Why are competent terrorists such a unicorn /k/? Pic related,

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>>34795561
most crime isn't done by intelligent people because most crimes have costs that outweigh the benefits
as a result the people who do most of the crimes don't do them well.

>>34795561
>A competent Patriot

Fixed that for you.

Because guns make everyone equal, dumbass whitie can compete with god tier Allah Akbarian IED usage.
Get rid of guns and you will see the French clinch it all again.

>>34795650

came here to say this

pretty sad that OP couldn't figure this one out on his own

>>34795751
The only thing French people clinch is their ass cheeks.

>>34795764
Bomb making, unending butthurt from Murifats, an accent, arms dealing, and the destruction of white nationalist dreams.

>>34795561
Because all terrorist attacks are essentially false flags executed by alphabet soup agencies. they don't need competent people to play front role.

>Why aren't mass murderers more sound of mind

>>34795561
>All it takes for someone to pull off a terrorist attack and get away with it is
>basic weapons knowledge
No need, Allah will make my gun work and guide muh boolets.
>knowledge to make simple bombs
No need, Allah will guide muh hands when he decides I should build one
>and a basic knowledge of criminology
No need, Allah will hide me from LEOs.

If I fail at any/all of this, it is the will of Allah.

>and guess what, all this knowledge happens to be on the internet and easily acquirable
If you are using the Internet for anything other than uploading/watching beheading videos and communicating with other cells, you're using it wrong.

>>34795923
Does the tinfoil get warm in summer?

>>34795978
Not all terrorist attacks are set up, but many of them are. It's one of the FBI's main functions.

>>34796006
Go back to /x/, Frank.

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>>34795561

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>>34796084
This is off topic but Timothy McVeigh is the go to guy for trolling the Molon Labe crowd who talk tough about shooting feds. Its like mentioning Trump or Hitler to a cuckservative because they know damn well they've had 80+ years to fight the gun grabbing.

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The hero we deserve. He was a good boy and dindu nuffin.

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>All it takes for someone to pull off a terrorist attack and get away with it

And you used McVeigh as your example?

>>34795650
>most crime isn't done by intelligent people because most crimes have costs that outweigh the benefits

Pretty much this. When you read into McVeigh it's very obvious that he never really expected to get away or live, which is how he wound up going through with it. He was a chronically depressed loner working shit dead end jobs with no partner or children. He had absolutely nothing to lose.

It's kind of scary to think about how many potential McVeighs are walking around, where the only reason they didn't bomb something/shoot someone is because they had a great job or a kid to raise or something.

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>>34795692
>>34796084
>>34796162
>>34796232
>falling for a cia psyop designed to discredit and end the militia movement

>>34795561
>competent terrorists

because most people generally still want to live unless they are mentally ill & then they are usually incapable of doing things competently

>>34795561
>Unicorn
not
>Unibomber

If you measure the success of a terror attack or -campaign by the body count accumulated by terrorists who got away with it you likely won't find many successful terrorists.
If you instead measure it by what change it brought about or how much it made people fear the perpetrators,I think you'll find that it's not something one man can do alone easily. Most often it will require a group effort, and even the mind behind it all will need some expendable useful idiots.
There are exceptions, of course. The DC snipers made people deathly afraid, despite being only two, and (cue Scooby-Doo villain) they would've gotten away with it too, if only they hadn't been so careless. The IRA also made people scared as fuck without killing very many, if you'll consider both their bombing and sniping campaigns. They also had the home field advantage, and thus, knowledge of many places to hide or people willing to cover them.
Of course, body count and competence are not mutually exclusive. One case comes to mind where some guy who got shot in Pakistan a while back got a bunch of fellows to jack some planes and fly them into buildings and made it so that safety measures all over the world were cranked up to 11 permanently, and to this day has people being wary of musulmen in public spaces.
The perpetrators getting caught or letting their motive get known also helps them gain notoriety, mind. If you get away with terrorism and nobody knows who's to blame, you're really just a mass murderer.
...those are my 2 cents on the matter, at least.

>>34795561
McVeigh planted a bomb that was right next to where my cousin sat. All they found was her ear. I always thought it was weird they bothered holding a funeral with a coffin for that.

Terrorism attracts people who are poor, desperate, illiterate/un(der)educated. If you have someone reading your religious book for and to you, you're more inclined to take their word when they start adding in passages about taking out the white devil.

Smart people in terrorist organizations get promoted or taken out, because they could be a threat to the position of other higher ups, since they know there are limited career options in terrorism. Organizations need foot soldiers to spam suicide bombs, not thinkers.

>>34796564
>I always thought it was weird they bothered holding a funeral with a coffin for that.

Efficient disposal of biological waste isn't exactly what funerals are about. The coffin is both container and symbol.

>/k/ supports christian terrorists

>>34796564
What about Ted? Extremely intelligent AND educated.

My favorite so far has been that daesh magazine they distribute around Europe, which tells "lone wolves" in the US to use the "gunshow loophole" to get guns for their attacks as they might be on a nofuns list. They couldn't even take an hour to research US gun laws and talk about private purchases.

>>34795561
Same reason competent criminals are rare: the average human is pretty stupid and thus easily caught before they can blow anything up succesfully. Trying to recruit the rare non-stupid, attack-capable humans without getting spotted/infiltrated by law enforcement is crazy difficult. The rare exceptions to this (e.g. IRA) had decades of history and a unified ideology not to mention a fair bit of luck (and actually mostly relied on average, stupid people being led by a minority of smart people).

I mean lone wolf faggots are a different case but again, most humans are dumb and most non-dumb humans don't want to blow other people up (or don't want to do so more than they want an easy life).

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>>34796651
He also only killed like 3 people.

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>>34796415
You want me on that watch list! Because deep down in threads you don't post in you need me on that watch list!

>>34796324
>had a great job or a kid to raise or something
Wow, almost like being part of society gives you a stake in that society functioning in a peaceful manner!

Seriously, this is not a revelation of any kind.

>>34795561
>randomly pulled over by a cop

His getaway vehicle didn't have a license plate. That's why he was pulled over.

Mcveigh was far from competent. He was lucky. If he was competent he wouldn't have left a mile long evidence trail.

>>34795978
After Snowden revelations tinfoil jokes lost their traction.

>>34796651
MKULTRA test subject.

>>34795963
>communicating with other cells
>on the fucking internet
that's the same as talking with them on the phone
you're begging to get NSA'd then FBI'd.

>>34795561
>Mcveigh would've made it out if he didn't get randomly pulled over by a cop, if he did more preparation and didn't act retarded he wouldn't have been caught.

this is what I find with nearly all crimes that are almost successful. they dont plan it out all the way to the end. you haven't gotten away with it until you're drinking boat drinks.

>>34796564
>Terrorism attracts people who are poor, desperate, illiterate/un(der)educated. If you have someone reading your religious book for and to you, you're more inclined to take their word when they start adding in passages about taking out the white devil.
Funny that you use McVeigh and follow up with that example.

>>34797131
claim*, McVeigh was obviously the example.

>>34795650
>turning the stars and stripes into something hugging a bimbo's ass
I'd hate fuck her

>>34795650
Sauce on that semen demon?

>>34797106
>Allah has a plan
>everything I do is the will of Allah
>everything that happens to me is the will of Allah
>Allah will hide me from ABC-soup
>if I get NSA'd, CIA'd and/or FBI'd it is the will of Allah

>>34797984
>Insha'Allah

>>34796245
Why is there a giant AK mag on the floor?

>>34797131
I was intending to imply that he is the exception, not the rule.

>>34797489
Seriously? All the American flags that fudds and retarded racists put all over their Chinese made shit doesn't upset you but a hot girl does? Anon.

>>34796324

This is also the reason why violent revolutions are unlikely to happen in the USA. As long as you have something to lose from violence (a loved one, a child, a job) and there's nothing like a famine that can be traced directly to the government, there is no reason to head out and try to shoot people you politically disagree with.

That's why the radical left won't get the violent revolution it wants against Trump; people have too much to lose fighting and there's nothing terrible like a famine or food prices that are so high as to be unpurchasable by most people happening to justify a violent and drastic overthrow of the government.

>>34798095
not him but imho those are different because the flag is on her ass too. Meaning that every time she sits she's sitting on the flag. Symbolic no no much more so than putting an american flag on a chinese made car that's in america and owned by americans. That's more like buying something from somebody and then pissing on it to mark your territory.

>>34795561

Because competent terrorists need to actually know how to drive and have a legally valid driver's license if they want a big dump truck. Most are incapable of doing this.

>>34797106
As I recall, the Bataclan crew (at least one of them a suspect the French authorities were warned about and knew were in country) communicated by way of SMS.
Of course the governments used the terror attack as leverage when trying to push through more privacy-invading legislations and bans on encrypted communication, but the fact remains that the authorities already had the means to know every single thing coming out of the guy's phone, but didn't use the opportunity. If you'll look at the terror attacks in one of the best CCTV-covered cities in the world (London), all the cameras did was to provide the talentless coppers with a means of watching innocent civillians get stabbed. Maybe they should have mounted knife surrender bins to the cameras? Theresa May's solution to the violence? MORE surveillance on the Internet than the Brits are already suffering.
...But I digress.
My point being that while I doubt the US authorities are as incompetent, what with how they've cracked down on those "don't come to school tomorrow" posters on this website, I'm fairly certain they can't take everyone.
Well, provided they haven't already got everyone with a funny-sounding last name on a list already.

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>>34795561
>why

waste too much time here is my guess

Killing innocent bystanders/human shields with bombs is bitch mode. Thinking you won't get caught is stupid. A truly competent terrorist uses a rifle to take out a HVT and doesn't expect to live.

>>34796415
>implying the militia movement itself doesn't already do that constantly

>>34795561
McVeigh is a personal hero of mine. True patriot.

>>34798053
That's how they release the cocktail

>>34798149
Same reason Texas has been too pussy to secede like they've been claiming for centuries

>>34798095

>US Flag Code §176 (e): "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, [...]"

>>34806337
It's only got 48 stars so it can't be considered the us flag

>>34795650
>most crime isn't done by intelligent people because most crimes have costs that outweigh the benefits

This exact thing.

It is dead easy to break the law and get away with it if you're good (Read: smart or hardworking.)

But people don't. Because if you're good enough to get away with breaking the law, you're good enough that you can create a life for yourself that doesn't require breaking the law.

This is one of the reasons civil wars get as terrible as they do - all the people who would be really good at doing terrible things are suddenly in situations where they have to do terrible things. And they apply all their skills and work ethics to those horrible things.

This is also why all the terrorists caught by the FBI are named stuff like Yussuf Ben Retard, and the only reason they had a plan was because the FBI gave them one, while all the people successfully pulling off crazy shit like 9/11 have names like Mahmoud ibn Engineer (NEET brigade).

So to answer OP's question:

>>34795561
>Why are competent terrorists such a unicorn /k/?

If you're competent, you don't need to be a terrorist to accomplish your goals.

>>34796837
no plate? Are you shitting me? That's absolute full retard.

>>34795561
Competent terrorists realised a long time ago that they don't need to perform competent attacks to get results.

So they send dumb fuck terrorists out to stab people and blow themselves up, because governments are going to overreact regardless of whether twenty or two hundred are killed.

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>>34795561
>All it takes for someone to pull off a terrorist attack and get away with it is basic weapons knowledge, knowledge to make simple bombs and a basic knowledge of criminology,
You forgot *and a sociopathic personality.

>>34806337
The flag is not the pattern you extreme faggot.

>>34806337
>the flag
>flag patterned clothing
You appear to be confused. I can't fly a flag patterned tshirt from a flagpole and fool anyone into thinking it's a real flag.

>>34795561
He was competent because he didn't use a SIG.

>>34806358

Gonna mention Deviant Ollam here (A fellow gun owner)

Deviant is a physical entry specialist. People hire his company to break into their buildings to see where their security could need improvements.

Deviant has been doing this for years.

During a post-talk Q&A session, somebody asked him if he'd ever been caught, or if they ever found a building they couldn't get into.

They have been caught zero times*. They have been hired and unable to get in exactly zero times.

Deviant and his team could roll through America like fire through a straw factory.

But they don't need to because, hey, they're making money without.

*Although see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIju2jrHY6U&feature=youtu.be&t=5h16m35s

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>>34806401
>not using a time delay device consisting of a candle, that slowly burns through a rope, that drops a Sig suspended in the air, that detonates a primary explosive via high-velocity impact
Siggily diggily

It's the same reason you don't see navy seals and commandos going on mass shootings. When you're a competent alpha, when you reap the benefits of society you have no reason to kill people indiscriminately. Even Dorner wasn't a real typical mass shooter for this very reason, he went to war with the LAPD not society at large, he made a point NOT to shoot civilians. A super mass shooter is extremely unlikely it would have to be a perfect witches brew of bad life experiences statistically extremely unlikely to turn someone whose like navy seal caliber into a mass shooter. Even then they may just end up like the ICE man Richard Kuklinski.

>>34806378
>You forgot *and a sociopathic personality.


https://youtu.be/YIju2jrHY6U?t=5h15m26s

>>34806405
>>34806453

Wait you can't have youtube links start at a designated time?

Haha fuck that noise, those are five hours long I don't expect you to sit through that.


>>34806405
The story of almost getting caught is at
5h16m35s

>>34806453
The story of not being a sociopath is at
5g15m26s

>>34806448
That was beautifully written (Screen Capped)

>>34806468

Eh, could be better.

Gonna rewrite.

>>34806435

Dorner is actually a great example of somebody competent being put in a situation where their competence isn't securing a good life.

This is an issue governments have the world over - you should never ever put yourself in a situation where people cannot get restitution if you wrong them, because while that saves you from the "little people" who you can ignore, occasionally you harm a competent person. You want him to be able to win a lawsuit against you so he feels justice has happened.

Because if you put a competent person into a corner with no way out?

You Can't Corner the Dorner.

>>34806435
>he made a point NOT to shoot civilians
He shot a few family members of policemen.

>>34806538
>He shot a few family members of policemen.
You mean the policeman's personal supply train.

Attacks on logistics are valid in asymmetrical warfare.

>>34806538
Not surprised, but he didn't shoot people indiscriminately.

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>>34806572
>Attacks on logistics
See pic.
>>34806580
The LAPD more than made up for that, thankfully.

>>34806598
>>>34806580 (You)
>The LAPD more than made up for that, thankfully.

pretty much

>>34795561
>McVeigh
>Get away with it
>Died by execution

>>34807655
well he was "close"

>>34798053
those are effects pedals

>>34809606
>we're going to toally remix your death gurgle m8, s'gonna be sick

>>34795561
>get away with it
> executed

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>>34806352

>>34806405
>But they don't need to because, hey, they're making money without.
why not both??

>>34795692
>patriot
kys lol

>>34796636
no shit dumbass

>>34796636
McVeigh was an atheist or are you talking about the IRA? I know McVeigh had a priest because his parents were religious.