they can't defend themselves without your presence so may as well just go lonewolf instead of wasting your time building up a settlement that will just be defeated by a pack of raiders with pipe guns when your away.

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>>34822112
>settlements has a Sentrybot

>using the robot defense mod
>raiders spawn inside the walls
>settlers are attacking with melee weapons
>sentry bot fires missile into crowd
>kills the raiders and 5 settlers

I'm going to start using this mod from now on

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25964/?

>>34821558
Found the retarded /pol/fag

>>34822148
>>34822076
>>34811651
>Have stronger raids mod
>Build autistic concrete bunker fort
>Settlement is getting attacked
>On fast travelling back, run into bunker
>Getting chased by ghouls as I run inside bunker
>Its a big concrete cube with a walkway from the door to an elevator
>Walls, ceiling and floors on cube lined with laser turrets which are activated by laser trip sensor
>Run into elevator and hit floor 2
>Watch as the ghouls run in, trip a hostile only programmed laser trip sensor which cuts power to the door we all entered through.
>Door behind them slamsshuts, door to elevator slams shuts
>Turrets turn on
>fps is kill

>>34806795
the minutemen are fucking fags

>>34813334
>>34813317
fuck you now I want to play this shitty game

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>>34807281
>>34807687

so i've put 50 hours into the game just exploring and wrecking ass with my dog companion. every faction wants me to be a bleeding heart faggot but i just cant be bothered to stop blowing raiders brains out and looting the dead bodies.

>>34808639
>Did you not play NV when it released? It was easily the buggiest major release of the fallout franchise. Basically it felt like a heavily modded Fallout 3, lots of neat features but you often fall through the floor and shit.
I found that turn in you chips bug at the primm casino

>>34806795
>Fallout 4

Get fucked.

Boneyard Gunrunners are the most /k/ of all.

>>34822772
this isn't /v/

>>34822112
That's why at the drive in I have a guard post marker behind a sandbag firing position right at the edge of the road where fucking deathclaws and shit always spawn
>It's occupied by a dual missile launcher, Mini nuke firing sentry bot with a skull for a face
>Labeled enclave dreadnaught
>Even in death I still serve America.jpg

3 or 4 mod eyebots with electric guns or flamethrowers floating behind you is a great aggro screen for fucking with AI target aquisition

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>>34813317
Curie is the FO4 "no God's, no masters" companion.

You think it's ok to tell you're buds at the Institute about your jailbroken escaped synth you lobotomized and uploaded a Mr. Handy AI some prewar tech recoded into waifu simulator 2053?

Ironically if you called her a robot(which she would agree with) the BoS would probably be more accepting of your "confiscated institute technology" but probably want to discect or turn her off so that's also a no go unless you claim she's a normal human.

Minutemen are bitches with flashlights without hella mods and the railroad after being able to Kevlar line clothing gets lined up against the wall by default.

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Did nothing wrong.

>>34811711
Caesar's Legion is /his/

>>34813457
...you know what happens to Danse right?
>The institute killed and replaced him
>His conviction to the BoS is so strong that even his replacement wants to die for the brotherhood once he finds out and wants you to kill him
I put a bullet in the base of his skull (ironically with the deliverer) clean kill. Ad Victorium brother. Wanted to gulag that recon bitch for dissolution with the BoS cause after getting mad I killed the synth that most likely killed the real Danse.

>>34813383
>>34814664
>>34813393
You just need to climb the rocks on the right of the northern road out of goodpsrings and waste all your ammo killing those fucking cazadores then aggro the ones at that camp into a landmine or some shit. Then take the canyon out, sneak past the raider town (or kill them for the sweat suit of metal armor on their boss) and then sneak past or kill the juvenile deathclaw skulking around the canyon pass on the far side of quarry junction.

>>34823118
And you should that sweet knife from Chance's grave while you're at it.

>>34806795
Fall out 4 is awful and /v/ is ---> that way.

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I think/k/ is more of a New Vegas crowd

>TFW no shitty LARPing Roman wannabes to blast with a 45-70 lever gun

>>34821012
My problem with 3 and 4's setting depiction is less about limited building (I could see that being a regional issue), and more about the fact that so much of the world seems to have remained nearly untouched since the bombs fell. Skeletons of the bombing victims are not only present, but intact and posed. Items like weapons and medicine remain unscavenged and in good condition, despite being near populated areas and exposed to the elements. In FO 1, 2, and NV, it seemed like most things like that were either left by more recent events or were only found in sealed areas.

>>34824062
At least you actually have a good debatable comment right there.

It is fucking annoying and retarded to hear newfags and retards on here and the so claimed "experts" on the fallout lore on youtube that say "HURR DURR FALLOUT IS SUPER UNRELEASTIC AND STUPID CUZ DAH PLANTS AND TREES SHOULD HAVE BEEN BACK AND CIVILISATION DEERRRRRR SHOULD HAVE RECOVERED TO FULL AND THE WATER SHOULD BE CLEEEAAAAAN CUZ LOL TWO HUNDRED YEARS HERP DERP LOOK AT JAPAN THEY GOT HIT AND THEY JUST FIIIIIIINE DEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!" when they are deliberately ignoring that japan was hit with only 2 nukes and it was helped by other countries to get it back on it's feet and also there was no nuclear war MEANWHILE in fallout story there was a nuclear war which involves lots of nukes going off which will fuck up the ecosystem, economy, civilization and as well biology with all that radiation and shit also not to mention that there was literally no other nations to come and help out due to fucking nuclear war going off.

It pisses me off and yes i know fallout is not real life but for god sakes someone should at least know the difference between japan being hit with two nukes as well no nuclear war and the world being plunged into full on nuclear war with lots of nukes and shit going off.

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>>34824474
You already have your answer, Knight. Let the thread die.

Ad Victoriam

>>34824568
NOOOOO I WANT THREAD UP DEUS VULT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>34824251
What did he mean by this?

>>34824666
>What did he mean by this?
he still doesn't grasp how long two centuries is

>>34808198
"And the light shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehended it not."

>>34824062
Oh, and I forgot to mention the boats. FO4 has a lot of small boats and barges in the waters around Boston that appear to have not only survived multiple nearby strategic nuclear weapon hits, but also 200 years in sea water without maintenance. They're even presumably still anchored or moored, since they haven't drifted out to sea or run aground.

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>>34824792
Look up FO4 cut content, there was suppose to be a shit load of missions out at sea

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>>34824792
>tfw you blast that filthy chink commie in the submarine

>>34824837
I see some notes on a possible diving quest, and something about an underwater vault (perhaps the same thing). That still doesn't provide a good explanation for the fact that all those those boats are still around.

On a related note, I really wish they'd thought to provide a reasonable way to move through water in power armor (perhaps a propulsion backpack like the jet pack). That got really frustrating at some points.

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>>34825037
>move through water in power armor

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25591/?

>>34812863
>the game is fun because it's murderthon 2277
That's actually why the game is shit in my opinion. I remember playing through the Point Lookout and the game requiring me to kill all but about 3 people, one of which was killed by someone else. Games that just have you killing endless amounts of enemies to push forward a shitty plot that I have no reason to care about really don't do it for me. Going through the subways was also lame due to the enemy types constantly changing for no real reason, other than waring factions all deciding to all set up camp within 10 feet of each other.

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Can we just talk about fallout 4's idea of an "assault rifle", a semi automatic maxim gun? Fallout's weapon design has often been bad but OMG

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>>34825216
>Can we just talk about fallout 4's idea of an "assault rifle"
>using the default guns in game
just get the mods dude

>>34825216
I would have been fine with that thing if they'd just called it a machine gun and had it use full sized cartridges (and appropiate capacity, damage, range, and recoil). A Lewis/Maxim/Madsen/Bren is kind of a neat idea, even if unrealistic, and that's clealry what the artist who came up with the thing had in mind. I could see the Automatic Rifle category making a comeback with the introduction of power armor.

I'm still irritated about the dumb damage model they used. Full-auto should add recoil and maybe hurt accuracy. They tried to abstract that away by directly reducing damage instead and ended up making full auto guns useless due to the unnecessarily dumb way they made armor work (and even more so with ammo weight enabled). This game containeda lot of good ideas messed up by incomplete and uncoordinated implementations. Even the story could have been fixed while retaining most of the same elements.

Fallout 4 was infuriatingly bad. Bethesda can suck a dick.

>>34825017
There needed to be a "completely flip out and beat a fucking communist to death with your bare hands"

There is waaaaaay to little focus on the fact that you are a veteran of the Canadian occupation, Alaska campaign, and/or have literally been to the gobi desert shooting chinks with a Gatling laser. It's all the motivation any faction needed to want you and your knowledge of prewar military installations. You should have started the game deciding to head to the nearest military checkpoint only to find it full of raider scum who are scripted to try and rob you (who you can vats in the dick, try and join, or kill their leader and become ruler of barter town)

The institute should want you because of some maguffin regarding Gene seed and because they need to you to find a vault/installation in the glowing sea you already know about due to prewar security clearance.

BoS should be fucking worshipping you and asking for advice on everything from powerarmor tactics to military bases. You're literally the same as the US army who founded the Brotherhood of steel. It also makes a fuckton more sense for them to immediately make you a knight after you rattle off your rank and talk about your time in the service.

Same reason why the minutemen would trust you to lead them in a larger way than Preston going "sheeeeeeit we fukkin suk hep me out nigga"

Also why deacon would want you as a one man wrecking ball and a tie in to actually finding a set of T51 powerarmor in a mission to paint up in minutemen colors to become the railroads only true defense against coursers and actually go on the offensive.

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>>34820562
This nigger gets it

>>34806795
Are there any total-conversion mods for this game yet? I had an absolute blast playing around with Power Armor, building settlements (wish I didn't have to build MILLIONS though) and just playing tower defense stuff. The story was garbage as expected but the shooting was fun.

>>34826424
Why the fuck would the BoS worship you?
What amazingly outdated strategies for fighting chinks, that BoS already knows about, would help them against the synths and supermutants?

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>>34826498
gooks build robots, so any counter-gook strategy should therefore also counter robots

>>34826498
>Why would an organization founded by the military who venerate the world of elders and the BoS code above all care about a literal WWIII veteran
You fucking stupid or just ignorant of the BoS?
>Why would a military organization want someone to point out every installation and high tech prewar sight in a theater you've never been to
>Hurr old tactics
BoS sure don't feel like they're capitalizing on their powerarmor or deploying it properly. They've spent 200 years resting on the laurels of being near impenetrable so US ARMY DOCTRINE ON FIGHTING CRIMSON DRAGON INVISIBLE ASSHOLES (like the high end Gunners and all coursers) would come in fucking handy m8.

>>34813705
or at least hire them

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>>34817534
Oh my fucking GOD DAMN IT I would have laughed if it wasn't so fucking true.

>>34815938
>>34815963
>>34817568
>20 years after the bombs fell, not 200
That's why for my post-apocalyptic game I'm willing to write detailed lore/stories for all that time that's not ever going to be seen in game just so I'm not tempted to go back and explore it. I think with 3's atmosphere and design and 4's "haha this is what it was like!" intro it's clear that Toddy boy's dream is to explore during the apocalypse stage.

You know, because him and everyone else at that dumpster fire of a company are edgy retards who think wanton violence is slapstick funny.

>>34820173
I don't know, but I'll never do it. I was mad about 3, NV was a bit of a relief despite it being a professionally-made total conversion mod, and 4 is an abomination that's actually a step backward from 3. Also a friendly reminder that ALL of this happens on the same engine Morrowind ran back at the turn of the century, I'm not even making that shit up.

>>34821012
>>34821076
>>34821319
Are you? It's been just over 200 years since the great war by the time of FO3 so literally the only radioactive things still around are nuclear fuel and nuclear waste. Depending on what they're using for glow sights those might be dead too.

By 2277 the biggest hazards should be the FEV-fucked flora and fauna, not radiation, and the DC area should have been like Vault 22 but on steroids.

>>34824251
It is unrealistic, so much that the "this is a fictional setting" isn't really an excuse anymore.

Here's what happened:
Bethesda got the IP and didn't remember that 1 and 2 take place in the "plants hardly grow here" part of the country where it's scrub brush and tumbleweeds, so they made the D.C. ruins look like Mogadishu. Then they proceeded as normal to fuck everything up, but then in Fallout 4 they again fucked up.

There is no fucking reason why both games were desert.jpg besides Bethesda being retarded.

>>34807334
>The nazis would probably be an enclave type group
Nigger, the enclave was metophorically fucking ZOG, what the fuck are you on about?
>Subversive group bent on pulling the thread until the tapestry that is civilization is destroyed under the misguided notion that they'd somehow survive the outcome and rise to the top of the ash pile, or that the ash pile would be worth ruling over.
>Controls the US government
>Manipulates politicians to completely destabilize the world around them.
>Had a haven, an ethnic enclave, if you will, that catered to their every need at the expense of the US government, whose policy they dominate
I hate to break it to you, but the enclave are jews.
Z O G
O
G

>>34827284
This.

Enclave = X-files techno-jews. I liked the Enclave, but they had to go. There cant be more than remnants now...

>>34824251
Not only that, but people seem to forget that Fallout is not intended to be a realistic depiction of what nuclear apocalypse would be like, but rather a 1959's comic book depiction of what nuclear apocalypse would be like.

I mean, you're really trying to have a serious argument about what vegetation would look like when there are supermutants and centuries-old nuclear powered vacuum tube robots running around?

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my Fallout 4 firebase

>>34826424
you actually raise some pretty damn good points, I wish the game played out like that instead.
>inb4 Todd steals ideas for Fallout 5

>>34826498
the male protag is practically a walking tome of prewar military knowledge (the kind that the BoS is obsessed with). It's not hard to see why they'd consider him an extremely important asset if the plot was actually well-written.

Todd pls go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4

>>34830160

leave todd alone he just wanted to make fun games

>>34808639
>Bethesda give Obsidian 1 year to make NV
>Bethesda tells them they'll get a bonus if it scores 90+ on metacritic
>Bethesda also tells them they'll handle the bugtesting/quality control
>Bethesda doesn't do any quality control
>Game releases as a buggy broken mess
>Scores 89 on metacritic
>Bethesda say's 'Ooo, so close. Better luck next time' and withholds the bonus

>>34829921
In that sense, given their mission statement, then they would be obsessed with killing/capturing him if the MC decides not to join them.

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>>34808198
Based crispy Mormon.

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>>34830176
Actually that's false
>Bethesda gives Obsidian 2-3 years to make NV
>starts arbitrarily rejecting milestones and thus witholding Obsidian's paycheck
>Bethesda's parent company Zenimax comes in and offers them a loan, if they can't pay it back Zenimax takes over the company
>Obsidian takes it because the studio is going bankrupt
>Bethesda/Zenimax then demand Obsidian release the game in 1 year
>sorry goys, the game only got 89 on metacritic and you can't pay back jack shit, looks like your company is now mine ;^)
Obsidian isn't the only victim either. They did it to Prey's devs, and pretty much everyone else they work with. Zenimax is the definition of the cancer killing videogames, and anyone who buys their games or any game they publish should unironically kill themselves

>>34830176
>>34830330
>89
the score required for the additional paycheck was 85
New Vegas got 84
still, the Jewing happened regardless

>>34824837
this is a bloo bored xD

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>>34810440

I agree. Real adults play Fallout: New Vegas, with its intellectual plotline that really makes you think about the fundamentals of what makes a country.

>>34831518
>t. buttmad bethesdrone
New Vegas will always be the best of Nu-Fallout simply because it doesn't railroad you into some retarded quest to search for a flat character with a WACKY TWEEST like them dying halfway through the game or ending up being evil or some shit and instead it lets you do what you want.

>>34830372
>miss by one point
How convenient

>>34813139
>escaped criminals don't like the guys who imprisoned them
fascinating

>>34822470
>Final Solutioning ghouls
I didn't know I wanted this.

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>>34807310
Fucking this.

>>34814836
So is it worth playing now? I've had FO4 sitting in my Steam Library since release and I never really got into it the same way I did with NV.

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>>34831908
yeah. Like I said, I left main story for last and enjoyed doing 100% of side quests and exploring absolutely everything. there's also survival difficulty similar to nv but I saved that for a future play through. the new skill system is a bit off putting but not game breaking, level scaling is good. all dlc is piratable and installed like mods so no need to drop $ on that. far harbor is good, wasteland workshop if you get into settlement building, rest is trash.

lots of good /k/ mods. crude blowback (pic) is amazing for early game in .38 and .45. RU556 and AK74M are essential once 5.56 starts spawning. the best USP mod is not the most popular one, that one has fucked up proportions but I guess normies can't tell the difference. decent P220 and 1911 mods too. and of course Garand in 308. there's a really good NCR ranger armor recreation.

best summed up as a great game, but not a great fallout game because muh rpg elements. I enjoyed modding and creating my post apocalyptic ethno-state enough to forgive it for its shortcomings.

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>>34832044
>level scaling
>good
>ever
Gee fucking wiz, i sure love going to an area at a low level and missing out on good loot because of level scaling. I also love bullet sponge raiders at high levels and rad roach-tier deathclaws at low levels, because fuck having challenge or fun, everything in the game must be the same lukewarm & bland "not too easy but not too hard"-shit.

>far harbor
>good

>muh EN CEE ARR RANGERS
>best summed up as a great game
This shit best be b8

>>34832277
the level scaling really only applies to loot and even then most non-human mobs will fucking destroy you at low levels.

also complaining about bullet sponge mobs in an FPSRPG is simply childish at this point.

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>>34832303
Funny how STALKER managed to get it right, but no-one else can. Definitely not pure laziness by the devs, i better just shut up, drink my soilant and rim bethesda's asshole like a good goy

>>34832351
stop right there. Fallout is the way it is because of its roots as a turn-based RPG with stats and levels and all that jazz. you cant have a game with stats and levels then keep enemies at the same level the whole time or else the player will simply be overpowered by the end of the game.

Reminder that California under NCR is probably back to near pre-war levels of infrastructures and quality of life.

while the east-coast under BoS is still shanty town shit-bergs.

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>>34808306
no

>>34817768
To hurt him on the fall down.

>>34832444
BoS, especially in the east, is not a government. Nor is it likely to have more than 1,500 personnel across all roles. The NCR has an army with division-level formations and a fully functional administrative bureaucracy. The comparison is silly.

At this point, once the NCR is able to figure out an effective means to produce new automobiles, the reclamation of the US is all but inevitable. I would not be surprised to read that shortly after the events of Fallout 4, the NCR had begun or was already bulldozing the old cities to reclaim resources and lebensraum with brand new construction.

>>34806795
powder gangers

>>34832351
Define "get it right." People forget because they don't play without mods after the first time but STALKER is spongey as fuck in vanilla.

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>>34832407
You should be an unstoppable murder machine by the end of the game. That's the fun of RPG's. Also, STALKER proves you wrong again.

>>34832444
Wrong. The NCR is literally the worst faction, as told to you by everyone who isn't a low-ranking NCR aligned character. Even the top members of the NCR admit it's all propaganda, smoke and mirrors and the entire thing is collapsing due to corruption.

>>34832450
NCR < Yes Man < Legion < House < Legion & House alliance

I don't know why you can't strike a treaty between House and the Legion. House only cares about playing simcity with Vegas, Ceasar only cares about it because he needs a capital to establish his empire.

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>>34832044
>far harbor is good

Far Harbor was ALMOST good, but you can finish it in less than an afternoon and never go back. Also fuck the game for trying to make the Children of Atom sympathetic. Also fuck dindu nuffin DiMA.

>not all synths are evil
>whenever we disagree with someone with just murder and replace them lol

Also fuck Nukaworld, the DLC should begin and end with vertibirds strafing the entire park until no survivors. I like how the DLC took me from hardline Minuteman/Railroad to 100% Brotherhood.

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>>34832557
>Legion & House alliance

>>34832450
Nice try wannabe roman gay boi

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Godbless America.

And nobody else.

>>34832557
>You should be an unstoppable murder machine by the end of the game.
says who
>Also, STALKER proves you wrong again.
no it doesn't. i already stated the difference between stalker and fallout is that stalker DOESN'T have levels or skills or any of that, so it can get away with having everyone in the game have the same amount of HP just with different gear.

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>>34831908
>Is it worth playing
Modified survival mode with normal saving/fast travel and a SHITLOAD of mods make it a fun game. The story mode is worth playing through once, then for the most part you're only pushing quests far enough to get to the institute, have the BoS in the Commonwealth, have the castle, and have your perfect waifu Curie.

Normal survival is bullshit btw.

Castle restored, howitzer replacer+angry artillery, 10mm replacer, pipe gun replacer, better ai, better hit boxes, impervious power armor, more armor slots, a shitload of gun mods, initially friendly Gunners+gunner quests, nukes/artillery ignore walls, sandbag fortifications, stronger raids, and a few others to craft a true to Fallout feel open world sandbox/empire builder.

>>34831908
FO4 has greatly improved gunplay and the power armor mechanics are excellent. the downside is shitty voiced MC and a total lack of roleplaying and plot

>>34832407
The point is to use enemies as a tool to get you to go where they want you to on the map/play the game in the right order. IE like in New Vegas
>You can go west from good springs, try to cut through a canyon to novac from primm, or go past the quarry
>But you're going to get fucking assraped by cazadors, radsquorpions, and deathclaws
>By the time you go the long way you're well enough leveled, armed and armored to go back and kill those fucks.
>Still get assraped by deathclaws

Fallout4 claimed that the enemies get harder the further south you go. Kinda, but if you run there as a level5 noon you're going to have bears and shit spawning instead of deathclaws.

Even in their game if you head dead west you discover a lot more cool shit early game but you have to go south and get powerarmor in 5 minutes cuz muh casual gamers/demo reel.

>>34832557
>A den of drugs and degeneracy that relies on a stable population of people hooked on both
>compatible with the legion where drugs get you duerte'd (only on a cross in the desert instead of a helicopter) and most of the population are slaves

>>34832875
>but if you run there as a level5 noon you're going to have bears and shit spawning instead of deathclaws.

this is only going to happen if you're TRYING to see if the level scaling is borked or not. no one except for skeptical /v/tards played FO4 with the intent to not have fun and to see how shit the game is.

>>34832954

most people are only pro-legion because they say 'degenerate' which makes them /ourfaction/ and is the legion redpilled you guys people who side with house are edgy numale cucks amrite

>>34832989
You can sprint across the map to the glowing sea in about 15 minutes

Because of whining by faggots who didn't want challenge in their videogame, if you get to the part of the main quest where dogmeat tracks Kellogg before like level 15 a bear spawns instead of a deathclaw and the small gaggle of super mutants turn into dogs. The stock game is hand holding bullshit and one of the best mods entirely removes level scaling.

>>34833002
>Bringing your cuck politik shareblue opinion and projecting it on a videogame from 6 years ago
Kill yourself profligate

House is literally an anarcho capitalist.

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>>34832803
>SHITLOAD of mods
Well that's the norm for me, though I always manage to fuck things up somewhere along the way. I always add too many mods. Hell I've got 800 hours into NV and I've never actually finished because on each playthrough I inevitably add one mod too many and bork the game, and I start over again. Guess I'll give FO4 a go-around
>>34832823
I did notice in the short time that I have played 4 that gunplay and Power armor were significantly improved, but the story felt incredibly weak. I absolutely hate what they did to all the dialogue and quite honestly I don't feel attached to any of the characters I've met so far.

BoS in Fallout 4 would destroy any weapons created after a specific date so Minutemen

>>34832562
>hardline Minuteman/Railroad
>Railroad

fucking faggot

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>>34832708
>2017
>still no Fallout game where I can main the Enclave

>>34833557
Indeed I was.

>>34833620

That would be interesting but why would you want to? Part of the allure of the Fallout series is the survival aspect, which would be rather hard to accomplish if you have logistics and a supply chain backing you up.

>>34832044
Can you please link the good usp mod? I saw that popular one but it looked like a cs 1.6 gun.

>>34833728
>Can you please link the good usp mod?
not him but

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21574/?

>>34833652
I imagine the aspect of educating or cleansing the filth of the wasteland

>>34821012
Dude, learn to use punctuation

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>>34833764
Many thanks friend.

>>34833620
I would kill to live out my enclave fantasies.

>>34833652
I don't think the Enclave has supply lines that span the entire continent, the fact ED-E got from the East Coast to the Mojave is seen as remarkable. An Enclave establishing a base in a more frontier region could be interesting, like the Chicago Enclave.

>>34833728
>>34833764
>>34834387
get the high res texture too.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21760/?

>>34806795
>>34806795
Have you gone to Nuka-World yet? They have literal Operators.

>>34835034
nuka world is a joke, and I mowed every raider down after I killed the over boss

>>34835061
cool love to hear the experience of people playing on normal XD

>>34835073
XO-1 power armor and a gatling laser puts the game on easy mode

>>34835061
The number of people who probably fucked up and shot Gage right in the fucking face aggroing the entire park (which you then kill as revenge for taking pot shots at you in that gay little maze) had to be a good 30% on the first play through.

The irony is that nuka world had the potential to actually make raiders humans
>We're just like everyone else, but we're better armed and organized.
>They might bitch and moan about us taking our fair share, but let's see how they'd like fighting off cannibals, super mutants, and ghouls with their busted pipe rifle and their dick in their hand.
>Your minute men are like us, just less honest
>The BoS make us look like goddamn amateurs. You've collected "donations" for them before Mr. Paladin

Instead the operators are the talon company in bow ties, the pack are yiffing and that stupid auto animal fight is louder than anything else in their compound. (Literally have shoot their dog just so I could talk to the pack alpha), and the edgelords are as purposefully evil as they are unmemorable. Gage is actually an ok male companion who knows when to shut the fuck up.

>>34835168
>The irony is that nuka world had the potential to actually make raiders humans
read the terminals and notes about the raider red turret, it was pretty humanizing

as a brotherhood fan myself i wish they brought back the enclave,not just because i liked them but besides say the master,the enclave were the perfect nemesis fighting their old world battles in the ruin and radiation of the new world.

i just dont know with bethesda writers that they could craft such a story where both sides are powerful but flawed in some way

>>34835222
>Muh sister wuz kidnapped
Meh

Every other game has made raiders essentially lone actors or 3-5 guys. Once you get to the level of organization where THE ONLY COMMUNITIES in the Commonwealth are "raiders" who all trade and work together then the fact that they shoot on sight and will run onto your bullets is retarded. Even in the New Vegas engine they were able to make the powder gangers neutral until you shot one of them or Hung around one of their camps for too long/too close. They had the perfect opportunity to creat a joinable raider faction in their flagship quest where you are hired by the raiders to help kill all the pricks who didn't pay the toll to cross their territory (otherwise they'll shoot you too- intro to normal minutemen good goy quest chain) and after you shoot Preston in the fucking face that deathclaw shows up in town and you and your raider buddies need to find a way to escape from the giant lizard killing everyone outside. Queue you dusting off that powerarmor because you're a pre war veteran and good of war and solidifying your rep amongst the Commonwealths raider tribes.

>>34835293
Because the East coast doesn't have the enclave, brotherhood of steel, super mutants, radsquorpions, etc. And Bethesda are fucking hacks.

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>>34813334

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>>34816153

>>34813317
>>34813334
how can such a best girl be in such a shit game
fuck you, todd

>>34835475

thats a funny way of saying Cait

>>34835368
That's a pretty viable raider-quest chain anon, I dig it.

Still, I don't think it's a bad idea to have some "always chaotic evil" enemies for the "tutorial", whether they are just cannibals, deranged humans, or mutated rednecks with guns, it wouldn't be a bad idea to let the player get their human-killing dick wet in the first hour. that said, the first person I killed in New Vegas was Joe Cobb, so it would still work as you described.

Also, yeah Raider implies small group. MAYBE a platoon-sized element. beyond that they approach the Gunners in size, and as you approach that type of size you need organization.

>>34835293
Bethesda are hack writers. They can't do it well, but I bet they'll bring back the Enclave. Part of Fallout's problem is having to constantly create antagonists. The Institute, while poorly executed imo, was an interesting concept (using AI androids to essentially ZOG the Commonwealth). Unfortunately, "evil distant technocrats" are basically what the Enclave already were... It's just that this time they have your son and you can play along.

>>34835222
THIS is the hack job of Bethesda. Clearly, they have decent writers. Journal Entrys and even the books in Skyrim/Oblivion can actually be pretty good at times, if a bit ham-fisted at others. BUT IT'S WASTED.

I shouldn't have to read 40 pages of in-game novels to learn that there was a friendly raider, once. FUCKING WRITE IN THE CHARACTER. SHOW ME. I've been shot at for some 300 in-game hours by Raiders, and you try to humanize them with a few paragraphs of text? Are you fucking high Todd??? How does that, at all, make me pause in my endless gruesome anti-raider crusade and go "huh these guys aren't that bad, are they"?

Bethesda shoots themselves in the foot every time they try to write something more complicated than "go here, kill everything in the room, grab the macguffin that unlocks the next objective". It isn't that their writing is itself bad, they just squander opportunities.

>>34824251
And you have no idea how nukes work, it doesn't matter if it's hundreds or thousands of nukes, the various radioactive isotopes produced by nukes would decay into harmless within the 200 years.

>>34835708
part 2.

What i mean by the need to create antagonists is that, when you come down to it, they are kinda running out of ideas.

>Fallout 1: Mutants galore
>Fallout 2: Enclave, rise of the NCR
>Fallout 3: Enclave AND Mutants galore
>Fallout NV: NCR vs. Legion
>Fallout 4: slightly-less-evil Enclave and mutants galore

There really isn't a lot of variety in terms of enemy factions. You have tribals (Great Khans, Jackals, White Legs), a "modern"-ish army (NCR), Mobile Suit Infantry (BoS, Enclave), and Raiders (fiends).

But going forward, they can't just recycle the Enclave again, or it will feel weirdly forced. "Hey, didn't these guys get BTFO on an Oil Rig and in DC twice? Why aren't they dead??"

Even the BoS is starting to get overplayed. It would work much better if it was made clear that they BoS was heading East to avoid the NCR. That would have been an excellent reason for their presence in the East Coast. We know the NCR BTFO them before, it wouldn't be unreasonable for the BoS to flee east under the guise of "getting technology", when really they just need to form a technostate away from the NCR.

The most damning thing is that Bethesda clearly touched on the Raider thing a little. The Saugus Iron Works raiders were at least somewhat unique. They had their own special gear and preferred weapons that made them flavorful. They had a named leader. They weren't just "raiders #123243". If they split Fallout 4's map into 6-8 raider turfs, with turf wars and distinct flavors of raider, it would help with monotony. iD did it with the similar post-apocalypse game RAGE. While it was something of a flop, each raider gang had distinct look and fighting styles and hideouts.

Even in OBLIVION, there are rival Goblin Clans and you can deliberately make those clans fight by stealing their totems and dropping them elsewhere. If it works in Oblivion, it would work in Fallout 4, it's just a matter of will.

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>>34806795

After enough mods I found myself enjoying Fallout 4. Principally, they focused around fixing bethesdas fucking abortions. Weapons mods to get rid of the retarded weapons, alternate start mod so I could do my own thing. PC voice removal, and an Reshade preset to get rid of the retardedly bright and happy atmosphere the game seemed to have. I also fucked around with config file to increase the fov, remove the Framerate Cap and Mouse acceleration, which would make me feel physically sick

You have to stay away from anything even resembling a main quest, but I got it working in the end. Then again, it's more a testament to how good the modding community is, rather than how good fallout 4 is.

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>>34835866

>>34835866
>You have to stay away from anything even resembling a main quest,
jesus christ this, the majority of quest I've played are downloaded from the nexus

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>>34835812
part 3/3 (rage)

Here's what I'd do if I was writing Fallout 4:

1- Try out the entire planned main story arc on Pen and Paper. That's right, we are playing Dungeons and Dragons: Fallout Edition before we commit. Why? Because this will reveal a number of weaknesses in plot ("huh that doesn't make much sense now that we see it") and allow writers to see more protagonist choices ("huh, I guess you COULD solve it that way... let's code that in").

2- Do the same for every side mission

3- Actually have interesting side missions that aren't exclusively linked to companions. The USS Constitution was the high-point of the entire game

4- Acknowledge that it's okay to limit player options... SO LONG as it is consistent with their past choices (Are you a raider? Guess you aren't getting into _____ now)

5- Resurrect the faction system used in Fallout: New Vegas

6- Make your enemies varied not just in crude type (human, robot, mutant) but within themselves (different raider groups, as mentioned above). This goes double for humans.

7-Keep the world moving and alive. As the players advance through the plot, things should be noticeably changing. If you are in an NCR vs. Legion type situation, as you progress through the help-NCR quests I should be seeing NCR bases expanding. I should be seeing Legion camps setting up. Note, we DO see this in F:NV to an extent, but in Fallout 4 it is very abrupt (Airship suddenly appears in Act II). This should be true for NPCs who are on your protags' side too; my settlements shouldn't just be subsistence hovels when I've invested 100,000 caps into each.

8- Realize its okay for player to fail when they fail to act/act improperly. Not every play-style will find the "best" solution to something. Let the diplomats be diplomats, let the fighters be the fighters, and realize that there is a disparity between the two, and the most apparent solution won't always be the best. Let players try to figure things out. Treat them like adults.

>>34806795
The most /k/ faction of FO4 was the ONE faction you couldn't join: The Gunners.

Pissed me off that I couldn't join them. Bethesda... you done goofed.

It could have been epic!


Oh... and fuck Preston Garvey... and your stupid quests.

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>>34836189
>fuck Preston Garvey.

We need to bring the Minutemen back from brink General, now go defend this settlement of 2 farmers.

>>34836214
That picture sums up exactly what you should have been able to do with the settlements in the vanilla game. Instead, Bethesda capped the crap out of your development efforts so your settlement always looked like shit in the end.

Bethesda should just hire modders next time... or have someone else develop FO5.

Speaking of FO5... any idea as to where it will take place? Any idea of release dates?

>>34836382
item caps should have been active only for console peasants. a mod can fix it to unlimited for the master race at least

>>34836382
Rumor has it that Fallout: New Orleans was trademarked in Europe or something.

I doubt it will be next year, maybe 2019, maybe 2020, with a new Elder Scrolls falling in somewhere. I think they are still trying to push Elder Scrolls Online though, so I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

>>34835988

id also suggest bringing back quest related perks like in NV OLD world blues where you can become part cyborg for a durability boost

i missed weapon durability

>>34835988
What kind of fucking gif was that

>>34836551
You don't need a mod, console commands let you edit that anyways.

>>34836811
I forget where I got it anon, but I decided to share.

>>34836794
YES. And not just make things as pitiful as "you got super vault aids that lowers your HP by 10 points".

I can burn a living tree and get damage reduction in FO3, yet I get basically nothing for Fallout 4 because it wouldn't fit on the perk chart.

>>34836801
It probably wouldn't be bad to have that back as long as it wasn't as exaggerated as it sometimes was. Or at least make Jury Rigging a perk again, because JR was GOAT.

>t-60 power armour
>only one ramshackle raider armour

im still mad

>>34836862

i cant even believe how many things i had to do just to avoid the stupid vault aids bullshit

the worst part is they probably thought that was a good attempt at "decisions with repercussions"

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>>34836382
>Speaking of FO5
the next FO will probably be a spinoff contracted out to another studio while Beth works on Valenwood

>>34835708
>Unfortunately, "evil distant technocrats" are basically what the Enclave already were

The Institute should have been Mad Science England. They should have been extorting resources from the Commonwealth openly and using their Synth army to protect their territory. Make them attack anyone with heavy weaponry (can't have plebs damaging the valuable synths), or anyone who speaks or writes against them, and you'd have a much better fit for the game's Revolutionary War themes. Also, it would give the Institute better motives for deploying infiltrator Synths and fighting the Minutemen. It would give them a better reason to focus on Synth development in the first place. It would even have made Piper seem like less of a joke by giving her a meaningful authoritarian power to speak truth to instead of just the weakling mayor character.

The Institute having mysterious internal structure and a hidden location was fine, but working so hard to keep its existence ambiguous in the beginning was dumb. It created numerous huge plot holes that could have been easily avoided.

>>34808000
wasted trips

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the enclave will rise again!

>>34833620
There is a several GB mod for FOT that does just that, adding drivable M1A2s and vertibird CAS, but I never tried it and mods for tactics were always jankey as fuck.

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>>34837477
Preach it, brother

>>34836862

>clink clink
>duct tape noise

>>34836862
>repair an amr with bb guns, yes please.

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>>34837409
>Valenwood
This guy doesn't know their rebooting Daggerfall

>>34836763
>Fallout: New Orleans
Why? So we can have half the map be fucking water again?

>>34817768
Make the flames burn more. Open air is basically an accelerant when your falling.

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>>34838944
>Daggerfall reboot
Don't you be playin' with me, anon