The first rule of gun safety is that all guns are loaded. Therefore,

>>34743296
How does one clean a loaded gun?

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>>34743296

>he's never heard of a clearing bucket

>>34743296
The 4 rules are dangerous. They tend to put a person on auto pilot after a while where gun safety is concerned. Assume nothing where guns are concerned. Pay attention and check for yourself.

>>34743342
By field stripping it and wiping it out with solvent.
>>34743345
I made a perfectly good argument. Guns are essentially dangerous and therefore should not be fired, loaded or not, except in a safe direction.
>>34743347
Clearing bucket--clearing barrel: same thing.

>>34743296
>being retarded
>being retarded in multiple threads, even after being told you're a retard

>>34743388
What other threads?
>>34743371
Or you could just follow the 4 rules and never have an accidental discharge.

>>34743396
>accidental
this is bait

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>>34743386
How would you fire an unloaded gun?

>>34743406
Yes, accidental. Accidental discharges can happen if you don't treat guns with the proper respect.

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>>34743418
ill go ahead and give another (You)
its negligent discharge faggot

>>34743296
I can't wait to keep a bucket of sand in my house!
Or I could just not be a lazy fuck and check before dry firing.
Fuck your bucket OP.

>>34743412
It's called dry fire.

>>34743296
Coopers rules are great for nogunz and autists, but for laypeople or hasgunz, not so much.

>always treat a gun as if it's loaded.
You clear it and remove the clearly empty magazine. Is it still loaded? Fuck no, and you proved it.

>don't muzzle anything you're not willing to destroy
Well, it's really fuckin hard to get guns to a range or into a holster, then. Since your autistic rule 1 says theyre loaded no matter what.

>keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire
Good luck field stripping a striker fired gun, cycling old revolvers, or working the safety on M1-based rifles. Or doing dry-fire exercises.

>know what is in front of and behind your target
I'll agree to that one.

>>34743296
>The first rule of gun safety is that all guns are loaded. Therefore, you should never practice reloading. You only need to reload if your gun is empty, and it can't be empty because the first rule says otherwise. If you have to practice reloading, get a replica gun or airsoft.

>>34743439
>You clear it and remove the clearly empty magazine. Is it still loaded? Fuck no, and you proved it.
It doesn't matter you always treat it as if it were. It merely adds to safety

>>34743388
Double dubs of truth. Kys OP.

>>34743418
Found the RO

>>34743439
Man you are autistic

>>34743457
I don't wanna destroy the seats of my car, but if I carry there's a loaded gun pointed at the seat of my car sometimes. The actual point here is that rules can't be followed like your autistic, or you'll function as badly as a real autist. There are common-sense, and use dictated exceptions to coopers rules, despite the good safe foundation of habits they instill in new shooters.

>>34743296
If you've personally made safe, the firearm is obviously unloaded. If you step away or don't immediately disassemble the firearm, check it again before you do.

>>34743478
You are autistic

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>>34743457
>It merely adds to safety
how much safer can a weapon be if its unloaded and safety checked
>10/10 made me take bait

Also, dry firing is for poorfags. FFS scrape together a few bucks, buy some cheap ammo, go to the range, and actually fire your gun instead of pretend-firing it.

Contrarian asshole opinion incoming.

The 4 rules only exist because a majority of people are basically high-functioning retards. People who aren't complete mongoloids don't need to obey the 4 rules. It's rediculously easy to check if a firearm is loaded. If it's not loaded, then the safety rules don't apply. Stick it in your mouth and pull the trigger, it doesn't fucking matter. 4 rules are for plebs.

>>34743396
>What other threads?
The last time you made this shit thread

>>34743457
>It doesn't matter you always treat it as if it were.
Yeah, by safety checking it whenever you pick it up, retard.

>>34743430
Semantics.
>>34743431
You're being lazy by not getting a bucket of sand.
>>34743439
Cooper's rules, like the metric system, were designed to be for everyone. That was the whole idea. Before then, people had rules that were specific to certain people or certain situations. The genius of Cooper's rules is their universality.
>>34743439
>You clear it and remove the clearly empty magazine. Is it still loaded? Fuck no, and you proved it.
Would you be OK with someone pointed an unloaded gun at you? I wouldn't. Just because it's unloaded doesn't mean you have a right to be careless.
>>34743439
>Well, it's really fuckin hard to get guns to a range or into a holster, then. Since your autistic rule 1 says theyre loaded no matter what.
You can't holster a loaded gun? I never holster a gun unless it IS loaded.
>>34743439
>Good luck field stripping a striker fired gun, cycling old revolvers, or working the safety on M1-based rifles. Or doing dry-fire exercises.
Cooper himself did dry fire exercises, but he didn't let his finger ride on the trigger.
>>34743456
It's not meant to be taken literally. Cooper is using something that educated people call hyperbole. It works by exaggerating a statement to emphasize its importance.
>>34743478
>but if I carry there's a loaded gun pointed at the seat of my car sometimes
That's why you have a holster. The rules are called rules of HANDLING. If it's in a holster or on a shelf, you're not handling it.
>>34743499
There's no such thing as a safe weapon. Weapons, by definition, are designed to be dangerous.
>>34743508
>The last time you made this shit thread
I haven't made this thread before.
>>34743508
>Yeah, by safety checking it whenever you pick it up, retard.
Safe handling starts with checking the action, but it should not end there.

>>34743505
The 4 rules exist so that you can break one and not have an accident.

>>34743457
>nogunz detected
If a gun isn't loaded, how is it unsafe? Do you think guns can load and fire themselves? Or is it going to bludgeon me to death?

>>34743503
Noguns detected.

>>34743499
>how much safer can a weapon be if its unloaded and safety checked
Because not everyone knows it is. That's why you treat it as if it were

You never point a gun at someone even if it's unloaded its just rule of thumb shit. It's easy to keep a weapon pointed in a safe direction

OH im cleaning my rifle. Obviously I'm gonna unload it but I'm not gonna clean it while it's pointed at someone I'll clean it on my bench and away from shit

Same goes with my pistol. I keep my finger off the trigger even if I know it's unloaded it's still good habit to simply be aware of where the barrel is pointing

You never need a clearing bucket. Clearing buckets are for retards who don't check their guns and practice good safety

>>34743521
Are you shitposting because you're bored at work or because you don't have a job?

>>34743521
>nogunz
your thread is shit and you're autistic
remember sage all fields

>>34743544
>If a gun isn't loaded, how is it unsafe
Rule of thumb you fucking autist

I bet you sweep people at ranges too

>>34743544
Every time somebody has an accidental discharge, what's the first thing he says?
>I thought it was unloaded
Don't be that guy. All guns are loaded, even when they aren't.
>>34743559
Not an argument.

>>34743521
>metric system
nogunz confirmed.

>>34743296

What if you're on a second floor apartment and you can dry fire it into the floor?


Oh thats right "lol guns are always loaded" is a stupid rule

>>34743574
>All guns are loaded, even when they aren't.

This was never meant to be taken so literally and to pretend otherwise is asinine.

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>>34743574
>All guns are loaded, even when they aren't.
guess im never cleaning my guns again

>>34743583
Maybe you should have the awareness of you and your environment to point the gun in a safe direction where ever it is

All negligent discharges can be prevented.

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>>34743572
calling others autistic while being autistic about rules. I bet you get pissy when people pull guns out on the range and they're pointing the wrong way right out of the case.

>>34743574
>All guns are loaded, even when they aren't.
Well I'll be dammed, cleaning guns is verboten now. This anon said so!

Saged this cancer so hard.

>>34743521
Look mom I responded to everyone!
Heres a (you) for you m8

>>34743623
No one is being autistic about general safety rules. They're not meant to be interpreted literally

You know the gun is loaded but treat it as if it were by keeping your finger off the trigger and not pointing it at people

>>34743576
The first smokeless cartridge was metric.
>>34743583
A bucket of sand will stop the bullet.
>>34743589
>Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

>>34743591
>>34743623
Plenty of people have been injured or killed when cleaning guns. The 4 rules are ESPECIALLY important when cleaning. If you have to look down the bore, always remove the bolt first.
>>34743625
>>34743596
Not an argument.

>>34743591
Dont be a fudd. You know exactly what he meant.

>>34743635
I was not trying to argue with you, just wondering why you are in such desperate need of argueing with people that you feel the need to reply to every single post

All negligent discharges can be prevented if you simply follow the rules. Anything else is human error and negligence via poor handling

>>34743296
Just clear it by pointing it at your temple. If you couldn't properly clear the weapon, then what happens is probably for the best.

Of course, someone is probably stupid enough to do this. Please don't. Fucktard.

>>34743657
The argument is civility. Truth comes out in argument.

>>34743635
>The 4 rules are ESPECIALLY important when cleaning.
It's almost like you should verify that the firearm is unloaded before you start cleaning it... huh...

I go to a gunsmithing school. The only rule is "don't have ammo sitting at your desk". We don't obey the 4 rules for two reasons. The first reason is because it would be impossible. At least once a day I have to look down the barrel of a gun to check the bore. It's not possible to work on a gun and NOT have the muzzle pointed at yourself or someone else at least some of the time. Performing a function check involves pulling the trigger. The second reason we don't follow the 4 rules is that we assume anyone who has enough sense to be at that school probably isn't stupid enough to shoot themselves in the face. There has never been a negligent discharge at the school. 1000's of students over many decades and not a single accident. I've seen people point guns at other people's faces and pull the trigger just as as joke and it's fine, nobody cares.

Tl;dr
4 rules are for stupid dumb-dumbs

>>34743636
>All guns are loaded, even when they aren't.
i mean he was pretty clear about it. even if its been safety checked its always loaded.
i understand the "always treat a gun as if it's loaded" but hes just spewing autism at this point

>>34743684
>I'm a huge retard and interpreted the rules literally and not as a general rule of thumb so that means I must be violating the rule when I'm cleaning my rifle

You are the reason NDs occur

>>34743682
Clearing a firearm is all well and good, but you don't get to let your guard down after you've done that.
>>34743684
>At least once a day I have to look down the barrel of a gun to check the bore
That's why you remove the bolt first.
>>34743684
>Performing a function check involves pulling the trigger
That's why you have a clearing bucket.
>>34743684
>I've seen people point guns at other people's faces and pull the trigger just as as joke and it's fine
Dear Lord!
>>34743691
>always treat a gun as if it's loaded
When you word it like that, you weaken the statement, and then you fail to convey the gravity of the rule. Cooper chose his words deliberately.

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>>34743521
Is this bucket meme just an excuse you wanting to shoot sand in your house?
Or, are you just that paranoid?

>>34743715
No one WANTS to shoot sand in the house. It's never done intentionally except as a test that the bucket is working.

>>34743714
>Clearing a firearm is all well and good, but you don't get to let your guard down after you've done that.
What the fuck is the gun going to do after that? Fire off bullet that isn't there? Go beat an innocent melanin-enriched man?

>>34743739
Would that we would never again hear the words:
>But I thought it was unloaded!

>>34743703
So you're admitting the 4 rules don't need to be followed to a T?

>>34743714
>clearing bucket
You're retarded. It absolutely wouldn't be feasible to do this. I might have to perform a function check 8 or 9 times every 30 minutes for several hours if I'm trying to adjust a firing mechanism. The whole room would have to made out of clearing buckets.

>>34743714
>every single gun has a removable bolt
KYS

>>34743748
Read what you wrote. Try again. I have no clue what you were trying to say.

>>34743763
t. Illiterate pleb

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rate muh buckets /k/
will they work?
i try to be super dooper safe cause some internet autist told me so

>>34743750
>So you're admitting the 4 rules don't need to be followed to a T?
No one ever said they had to be followed to a t you fucking Mongoloid

>>34743784
You clearly aren't reading this thread, then.

>>34743750
>It absolutely wouldn't be feasible to do this.
Why not? Is sand super expensive where you live?
>>34743750
>might have to perform a function check 8 or 9 times every 30 minutes for several hours
You can use a clearing bucket more than once, you know. They don't go bad old food.
>>34743761
They all have some way you can open the action so it can't fire.
>>34743763
People always say "I didn't think it was loaded," right after they have an accident. I never want to hear those words again. Just because you don't think it's loaded--even if you are absolutely sure- beyond a ghost of a doubt-doesn't mean you get to be careless. Never let your guard down around a gun.
>>34743783
Not an argument.

>>34743296
Of all the shitposting memes to make a come back, clearing buckets are the worst.

>check gun
>is it loaded?
>no
>dry fire
You have autism.

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>>34743546
>Tells you to go shoot your gun
>this means nogunz
/b/tier retardation. 7/10 made me reply.

>>34743814
Not a good idea.
>>34743814
>You have autism.
No, I don't.

>>34743296
>The first rule of gun safety is that all guns are loaded.
Because we're all too stupid and blind to check a mag/chamber before we dry fire a gun.
Give me a break.

>>34743784
Then what are we arguing about? I'm not saying gun safety should never be practiced, just that following them to an autistic degree like Captain Clearing Bucket over here, is not necessary at all.

>Confirm gun isn't loaded
>Gun is now safe to dry fire and point in any direction

If you can't figure out if there is ammo in a magazine, if you can't see a brass casing sticking out if a chamber, then you probably shouldn't own guns or deserve to be removed from the gene pool.

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>>34743799

>>34743799
>Not an argument.
so m-muh-my buckets are good or not?
i really need to know I want to shoot sand cause i'm too retarded to tell if a round is chambered.

>>34743831
>Then what are we arguing about
Retards who claim they NEED to follow them to a t and how they can't function normally because they're so fucking autistic

OP please dont reproduce
hope you ND into a post office so you can never have guns

>>34743296
I always hated this rule. I don't know how many retards I have heard interpret this to mean that they should always have every gun loaded with on in the chamber. It should be changed to "always assume the gun is loaded."

People are just fucking stupid.

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>>34743799

Is op implying shooting into the level of the house below you is proper?

>>34743829
>>34743831
It's still not OK. A cleared gun is still a gun.
>>34743844
>>34743832
Nope, not an argument.
>>34743837
Still not an argument.
>>34743845
That'll never happen thanks to my adherence to the 4 rules.
>>34743855
If Cooper had worded it like that, people wouldn't take it seriously. He intentionally used hyperbole.

>>34743296
Is a clearing barrel when you keep the gun's barrel completely filled and sealed with water?

>>34743855
I always use "assume every gun is loaded, until proven without doubt otherwise"

How else are you going to fingerfuck your funs?

>>34743874
>Still not an argument.
not trying to be, just mocking you and your retarded bucket.

>>34743872
Not an argument.
>>34743873
No.
>>34743878
No, it's a barrel full of sand that you point the gun at whenever you have to dry fire. That way, if you forget to clear the chamber, your bullet will be stopped by the sand.
>>34743879
With a clearing barrel.
>>34743890
Because you have narcissistic insecurities. People with healthy self-esteem don't need to make fun of people on the internet.

>>34743904
>>34743874
Do you ever fondle your firearms when they're unloaded?

>>34743904
I kinda feel bad now because I'm pretty sure you actually, literally have autism.

>>34743907
Yes, but I don't point them at people, and I don't snap the trigger unless the barrel is in a safe direction.
>>34743909
No, I don't.

>>34743919
Congrats, you're breaking rule 1.

>>34743296

>Innaindoorrange
>Go to shoot the AR
>Accidentally the case backwards
>Open it
>The bolts locked back and the mag well is empty and there's a big orange lock and cable going through the action
>Rso sees this
>Autistic_screeching.png
>Tells me if I have to leave and retake the range safety class
>Leave the range
>Go shoot innawoods where the only rule is don't point your gun at people


There's a difference between being safe and using common sense and being autistic

>>34743929
Nope. I would never intentionally fire into a bucket of sand, but if it did happen, it would be OK. I would be very, very embarrassed, but I could still live with myself, since nobody and no property would be hurt.
>>34743937
Couldn't you just turn the case around?

>>34743937
Holy shit, really? Fuck that range. Don't give them your money anymore.

>>34743874
>If Cooper had worded it like that, people wouldn't take it seriously. He intentionally used hyperbole.
That is exactly the point I am making. People are misunderstanding the hyperbole.

>>34743799

M8 an empty gun isn't going to magically load it self.

>Get gun
>Remove mag
>Work action
>Visibly inspect the chamber and ensure it's empty
>Dry fire all day long

>>34743961
No, you are breaking rule 1, and by proxy, rule 3. You're handling a loaded firearm (because rule one says theyre always loaded) with your finger on the trigger, before you are ready to shoot (you're not ready to shoot, because it's "unloaded", which it isn't because rule 1)

See why these 4 rules are just guidelines, and not the infallible word of god? Calm your autism.

>>34743961

Because the gun was obviously safe

>>34743964
I stopped going, not because they're autistic, but because their roof caught fire and they couldn't keep their shit maintained

>>34744011
You wouldn't happen to be talking about DFW guns on Mockingbird lane in Dallas? Those guys are the biggest assholes and their building has almost collapsed like 3 times.

>>34743988
Doesn't matter. Every accidental discharge has always involved a gun that someone thought was unloaded. I don't care if you've checked it a hundred times. The point of gun safety is to develop good HABITS. Danger doesn't mean something bad happens the first time. Danger means something bad will happen if you get into the habit of doing the wrong thing.
>>34743996
If the gun is aimed at a bucket of sand, then I AM ready to fire.
>>34744011
>gun
>safe
Pick one. Guns are designed to be dangerous. It's when people get lazy and think "That could never happen to me," that they develop bad habits.

>>34744023
Your dedication to being a spastic retard is almost admirable. The general consensus is that you're retarded, yet you keep trudging along.

>>34744043
this whole thread is ascended bait

>>34744043
I'll give him credit for that. His autism is strong.

>>34743430
My safety broke and when I disengaged it, the gun fired. Luckily it was pointed down range. Is that negligent or accidental?

Don't fire a loaded gun if there's stuff you're not willing to kill/injure/destroy in the path of the bullet.

There, one universal rule for everyone, retards included.

>>34744072
if something broke in your gun and that caused it to fire that would be accidental

>>34744043
>The general consensus is that you're retarded
That's not true. A lot of people outside /k/ would agree with me. Even so, truth is not determined by consensus.
>>34744072
>Is that negligent or accidental?
What difference does it make? The only thing that matters is that nobody was hurt.

>>34744090
Rules are supposed to develop good habits. Safety should be something that you do with little conscious thought. You shouldn't even have to ask yourself, "Is this gun loaded?"

>>34744023

This is what my gun looked like. If you don't think that's safe then you're an autistic retard. >>34744022
Nah senpai. Its a public range in NC

>>34743874
>It's still not OK. A cleared gun is still a gun.
You probably do more dangerous stuff at work every day if you aren't a desk jockey.
Not buying it. I'm capable of seeing whether it's loaded or not. Whether I think it's loaded or not, I'll give it a good check though.

>>34744152
You forgot the picture.

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>>34744152
Forgot pic.

This gun is obviously empty and safe and won't kill you if you look at it wrong which is what OP believes in his autistic little mind

>>34744163
I know you're capable of checking it, but checking it is a conscious decision. It's when act automatically that your habits become the difference between life and death.
>>34744168
Were you pointing it at a person or just at the wall?

>>34744152
>public range in NC
is there any decent outdoor ranges in/near raleigh

>>34743937
Things that never happened

>>34743296

I am always sure to point my gun at the nearest child when I am dry fire testing. They think it's a game and laugh. I laugh too. We all laugh.

>>34744202

There's a gun store off tryon road with a pistol range but I shoot outside at shearon Harris

>>34744195
It was in the case pointing at the divider next to me

>>34744218

Good ol family fun, like having Saturday night family masturbation sessions

>>34744238
I hope you mean mastication sessions.

>>34744219
>It was in the case pointing at the divider next to me
Maybe he didn't see the locks. If I were the RSO, I would have told you to turn the gun around, but I would not have kicked you out. You did a minor infraction, and he overreacted.

>>34743296
I bet when Feinstein finally gets her wish of gun confiscation, you'll get all pissy that the bureaucrats taking your guns aren't respecting the four rules.

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>>34744262
Already happened.

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bet op will say this loaded and dangerous

>>34744322
No, it's disassembled.

>>34744363
But it's still loaded, because he disassembled it loaded.

>>34744371
Even if you stuck a cartridge in the chamber after it was disassembled, it would still be unable to fire. I wouldn't even consider it a gun at that point. Just loose parts.

>>34744385
But it's a gun. You've got to treat it as its loaded at all times. Even unloaded guns are loaded.

Right?
Right?

>Exiting the firing line
>Points gun down rage autistically
>Flag other shooter
>Spagetti explodes everywhere

How do I exit the range anons?

>>34744268
Feinstein is actually obeying the four rules perfectly in that photo.

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>>34744371

Is this gun safe enough for you

>>34744385
>Just loose parts.
but you said guns are always dangerous no matter what

>>34743574
>Not an argument
Confirmed the same faggot from the last autistic as fuck clearing bucket thread

Go to hell Yankee Marshall everyone hates you.

>>34744407
except rule 3 and possibly 2 and probably 1 and realistically 4

>>34744405
Either put it in a case, or point it upward.
>>34744407
In a way, you may be right.
>>34744399
I don't think a pipe without a firing pin counts as a gun.
>>34744427
He meant that her fans deserved to be shot.

>>34744417
According to OP, no.
According to me, abso-fuckin-lutely.

>>34744438
>He meant that her fans deserved to be shot.
Thanks, I did not pick up on that.

>>34744417
>>34744457
Safe enough for what? Safe enough to look down the barrel for a bore obstruction? Yes.

>>34744438

That's not a safe direction OP bullets come down somewhere.

>>34744472
It's not safe enough for you, OP. Because it's loaded. And even if it isn't loaded, it's loaded, because Rule 1.

Right?

>>34743439
>You clear it and remove the clearly empty magazine. Is it still loaded? Fuck no, and you proved it.
People around you don't know that. That's why you treat it like a loaded gun regardless of what YOU know.
You're clearly one of those nogunz people

>>34743439
Post a pic of your guns with timestamp
I don't believe for a second you own one

>>34744488
Doctrine of competing harms. Don't put your face in front of the barrel if you don't have to, but it's still better than risking a bore obstruction.
>>34744525
Don't get those steps out of order. Drop the mag THEN cycle the action.

>>34744525
If you're on the range, then yeah. Treat them as if they're loaded.

If you're in your house? Just clear it and show them. Spread the knowledge, you fool.

>>34744423
This.

>>34744543
You treat it as loaded in privacy because it creates good habits and prevents bad ones.

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>>34744532
Best I can do right now is this. Lunch break just ended. Work is a very strict no-fun zone.

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>>34744615
>5'10"

>>34744615
Oh, a manlet.
That explains everything.

>>34744669
And I'm the tallest person in my family. It's actually hilarious.

>>34744615
lmao manlet

>>34744679
>>34744719
Say the autists with clearing buckets

>>34744791
i can toss my bucket, but you can't become a man

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the bantz

>>34743505
>>34743529

They were made up in an attempt not to make guns idiot-proof, but to make idiots gun-proof.

>>34744796
You can ditch the bucket, but you can't ditch the 'tism.

>>34744669
>>34744679
>>34744719
>>34744796
I don't believe any of you have funs. Timestamp.

>>34744878
i don't care what you believe, bud

>>34744885
Nogunz confirmed.

>>34743342

You don't.
You clean an unloaded gun.

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>>34744878
fuck you nigger

>>34744955
Nugget.

Lol. Poorfag.

>>34744976
>mad that he was wrong
stay upset manlet

>>34744986
>thinking im mad because you're a poorfag.

Keep going, buddy. At least I'm okay with short.

Also, why are you handling a loaded weapon, pointing it in an unsafe direction? Where's your clearing bucket to prevent the gun from firing itself?

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>>34745043
traded my clearing bucket for the 'tism

daily reminder that fretting about gun safety is a sign of autism

>>34745111
And apparently being the average height makes you a manlet?

>>34745140
yup

in the US having average IQ makes you an idiot, being average height makes you a manlet, being average weight makes you fat, making average income makes you poor, having average planning means you have no savings
etc

>>34743296
how about i dry fire into your skull op

>>34745111
>ND waiting to happen

>>34745190
Average IQ in the US is near 98. I wouldn't say that's idiot range. Average height I wouldn't consider manlet, but whatever. Average weight in the US is obese, yes. Average income in the US does not make you poor. Average savings hovers around zero, and in certain income brakets it's negative.

Oh the woes of averages.

>>34743439

People like cooper are why you have to have "READ MANUAL BEFORE USING" and shit on guns now. People lack common sense.

>1. Guns are loaded unless you know for sure it's not loaded.
>2. An unloaded gun can't destroy shit, but might make some nigger shit his pants if you point it at him.
>3. Or just know your tool and your body and don't pull before you need to.
>4. That's just common sense, but if the front is threatening your life, the behind is irrelevant. As fucked up as it may sound, I'd rather kill someone trying to kill me even if it wounds/kills someone behind him than end up dead.

Also, on the HK P9S, you decock the gun using the trigger. Hold decocker down and then pull trigger. That will scare inferior men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU8HyTS0F4Q

>>34743684

Exactly. And the ammo thing is important because if we need to check the cycling of a gun without firing it, we use snap caps, but wouldn't want to get them mixed up with real ammo. It's just common sense.

>but expect these autists to have any sense of humor

>>34743386
>By field stripping it
How can you strip it if it's loaded?

>>34745248
Every snapcap I've ever seen is a bright non-brass and non-steel color. How could you possibly mix then up with actual ammo?

Wait. This is the internet. I'm sure someone has.

>>34744615

>that thing would be incredibly simple to counterfeit

>>34745273

I have snapcaps for rare calibers that I've custom-made. They are made from actual brass and bullets. I know other gunsmiths that do it too. If you need a snap cap in a hurry, you'll just make it instead of spending 10-20-30 dollars to the snap cap jews to get a couple.

I even load mine with baking soda to simulate proper powder loads. Eraser for the primer to observe primer contacts.

>>34745274
I haven't heard of anyone counterfeiting a cpl, but I wouldn't be surprised. Although, why would you? If you ever need to show the permit, it'll get run through a couter system...

>>34745296

Purchases. Here in GA having the GWCL/carry license bypasses the background check. All they do is scan your DL and GWCL and put it with your 4473. No background check is done. Alabama until this year did the Virginia thing and had a piece of paper. They also do purchases that bypass the background check if there's a carry license presented.

>so in theory you could get a high quality fake ID and pair that with a fake carry license and obtain a firearm

>>34745316

Or, use a real license and have a fake carry permit if you know you aren't going to pass the background check.

>>34743296

I always dry fire pointing my gun against a pack of nogs,so if they go full ape I'm allowed to reload and drop them innaground

>>34745287
That makes sense, come to think of it.

>>34745316
Yeah, paper cards are silly, but it certainly saves the commonwealth some money. Shoot, they post a John Doe one on the virginia police website...

>>34745325
>completely needless and unoriginal racism

do you feel like you have to post like that to fit in or something?

>>34745439
Probably just a /pol/ cross poster thinking he's edgy.

>>34745439
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>34745439
>expecting more than a shitpost to respond to the shitpost OP
not a clever man

>>34745478
>being completely uncreative and talking like someones retarded uncle is acceptable behavior

>>34744072
>was the discharge caused by operator error?
ND
>was the discharge cause by an equipment malfunction or event unforeseeable by the average person?
AD

>>34743684
>I've seen people point guns at other people's faces and pull the trigger just as as joke and it's fine
I wouldn't even do this if the BCG was laying on the table.

Fucking again OP?

Your grade is now a D-

I'd give you an F but that would mean seeing you in summer school.

gtfo

>hurr durr the safety rules are useless
http://desuarchive.org/k/thread/31872229/
http://desuarchive.org/k/thread/24732107/
http://desuarchive.org/k/thread/24393117/
http://desuarchive.org/k/thread/20510440/

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>>34743296
>The first rule of gun safety is that all guns are loaded.

Fucking amateur.

>>34744615
>tfw manlet
It's ok. I know that feel too.

>>34745904
I've always been short. Nothing I can do to change that now.

Holy shit why are you dipshits wasting money on ammo when your gun is all ways loaded

>>34745233
>I've done it before with no problem, so that means it's OK
That's not how habits work. The first 9999 times you do it, nothing happens. On the 10,000th time, it finally catches up with you.
>>34745250
Remove the bolt and barrel (if applicable).
>>34745248
Nothing funny about it.

>>34746964
(You)

>>34746964
>Remove the bolt and barrel (if applicable).
But you can't on some guns without pulling the trigger first.

Every time you pick up a gun that you don't plan on shooting you clear the chamber.

If you have to ask yourself "should i clear the chamber" ask yourself if you've cleared it since you've picked it up. If the answer is either "no" or "I don't know" you clear the chamber again. it takes like 5 seconds.

When you dry fire tell yourself "i've confirmed the chamber is clear and will commence dry fire" After you are done say "I've completed dry fire and will not touch the trigger any more" Once you've reloaded the gun put it in the holster and don't mess with it.

Do these things and you don't need a faggy clearing bucket or to always point the gun in a safe direction.

>>34743750
>The whole room would have to made out of clearing buckets.

I've seen actual gunsmiths with actual, professionally-manufactured bullet traps on their work benches.

It's not because they're fucktarded, it's not because they want to have to *use* the bullet trap, it's because even the most intelligent professionals sometimes make mistakes, and if you work with guns all day as a career, eventually chance is going to catch up to you.

Look at it this way -- either the bullet trap / bucket never receives a bullet (good outcome), or one day you slip up and you shoot a round while "dry-firing" into the bucket (good outcome).

There's regularly posts here about people who accidentally fire their glocks while taking them down -- *intelligent and talented people do indeed make mistakes*, and if you aren't willing to pay $10 for a bucket and some dry sand (so you don't have to trace the path of the bullet to see if it went through a wall or three and killed someone), you are negligent, do not deserve to own guns, and nobody should want to be your neighbour.

The only exception is if you own land and can just go outside and aim your gun at the fucking ground while fussing with it. In that case, the dirt is your bullet trap.

>>34749487
Honest question: would you be willing to pull the trigger to dry-fire (or take down your Glock) while it is aimed at your own head?