Why are there no "long range" shotguns? Like some form

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>>34761711

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>"meters"

>>34761711
They tried it with Project Salvo, but in the end they found that a more or less conventional rifle firing smaller, but still more or less conventional rifle cartridges was more effective.

>>34761711
Buy a full choke nigger

>>34761711
because a shotgun
(1) can't stabilize shot with rifling so even with a full choke it'll just fly off target at a certain range
(2) doesn't fire large enough shot that retains much energy at range

>>34761740
>Jew shit
Says the burger whose parents let the doctor chop off his cock.

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>>34761740
what kind of faggot has the first phalanx of the annular so short anyway

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>>34761711
There's long(er) range ammo. Look for stuff with a flite control wad.

>>34761711
>Why are there no "long range" shotguns?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlin_Model_55

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>>34766440
speaking of flitecontrol
Is it better or worse with improved cylinder chokes? Or maybe no noticeable difference?

>>34766152
poorly made knockoff made by a butthurt euro

>>34761711
It was called the SPIW program and it failed for a reason

>>34761711
Cannister shot exists. Thats all I got

>>34761711

Because the pressures that shotguns operate at are actually kind of mild.

Chamber pressure for a shotgun is around 15k, while it can be 30k for a standard pistol or over 50k for a rifle.

>>34761711
But anon, long range multi projectile weapon systems exist. They're called machine guns.

And you have canister shots for tanks, which are pretty much 120mm tungsten buckshot rounds.

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>>34769230
Do NOT use a choke with it. Either cylinder bore, or it'll expand just like it's any old shitty buckshot.
I tried it.
Read the yellow text in my pic.

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>>34773808
Forgot I actually had a pic to go with this. I haven't doctored it or anything since I didn't expect to use it ever.
Here's 20 yards with chokes.
I believe the left pattern is with a mod choke, and the right is with the full. Either way, don't use a choke or it's flite control wad is 100% pointless.

>>34773833
improved cylinder is only 0.005 inches tighter than cylinder whereas full is 0.035
I only have an improved cylinder choke, I was hoping that it wouldn't really matter with the difference being so small.

Flechette shells have existed since the Vietnam war and are supposed to do exactly that, but the improved range of a cluster of clothing pins over a cluster of buckshot is questionable.