It's official. Once integrated into service, the PAK-FA

never EVER

>Su-57

Like Heinz 57...
BECAUSE RUSSIANS ARE ALWAYS PLAYING CATCH-UP

>>34720014

Characteristics of the su-57

Scale - 14,1 meters
Length is 20.1 meters
Height - 4.6 meters
Empty weight - 18 tons,
Normal takeoff weight of 25 tons
Maximum takeoff weight of 35 tons
Maximum speed - 2M
speed Cruising at supersonic speed - 1.3 M
Range at supersonic speed - 1500 km
the maximum flight Range - 3,500 km

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>>34720014
I like it.

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Well, they finally got a name picked out.
Now they just need to get the plane to work.

>>34720014
Also during MAKS-2017, MiG acknowledged it is still working on the LMFS light fighter and it is still not dead, yet.

And Yakovlev design Bureau is also making a VTOL.

>>34720014
Great! Now it needs a NATO Codename.
What is the best name for this bitch?

>>34720014
S-DUCTS
|
D
U
C
T
S

>>34720350
Failure.

>>34720350
Faker.

>>34720350
Flattened

>>34720350
Flapjack
or
Flatfoot

>>34720350
Flatchest

>>34720350
Fugly

>>34720033

>>34720362
>>34720383
>>34720398
All of these sound fucking wonderful.

>>34720350
Faux

>>34720350
Falchion

>>34720350
The Su-57 "Flounder"

>>34720350
Fuckup

>>34720350
faggot
too bad it's already taken

>>34720468
Flounder is fitting and would be my first choice, but it's already taken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_JH-7

>>34720350
Four Point Five

>>34720350

Fartcan

>>34720350
Cuckold

>>34720486
Ah, Damn it

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>>34720350
Fantasia
>>34720511
Commercial and Cargo aircraft use reporting names that start with "C" nigga

>>34720350
flounder.

>>34720545
>Flying biryusas
YOU SEE IVAN, WHEN AA IS OF AIRBORNE YOU NEVER FEAR SEAD, FOR YOU ARE PLANE NOW

>>34720350
Su-57 Flamebait

>>34720350
Flameout

>>34720014
It looks really impressive but what about avionics, sensors, u know the soft side of shit?

>>34720350
Fuccboi

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p is for pursuit

f is for fursuit!

how about FAGOT II?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-15

>>34720350
Flippy Floppy

>>34720549
Sorry man, Already taken.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_JH-7

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>>34720350

Futin

>>34720350
>flatfish
>flim-flam
>flashpan
>fairy

>>34720350
Futa

>>34720350
Fluttershy

>>34720350
Flamby or Flan

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>>34721288
>Flan

>>34720350
Flatpack.
Or not, as even IKEA could have made actual S-Ducts since everyone except vodkaniggers and chinks has halfway-decent engines.

>>34721288
>>34720456
One syllable names are for propeller planes only.

>>34721281
2nd

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>>34720350
Su-57 FLACID

>>34720350
Feltcher

>>34720350
Fatter

>>34721331
damn i wish

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>>34720350
Su-47 "flammable"

>>34720545
For anyone wondering; the text translates into:

>Nicholas Chernov
>Aviation Regiment
>CSN-23-4 against F-22
>Born Crawl - Fly Can!

>>34720350
Furfag

Su-50 would have beenbbetter or Su-55

F-22 still best plane ever

>>34720350
Fuugggggg:D

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xaxaxa

>>34721411
is it an accurate scaling? their sizes look off

I like that nobody asks for the source.

Fake News.

LOL Y SO FLAT!!!?!?!?!?? XD

>>34721326
>>34720350
Flatback.

>>34721465
T-50 should be ~30% larger.

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>>34720033
Ebin

>>34721470
>Su-57, NATO reporting name: "FAKENEWS"

>>34721550
Shit, forgot to clear name from shitty bait thread.

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>>34720014
>It's official.
An article in a French journal doesn't make it official, and neither is bmpd simply translating the article. Do you have the actual proofs?

>>34720350
Flamer
Flamboyant
Falsehood

>>34721573
not OP buts its still better than sp**nik or its other krembait news.

>>34721590
I get that americans are used to twitter "news", but I'd much prefer sputnik quoting an actual official than a random French journal quoting no one.

>>34721573
>>34721573
If you haven't read the article, the frenchies got the news from anonymous official sources.

That is more reassuring than something that came from Izvestia.

>>34720039
That's a low supercruise speed

>>34721621
I don't speak French. "Anonymous official sources" means nothing. If there was an actual official source, it wouldn't have mattered who quoted it, since it can be traced back to the source. With an anonymous source it's just a make believe.

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>>34721573
What's with Ruskies and Broofs??

Literally hundreds of memes about this and it's true

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>>34721654
It's like they don't have internet to search or can't understand shit by their selves

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>>34721595
>I'd much prefer sputnik

What a fucking retard, Sp*tnik is like the biggest meme in news networks, worst than CNN

>>34721654
What's with the west and the absence of proofs? Literally hundreds of memes to cover this and it's true.
>>34721661
More like it's like the only source of this information so far is a French journal.

>>34721669
>quoting an actual official
Taking words out of context like a true shitposter, aren't ya.

>>34721669
>Sp*tnik is like the biggest meme in news networks
You must be new if you don't know the biggest meme in Russian news network.

Or a reddit nigger.

>>34721647
I know right?

F-35 supercruise is 1.8M for 28 minutes.

“In 2019, we should begin the delivery of a pre-production batch of [T-50] planes,” United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) chief Yuri Slyusar told the TASS news agency.

One of the reasons the Russians are less than enthused at buying the initial version of the Su-57 is because the stealth fighter is currently powered by interim Saturn AL-41F1 afterburning turbofans producing 32,500lbs thrust each. That is the same engine as the existing Su-35S Flanker-E, which uses many of the same systems that the Su-57 will.

Indeed, with exception of stealth, the new Flanker offers much of the same capabilities as the new fifth-generation fighter. Thus, the Russians are unwilling to spend money on a system that offers only a marginal increase in performance in their view.

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They can't even hit a performance of F-22 that was out in 1997.

Cool.

>>34720039
lol wut? SU50 cruise speed is 2.1 mach without afterburner

>>34721670
Whats up with russians and taking what the other said and just switch it on the opponent so they can have a response?

>>34721771
You mean F-35.

The F-22 is Air Superiority while F-35 and Su-57 is multirole. So it's better to say that it can't hit the performance of F-35.

>>34721776
Ok Boris

>>34720014
>B пocлeднeм нoмepe жypнaлa "Air&Cosmos" oпyбликoвaнa cтaтья Piotr Butowski и Antony Angrand «Du PAK FA au Su-57», в кoтopoй пpивoдятcя интepecныe cвeдeния oтнocитeльнo poccийcкoй пpoгpaммы coздaния иcтpeбитeля пятoгo пoкoлeния пo тeмe ПAК ФA. Haш блoг пpивoдит пepeвoд дaннoгo мaтepиaлa.

It's not even from official sources.

>>34721411
>Su-57 about to eat F-22 poop
Looks accurate.

>>34721329
What about Facesit, Fartbox, Fellacio...?

>>34721941
Maybe when vatniks call the lards 'shartniks' they get horny just thinking of eating all of that tasty poo.

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>>34721811
Even if you move the goal posts, Russians are still behind F-35 in terms of tech. Nothing changes. It actually becomes worse for them, because at-least we won't make new F-22 any time soon, but there is already thousands of F-35's ready to roll out in various countries all around the world. I hope Russian would be able to make 10 planes in the same timetable. I'm being generous here obviously, I wouldn't mind even 5-6 rolled out planes. Gotta take it easy on Russians because they are "special".

>>34720350
Frisbee

>>34721776
>SU50 cruise speed is 2.1 mach without afterburner
>this is what vatniks actually believe

Is it one of the features coming with the "ready any day now™" engines?

>>34720350
Faghag

>>34720350
Florida

>>34721977
>thousands

KEK

>>34720014
What happened to Su-48 to Su-56?

>>34722038
Over 200 already built and more will come. Let's see how much your shitty country manages to make, you silly vatnik.

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Ordered 12

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blyt

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>>34722064
>only 12
LMAO

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>>34722078
It looks so... dirty and inferior compared to the US 5th gen. Look at that sloppy paint job, rivets popping out everywhere and those FUCKING ENGINES. It's not even 5th gen in terms of profile and god knows how far behind they are in terms of avionics and onboard electronics.

Just compare it F-22, how sleek and elegant it looks. A true testament to the genius of USA.

>>34720039
You forgot

Dead on arrival - yes

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This is so retarded. The thing is definitely a Gen 4.5. Isn't Russia better off just updating its current roster of aircraft instead of making this? The logistics of making these instead of just more stuff they already got the tooling for has to be absurdly expensive. It's like, so little bang, for so many bucks.

>>34721411
>TFW its still can be engaged by that f-35

>>34720500
Ouch.

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average post of anti SU50 shill
Just give up
F-35 is shit

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>>34720350
Fellator.

>>34722334
average post of anti F-35 Russian botnet vatnik shill

kys

F22 RCS: under -40db
F35 RCS: under -40db
Su-57 RCS: ??

>>34722416
>under -40db
proofs

>>34722448
Do your own spy work m8.

For comparison: Taranis is about -30 with a stretch goal for -40, and the (laboratory-limited) cutting edge in early 00s USA was -70db.

I'd guess the Flaky Flounder Flapjack at slightly under -10, but that's without doing the math.

>>34722064
12 for their version of IOC and then when the plane is ready more.
For some reason I think that might be the better way to do it instead of buying hundreds of half finished F-35's and then spending tens of billions and god knows how long upgrading them to final specs

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>>34721654
>>34721661
>>34721669

>>34720350
FireFox

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360 degrees of vision for attack and defence

>>34722960
Say what you want, but that bird is fucking beautiful.

Shame that we are going to shoot them down one day. At least they don't pose any danger to us, save for breathtaking Air shows.

>>34723006
>we

USA isn't even going to exist in a few decades.

>>34723122
Lol vatniks

>>34722977
>round IRST balls
Just fuck my RCS up f@m

>>34720033
Thread ender

>>34723006
>Shame that we are going to shoot them down one day

relax hillary

>>34721376
>CSN
It's ZSU you triple nigger

>>34721376
You somehow managed to translate everything just wrong enough. Congratulations.

>Nikolai Chernov
>Aviashilka
>ZSU-23-4 vs. F-22
>Born to crawl, (yet) can fly!

>>34720545
Is this a real book?

>>34723122
Our country isn't going to collapse like yours did because we aren't run by a bunch of inbred cockholes. Nice try vatnik.

>>34723475
screencapped

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>>34723432
Unfortunately no, on the hand this is

Why not make plane bigger, scale up speed, hold more bomb?
Make same engine design twice as big; go twice as fast.
It's like having longer legs.

I dont care if its shit the design is pure sex

>>34723575
Was it ever translated?

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>>34723703
It`s definitely not shit, no matter what the chairforce of /k/indergarten says. How good it will be? Time will show.

>>34722539
Concurrency costs a lot less when it discovers flaws you wouldn't find without tens of thousands of flight hours.

>>34723664
>free fall bombs
only americans do this

>>34720350
Flat chest

>>34722539
>>34724117
Software patches do not cost billions.

>>34720350
Facehugger

>>34724148
The Russian air force in Syria wants a word with you.

>>34724169
they utilize old ammunition

>>34724150
next """"software patch"""" is $3bn

>>34724117
Well planned out test program and instrumented planes are what discover the faults, not 10k hours of random flights and hope that your 18yo mechanics catch any issues before they get one of your pilots killed

>>34720350
>Faggot 2: Electric Bugaloo

The Mig 15's designation was Faggot

>>34720014
>Official
>bmpd
Yeah some random slav's livejournal speaks for the whole Russian MoD

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>>34723147
>>34722977
>>34722960
I'm sure they'll fix more RCS issues as the development process goes on.
Think of all the changes between the original Su-27 too the Su-35BM?
They'll get around to fixing it's flaws as time goes on.

>>34724696
The RCS issues can't be fixed without redesigning the fuselage, guessing by the fact that the aircraft that they have now will likely be the final production version, and the fact that the Russian's recently slashed their defense budget its unlikely that the RCS issues will never be resolved.

>>34724290

The funny thing is that the F-35 is the safest jet procurement in USAF history.

>>34723575
Translation please?

>>34724696
>fix RCS issues eventually
>think of early Su-27s compared to modern Su-35s
Amazing. In twenty years the Russians will finally be on par with a plane that was designed in the 90s.

Truly inspiring

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Heard today from Russian source: T-14 is now in series production with 300-500 units being manufactured per year. Total number is 2,300.

>>34725148
around 50 already produced btw

>>34725148
>vatnik news

>>34725054
It's also the newest and only one that has been done in the age of CAE/CAM

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>>34725148
I wonder what the top armor is like.

Presumably the remote turret has been lightened, and the manned cell reinforced; but would a TOW 2B merely mission kill the turret assembly or could it kill the whole tank?

>>34720014
>Once integrated into service

That little detail...

>>34720033
ebic

>>34721332
This.

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Kuwait' MBT at Army Games 2017

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>>34725422
...What the fuck, Russia.

>>34720350
flapjack, cause of that pancake fuselage

>>34726005
Flatfish

>>34724074
>>34725056

trashy foreign literature is almost never translated to english (but trashy english literature is translated to the other languages all the time), it's just that there is such a lot of english genre fiction that there is little demand for translating even the much better written genre fiction than some inevitably shitty fantasy alt history like that book about some tankman elf. russian scifi/fantasy is full of alt history btw

some esl writers even write in english directly to increase the popularity of their books, like this guy did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannu_Rajaniemi

>>34722977
tfw the pilot being an ordinary human with two eyes doesn't have 360 degree vision and fucks up his brain trying to read 360 degree vision squeezed to a small screen

>>34726005
there was a burger experimental plane of that name

>>34727026
>Rajaniemi

A superb SF writer.

>>34725148
>actual number produced = ~30
>of that ~30 some are T-15 and T-16
>funding is going towards upgrading T-90A / T-72B3 / T-80BV

>>34727102
50 only t14
also no such thing as t16

>>34727257
T-16 is the armoured recovery vehicle variant.

>>34720350
Foxfox

>>34720033
>carlos.jpg

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>>34725422
Holy blyat

>>34725518
>Not the Zimbabwe tank that hit some concrete and was forced to retire.