ITT gun myths that just won't die >an enemy soldier

>>34713471
>170 decibel
ok Alex Jones

>>34713471
>you can't top off a garand clip
>you can't load a garand with anything less than a full clip
>the garands twisting bolt spins the cartridge in the chamber, breaking it free
>you will get garand thumb by loading a full clip
>you can't eject a partially full clip from the Garand

I don't know if it's fuddlore or actual lore at this point, but the myths about the garand are really annoying.

>the greatest battle implement ever devised
Oh fuck off with that. Technology has improved since then.

>>34713523
>fuddlore or actual lore
kek

>>34713471
>.223 is designed to wound

>>34713523
>>you can't top off a garand clip
>>you can't load a garand with anything less than a full clip
>>you can't eject a partially full clip from the Garand
I think these myths come from vidya. Most devs didn't allow for partial Garand reloads in vidya for many years because they didn't want to make another animation for it.

>>34713471
>9mm won't kill anything
>10mm stoppinpowah
>mini-14 sucks
>kel tec sucks

And the biggest offender

>The Mosin Nagant is a weapon for the gods and will dismember every enemy and possibly allies.

/k/ has fuddlore.

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>loading a magazine below full capacity makes it more reliable

>>34713578
>mini-14 sucks
>fuddlore
Pick one
And the mosin is only likes for its price, it's a fucking piece of shit russian peasant gun not worth more than $150 + ammo

>>34713563
That weirdly makes sense...

The ping thing probably happened in a few isolated incidents. The ping is pretty loud but compared to a Browning machine gun and a few Thompsons and Garands going off at the same time it gets very questionable. Infantrymen don't stroll around alone all that often and a Garand ping means nothing if there are three guys with Thompsons right beside him to catch anyone who rushes the position in the face.

>>34713581
My AR genuinely has issues feeding the first round from a pmag loaded with 30 rounds. My AR feeds fine when a mag is loaded with 29 rounds. Explain pls

>>34713578
>/k/ has fuddlore.
the moist nugget was a meme for years because it was cheap and so was its ammo. the sks was exactly the same before that.

now there's no more meme gun for poorfags because milsurp is dead.

>>34713471

>shouldnt leave mags loaded because muh spring tension

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>the .30 carbine doesn't have enough stopping power

>>34713596
How new is your pmag?

>>34713596

Pmags are shit anon.

>>34713596

not him but is your mag seated?

if you load a full mag on a closed bolt, you have to really slap it in m8, if its not seated its not gonna strip a round off.

tl;dr slap that bitch in on a closed bolt

>>34713591
Bloke on the Range pretty much covers this myth, and the other myths that I posted earlier, in a video he made. It's a great 12 minutes you won't regret.

>>34713596
Trying using a steel or aluminum mag and not a pmag.

>>34713471

>you dont need to aim a shotgun in a home defense situation

>>34713636

>steel or aluminum mag

as long as it has an anti tilt follower

>>34713610
>>34713611
The pmag is 7 months old

>>34713620
This was from an open bolt position but I'm aware of the problem you refer to.

Just tried it again and it misfed on the 3rd round.

I also have a pmag 40 rounder which I load up and haven't had issues with.

The only times I've had issues with my ar is when I load up 30 rounds and when I use tula steel case. Maybe if I load up 30 rounds with tula steel case, it'll fix itself


I believe there's documented examples of other guns having issues with fully loaded mags. The first one to come to mind is the sten

>Musket volleys and formations were because of muh honor.

>>34713471
Flamethrowers are illegal/against the Geneva convention

Also same meme about not using 50 cals against people because it's "illegal"

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>>34713706

>you have to aim at the belt buckle with a .50 because then its antimaterial

>>34713706
the US is not a signatory on anything regarding flame based weapons. or .50 cal. Also you can use ANY, ANY weapon to kill if its the only weapon you have available.

If your commander assigns you a damn bicycle pump, and you some how wrangle a hostile, and inflate him to death, well, it was your service weapon at the time.

>>34713690
This shit pisses me off to no end. Napoleonic warfare in general is highly misunderstood.

>.50 cal can scorch human flesh even from a near miss

.22lr bounces around in your skull

>>34713769
Dude, learn me.

>>34713578
>9mm is GOOD
>7.62x54R is BAD
9mm fags are truly delusional

>>34713596
Look up AR mag fix spring. Itl be a method where you bend the spring to add tension, and it fixes like 90% of mag problems

>>34713549
I never understood this statement.
All bullets are designed to wound.

>>34713578
>>mini-14 sucks
Mini 14 does suck though. It's wildly innacurate.

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>>34713471
My personal favourites are from gun hipsters
> Magpuls mags and furniture shit
> SERPAs are shit
> Insert other cheap item that is just as functional as more expensive equivalents

Others
> L85A2 is unreliable
> G36s are Inaccurate
> AKMs can be just as accurate as ARs
> Mauser actions are better military weapons than MAS36 and enfields
> ARs can be just as reliable as AKs
> Free float barrels are just as resilient as regular barrels and should be accepted for broad military use.
> Any comparison of any civilian spec weapon makes you is comparable to Military spec of the same platform

>>an enemy soldier could hear the ping of a Garand
Maybe, if you're high as fuck on adrenaline

>>34713974
>>>>an enemy soldier could hear the ping of a Garand. Maybe, if you're high as fuck on adrenaline

And you aren't shooting, nor the rest of your sqaud. Or his squad. And nobody shot before to make your ears ring. And you're within 30 yards of each other.

Can this joke die already?

>>34714011
To be fair i could often hear spent brass hit other spent brass at about 45 Yards, and thats with tinnitus and in thick of battle.

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>you can buy a new glock 17 for $310.49.
Best I've seen is $350 plus shipping.

>>34713904

Nuggetfags confirmed illiterate

>>34713523
fucking DoD: source, and the garand is a better gun than the k98k in every other way

>>34713523
>the garands twisting bolt spins the cartridge in the chamber, breaking it free
Wait, what?

>>34713601
>no more meme gun for poorfags
generic pot metal .32 revolvers

>>34713587
yea, my garbage rod's bolt got fucked a couple of weeks ago, it failed the protrusion test and I can't get the fucking firing pin out and I broke the guide rod trying to get it out. It just seems that the firing pin and the cocking piece is whats fucked, may have to replace those parts if I can get the pin out..

>>34713706
>>34713764
According to Geneva Convention and Protocol III of the CCW Convention, incendiary are technically not forbidden:
>burn combatant and military object
>burn combatant and military object when its the only means and method at disposal
>burn combatant and military object when incendiary is the most effective means and method to fulfill military necessity without risking civilians
>burn combatant by a mean or method of warfare, which incendiary effect is not its primary purpose or way to inflict harm
Lawful means and method of warfare
>burn noncombatant
>burn protected civilian objects
>burn combatant when knowing civilian will also get burned anyway
>burn combatant when there is a more effective means and method that can accomplish military necessity in less painful way
>burn the environment vausing widespread destruction
Superfluous Injuries and Unecessary Suffering

>>34713639
good god this. when I started shooting trap and shit fudds would always tell me to just square up. the fucker has sights like a rifle, use them.

>>34713471
>ARs jam at the slightest problem
>The M14 was a completely shit rifle
>AKs aren't accurate
>Hand dominance matters when using a rifle

>>34713793
less fuddlore more I didn't pay attention in high school.

>>34713601
You still got the "Remington Syndrome", people who got theirs when it was good, and preach about it to today, without fully knowing the current situation.

>>34713602
I still worry about this, I don't bother with AK/AR magazines but I do unload my HD shotgun and let the tube spring rest for a week at a time
No bully pls

>>34714552
wat. springs wear out due to use (compression and extension), not from being compressed or being extended.

>>34714286
The bolt rotates a bit (around 30°) with the first quarter inch of travel with the op-rod. The army training videos regarding the operation of the action claims that with this motion, the extractor produces the "strong initial extraction", or turning the spent cartridge inside the chamber. Well, turns out, that's utter bullshit and that spinning actually occurs before the extractor even touches the rim of the cartridge.

>>34714277
Sorry, what?

>>34714552
dont do that.

>>34713523
>greatest battle implement ever devised
Just add a "at that time" at the end and it would be a perfectly accurate statement.

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>>34713764
>I had to do it, you don't understand, the huffy pump was my service weapon!

>>34713974
Not sure if you're retarded or this is b8. Noguns maybe?

>>34714905
Oh absolutely. However, there are assholes that still think it's the best, period. I love the rifle, it's probably my favorite to shoot, but good god its a relic and has zero place on a modern battlefield.

>>34714552
Leave it full, or leave it empty. Switching between the two wears out the springs.

>>34713523
>greatest battle implement ever devised
First autoloading service rifle. In many respects, it was the most revolutionary battle implement ever devised. Sure, it's outclassed now, but frankly, the improvements the Garand's successors made over the Garand pale before the improvements the Garand made over it's forebears.

>>34714933
Same could be said of a certain pistol that's about 20-30 years younger but has an even more zealous fanbase.

>>34713601
>no more meme gun for poorfags
hi-point

>>34713471
>gun myths that just won't die
literally any bullshit Karl says

>>34714949
>first
No. The French had two(2) autoloaders in regular service in WWI. And I don't mean "oh they got used in planes and blimps until they put MGs up there" service either.

>>34714957
Fuck, I mean older.

>>34713870
it wasn't muh honor, it's that linear formations let you get the most lead into the air as quickly as possible. Thin your lines so you can envelop your enemies and unleash deadly enfilade fire. If you can't evelop anyway, thin your lines anyway as it lets you shit out the most lead at the enemy's line without shooting your own troops.

>>34714949
>>34714964
First standard service rifle, as in, everyone had this as the base for going into combat. Sure, there were ones before, but not given to the average soldier.

>>34714957
Yeah, the Luger is a good pistol, but weapons design has moved on from that.

>the 2nd Amendment shall not be infringed

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>>34715044

>>34714962
t. AKfag

>>34715115
hi karl

>the 25 ACP is underpowered
Bitch please, it's the best cartridge available. That myth got old a looooong time ago.

>>34715065
It's true and you know it is. The 2nd amendment is the degeneracy amendment.

>>34713606
enough to knock down the damn javelina near my yard

>>34713578
Another bad one:

>Taurus is below trash-tier and is worse than Raven Arms or Hi-Point

>>34713581
Used to be true with WW2 sub guns. MP40 and Sten mags hold 32 rounds. Most only loaded 28. Myth persisted to present day.

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From the mind of G. Gordon Liddy

Ballester-Molinas are made from the armor of the Graf Spee

.44 Special revolver is best for CCW