Are the Canadian Forces underfunded? Only 1% of the GDP is being

>>34736047
It's not like anyone's going to invade them anytime soon. If they don't make their military too large it can be as well equipped as any other, and they don't need a big one when it's exclusively for sending to 3rd world shit holes.

>>34736070
This
No one s going to dare to attack America's hat

They aren't underfunded. They are however, relative to the size of the land mass they are tasked with holding, undersized.

>>34736047
Of fucking course they are underfunded. I'm amazed at what CF soldiers accomplish given how little money they get

>>34736146
They are pretty nutty
The Army is the gov'ts golden boy though, rcaf gets no love and the navy is like that girl who wants fancy shit every few years

>>34736146
It's no wonder we have the best snipers in the world, each is only given one bullet.

>>34736177
I was under the impression we didn't even have our own naval supply vessels; so we rely on renting other countries' ships.

Who the fuck is going to invade canada? Canada is the ultimate cuck nation, they just do whatever the US does. If anything they should be spending less.

>>34736397
Lmao. Canada doesn't just blow up mudslimes, we actually do humanitarian missions and train foreign armies that the US isn't atm. Just because our Prime minister wants his wife to be hog tied and fucked by a BBC doesn't mean the rest of the country wants that BUDDY.

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>>34736397

As the Arctic defrosts and everyone goes snuffling around for the last dregs of oil we have left, Canada's suddenly found itself straddling a lot of interesting borders.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/2016/05/23/canadian-military-looks-to-expand-arctic-footprint/

>>34736397
see >>34736414 and >>34736423
But mostly I just want to be proud of my military and have more cool shit

>>34736047
You fucking twats are so lucky. We are the biggest deterrent to armed conflict and you're surrounded by oceans with only one border nation that has no interest in taking you over.

To thank us for this wonderful global position of power, you are the cuntiest most insufferable degenerate niggers the west can produce.

>>34736790
Sorry.

>>34736047
Every armed force in NATO besides the US and a couple others are underfunded.

1% if pretty normal for everyone but America.

>>34736886
Not sustainable.

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>>34736984
It is when you rely on big brother burger to take care of you.

>>34736047
Canadian forces are entirely superfluous

It depends what Canada wants to do. If they want to let their armed forces atrophy, that's up to the Canadians. The issue is that if they expect to be able to keep the forces they have with that budget they are shit out of luck. They have pushed back major procurement in every branch for decades now to cut spending, so unless they increase spending to replace what's falling apart, they are going to be left with a just a bunch of infantry and a handful of planes and boats.

>>34736886
>>34736984

This nearly every member of NATO gets its military payed for and maintained by US dollars.

>>34736047
I wish I was in Canada. I recently started talking to a girl from there who can swallow air and pretty much fart on command. we both have fart fetishes, and I think it's love. Fuck Canada for being so far from florida.

>>34736397
Hi, /pol/.

>>34736047
what do they defend? the tranny degenerate way of life?

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>>34736858

>>34736047
Canada's Navy is a fucking joke for the amount of shoreline that needs to be patrolled & defended.

>>34737227
The only non-joke branch is Army. Do we even have working submarines?

Anyone know where you can get a C7A2 stock?

I want to make my 20 inch rifle a C7 clone and this is what I've got

https://www.tonyscustomsllc.com/product/a-2-standard-ar-15-handguard-green/

https://www.tonyscustomsllc.com/product/ar-15-a-2-pistol-grip-green/

https://www.tonyscustomsllc.com/product/c-a-r-stock-green/

But the stock doesn't have that pad.

>>34736047
They're planning to bump up to ~1.5% by 2025. Which is better but still pretty bad. The navy has completely shit the bed due to neglect and most of the army's tanks are outdated.

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>>34736858

It's ok, we're cool. You gave us pic related and Garands.

>>34737266
There are clip-on buttpads available

https://mcmillanusa.com/product/car-rubber-butt-pad/

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/658012/promag-recoil-pad-slip-over-ar-15-carbine-4-position-stock-us-stamped-rubber-black

Not sure which one is more accurate to the gun, though

>>34736397
whenever someone says something mean to me i go to the doctor's and get my feelings checked for free

>>34736102
Kek

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Is this a good gun? It's the only one I've shot.

I think we are severely under funded in the navy. We have so many shorelines to defend, especially up north, and we have 0 competitive subs. We couldn't keep a single foreign vessel out of out waters if we had to.

Our army is used as a huge publicity show, so they dont need much funding.

Our airforce has shit aircrafts, we should have a small fleet of current gen aircrafts, but those definately not as important as the oceanic vessels.

Like others have said, U.S. has the ground already covered for us, plus our real battle grounds lay in the arctic, so ground forces aren't as necessary as the subs/boats and sub/boat defences.

So when is America going to annex Canada?
It's not like they could stop us.

>>34738216
About as good as an M16 can get. Diemaco makes great rifles.

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>>34737070

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>>34736858

>>34737278
Won't happen. Another Defence Review will be launched and procurement will be pushed back another decade.

>>34739524
They are never going to get new ships and submarines are they?

>>34739554
New ships? Maybe.

New, even functional used subs? No.

>>34737070
this is what love looks like, I wish you the best of luck with your distant sweetheart and weird fetish

Canada demographically is shifting into a Chinese colony at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next thirty years the PRC just annexes it.

>>34738216
I don't get it... Why have a fixed front sight post when every rifle is issued with an optic with no backup sight?

>>34737070
Of course it's Florida.

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>>34740144
It's going to sound weird but they're issued with a buis that typically mounts in front of the elcan optic. Like pic related. The buis is usually removed or lost over time.

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>>34740144
>>34740218
Like so.

>>34736047
former NDHQ officer here, yes but we waste most of our budget on useless BS, and our procurement system is an abortion, so until DND is overhauled don't waste the tax dollars

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>>34736479
This. I'm big into naval warfare and it's a shame how our navy doesn't get much cool shit, get some new subs and proper destroyers and I'll be happy with them. Air Force needs better and more planes, F-35 if they turn out to not be shit or anything else that get's the job done but we should definitely have more than what we have, considering how large and important our air space is and the russkies. Army get's the most attention from our MOD, despite being the least important in terms of our geopolitical situation(that is unless you consider blowing up muslims in 3rd world shit hole important), but I would still like to see them get some Apache's or some shit, I mean come on it's 2017 and we have not CAS helicopters.

I am proud of our military, small though it may be, and our Minister of Defense is a based sikh so I can thank Turdeau for that at least. Also, hasn't he announced that we are upping our spending to 2% or am I thinking of a different country?

>>34736047
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Holy shit YES.

But as the serving members that I know tell me, it's not so much the constantly shrunk funding can being kicked down the road.. but the pants on head retarded MoD & MoPW (Public Works) that like the city of Toronto can't do a decent job to save their lives.
Cost estimates way out in left field.
Equipment purchasing botched often (somewhat the fault of politics constantly switching products every election).
Weird standards that some civilian in MoPW implements that conflicts with NATO standardization attempts (often in the electronics area, such as hiring Huawei to redo the government electronic infrastructure.. Huawei, a Chinese company that works hand in hand with Chinese intelligence services).

That sub-1% GDP military budget can be immensely better spent on the military.

>>34736384
We used to.

But just like with our Air Defence Destroyers, no replacement was built/ready for their retirement.
The SCS project is supposed to fix that, and two new supply ships are under construction (one is nearly done).

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>>34740351
>Weird standards that some civilian in MoPW implements that conflicts with NATO standardization attempts (often in the electronics area, such as hiring Huawei to redo the government electronic infrastructure.. Huawei, a Chinese company that works hand in hand with Chinese intelligence services).
Who thought this was a good idea?
Tell me someone who actually knew what they were doing slapped this shit down.

>>34736397
I'm not sure you understand what the word cuck or cuckold means. You should probably stop using it.

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>>34737238
>>34738324
>>34739554
>>34739606
All 4 subs are in working condition (as of now).. however none are deployed at the moment, crews are getting retrained after the last one out hit a rock while submerged.

>>34740405
His type have an extremely limited vocabulary, and will die if they go 10 minutes without saying "cuck." Don't bother reasoning, you'll just get a picture of Mr Noseberg.

It's not the Cold War anymore and under Trump Canada and the US have different priorities. Canada wants to advance globalism, fight global warming, and defend refugees. US wants to enforce security interests and roll back progressive agendas worldwide.

Nearly everything Trump says and does gets an immediate rebuke from Trudeau like clockwork. Ban muslim migrants? Canada will take in more. Spend less on global warming?
Canada will spend more. Ban trannys from military? Canada will recruit more trannys for its military. The two are not really allies atm even though all the security cooperation still exists and militarily the two are intertwined. This fact could be used to justify increasing $$$ for the Canadian military

>>34740315
We don't need destroyers, we need new frigates. The CPF is a pretty capable when it comes to offensive capacity, but the hulls are getting too old. The CAF will always be underfunded for the task it has, especially the Navy. A fleet of patrol frigates and patrol subs are the only way to fulfill the force requirement.
t. navybro

>>34740382
>slapped down
No, it went ahead, with PM Stephen Harper's blessing.
To say the least they (CSIS and the Signals lads) are searching for every would be backdoor / leak in the system that they know has to be in there somewhere.

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>>34738216
>Be Israeli kike anon
>Serving in Gaza strip hellhole in 2003
>Come under fire
>The hamas fighters drop their weapons and run away as soon as they start getting encircled
>See these guns laying where they were

To this day i don't know why they had them. Our commanders told us not to bring it up because Canada's government is friendly.

>>34740415
lol BS Of the 2 MARPAC subs, 1 is in dry dock while the other is awaiting dry dock because someone hit it with an Orca.

>>34740493
Isn't it the CF's plan to expand to greatly increase the number of members it has? What are all these guys supposed to do if they no ships to board and no aircraft to fix? Our country can't think long term.

>>34740523
>Fight fires
>>34740515
Well shit, stuffs changed again since I last checked (which was 12+ months ago).

>>34740498
Jesus christ, as much as I wanted Harper to stay because muh guns, he really was an unironic chink sellout, wasn't he?
Trudeau is the same though.
>>34740523
Dugout canoes probably.

>>34740523
The RCN only has like 14k members. The recruiting drive for the CAF isn't to expand, it's an attempt to combat attrition.

>>34740415
why do you lie?

>>34740504
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Colonel Mohammed Abin Mohamed in CFB Bowden smuggled them.

Should I ask to work on F-18's, Hercs, Auroras, or Griffons? What would be more interesting and get me more time being useful overseas?

>>34740504
Canada sent a lot of aid to the Palestinian Authority (Fatah) back in the day and a ton of that ends up in terrorist hands, probably what happened

US is listed as one of the top funders of hamas simply because aid to the Palestinians ends up getting used by them for weapons

>>34736414
>Canada doesn't just blow up mudslimes
Get off your assess and get to work then

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>>34740655
Hercs or C-17s

>>34736047
I thought Trump kicked our government's ass into gear and they were upping it 70%
Those gloves are utter shit btw.

>>34740655
Definitely the Hercules.
More of them + rough airstrip capabilities means they're deployed more often globally.

>>34738652
Thing is Canada has a large number of rifles in private hands.

And its not a desert shithole, lots of places to hide. Insurgents dream.

>>34740431
Seriously. Sick and tired of coming on here and seeing all this transphobia. I have a trans gf. What would I say to her if she looked over and saw all of these hateful comments?

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>>34736047
>not putting the radio in a smallpack

>>34739670
Thank you