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previous thread >>34693692

>zasta plz finish your SG-43 so I can use your trigger design and get mine welded up

everything from building firearms to small jobs

pastebin here. Anyone who wants to add anything let me know (I now have edit access to the pastebin, thanks anon): https://pastebin.com/xCTc1NwM

Lets see your projects!
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Does anybody have experience with the DSA hand guards? These don't quite fit right on this IMBEL barrel, a little time with the dremel should make things okay, but I'm just curious.
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>>34727446
Correction: they don't quite fit right with the gas block/barrel.
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Do you own a deadblow flandre?
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>>34727446
>>34727459
dremel my dude
>>34727476
i should probably get one.
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I'm trying to conceive of a design for a gravity fed hopper for a 22LR. Trying to work around rimlock and get good vertical stacking hurts my brain.
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>>34727550
Is there any way to unfuck DSA FAL mags? they're a bitch to seat.

Also, you kept mentioning "dave" in reference to AK receivers, who is this "dave" person? I've got a russian kit coming in soon and will need to pick up a barrel and receiver for it.

>34719577
I know, I'm just wondering in case he sells out before I get around to ordering a kit.
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>>34727816
Dave is the only person who makes perfect AK receivers.
http://74ullc.com/

and don't even bother with DSA mags, they aren't worth the hassle.
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What can a do to make sure this doesn't get any worse
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>>34728091
Dumb ass forgot pic
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>>34728105
put some lacquer over it
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>>34728070
thanks

>>34728105
JB weld
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>>34727550
hey flandre would fixing an Iver Johnson be in your wheelhouse?
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>doing my once a month perusing of the used gun inventories for gun shops within 20 miles of me
>see a Stevens 887 for 60 burgers

gonna nab it

can't have enough clackers
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>>34728165
no problem
>>34728105
honestly some guerilla glue to keep it down and wood filler to fill in the crack would work, then sand and re-finish.
>>34728165
no prob
>>34728277
haven't really messed around with them, but they're pretty standard although I don't do gunsmithing as a profession anymore.
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>>34727446
Did you build that fal? If so im looking to build one since I live in a ban state.
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>>34728801
I ask because I've fucked around with one before and almost got it to work, but they have no sideplates and everything is held in place with pins and it's a giant pain in the ass to work on
wondered if you had any tips

also I have a .22 topbreak that needs it's cylinder unfucked and its barrel relined
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>>34728834
I did, not much building so much as making sure things fit and then assembling. If FALs are banned by name in your state then I'm not sure if you'd be able to buy a receiver if you can't buy the complete rifle.
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>>34727476
>FN sticker
gross
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>>34729641
what are you some kind of fag?
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>>34728358

Yea, I'm guilty of doing that too. If it's under $100, as long as it isn't a complete piece of shit, it usually comes home with me. I've literally got an ammo can full of cheap ass pistols. Hoarding is a real problem.
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>tfw can't find my Bryco 59 stripped frame

I have a parts kit and I have plans to cut the frame down and make a Saturday Night Special version of the ASP but I moved several months ago and I can't find my fucking Bryco frame.
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So I'm just breaking into building kits and had a welding question. I plan to MIG weld but what type wire do you guys generally use? E70s2? I have 42300 just around from other projects, but its for mild steel. Would that be enough?
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>>34730201
I think most people just use .30 with sheilded 75/25 argon/oxegen gas
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>>34730404
I typically just use flux around my ranch just cause of simplicity. Is that acceptable or should I buy the conversion and use a shielding gas?
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>>34730525
Nooo
do not use flux

Ideally get Tig, but if you must use MIG, get a good shielded gas welder.
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>>34730583
I just have to buy a conversion kit is all and some gas. I'm not against it just used to flux since I weld outside mostly. Thanks for the advice
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>>34730620
>>34730583
been thinking of buying a tig welder for hobby shit around the house. Any brands you recommend? I was thinking of everlast or hobart
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Can you rebore a pitted bore? Have a mil-surp and the barrel has pitting. I want to get it a new barrel but no one makes any that I can trust. Should I just buy a blank barrel and have it fitted to my ishapore 2a1?
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>>34731511
just get an original barrel off ebay or gunbroker if youre that worried. ins probably not worth the effort desu.
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>>34731448

i would suggest ahp as a minimum. i know several people who use the alpha tig 200 as a light duty work welder, and haven't complained about it.

and prices just go up from there.

http://www.ahpwelds.com/welders/tig-welders/2016-ahp-alphatig-200dx-200-amp-igbt-ac-dc-tig-stick-welder-with-pulse-110v-200v.html

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/equipment/Pages/product.aspx?product=K5126-1%28LincolnElectric%29
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>>34731448
>>34731775

one more thing, no matter what tig welder you get, get lens cups for it, will make your life way easier.
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>>34727395
Purchased S&W Model 59 for $160
Pretty beat up (pic related)

Going to polish and blue the slide but I don't know what to do with the frame, ideally I'd sabd the dings out and re-anodize it but that shit is outside my wheelhouse, can you go over old anodizing? I don't think stripping the anodizing is a smart move, it's structurally required and I don't think I can do as hard a coat at home.

Not really keen on duracoat because it would look nothing like the origonal finish.
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>>34731827
Other side.

I really want to restore it, just for kicks and because I think the 59 is a criminally underrated 9mm
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>>34731827
>>34731831
Even for $160, that thing looks like a complete turd. It looks like the factory finish is some kind of paint over anodizing, so honestly I'd just smooth it out, polish, and go for Duracoat or whatever.
That slide is also looks lie it's too pitted to really polish it out. You're probably better off also going for a Duracoat-type finish on it, to hide the pitting.
You probably really want to strip it down completely and inspect -EVERYTHING- for wear and damage, replace all springs.

S&W semis are underrated for mostly good reasons. They range anywhere from being the most boring, unremarkable mash-up of existing designs, to being shitty executions of dated designs.
Considering the design heritage of the gun includes the BHP, you could be forgiven for expecting a lot more from them than S&W delivered.
Honestly, you could make all the same criticisms of the M&P pistols nowadays too. S&W has always been too little, too late on the semi-auto scene.

Either way, looks like a fun home gunsmithing project.
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>>34731831
>>34731827
Can you even refinish an aluminum frame without spray on finishes? I thought the anodizing was part of the final dimensions of the part.
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>>34731885
>Duracote
>Duracote
>Uninformed ignorant opinion on the S&W legacy series

Fuck off Nutfuddcy, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>34731886
Yeah, that's why I'm hesitant to strip it

>>34731885
The pitting us a lot shallower than any markings on the slide, it should polish out fine, if not it will just look frosted.
The action was smooth as can be, otherwise I would have passed it up, and I didn't want Hamal to get his hands on it.

It's just to go with my Marlin Camp 9 anyway since they share mags. I want to have some fun dressing her up.
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>>34731885
>S&W semis are underrated for mostly good reasons.
Just buy a Glock bro! Fucking Perfection(TM) bro!
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>>34731886
Your options are pretty much limited to stripping and re-doing the anodizing (which will effect your tolerances), a spray-on finish, or stripping the anodizing and going for an electroplating of your choice.
Home anodizing is hard and takes a good amount of supplies and equipment, so I don't recommend it unless you really want to learn how to do it.
You can pretty much electroplate Aluminum with whatever your heart desires, but first you have to zincate it, which is again, no small feat for a hobbyist.
>>34731896
I carried a 5906 for close to 15 years - at least when I was out on the streets, anyway. I was not, am not, and will never be a fan of the design. Considering that most of the design amounts to plagarism, S&W really did a poor job of it.
Nothing wrong with Dura, Cera, or any other similar -coat product either. They do that they're supposed to, cheaply and easily.
>>34731907
I'd be surprised if the action wasn't smooth, it looks like it was probably broken in by several thousand rounds and a career's worth of carrying. If you think you can get a decent polish on it, go for it. You don't have much to lose besides your time.
Rather than going for a high gloss polish, you might be better served with a matte bead-blasted finish, and a hot blue over it.
>>34731924
No, thanks. It was a revolutionary design, but it's not for me either.
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>>34731941
Any you carry a?
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>>34731977
Nowadays, a 642 J-Frame, though you'd be stupid to compare a full size service gun on the same standards as an off-duty CCW.
If you mean to ask what I would have preferred to have carried instead of a 5906, the first thing that comes to mind is a P226.
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>>34732023
>S&W 5906 is such shit
>Carries a SIG p226
Thank god for universal constants like cops and soldiers talking out their ass about guns.
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>>34731941
Christ how old are you? Why are you here.
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>>34730201
If you weld on a gun you really should be using tig. T b h a tig rig costs the same as halfway decent mig machine so you might as well do it right. Some people get by with mig but it's really not ideal and if you are working on historical or investment grade weapons it's really extra not ideal
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>>34731775
>>34731791
danke, The AHP looks like the better choice for what I have in mind.
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Bout to start milling out this receiver stub if I can find a 1/4" carbide mill
Any ideas on a good ballpark RPM-wise? I'm sure it's tough, heat-treated steel, and I know the trunnion was spot-welded+brazed but I don't know if that will take any special consideration
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>>34734244
why do you need to mill it?
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>>34734258
Need both trunnions on the new receiver, from what I've seen drilling the spot welds out won't help anyways because of the brazing
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>>34731511

I have an Ishapore 2A1 barrel. Very nice bore. It'll be on eBay soon (this week). Has a receiver stub from where I cut it off. Still has sights attached and everything.

>inb4 why you ruin a good gun bubba

Sadly, I had bought the gun a long time ago at an estate sale and when I took it apart for cleaning, there was a crack in the receiver. Might not have been a problem but I'd rather be safe than sorry and I didn't pay much for the gun. Was going to use the barrel for a conversion but never did and recently found the barreled action. Cut pretty easily, likely due to "top grade Indian metallurgy"
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>>34731907

If you want a pocket gun that shares mags, get you a Kel-Tec P11. 100% interchangeable with S&W 59 series mags.

>that's why you can also get a Sub2K with 59 mags. Kellgren is a genius.
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>>34734281
can you drill out the spot welds and heat up the brazing so it comes loose?

if not just use a cut off wheel and take it off that way.
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>>34732865
Where can I get a good Tig that's good for welding guns up for $400? I bought my Hobart welder for that much some years ago for that price and those are considered high quality mig welders
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>>34734244
What is this?
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>>34734395
I really don't know about the heat, but what I do know is that in order to drill out the spot welds I'd have to cut apart the pin sleeve on the bottom as there are spot welds under it, and I really don't want to fuck up the heat-treat on this thing.
I don't see how I could actually get the sheet metal out with a cutoff wheel without fucking up the trunnion

>>34734977
Stgw. 57 parts
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>>34727395
How to you convert open-bolt designs into closed-bolt?
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>>34735204
>through-drill out firing pin
>add striker or hammer setup
>add denial bar
>remove material on bolt for denial bar

easier said than done.

t. slugging though a SA26 build
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Would a kit like http://www.gunbroker.com/item/674959699 be viable as a project (AKA not missing key components)? Yes, I am aware that all doggo murdering squad regulations must be followed, such as having all the paperwork done BEFORE obtaining the kit, converting it to a closed bolt, etc.
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>>34735801
>paperwork
you don't need paperwork for making a sim auto kit gun. For that pps43, you'd need an intact trunnion as well. Plus, the bolt is a pain, since if you just keep the firing pin hole the same diameter as the removable fixed firing pin, you'll get blown primers. so you'll need to somehow reduce the diameter of the hole left over. most people thread in a piece of metal and then drill it.
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>>34735921

Are you sure? I could have sworn assembling it would count as a SBR.
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>>34736050
If you use a sub-16 inch barrel, yeah.
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>>34736064
>16" barrel
>on a pps-43

how about no
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>>34736153
if you extend the shroud it isn't that bad....
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>>34728904
Dude, I need to know the story behind that because it has to be awful special
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>>34732282
>Stop liking what I don't like!
I shoot better with a 226 than a 5906, and it's lighter on the belt too.
The best thing I can say about the Smith autos is that they finally displaced revolvers as duty guns across the country, but even that was before my years.
There's a reason the 39s and 59s have gone extinct while the 226, CZ75, Beretta 92, and about a dozen other designs from that era have endured.
>>34732751
Shitposting reminds me of locker room banter, just with less dicks etched into the walls. /k/ is also full of insightful information you'll never get from a magazine or a stiff at the range. Interesting place.
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>>34734244
1500rpm with light cuts. If it sounds like shit slow it down or take ligther cuts. You should be able to do .010"
Do not use coolant, or oil
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>>34736236
>Stop liking what I don't like!
That's kind of your argument.

The 59 is just as light as the 226, just as reliable, just as accurate, and the only negatives are slide safety and small mag release. The 5906 is a softer shooting tougher gun as well.

The guns died out because they basically lived on LEI contracts, when the Glock stole that by being cheap as shit they died.
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>>34737295
The third gen in particular had issues with the grips cracking and causing the mainspring to lose tension, which resulted in a recall.
Across the board, the extractors ranged from fragile to unreliable, and had to be hand fit to each gun. On mine in particular, I had significant FTE issues when I first got it, and when my armorer looked at it, he discovered that the extractor groove hadn't been machined properly, so I ended up with a loaner gun for a month until they replaced the whole slide.
I also had to have the extractor replaced once after a complete failure during training.
I can't attest to the durability of the earlier models, but I've heard mostly of extractor issues on them too.
Speaking of Safeties, the later Smith autos incorporated a firing pin safety similar to the Series 80 1911, with the trigger actuating a lever to disengage the block - this only made the already mediocre trigger even worse, though if I'm not mistaken, that's not an issue on the 59.
It's also completely beyond me how Smith managed to design a DA without a second strike capability.
Ask any police armorer in a department that still has old Smith autos knocking about, and you'll probably hear no end of the moaning.
The design is okay, nothing more and nothing less. It did nothing revolutionary and amazing, but it wasn't bad either. With more refinement, Smith could have made them great, but they never wanted to.
Many other guns live on LE contracts, and I think it's prudent to remind you that many of them are expensive and don't compete on price, but on quality. Glock took the market by storm and pulled the rug out from under Smith, but high dollar Sigs and HKs are not rare sights in holsters nowadays either, for prices which are as high as, or higher than Smith ever asked. Last I heard the last department still buying 5946s, NYPD, was paying about $700 per unit for them - though it looks like they recently stopped issuing them and sold off their remaining stock
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>>34736178
that's like 5" of extra shroud, i'd rather build one as a pistol and look correct than some ugly abomination.
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>>34737850
Thats the same with the ppsh41's, I want to build one but it would be a fucking abortion with a 16" barrell
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>>34736153

I had one of the Pioneer Carbines with 16" barrel in 9mm. Not as bad as you think, but it does look a little wonky. Fun to shoot though.

>unrelated to that: no more storing gun batteries out in my workshop/shed. Amazing nothing caught on fire and burnt the motherfucker down because there were over a dozen other batteries beside it.
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>>34738472
I'm obsessed with authenticity. Things that look off trigger me.

just an example but the c96

I can't stand the bolo models. That short barrel triggers my autism
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>>34738497

>tfw I'm /k/'s resident bubba and such things don't concern me.

If anything, I want to find a cheap shit-tier C96 and cut it down to snub-nose and do a FitzGerald Special to it. Maybe convert to Glock mags while I'm at it.
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>>34738535
if it's just run of the mill shitty AKs, who cares but some things just need to be original
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>>34736181
.22 iver Johnson was a gift from a now dead neighbor, cool old dude who taught me adult things my dad didn't because he worked all the time
/story
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>>34740667
rip
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Anyone anon here dick with 80% lowers for ars, 1911/2011 and the new 228 lowers?
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>>34741828
80% lowers are stupid easy with a mill and correct endmill size.
>like to make low shelf lowers
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I'm just going to have to bump this thread, aren't I?
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>>34742957
Thanks, I truly appreciate it.
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>>34742957
Yeah nights/early mornings are bad for slow threads / generals. They tend to die if not mantained
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>>34734927
Plz help I want a good Tig welder I can re-weld milled receivers with plz halp
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>>34743451
AHP AlphaTIG 200X
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>>34743451
Well the first thing you should do is put together a tig rig, which consists of your leads, torch, and regulator. Should cost around 100$ you will still need a bottle of argon to hook up to and then you can use pretty much any stick welding machine
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>>34743669
So like 75/25 argon oxygen?
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>>34743510
Nigger that's 1000 not 400
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>>34735182
Im friends with the guy who came up with the receiver section for these
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>>34743510
Nah they suck bought one and the hf didnt work on it, the replacement they sent didnt work either i just ended up getting a Lincoln and im more than happy with it
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Why do all the guys on weaponeer and weapons guild use MIG if TIG is better!!??
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>>34744739
Because the equipment is generally cheaper and mig welding is pretty easy to learn whereas tig takes a while to become proficient, especially when doing welds on a firearm
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>>34736364
Alight, making some progress like that. Things I've noted
1. My passes might actually be too light, they're pretty much "As soon as I hear the bit contact the metal"-light
2. It's hot as fuck, and impossible to keep my glasses free of sweat because of my long damn eyelashes
3. I need to do a better job centering my workpiece, though both the vice being off and the general wear on the ways could play a factor.

>>34744581
I ordered this stuff like a year ago, I remember getting him to answer his damn phone being very difficult. And he didn't have any 7.5 Swiss barrels so I settled for .308 and the (hopefully) straight-forward modification
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>>34745254
Get goggles instead of glasses, pretty boy.
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>>34727395

>SG-43

My LGS just got in a Greg Clark on consignment. Guy is wanting $6k for it. It's pretty goddamned nice but $6k is a lot of fucking dosh for a toy.

Has the larger bipod with wheels. Not that one in your picture, but taller. Greg did a great job on it, but damn, six fucking thousand dollars is getting into C&R MG territory.
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So this happened, that bird nest though

>>34745366
Prescription glasses fagballs
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>>34728105
>>34728091
Fix it with an acraglass kit from brownells.

>>34731511
You can have the barrel re-lined but getting a blank and having it chambered and threaded would probably be a better (also more expensive) option.

>>34731886
There is a way to anodize aluminum at home, but I'm not really sure how it works. Cerakote would be your best option tbqh. Also Birchwood Casey makes some kind of cold blue shit for aluminum but I'm assuming it's garbage.
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>>34745556
Put parallel bars under that thing next time.
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>>34745740
Noted

Making some progress though
Being that I'm pretty unfamiliar with manual mills, would I be better off doing small passes along each edge basically until I reach the depth I need, or slowly mill through the piece until I reach my desired depth, then work my way around the part?

Need to get a proper size for those corners anyways and a longer bit in general
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>>34745556
nigger you better not be milling with an endmill in a 3 jaw Jacobs chuck
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>>34745972
I take it that's real bad?
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>>34745997
Yes, it's bad. Do you not have collets?
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>>34733879
Make sure it can do AC if you intend to weld aluminum. DC power won't cut it.
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>>34746020
I have a lot of collets and little experience
I'll go put this in a collet before milling any more
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>>34745997
yeah, its really fucking bad
I guess next you'll be telling me that you cut without the spindle locked, or climbmill without a ballscrew upgraded
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>>34744519
Go 100% argon. You will get a better arc.
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>>34745254
Yea i know, i give him shit constantly about it, did you try calling bowman about the barrels he might have some stashed
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>>34746020
Hot damn, collet vs. chuck was like night and day, everything ran a hell of a lot smoother and with almost no chatter
Soon.jpg

>>34746146
Yes, and he didn't have any. Not too bummed about using .308 since apparently the only real modification aside from the barrel is bending the tensioner on the bolt
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>>34745997
>>34746040

Jesus Christ, if that thing snaps from the forces on the chuck then that'll be one hell of a projectile.

>>34746331
You need parallels, and to clamp down the part MUCH harder so it don't fuck you or anything else up
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>>34746331
What the fuck are you doing with that much horsepower but not a clue of how to use it, you need the Good Book in your life
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>>34746331
For real nigga, I'm glad you're learning and taking an interest in machining but you should really learn the basics. Read up, watch some youtube or something man. I've seen inexperienced people blow up endmills and it spits shrapnel like a fucking hand grenade going off. How do you have access to a milling machine anyway. Fuckin things are expensive.
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>>34745387
there's only one SG-43 mount, it can be configured into different configs, but it's the same thing dude
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>>34744875
But I mean it seems everyone does MIG
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>>34747151
Everyone migs because anyone can learn to do it in a short amount of time and it is usually good enough for most applications. On a thick, Slavic, MG reciever it might work well enough but it is definitely not ideal and won't last nearly as long as a properly tig welded reciever. it's kinda like screws vs rivets on an AK. They both work, but one way is the right way.
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>>34747457
so if I migged up a receiver, then down the road passed a tig stick over it, it'll make it strong?
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>>34747148

Well neat then, cause it was about four foot high. I'd love to have one pointing out the living room window for driveway suppression purposes but $6k is just too much
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>>34747496
yeah that's the same mount. They can be configured to stand up like this.
Just buy a kit here and weld one up yourself. You can repair the drilled barrels with weld.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/machine-guns/light-machine-guns/sg43-goryunov/scoped-goryunov-sg43-parts-kit-w-mount-cut-rcvr-demil-bbl-7-62x54r-good.html
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>>34747541
or if you don't want the night rail
https://www.apexgunparts.com/machine-guns/light-machine-guns/sg43-goryunov/goryunov-sg43-parts-kit-w-mount-cut-rcvr-demil-bbl-7-62x54r-good.html
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>>34747541

No, wasn't like that. Pic related is my very crude drawing.

Next time I'm in there I'll take a few photos and post them in /gg/ because I know that bitch ain't selling in a few days.
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Hey gsg, just wondering, what is the bare minimum tools id need to put together a sten kit in my apartment? Is it possible?
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>>34747799
>welder
>punches and pliers
>hammer
>files
>drill or drill press

so yes, if you can manage to do everything but welding it up you might can weld it in the kitchen or outside if the other tenants don't bust your balls about it.
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>>34747483
>tig stick

First research about the different welding processes

Anyway to do a reciever properly you need to tig it for a few different reasons.
With mig you are limited with the wire you can get, but with tig you can select a filler wire that matches the receivers metal much more closely, so across the reciever it's all the same kind of steel.

The second problem is mig creates stress within the steel because the weld heats up and cools too quickly which makes it weaker than the surrounding metal. So anywhere you welded two pieces together is a potential fracturing point. A properly tig'd joint is as solid as the surrounding metal and will never fail or fracture.

The third reason is tig allows for infinitely more control over the welds. This is also why most people just do mig, because you don't have to practice and build up the coordination to a able to control the size, edges, depth, speed, etc. etc. of your puddle all at once. With mig you are literally just squirting metal into the joint, no matter how good your machine is and how clean the metal is, it's just more prone to creating inconsistencies in the metal.

Anyway im probably being autistic about my explanations but to be a good welder you kind of have to be autistic.
To recap, Most people just do mig because for the average person or home builder it's way more convenient and easy compared to a more specialized process like tig, but it's bordering on nigger-rigged and to do it right you should either start practicing tig, or pay someone like me me to weld it for you.
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>>34747575
plz do, doesn't sound like an SG mount, could be something different they just put the SG onto
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So how will you deal with 922 with stgw 57? as far as i know there are no usa sources for parts for it
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>>34748315
he probably won't worry about it. 922r is a law that is nigh unenforceable for home builders.

unless someone is so hellbent on catching you doing something wrong then you would more than likely be caught for something else.

922r has never been enforced because all you have to do is say you made the parts yourself and they can't prove you wrong.
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>>34748360
fair enough. this is what scares me away from ak and fal builds. us parts are shit.
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>>34748315
literally no one except for turbo autists and companies adhere to 922r.

Not even the ATF bothers with it unless a company selling commercial products violates it

The reason is because the purpose 922r serves is curbing the importation of "assault weapons" by increasing their price putting a limit on the number of importable parts allowed on one as it is part of the 1989 import ban.

There hasn't been a case of an individual convicted of 922r violations. there was a case where someone was charged, (he had un registered machine guns) but never convicted of the 922r charges.

If the ATF really wanted to enforce it, every bubba who puts a TAPCO stock on their SKS is technically violating 922r, but the ATF is never going to go after every person with a TAPCO stock on their goddamn chink SKS
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>>34748430
>>34748430
I have never used US parts. I don't use the auto sears, but no need to not use perfectly good parts because of a draconian law.
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>>34748467
this honestly. just cut the tails off the disconnectors and cut a slot on the saftey for easy install and you're good
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>>34748465

922R is also a "fall back" if they really want to get a dealer with something. Also innocent until proven guilty, and government isn't going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars (probably) to do the tests required to say there were enough parts not made here instead of there.

I mean shit, look at the influx of AR parts from China and Korea. How many entry-tier lower kits aren't even comprised of US parts? Parts like buttstocks and handguards made in China, etc.

I've even known a dealer who would always swap out the fixed magazine with a duckbill because he had several boxes of NIB Cobray Duckbills he got for free. Why he said?

>customers pay more because they see a larger mag
>I can sell the factory mag box for a good chunk of change
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Now /gg/, I like to fill my days, meaning I am early to rise, and late to bed. This is good, because I am able to bump these threads while many of you sleep. So here it is, an evening Bump! And if this threads survives through the night, I will give it a morning bump as I wake up at 5:30 sharp!

Also tomorrow I will be showcasing some of my paper mache firearm accessories. Pic related, one of my works
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>>34749451
thank you based anon, savior of /gg/ threads
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You guys think I could rechamber a Flobert from .32 RF to .32 SW short or even .32 long?
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>>34749544

Yes. People used to do it all the time back in the day. Was quite common to take .32 RF rifles (floberts, rolling blocks, etc) and convert them to centerfire and resell prior to the GCA in 68. My grandfather used to do it before he went to Vietnam. His dad taught him machine stuff.

Basically get a load of old obsolete .32 rimfire rifles, convert them to .32 S&W, and sell them at flea markets and farmer's markets. Great rabbit and squirrel guns.
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>>34749563
I've got two guns I want to rechamber. Both are .32 RF. Ones a Flobert obviously and the other is a Hopkins and Allen youth falling block I'm either going to go to .32-20 or .32 Mag. Of course I could just do both in .32 Mag and only shoot the Flobert using .32 Long and save money on a chamber reamer
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>>34749544

Actually, here's Larry Potterfield doing one to .32-20, but there are many different calibers you could do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfFxjX4jMkU
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https://youtu.be/D43ZeYu9dnM

Home rifling
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>>34749597

I wouldn't do .32 Magnum. You're talking about milder steel in these old guns and they might not handle the round. .32-20 or .32 Colt/S&W IMO. Maybe .32 ACP.
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>>34749642
I know but .32 SW Short and Long generates similar pressure to .32 RF Short and can be chambered in .32 Mag guns. The only concerns I have are with the Flobert's trapdoor style action. I'm less concerned with the Hopkins and Allen
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1020 DOM A513/5 is acceptabel for tube gun receivers no?
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>>34748171
Your problem is you think in terms of inevitable failure, not increased potential for it. If you have proof of welds failing like that I'm all ears.
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Bump with carcano project. Yes, that's a rail attached to the stock. It's getting modernized.

>scope rail coming in the mail to modify
>going to get a rubber butt plate
>one of those leather cheek weld units
>hunt down a bipod
>maybe a VFG
>debating on converting it to use these: https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/218990.htm

Might take a flier on one of those mags once my 10% dealer's discount gets approved.
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>>34751894
Delete yourself unless that's already sporterized
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>>34751921

Don't worry: it was already a lost cause.
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>>34751926
Carry on then. Though be aware the spaghettis had weird progressive rifling so the twistrate will be knackered if the barrel was trashed
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>>34751936

This is a later model that had traditional rifling. Barrel is original regardless. Had other issues and not a model of high desirability, which in the land of Carcanos would be like $250-300 max.
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>>34751961
Mod it to 300 blk and thread it for a supressor
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>>34752008
300blk won't fit in the enblocs, you'd need to make your own,
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>>34752058
>>34752008

No conversion. It's a pristine bore and I'm sitting on a nice stockpile of 6.5x52. There was a .45 ACP conversion on Gunbroker a few days ago but it sold for more money than I was willing to pay. :(

I was going to buy it and convert it to use 1911 mags so I could get some drum mags for it.
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I've got a scrubbed Gew. 88 barreled action with a basically smooth bore. What are some cool things I could do with it. I'm more or less a complete novice. Obviously this gun is too far gone to return to its military configuration and doing so would take a lot of parts that could be used to restore another gun. What's the first step I should take in order to expand my skill set and make a cool custom sporting rifle.
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>>34751894
if you want any sort of accuracy use good carcano ammo. or rebarrel it idc

t/ watched ian's vid about carcanos
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>>34752127
What I did with my bubbad arisaka is rebuilt the magazine with parts from ebay, helped improved my confidence in general replacement and maintenance. Next I re-finished waht was left of the stock, it's good practice and I was able to mess around with stains and finishes, decided BLSO and tung oil gets my dick throbbing the most.
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>>34749638
He is so incompetent it really hurts to watch.
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>>34752344
See I don't even have a stock right now. I could go ahead and get a magazine and slap it in and make a stock. But the next question would be what caliber to chamber it in. The barrel will need to be rebored or replaced either way.
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>>34752091
What wrong woth it? Also clean your lens, Christ.

>>34752127
Maybe reline it for a 30 carbine or .32 acp?
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>>34752368
How so? No home rifling setup is really good, just acceptable at best
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>>34752423
Here is whole buttload of information on home rifling but it's in Russian.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX-IJIAEY0rQ-xFNU7Y5-5A/videos
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>>34752435
Care to translate or explain why his button rifling method is better?

Only thing I can glean is he uses linger stock for what I assume is ridigity/ interchangability, which is interesting as this was the historical reason for barrels being of the same diameter in Russian guns.
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>>34752435
Rip
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Hey guys a bought an arisaka with the flower intact. Problem is I feel unworthy to touch it, as the rifle is property of the emporer. I want to build an exact copy of the rifle so that I can shoot it and enjoy it, since the only reason I'm keeping the original arisaka is that so I may one day return it to its rightful owner.
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>>34753229
So the question becomes, how does one map out and re-create a rifle from scratch like that?
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>>34746445
>>34746648
I work in a metal fab shop (On the design side) so I've got lots of tools available
When I ask about this kind of shit my coworkers usually tell me I'm over-thinking things, so I do tend to wing things a good bit. Worked so far with the programming I've done on our CNC mill, and worked well enough for me to build my AK with no idea what I was doing, plenty of equipment, and a good deadblow hammer
Got a Machinery Handbook on the way from Amazon though
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>>34749755
What are you trying to make?
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>>34753671
oh, just patching some gaps in a sa26 build. I have enough chunks that almost everything overlaps, but it would be nice to just cut up this tube I have and use it for some sections. I could just use original tube material, but that would require four more welds.
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How cheap can I build a 1911? Thought sarco would make it somewhat logical but they are permanently out of stock on everything.
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>>34753235
go buy a piece of shit sporterized one and unsporterize it.
Or hard mode
Go buy a pos sporterized and rechamber it to .308 so you dont have to worry about ammo and unsporterize it.
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How much is to much for a imbel fal receiver
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>>34752368
he's is being crude on purpose in that video.
in same way that Luty made his SMG. to prove that anyone with basic tools can make firearms.
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>>34755415
>tfw no legal Luty SMGs
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>>34753864
you can buy them cheaper than you can build them
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>>34756782
Damn, you would think with 350 complete guns there would be correspondingly cheap kits
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>>34756112
nothing stopping you. I think in Montana and Alaska they are legal as long as they are marked "made in X" and don't leave the state. Though the ATF might still come after you.
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>>34746331
Ideally you want to mill in the direction that you clamped the vice too. You want to push against the back of the vice rather than the sides, it's more secure that way.
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>>34753229
wat
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Anyone have a list of parts differences between a IMI Galil and a Vector R4? just got my Galil parts kit in today and hope to swap out the bits that differ to build an R4. I know its possible to do, but aside from the gas tube being larger on the R4, and I think the handguard too, I'm not sure what differs.
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>>34759575

Not sure brother but sounds fun.

>meanwhile I'm stuck trying to convert some extended mags to my FEG P9R.

Not going so swell. Probably going to have to get another type of mag to play around with because I don't have enough clearance between the existing hole and the hole I need to make, and I've been prototyping one by extending the existing hole but I don't see it working out. Numrich got in a ton of mag bodies and I could buy some of those, cut and weld, but I plan on selling these mags and that's going to kill my profit margin because I don't want to try to sell these things for more than $50 because nobody will buy 'em at that price.

Also thinking about getting a SCCY and making extendos for those because there's a huge demand for them apparently. LGS has been telling me about it; gets at least one or two in a week wanting an extendo for an SCCY.
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>>34759805
I wouldn't get too hype for succy extendos, someone like MecGar or primary is probably going to scoop you
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>>34759575
lots
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>>34737557
Your story was literally one of "waaah I got a lemon, I dont like x design because dumb cops managed to goof it up (unsurprisingly)" but then you said

>It's also completely beyond me how Smith managed to design a DA without a second strike capability.
I dont know why someone whos over the age of 35 would post on an predominantly anime image board to begin with but you need to take your meds and go to sleep old timer. You're just talking out of your ass now.
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>>34727395
H O T
O
T
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>>34745679
whats the price difference between the two?
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Mounting optics onto a Hakim?
Best idea I've come up with is mounting a Mosin optic directly to the side below the dust cover
Don't want to buy a long eye relief Leopold and lose all usage of the irons
Don't want to purchase something that will cover the stripper clip guide
Would prefer an optic somewhat time period accurate
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>>34760992
like?

im already going to be like 1.5k into this thing by the time its done.
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>>34730005
What up GunBroker
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>>34731511
That is a very tiny picture son
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>>34731827
Isn't that paint over anodizing like Beretta 92s? So you'd just want to remove the paint and recoat?
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>>34737850
>Build one as a pistol
>Look correct
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>>34749606
God I love that man
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>>34754408
You don't understand, I don't want a rifle made by the Japanese people for my own use. Those relics were stolen from their rightful owner owner and honestly the reason I bought one is because I want to see it returned to its rightful owner one day. And the people who bubba those rifles deserve nothing short of being sodomized to death by a katana. I do really like the design though and I would like to have one for myself, just not one that doesn't belong to me meaning I want to make a clone, even if it is only made from American pigiron
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>>34764194
that's some autism
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>>34764194

The Japanese people can't even own that type of weapon nowadays. The Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings were the most successful MtF transition in human history.
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>>34727395
How hard is it to drill the barrel dimple for an AR low pro gas block?
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>>34765337
Do you have a center punch? If so you may want to try that first, then drill if needed.
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>>34765112
Yeah respecting one of the only cultures that still values honor and tradition is autistic. I'm not even one of those weaboos that wants to go to Japan and soil it with my gaijin ways. Yeah they are a magnificent and beautiful country, with the most attractive women on this planet, but even if I was offered a free vacation to Japan I still wouldn't dare set foot in their country. I just want to see them prosper, and I know one day they will no longer be controlled and cucked by the west. And at that point I will offer them the elegant and deadly type 99 arisaka rifle used by their forefathers that I have kept safe for them.
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>>34765112
>>34765200
Please don't respond to bait in one of the few threads worth anything here
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>>34727395
I got two issues that need solving

1. My LCP I just got has some failure to feed issues where the bullet just doesnt go into the chamber all of the way and gets stuck maybe 1/4th of an inch before it close, I slap it home and its fine but this happens once every mag or so with both American Eagle and Blaser Brass 95gr.

Is it a tight chamber, a finicky extractor? Should I send it back to ruger or is there another brand of ammo I should try?

2. Opinions on re-bluing a sentimental firearm, bad or good?
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>>34765874
Probably an improperly reamed barrel, just send it back to ruger.

As for re blueing that is mainly up to you, some people will despise you for it but others will see it as preserving the gun provided the damage isn't part of the providence. Almost all can say that doing a tasteful job of it is at least aestically pleasing.
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>>34765927
>Probably an improperly reamed barrel, just send it back to ruger.
Welp time to get that free mag

>As for re blueing that is mainly up to you, some people will despise you for it but others will see it as preserving the gun provided the damage isn't part of the providence. Almost all can say that doing a tasteful job of it is at least aestically pleasing.
Fair enough, I'll look into a bluing kit, even though I'm set up for duracoat but I absolutely refuse to duracoat a vintage Model 10
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>>34765954
If you really want to make it special look into rust bluing, most durable of oxide finishes but also the most time and labor intensive, also looks amazing when you get the polish right
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the Stevens 66 is really fancy. Would be super simple to convert to pump action. I might do so with mine; you could still retain the bolt action capability too
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>>34766004
thanks I'll look into it, might be worth it
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what do ya'll use for threading on the lathe, carbide or HSS?

still need my gage pins to get here too...
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>>34765828
I'm not 100% memeing though. I do want to see the Japanese people be able to at least own the rifles their forefathers carried
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>>34761769

you could manufacture a replacement for the upper handguard and make it scout config see pic

brackets mount to barrell assy directly, this prevents interference of recoil, 2 points of stability, rail is welded to 1 side of the brakcet to keep it centered with the barrel, and the other side is held on by screws (torqued and loctite) if you wanted to go so far as the use of the stock by cutting grooves to hold the rail block in, that might be an option, no modification of the receiver or barrel required
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>>34763922
I literally say that a few posts down
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>>34766455
gross
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>>34766455
hi Bubba
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What exactly do I have to do to modify a bolt to fit a different cartridge. Like going from a cartridge with a .470 rim to a .460 rim
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>>34766455
>what are barrel harmonics for 300 alex.
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>>34768579
what are you trying to do?
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>>34734244
high speed steel will cut that no problem. don't bother wasting $ on carbide when you don't need it. The steel wouldn't be much harder than 35 Rockwell because you want receivers tough, not cutting edge hard.

get as much off of the receiver with a saw as you can. then go to town with your mill.

you can cut a plug of wood and wedge it inside the opening. this helps keep the sheet metal from bending away from the endmill. I assure you that is a good thing.
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>>34766035
HSS
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>>34765954
Do not cold blue anything, ever. It's absolute shit.
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>>34768857
Rust blue, you mong.
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>>34768883
Oh, ok. Rust bluing is definitely acceptable. It's kind of a pain in the ass though, takes forever.
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>>34768905
That's why I said extra special.
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>>34760438
it's a S&W 59 mag so does anyone make a twenty round mag for those pistols?
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>>34768808
>>34768837
Not that guy, but what do you recommend for 4140 heat treated, 8620, and 9310?

I was thinking carbide, but a few guys recommending some coated hss
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>>34768667
Convert a severely scrubbed and otherwise worthless Gew.88 to .35 Remington
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>>34766035
HSS is almost always the right answer on a lathe until you get into turning parts which have been hardened past Rockwell 45.

HSS is logarithmically cheaper and can be ground into any shape you need, and resharpened for days.
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>>34769062
Titanium Aluminum Nitride coated HSS, with a coolant mist. 65 SFM, 0.003-0.005 IPT. Get two endmills, a rougher 0.01 inch smaller than your finisher.
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>>34769286
been looking into lakeshore carbide, they're relatively inexpensive, and cheaper than HSS with the coating.
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>>34727395

TFW I have and SG-43 kit and Clark will probably die before I pay the $3k for him to build it.

Also TFW x54r is banned from import an prices are high. I only have 4 crates.
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>>34769817
just do the build yourself it's not that hard
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>>34769957

Have you done it? I've never welded other than a short course in stick welding. Did you purchased a trigger setup? Have any helpful links?
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>>34766455
I would much prefer not to cut the stock up too much on the fore-end
Also
>Rails
On a Hakim
Maybe the later model that actually had a rail, but not the first model.
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>>34761134
I'm the guy he was arguing with and I didn't even get past cracking grip before I stopped reading.
>S&W fixed the problem and sent out new grips to everyone, so he's an idiot
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>>34769286
Every single machinist I've asked has told me that titanium nitride coating is just a marketing gimmick and does literally nothing. I bought TiN coated endmills because why not, but I think TiN coating is just a meme. Is there evidence that it actually extends the life of the bit?
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>>34748025
>welding in an apartment with what will likely be flux core wire

that is literally tweaker tier
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Anyone know someone that can make customer 1911 grips for a 1911 with special snowflake grip screw hole spacing,?
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>>34771629
there's some paintball company that can
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>>34771629
just get it laser cut
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>>34771745
Are you being serious or just jelly?
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>>34773837
no like for real I can't remember the name of them but they made me custom 1911 grips with all the special snowflake shit I wanted for it
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>>34766049
Before you get too much more weepy about the poor Nips, you might want to ask the Chinese, Koreans, Philipinos, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, Thai and Burmese how they feel about the Japanese people being able to etc etc.
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>>34727395
How's the baby?
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Could you mod an 80% 1911 frame to fit a Colt Mustang kit?
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>>34731896
ive got a few enfield clips i think are out of spec. theyre stupid tough and mar the brass whenever i use them. is there anything i can do to make better? i tried bending them out a bit but the steel springs back.
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>>34776475
Try polishing them up with some steel wool and sandpaper, brass and stripper clips were never supposed to be reused so that might be the problem.
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>>34771629
Shit nigga, I'll make you custom 1911 grips out of walnut at whatever specs you want. I'll checker them shits and everything.
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>>34776545
might be. ive got 5 right now. 3 of them the rounds fit in easily and take very little effort to push into the magazine, the other two its a struggle to get them on the clip and near impossible to load the magazine with them.
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Just started the same project that this guy game up on. I hope my luck is better.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/678311524
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>>34777427
*gave up on
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>>34777427
It's like a boat, you will never make your money back and it'll be a constant back and forth of shit that keeps breaking and needing fixing for parts that are way overpriced for what they are and most people give up mostly done.
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>>34745740
Thats pointless given the workpiece is not flat on the bottom.

OP you may want to try some soft jaws or a different clamping setup. Do you have any toe clamps or 1-2-3's?
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>>34752416
30 carbine
interesting
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>>34777468
>parts that are way overpriced for what they are

When you can even find them. I've already resigned myself to making a custom magazine release because the parts just aren't available.
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>>34746053
I'm glad you brought this up. Most people dont even know what they fuck you are saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galm5_6SUcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss475wvN1Qg

The reason you should use collets as apposed to a three jawed chuck is because the collets will hold the cutting tool more accurately,will not allow for as much run out, and has more clamping surface area. With endmills you want a secure and accurate hold to avoid breaking your tool and or destroying your work piece.
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>>34766760
Proof?
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>>34774873
Got eem
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>>34765874
2. What gun are we talking about? Pics?
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>>34768857
What are you basing this off of?
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>>34777620
>or destroying your face

ft4u
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>>34774873
HAHAHAHA damn anon that's some funny shit
>Korean/Laotian/Thai/Burmese "people"
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Big Bump 4 U
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Hold on to your butts this is going to be a really terrible ride
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>>34780735
How is that "No FFL Required?" Is the frame not the receiver?
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>>34780794
Chassis system pic related is the receiver
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>>34780842
What's your plan with that?
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>>34780935
Make that chassis or show what a horrible failure I am.


Probably going to have multiple goes of it, first, make a chassis that has functioning rails and trigger/ striker. Then move on to the slide stop, then move on to the safety, then try to put it all together, anodized for strength and wear resistance and fire a couple proof rounds.

Only tools are a dremel, a set of homemade chisels, a hacksaw, calipers and a vice.

I won't post until I either finish it or get stuck. If everything goes to plan the lessons from this will be able to make any chassis system capable of cloning to varying degrees.

I have a lot of doubts of this going to plan but why the fuck not.
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>>34780842
Well damn. I didn't think Brazil had figured that out yet. Guess that's what I get for underestimating them.
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>>34781037
Jesus dude. I dont know if I could even make that thing and I have access to a full machine shop. Good luck you fucking madman.
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>>34781037
Yeah man, there's no way that's going to be possible. That part is really complex looking, you'd have to be like the Mozart of dremel tools to make that shit. There's just absolutely no way in hell.
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>>34781037
the sig system looks so much simpler but obvs you would need one to pattern off of and a parts kit wouldnt run 87$ . . .
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>>34781037
>Only tools are a dremel, a set of homemade chisels, a hacksaw, calipers and a vice.

I suppose you could set out to dig the Panama canal with a teaspoon, but you're probably not going to be successful.
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>>34782307
o shit, waddup

https://news.ghostguns.com/2017/05/29/p320-compatible-80-insert-ghost-guns/
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>>34782360
>Sig sold a fucking sheet metal and plastic gun to the army on nothing but steak dinners and brand recognition
The absolute madmen.
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i want to saw my o/u down because i think it would be fun. i know a 12" bbl shotgun is useless for everything but hurting wrists but should i bother to choke them or just leave it at cyclinder?
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>>34782667
Just sell it and buy a stoeger coach
>12 inches
Good luck, lad
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>>34782700
being practical is no fun. its 100% about the aesthetic.
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>>34777548
>those milling marks
Absolutely disgusting, best of luck to you though, you get to the finishing stage I'll give you what is left of my rust blue at that point.
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>>34768808
>get as much off of the receiver with a saw as you can
Anything specific? I've got several ways I think I can go about it but no idea which would be ideal
>Metal hand saw
>Dremel with cutoff wheel
>One of the shop guys with an angle grinder
>Industrial bandsaw that will make a huge mess
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>>34783884
A bandsaw will be the most accurate. The slower it feeds, the straighter the cut will be. You can cut pretty accurately with an angle grinder/cut off wheel is you have a lot of practice and steady hands. Dremel with a cut off wheel is really only good for making small cuts on small pieces of metal. Wear fucking safety glasses when doing that shit, those little dremel cutting disks explode all the time. A shard of that in your eye would fuck you up pretty bad. A hacksaw is good because you're going slowly and can compensate/readjust as you go, but it's obviously slow and tiring to do it that way.
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>>34784399
Hell yeah
Didn't look like the vice on our bandsaw would work for shit on these pieces (It's more made for cutting sticks of metal, not small 1-off stuff)
Asked one of my coworkers if he'd give it a shot with a grinder and I'm glad I did
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>>34784765
And like a big dummy, I forgot to attach the picture
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This is a bump
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HELLO GG

I don't know much about machine shop usage, as in, hiring a shop to make something for me.

I need a custom endcap milled. Nothing fancy whatsoever, just a stack of offset cylinders with a couple holes drilled.

How does this process work? Do I need to just fork over some drawings, or should I make a 3D model, or... I don't know how to write g code for whatever machine they're running, should I look into that or what.
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>>34789263
just call one up and ask them to make one for you. Give them threads, diameters, and any other essential stuff they would need to make it. They're going to rape you on price though.

DO NOT BULLSHIT WITH THEM OR WASTE THEIR TIME.

They are business men and their time is precious for maintaining their business and machinery.
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>>34789425
I mean I know the guy. They have a shop right next to mine so we're kinda buddy buddy, it's not that sterile of an exchange. I just want to make it as quick and painless for him as I can.
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>>34789441
oh, okay. I thought you were cold calling one. Yeah, give him the diameters, thread pitch, height, and wall thickness of the endcap.

Or ask him what he needs, and he'll give you a list.
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>>34789469
Don't even need thread pitch, or arguably holes drilled as I can do all that myself. Hopefully it's as easy as I imagine.

Man I need to just get my own mill and lathe.
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>>34776689
I don't know about walnut, but some darker wood maybe? I'd prefer rubber/polymer over wood for this gun simply forthe aesthetic, but functionality usurps all. The only problem is that some dumb fuck threaded the grip screw holes on the frame for the grip SCREW, not the grip screw BUSHING.
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>>34789546
>Man I need to just get my own mill and lathe.
tell me about it. I have a buddy getting a 5 axis machine pretty soon, but he told me I could use it.

however, I need something for around the house and as a side business.
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>>34789643
>tfw still living the apartment to apartment lifestyle and getting by on (semi) portable tooling
If I never have to move another 20 ton press up three flights of stairs again it'll be too soon.
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>>34789661
>20 ton press up three flights
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>>34789898
>I NEEEEEED THIS TO BUILD MY AKS
>never actually builds AKs
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>>34789916
or almost any build that has a front sight or a gas block.
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>>34789949
To be fair I used it for that once or twice.
Dickass arsenal shipping their SLR104ur line with a limiter in the gas block.
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>>34777548
Neat
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>>34727476
>knockoff "Dremel"
>knockoff digital calipers
You shop at Harbor Freight, poorfag?
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>>34791994
How can you tell that isn't a true mitutoyo?
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Do I need to modify the bolt head when going from a cartridge with a .470 rim to a cartridge with a .476 rim? Or is it close enough to not matter?
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>>34783428
The one on GunBroker I linked to has similarly horrific machining marks. I don't know if Sarco's stock is factory seconds, or if it was standard procedure at Federal Ordnance to have a retarded monkey running the mill.
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Does anybody know the bolt weight of a .45 ACP Mac 10? I've googled but can't find it anywhere.
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New to building rifles from kits.

I've got a neighbor who builds ARs in his workshop. I asked if he would let me use his tools if I buy the parts. He agreed, and offered to help me out.

I was thinking of building either a PTR 91 or Austrialian L1A1.

Looking at the kits available on HKparts, I see several kits for the PTR 91 for cheap. As I understand it, the only thing aside from the kits I need to get a hold of is the receiver as far as actual firearm parts, correct? 350 a kit, even on sale, feels really cheap to me, and I'm worried I'm missing something important.
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>>34794802
For clarification cetme rifles aren't g3's. They don't even take the same magazines
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>>34795172
They're essentially the same and G3s will take CETME mags and some G3 mags will work in CETMES without modification and some will need modification.
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>>34794802
Just do a L1A1


G3 patterned rifles are fucking annoying as shit to put together and maintain


FALs are easy af to build, and shoot better
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Update: Haven't been able to devote a lot of time to this but slowly getting there
Need to run a smaller mill through the corners and most of the sides are just a hair away from being completely removed, but it's getting harder and harder to properly vice the damn thing up.
Would it make sense to try and break out some of the small remaining pieces with a chisel, hammer, and file as needed?
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>>34797822
don't wear gloves when machining you fuck
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>>34798252
this

>>34797822
do whatever you need to to get it to work.

You're completely over thinking it. Take a fucking sawzal and cut the shit off.
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>>34798252
Only for handling the part afterwards, metal splinters really blow

>>34798333
Works for me, time for AK 2:Electric Boogaloo
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>>34799878
>pocket full of chips because only girls wear aprons
>fone begins buzzing
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>>34800083
>go to car after work
>pop trunk
>take shoes off and put them in a cardboard box
>nicknamed box the chip catcher

>bottom of shoes look shiny with so many chips stuck to the bottom
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So, budget TIG welder. Sub 1k
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>>34800412
Seconding request
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>>34800412
>>34800963
I was told ahp alphatig 200x
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Best way to check for microcracks on an 1883 Martini Henry?
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>>34792525
it's real. old and busted, but real. that anon is just a faggot.
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>>34769401
99.5% of the time, cheap carbide is worth less than good HSS. in the shop i work at, we only use cheap carbide if we need a cutter on short notice and carbide is the only thing the local guys carry in the profile we need. like that time a local factory needed a hole drilled & reamed in an already hardened punch (M2) and needed it by close of business.

if you can plan a few days ahead, you buy sumitomo or better and wait on shipping.

>>34770881
TiN (Titanium Nitride)=/=TiAlN (Titanium Aluminum Nitride)

TiN is shit. TiAlN werks gud.
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>>34769401
>>34801854
home gamers would really be best served using HSS. it is more forgiving all around and more than hard enough to tackle everything from plastic to pre hard 4140. plus, you can sharpen it on a pedestal grinder, no diamond wheel needed.
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>>34801210
pay for a shop to magnaflux it.
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>>34801907
HSS is really the best option for most jobs cost/benefit wise
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Rip thread
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>>34804517
Holy shit why haven't I seen that before
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