>Top scoring U.S. 'ace' from the Vietnam war (Charles DeBellevue) was a Weapons System Officer and never fired a missile or cannon.
DeBellevue scored 6 kills, obviously shared kills with his pilot/s. Meanwhile the highest scoring Vietnamese ace scored 10 kills and flew single seat fighters.
The charlie ace was probably 14 different dudes. who can tell with those people?
>>34783957
Go ahead and tell us how easy a third-gen radar is to operate while dodging SAMs, talking on the radio, and CAPing at your assigned point. The WSO is just as vital to the Phantom team as the pilot. Radar technology and pilot-vehicle interface simply required a 2nd crew member.
>>34783957
>rotate pilots in and out of theater for many years as you have thousands of pilots.
>use the same pilots over and over again without giving them many breaks
Guess which countries followed which doctrines fucknuts. Stop implying stupid shit.
>>34784141
These are all confirmed by gun camera footage and/or wreckage. The VPAF were pretty particular about confirming kills.
Nguyen Van Bay:
24/4/66 - F-4 - Phai Lai area
25/4/66 - A-4 - Phai Lai area
26/4/66 - F-4
21/6/66 - F-4 - Phai Lai area
21/6/66 - F-8
29/6/66 - F-105 - Tam Dao area
5/9/66 - F-105 - Tam Dao area
29/6/66 - F-105 - Tab Dao area
24/4/67 - F-4 - Ha Noi
25/4/67 - A-4 - Haiphong
Thats 10 kills total.
I count 10 aces (at least 5 kills) glancing at the VPAF list of kills.
There are reasons for this: the VPAF flew in a target rich environment, were carefully vectored in by GCI, usually hit and run, and did not have 'tours of duty' they usually kept flying until they died or were promoted to flight instructors.
Most US air-crews never even saw a MiG, let alone shot one down. The VPAF being almost always outnumbered 6 to 1 were guaranteed a kills every 10 missions or so.
Some VPAF pilots racked up over 600 missions iirc.
See, Nhat? this is where I shot down the second american! Two in the same mission!
>>34784331
wtf I hate communism now
>>34783957
Weren't pilots rotated out or sent back stateside after getting 5 kills?
>>34784542
100 missions.
>>34784269
t. RIO
>>34784375
There are two kinds of things.
A. Stuff Nguen Van Bay gives shit about.
B. Uniform regulations.
>>34784989
honorary grunt