/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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What's the most memed MOS/branch that people often suggest you go?

How bad is it to lie to MEPs?

How shitty is life on a navy ship for a 6'6" person?

Is Marine basic enough to keep me conditioned for trying out for Force Recon or will I lose some edge?

Pros and cons of each branch?

>>34706340
>How shitty is life on a navy ship for a 6'6" person?
youll be fine, I knew plenty of tall people.
>>34706306
That pic is shitty asf dude.
>>34706336
AF or CG in general id say.

What if I wen't through a emo phase years ago and I left some evidence on my arm?

>>34706500
>What if I wen't through a emo phase years ago
youre a faggot
>>34706458
no one is going to type anything out for this dude, its to broad

>>34706458
Army
>lots of jobs
>worst dress uniform

Muhrines
>you can call yourself a marine [lol], also japanese bases and best uniforms
>you are in literally the most retarded branch, no redeeming factors besides their history

Air force
>living the high life, private rooms, nice meals, easy work, great base locations
>ridicule from everyone, branch most infested with leftist shit. Also choosing you job is literally a dice roll

Navy
>lots of travel, cool jobs, seabees
>boats are fucking hell, also nigger central

Coast guard
>Actually do operator shit without having to be SOF like the other branches, can attend pretty much any school from any rate, lots of their jobs are ships (not navy tier hell ships though, nice ones)
>top tier ridicule from everyone in and out of the military, long times spent as unrated unless you go chef

>>34706517
But is it a disqualification?

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Airfriends, question for you.

I've heard rumors, but is there a fairly significant population of furries in the United States Air Force? I know you have those big AIDS swinger communities on random bases but did you really feel the need to throw in fursuits too?

Explain yourselves, "Mr Fuzzybear".

>>34706556
yap

>>34706555
Army dress blues aren't bad when fitted right, and the Army might be getting the pink and greens back which would make them have the best uniform, arguably on par with the Marines

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>>34706555
>nigger central
Incorrect

>>34706555
>>boats are fucking hell, also nigger central
these are both wrong. also the niggers that are their are easy to get along with. Niggers in my div used to cut my hair in the head underway for free.

>>34706555
>you are in literally the most retarded branch, no redeeming factors besides their history
Rude

>>34706555
I dated a girl in the USCG here in SW Florida and it seemed so fucking cushy it almost made me consider it while I was waiting on an Army CID contract to get approved. She got BAH at E-3, a nicer apartment than the one I was living in, spent all day at the beach, and apparently the guys down at the station called their shifts "booty patrols" because that's basically all they did, self explanatory.

I have like 2 hours before I have to turn my phone in after family weekend. At fort benning for 19D osut if anyone have any questions about that shit.

>>34706650
How long Did you have to wait for a 19D contract at your recruiter?
11b is going to take months

>>34706574
Fuck

>>34706555
>Marines
>best uniforms

>>34706464
>AF or CG in general id say.
AF takes the crown for most memed in /meg/.

Mostly because there's one dude who just non-stop posts cherrypicked images with some trollish text. Not sure what his motivation is.

>>34706573
This is him, his style is very recognizable.

Is anyone here familiar with Marine artillery, specifically 0844 and 0861?

How easy is it to lateral move in artillery?

>>34706664
I signed in mid April and got a ship date for mid may. Depends on the time of the year, I got in for the summer surge. Spring and fall have less openings

>>34706684
>Not sure what his motivation is
autism for sure, gotta be

>>34706721
How hard is OSUT? How good of shape were you in when you shipped?

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>>34706684
Not that guy, but the air force is a big meme all in itself.

>>34706650
Did you pick 19D because of the cowboy outfit

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Any French soldier here ?

>>34706737
Not gonna lie, I was not in great shape but I made it fine. I wish I had done a lot more workout before shipping.

Important thing is that you're able to run 1 mile in less than 9 minutes, if you can't you'll get stuck at fat camp at the reception batallion.

Basic isn't that hard but you have to struggle with staying motivated. As long as you can remind yourself why you're here you can push through. The people who were sent home for refusal to train mostly did it because they didn't realize that being in a combat MOS means your life at osut will suck balls. The first week is awful but then it gets easier. It doesn't stop sucking but you get used to it.

Heyo /meg/, do you think Muhrines learning how to be an infantry rifelman regardless of their future MOS is a waste of time or not?

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>>34706823
>learning how to be an infantry rifelman regardless of their future MOS
They don't. If a non 03XX says otherwise, they are delusional.

>>34706742
I think they feed the airman ...something. Not sure what. Or maybe it just attracts fucktards.

>>34706823
They don't. The 'Every Muhreen a RIFLEMAN' meme is just that.

OFFICIAL JOB TIER LIST
>Top
"Tier 1" Operators
Fighter and/or Attack pilot
>High
Intel
Any other pilot
>Mid
Grunt
Ground vehicles
Corpsman
>Low
Anything else
>Bottom
Water Dog

That is all

>>34706853
>>34706884
But I'm pretty sure that concept can be directly found on Marines.com or whatever their website is called.

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>>34706742
is it one of those featureless faceless cucks that serve the planes - feed them, pet them, bring them weapons etc but never fly them?

that's a sad fate imo, probably it affects their mind

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What's the best job if I want to drive myself to take my own life?

>>34706910
It's substandard, and does not teach and ensure you maintain the skills to be a proper Infantryman. The Corps teaches POGs to survive in a firefight, nothing more

>>34706922
1171 like >>34706898 said

>>34706898
>Water Dog
???

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>>34706917
In all of history there has only been one member of air crew that wasn't a fag. And it was this man.

He uncucked himself. And went to jail.

Is being a FiSTer a good job? It sounds like fun.

>>34706937
Ah I see. It's plain to me that the skills you got would probably wane in under a year and it's just a time-gap before you start learning your real job.

>>34706853
S K I N N Y
K
I
N
N
Y

More of this.

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>>34706922
As of 2010: http://nation.time.com/2010/10/05/which-military-jobs-are-most-prone-to-suicide/

For Navy it might be nukes, for USAF its air traffic controller and nuclear/missile operations.

>>34706555
>Marines are the most retarded branch

I see this often but I never get a source for this claim

>>34707003
Someone got offended by a Marine some time in the past. Or got cucked by one.

>>34706800
Thanks, I'm going to a POG OSUT but couldn't find much information on how hard it is

>>34707015
>>34707003
Speaking in extreme generalities, enlisted Marines are the low IQ guys with a lot of tattoos and no impulse control. The officers are just low IQ Chads. Again every individual is different but this probably applies to like every 7 out of 10 Marines

>>34707003
They're not the most retarded by educational standards, but they are the most retarded by culture standards.
>OORAH SEMPER FI
>OH YOU AREN'T A GRUNT? I'M SO SORRY HAHAHA
>I DON'T TALK WITH NON-MARINES
>ONCE A MARINE ALWAYS A MARINE
>I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE AND THAT'S WHY IT'S AWESOME
>WHEN THE ARMY AND THE NAVY LOOK UPON HEAVEN'S SCENES...
>I'M NOT AN EX-MARINE I'M A "FORMER" MARINE
>ALL THE OTHER BRANCHES SUCK DICKS
>WE'RE THE BEST BECAUSE WE TAKE ON THE SHITTIEST JOBS WITH THE MOST OUTDATED EQUIPMENT
>WE'RE THE FEW, THE PROUD, WE'RE MORE ELITE THAN THE ARMY RANGERS AND THE NAVY SEALS
>PT IS LIFE
>I DRINK BLOOD AND EAT NAILS
>DID I MENTION THAT I WAS A MARINE?

Can I sign up for a usaa account at basic?

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>>34707039
>are the low IQ guys with a lot of tattoos and no impulse control

Unlike the high IQ enlisted guys of all those other branches, am I right? Nothing worse than an enlisted guy pseudo-intellectual enough to think he is intelligent.

>>34707084
Not going to defend other branches, I'm just saying the Marines are the worst in this regard, bar none.

>>34707019
You'll be ok as long as you're not in seriously terrible shape and as long as you keep struggling and pushing yourself. Most of the chubby guys in my troop lost the weight real fast. Only 2 guys failed the basic training APFT and got recycled. Out of like 170 people.

>>34706306
>settlements
That's a nice way of saying stolen land.

>>34707064
>Having esprit de corp is bad
Wew lad...

>>34706964
i have just read about him, a pretty sad story how he got air embolism setting a glider record for marines but at least he only got 4.5 months of brig, a discharge and then became a civilian test pilot/engeneer

>>34707003
Stereotypes exist for a reason. It's not like someone just decided "Hey Marines are dumb lol".

These are the stereotypes
>Army aren't trained well
>Navy are gay
>Marines are dumb killers
>Coast Guard are wannabees
>Air Force are pussies

You can find certifiable badass operators and fucking gay retards in all branches though. Those are just the stereotypes.

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So you can go through MEPS without legally committing to anything, right? I'm a bit iffy on my retinal health unfortunately, and if that would disqualify me for the position I'd like to try for, then I think I'd rather serve my country in some other way.

>>34707039
Where's your source for this shit

>>34707105
There's espirit de corps and then there's being a cult. The Marines are a cult.

>>34707105
Esprit de corp is one thing, but being an empty headed piece of cannon fodder and proud of it is an affront to humanity.

I want to join the Marines, but I might have some legal trouble. Would it keep me out?
>Be in high school
>Be on school's cross country team
>Before every meet, our team is congregated under the team's tent waiting for the races to start
>Coach's wife and 1 year old daughter always shows up about 30 minutes before the race
>1 year old daughter always recognizes are uniforms, and runs up to us to give each individual person on the team a hug
>We look absolutely ridiculous when she does this, and are laughed at by everyone
>One day I get absolutely annoyed when she does it
>She gets to me, and I push her off of me, propelling he about 4 feet in the air
>Coach is absolutely infuriated at me for refusing to baby sit his child, and starts to yell at me
>I start to yell back and tell him how his daughter made our team look like an absolute joke before every race
>Kicks me off the team right then and there

I didn't give a fuck then, and still don't give a fuck now. I stood my ground and stayed by my principles. It's not my fault he's raising a whore for a daughter. I just don't want this to keep me from enlisting.

>>34707162
Please be bait.

>>34707162
Nice try.

Question:
I'm pretty fat right now and have been working on loosing it before talking to a recruiter. (Wanting to go Army, something combat related)
I hear it takes a while between talking to a recruiter, signing, and then shipping. Should I just talk with one now even though I'm like 35 pounds over?

>>34707162
what legal trouble if you weren't charged with anything

>>34707162
>I stood my ground and stayed by my principles
Principles of being a fucking cocksucker, I presume?

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>>34707162
Ok hold up

>>34707162

trolling, trolling never changes

>>34707128
bump

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>>34707162

>>34707248
If you're enlisting you swear in after you're done with MEPS

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>>34707135
>>34707137
t. Airman

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Which branch has no espirit de corps? Is there a branch where everyone is a whino and has next to no initiative for anything? A branch with no history and an unexplained fear of testosterone.

Also is there a branch where everyone is fat, slouches and doesn't even know how to move their arms?

I want to be a quasi-corporate environment where nothing gets done. What branch gives me that experience? I know such a branch exists.

>>34707300
Noep

>>34707128
As far as I know you aren't legally obligated unless you sign a contract for your MOS

>>34707305
We wear NWU III's now.

>>34707178
Worst that can happen is that they'll tell you to come back when you've lost weight. Go talk to them.

>>34707314
t. sailor?

>>34707314
Soldier or sailor

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>>34706898
>No submarine officer or surface warfare officer, commanding the most powerful weapons in the military's entire arsenal

Your list is half full

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>>34707305

>>34706922
lawyer

>>34707355
>be officer in the Navy
>get shot by an enlisted Marine
Inter-service bants were serious back in the day

>>34707353
>>34707345
He's a soldier then, lots of sailors have pride.

>>34707372
Just as serious in modern times
https://www.armytimes.com/story/military/crime/2015/06/10/army-vet-gets-80-years-in-killing-over-argument-about-military-branches/71019150/

>>34707397
Jesus. Nothing good has ever happened when somebody was drunk.

>>34707422
You happened, friend.

>>34707162
I chuckled

>>34707305
This is the guy that I referenced before, I think I've seen him post this picture 5 times now.

>>34707442
>tfw December concepted
Sh-shutup

>my country's officer selection board is meeting tomorrow
Wish me luck, buds

>>34708276
Good luck dude. My board is (probably) 3 months away.

>>34708312
Thanks, man
We're gonna make it

>>34708330
God I hope so. What are you going in for?

>>34706306
I was talking to a recruiter last week and took the ASVAB, scored an 86. Did a PFT with their group this Saturday, scored a 265 (following new USMC guidelines). OSO seemed pretty impressed, said he'd call me this week.

What do you guys think about my chances?

>>34708276
Good luck anon!

>>34708365
Naval officer. Looking forward to sailing some seas.

What about you? Gonna hump dirt?

>>34708396
Depends on what you want.
If it's Army Infantry, then you'll probably be shipping out by the end of the week

>>34708405
Nope. Also naval officer! Specifically for Student Naval Aviator.

If MEPS sees a reference to an unmentioned thing or other such stuff on paperwork, are they likely to persue the paperwork trail?

>>34708423
Right on!
In Canada, they don't specialize naval officers till they graduate.
It's just a general entrance until then.

My eyes were too shit for the AF. Navy won't likely be any more lenient. Would have liked to do some flying, but I'll have to settle for riding.

You gunning for chopper pilot? Or for some fighter jet shit?

>>34708454
If it's on the paperwork in any way, you shouldn't lie unless you absolutely have to.

>>34707072
Can someone answer this one?

>>34707072
>>34708632
I think that you can register for an account without being in the military.
I got a usaa cc and am not .mil (yet)

>>34708413
I was planning on being an officer, the OSO seemed pleased by my PFT, GPA, work experience (Paramedic/ behavioral therapist) and lack of felonies.

>>34708699
Officer can take a LONG ass time
Or it can't
Generally longer

If you can wait, do wait.

>be me, 21
>in my second semester of school (bachelors in network administration and information-security)
>totally open to serving, but the price has to be pretty high for a combat role
>about $37000 in debt so far for school

What incentives for what branch am I looking at? and which branch/path would be best for my current position? I've been suggested Air National Guard..

>>34708786
Literally anything, only thing that matters is how you serve

>>34708786
Airforce SigInt
You're exactly what they want.
Talk to a savvy recruiter and you can get the rest of your school paid for

>>34708797
How long you serve*

>>34708468
Hell yea man, go Navy! What are you hoping for, something like SWO?

I love the idea of flying an F/A-18 or even an F35 when we get them and potentially bombing some baddies back to the stone age (who doesn't, right?) but we'll see how well that intensity translates into real life flying and training. I'm also not opposed to flying helicopters as I love how much control you have over direction and speed being totally engaged with both hands and feet as well as the potential of SAR. Hell, I'd even enjoy being the "mailman" with a Greyhound or the Osprey in the near future. I've been told by everyone that I talked to who was an aviator that "it doesn't really matter in the end, you will end up loving what you fly". I'm still going to work my fucking ass off during flight school regardless because I know my performance basically determines what I'll be doing for the next 8 years after that.

I turned in my initial application to a recruiter who is now on maternity leave and have not heard anything for the past 3 weeks. Shes hasn't replied to emails or voicemails. Should I contact the recruiting office and try to get a new recruiter? Or would that look bad going behind this pregnant ladies back?

>>34708823
I'm not sure yet. Pressing the BoomButton sounds pretty fun, but honestly, I think NavO is up my alley. I like numbers and astronomy.

Hope you get your flyboy status.
In 5-10 years, maybe I'll be escorting your carrier in some joint operation.

>>34708834
In Canada, we don't have dedicated recruiters.
I'd just call the office and see what's up.
It's your future, not hers.

>>34708878
Sounds good to me man. Check back in once you get your notice.

>>34708834
If she's on leave she probably isn't checking her work phone especially maternity leave. My recruiter was the same story. He was always on leave. Call the recruiting office and explain your situation and kindly ask for an update.

Be persistent, but be polite.

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>my recruiter office has had phones down for over 6 months
What the actual fuck

>>34708805
>>34708805

would I have to wait until after I graduate with the bachelors?

>>34709004
Ask your recruiter

How often can I send letters in Basic?
How often can I access the internet to pay bills?

>>34708715
I'm fine with waiting, I'm currently working, so I'll just continue improving my PFT and my academics for OCS.

Anyone here happen to do sigint before?

>>34709138
I reckon anyone who has SigInt experience would stay away from posting on 4chan

>>34709138
My friend liked it so much he shot himself after he was discharged.

>>34709211

uh

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>>34709211
Hold on a second here

>>34709211
what's there to hate so much

any intel dude here?what's your typical day?monitoring other countries and shit?

>>34709289
I tried to go Intel
I have a great college record
3.9 average
Not perfect, I admit, but still

I got rejected from Intel.
Don't go Intel without a backup plan

You're thinking you want to go Intel because it's safe and has major hard penis prestige.
But have a back up.

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>>34706306
Britfag here, any other Brits on here?

I have a humanities degree. Worked a desk job for a while. Now I'm NEET because I'm a fucking idiot.

I looked at Warfare Officer with the Navy but I'm too old (just). What else would be a cool thing to do?

>>34709325
i will get my degree before trying to join the intel much safer than no degree in the long run.

>>34709325
Speaking of college, what if your GPA sucks? I've been to a few different schools, failed a couple classes, transferred my credits, and the last semester I was in school I didn't withdraw from the classes in time before I stopped going so I failed all of them. How do recruiters consider your college record during the enlistment process?

>>34708786

Second semester... $37,000 in debt

wut

>>34709412
Yeah that's pretty low for Americans
Educated indentured servants usually have 50k debt by then

>>34709325
what about linguistic?is it a meme job?i heard that the armed forces use contractors instead of their own linguistic.

>>34709434
I hear language fags are super in demand in the military
If you can speak Arabic, they'll suck some dick.
I guess Korean or whatever they speak in Iran or Pakistan would also be popular

Languagefags will always have a place in the Forces.
I can't say how much they will REALLY value you, but they will probably speed up your recruitment

>>34709484
i better learn mandarin,one of the critical languages i have i portuguese(native).
but with college ending in 2 years i wonder if MAVNI let me join as officer.

>>34709118
>and my academics for OCS.

ASVAB 86 is not spectacular. Your best course of action is to transfer to a mid-level in-state university and finish your Bachelors degree.

No way in fucking hell should you be that far in debt at this point, you are fucking up badly, get your shit straight.

They will generally pay off your student loans for you, but there is a hard limit depending on the branch
you choose. Navy has, or used to have the highest limit of like 65,000. Air force was low, around 10,000. This may have changed
at some point, as I know an Air National Gaurdsman that had 20,000 forgiven. You MUST mention you need to sign up for the student loan relief program when you first start talking to recruiters.
Otherwise theywill not lift a finger to point you in the direction that gets you any help that they dont think you are already aware of.

>>34709431
>Yeah that's pretty low for Americans
>Educated indentured servants usually have 50k debt by then

No goddamn way. I have the same amount of debt, only I graduated three years ago from University of Michigan. Paying out of state tuition or ivy league tuition with student loans is literally retarded.

Unless you're on a scholarship, or have rich parents, just go to the closest state uni, or even better idea... go to a community college that can transfer credits to the basic curriculum requirements and just go to university for two years. Same fucking diploma breh.

Dale did nothing wrong

I wanna join the ADF because I like unironically like it when shit breaks or doesn't work and I need to fix it.
What role would be best? I'm considering mechanical engineer since I seems like i'd be doing lots of mechanical stuff, as the name suggests.

>>34709512
Hold up, I think you meant to respond to >>34708786. I'm not in any debt, I actually managed to save some money in college. But my ASVAB was still 86, is that bad?

>>34709636
yeah allied democratic force is the way to go.

>>34709075
what branch?

>>34709643

My mistake.

ASVAB 86 isn't great, but the breakdown is more telling
than the composite score. Maybe you aren't highly
mechanical, but you have top scores elsewhere.
Either way, a Bachelors degree with solid gpa(3.5+)
goes a long way. Depends on your major and what field
and branch you are going into.

>>34709512
Pretty sure SLRP is only for enlistees. Some branches don't even have SLRP funded anymore.

>>34706340
>How shitty is life on a navy ship for a 6'6" person?

Hope you got a hard head

>>34709670
Thanks, I'll keep on prepping.

>pop was military
>he tells me to stay away
>try to go to college
>end up enlisting anyways
Fuck you faggots, I shouldn't be here

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I keep hearing getting caught having sex in AIT can get you kicked out, is that true? I mean it can't be that easy to get caught....I can't imagine no one has sex, especially in the longer AITs...

http://www.strawpoll.me/13580540/r

>>34708454
They dont have the legal right to pursue anything you dont let them, but they can reject you if they see something.

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>>34708454
>>34708570
Basically it says "appointment made with BHC" since I was scared I would not be able to enlist due to the injury, and referred to talk to a counselor.
He immediately gave me a minor Depression diagnosis without telling me, as a result of me being upset over a leg injury, and it turns out that diagnoses is a SHITLOAD worse than the injury ever could have been, even as minor as it is.

Is it possible MEPS can see it, and basically throw it out as "he wasn't even really depressed, no waiver needed" type of shit I've heard of?

I kinda wanna just get 300 grand from service then draw/invest for the rest of my days. Thatd take 15 years at private pay.

Im p blind outside of that. I really just wanna avoid discharge in that time, so I assume i'd have to continually climb in usefulness. I assume learning a language will only get me so far.

>>34707128
My recruiter says I can pick a date to go to boot and still not be obligated to go until 2 months before

>>34710608
If you're down to do 15, may as well do 20 and get the pension too.

I took my asvab not to long ago and i got a 49, is it a bad score

>>34711108
Is that the test with math and stiry questions? If so 49 is terribad. Go brush up on your college algebra, you can do it free online.

The hardest thing i even saw was multiplicating trinomials and there wasnt even a denominator.

>>34711108
the marines will accept you.
i mean they don't need to know about algebra.

>>34707064
>PT IS LIFE
But every enlisted member in any branch is forced to say that.

>>34706340
>How bad is it to lie at MEPS

If everyone was 100% honest at MEPS, there would be no military.

>>34706669
That is true though.

Find me a better US armed services branch with better camo than MARPAT. It's so effective that the Marines have it copyrighted to the point where the Army adopted that retarded universal camo.

>>34707039
So you're saying if I want to be a Chad then the Marines are the way to go?

Anyone from ADF Intel who can give a small description of what the job is like? I know there is security issues etc which will prevent you from such, but I'm just wondering if there is any information you can disclose. Looking at applying with a Bachelors in Government and International Relations with a focus in East Asia and Counter terrorism classes. Would that help?

>>34707064
Don't act like at least 45% of that doesn't apply to the Army as well.

However, I have personally seen an Infantry Marine start shit with who I later found out was a Green Beret and got the absolute shit stomped out of him.

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>>34710393
What do you mean the legal right?
Does the HIPAA waiver you sign not count until after you swear in or something?
I was told they need a judge to approve it, or something, but it is really unclear to me what all this works like legally.

>>34706573
>furries
>>34706555
>leftists

AF is actually borderline infested with evangelical loons, google it

>>34709325
??? so 35F / 35M need more than just hit the score on ASVAB? what'd you get rejected for or were you going for officer??

>>34711108
seems really bad, below 50 means you are stupider then the kids in the 90's they based the scoring off of

what was your line score breakdown? did you do bad everywhere or were there a few areas you just don't know shit about

>>34712499
yea, i really struggled with anything math related
i did decent on everything else tho

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Has anyone here done MEG or know someone who has?
Most of the stuff I read online says it's boring depending on where you're assigned, but that they all had fun during their time off.
My recruiter told me that this is the first time they're opening it up for people just getting out of boot camp and put it on my list of top contracts because an MCSF contract wasn't available and that was the next best thing.
Thanks in advance for any replies.

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I have gingavitus. I should probably tell pems.

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Question for nattyguards: Do you get montly pay during the initial BCT/AIT? Also, for desk job MOS's, what do you do during the monthly weekend training?

>>34714184

Another thing, natty guard enlistment contract says 3-6 years on the website. If i go to college during that period of contract, am i able to join programs like ROTC/OTS/PLC with another branch during the remainder of the natty guard contract?

>>34708993
I think they just don't want you to call them anymore

>>34707317
you can actually sign a contract and still not be legally obligated to ship. Once you arrive at basic is when you become part of whatever branch you're joining.

>>34714184
yeah you get paid the same as everyone else going through basic training/AIT

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HOW DO I SAVE SOMEONE FROM A DEPENDA?!?

Guy I went through training with just proposed to his girlfriend, of SIX FUCKING WEEKS after leaving his girlfriend of 4 years. They are getting married next Wednesday. This is an emergency!!! Who do I pay off to get him tasked with an ultra short notice deployment?! Can I just drop him off at another base and explain the situation to have them take him in??

>>34714612
>getting married after 6 weeks of dating
>I've never even had two dates
how the fuck do people do this

>>34714612
oh shit

>>34714612
buy him a hooker and tell the dependa about him fucking the hooker.
bonus points if you get the hambeast to walk in while he's doing the deed.

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>>34714634
He went out drinking after his ex wouldn't drop out of college to move across the country to marry him, picked up a landwhale, "we in love" said in a deep Georgian accent, realized he had his true love here and didn't need her to drop anything (as she would not be able to pick it up) and proposed to her. She advised doing it quick so they COULDN'T HAVE SECOND THOUGHTS.

>>34714639
NOT HELPING ASSHOLE

>>34714643
Hambeast doesn't begin to describe her, I honestly believe that her weight could be used to describe young whales. If she's not above the max weight for most scales, I'll eat my boots. This has promise, I just need to get him drunk enough and find a lot lizard that's willing to go for a drive to his place.

>>34714698
>picked up a landwhale
Why. Why would you pick up somebody already with no sense of self control, as well as somebody who is fat? Have some standards.

My standards may be too high, which is why I've only gone on one date, but goddammit have some fucking standards. Fat chicks are never to be messed with.

>>34714698
Tell him that he's going to lose everything if the marriage goes south. Spoiler: it will. Then he's going to be back in the barracks and she'll be taking half of his paychecks.

>>34714698
howd the fuck did this happen, it seems like your friend is fuck. but like the other anon said find him a hooker to smash

>>34714698
You know what the call people who get married before they ship? Future divorcees.

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>>34714728
No, well maybe yours are too high, but holy fuck, first time I saw her I thought it was joke, she's not "THICC", she's a few grams of fat from being legally classified as lard.

>>34714737
We've tried that, we've tried showing him the poor fucks who drink themselves away every night. That was during the day though, while working, I might have to bring him by and drop him off at the crustiest, saltiest motherfucker's room and have him drink for a night with them while they bitch about their ex taking everything.

>>34714738
Fuck, at this point I think it's the only option. Okay, so we go out drinking to celebrate, a guy's night out, I find the cheapest whore I can find and have her go with him, see if I can rouse Moby Dick's long lost sister to the motel with the promise of grilled meats, then have her find him. It's the best I've got since THE FUCKER GAVE US SUCH SHORT NOTICE OF HIM FLUSHING HIS LIFE DOWN THE DRAIN. If I didn't owe him one for not letting me walk into the exposed wires in a puddle that I may have exposed in the first place I'd let him do it, but I know I would fucking feel guilty later.

Hey I have a few questions for you all. I intend to enlist this spring, and I'm not sure what mos I should try to go for, read a bit on 19D and 12B, they seem interesting enough, any recommendations? Also if I wanted to try for the Rangers would I have to get something on the contract correct?

>>34714916
>Also if I wanted to try for the Rangers would I have to get something on the contract correct?
Yes, get Option 40 put in your contract.

Also, I believe that 19D doesn't have any Rangers spots. I could be wrong though.

How bad is it to mildly alter and reprint medical paperwork before turning it in? Basically just remove a few lines to cut off the string pull effect.

I feel it's either benign and whatever, or entirely fucking stupid.

>>34712350
Yeah, but how bad is it if you get caught?

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>>34706306

Oh look it's another dying for Israel thread

>>34709823
It's up to your commander but yes it can get you kicked out. But in my MOS, 68W, everyone was fucking each other. The people that got kicked out were because they failed the course tests or did some other dumb shit off post. Shit some people find their wives/husbands at AIT.

>>34715254
They can legally toss you in jail and abscond all of your pay

>>34715167
So if I don't get option 40 on contract I could not attempt to join rangers? Isn't it like a school/course then you get moved to a ranger unit or am I mistaken? Also what is 12B like?

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>>34715269

>>34715277
I've literally never heard of anyone actually getting tossed in jail, that's more of their money to spend. Having to pay back your pay, sure, but every story I heard of anecdotally, where people got caught, they either stayed in service somehow or got let off easy with a general discharge.

>>34715287
Okay, there are two schools in the Army with Ranger in the title. The one you're thinking of is called Ranger Assessment and Selection Program, or RASP for short. If you get an Option 40 on your enlistment contract, you will go to whatever training is needed for your MOS, then Airborne school, the RASP. If you complete RASP, then you are assigned to the 75th Ranger Regiment, a member of SOCOM.
Once you arrive at your battalion, in 6 months to a year (depending on your physical shape and which battalion you're assigned to) you may get to go to Ranger school. Ranger School is a 61 day long leadership course that only gets you the tab, it doesn't have anything to do with the 75th Ranger Regiment besides being staffed by them.
If you don't get an Option 40 on your contract, you can apply for RASP while you're in the Army. It would take a while to find a RASP slot though, as more slots are given to new recruits than people already in the Army.
I don't know much about 12b, but the Ranger regiment does have 12b's in it. No 19ds though.

>>34709325
What the fuck are you talking about? Your GPA has nothing to do with enlisting Intel. You either didn't score high enough GT or you couldn't get a security clearance. If you were commissioning you don't get to choose your field.

>>34715387
can we talk a little more about clearance?

i've got one cc fuckup and student loans that are in arrears, no six figure shit, total debt is under $40k. I'm going to work on doing what i can to clear that up but I worry about how much of a red flag that might seem. is that the sort of thing i should feel comfortable asking a recruiter about?

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>>34714799
Man, at the end of the day, it's high decision to make. He will make a very very terrible one, but it will be the only way he will learn.

Know this: you are a great friend and your attempts to keep him from harm is commendable, but at the end of the day, if this is something he feels like he really wants to do and you try to step in the way then you're just going to foster resentment and lose that friend. I would encourage you to tell him "I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I would highly encourage you to think long and hard about it."

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>tfw rolled my ankle while hiking just in time for my IST
Just fuck my shit up.

>>34714612
Legally, the military cannot stop you from marrying someone. If it could, we would save millions in dependent costs and child support.

That said, find your unit's crustiest 1SG type divorced guy who's paying child support/alimony, and let him have at your friend. Do it after work, with alcohol for the full effect.
Those guys will make almost anyone doubt getting married, ever. Take him to visit the destroyed souls on Friday night, explain to him that this is his future.

You can try to do things to discourage her, but remember, she doesn't see him as a husband. She sees him as a guaranteed meal ticket to Golden Corral, daily. She knows that if she locks him down, especially with a kid or two, that she will be set for life. The point of all that is to say that showing him cheating or something probably won't phase her, since she's just a big sow, and he's the endless feeding trough.

>>34715347
Thank you!

>>34708454
MEPS has no investigative capability. Meaning MEPS itself will not pursue the paperwork trail but will request that you bring them "all medical documentation" regarding whatever was mentioned on the paperwork before you can be cleared.

>>34715183
I'm also curious about this.

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>>34706306
So I got cucked out of the military pretty hard earlier this year
Long story short my dream job since I was able to understand it I wanted to be in any branch of the military
But I got diagnosed with depression at a young age and even though I show no symptoms I'm on meds to this day cause why risk it
I told the AF recruiter and he essentially told me to fuck off, and did my research and if they find out I lied I'll be on a one way ticket to prison.
So basically all the 7 months post rejection have sucked, I dropped out of college and basically listlessly floating through life and any time anyone asks me what I want to do with my life or what my passion is, I have to tell them I cant do it now
Now I'm kindof reaching the point of I'm equally pissed off I cant fulfill a life goal aswell as pissed off something stupid as being an angsty teenager once upon a time is holding me back to this day.
Every day I think about going down to the Army or Navy recruiters and just redoing the process but telling them absolutely nothing. Will they actually be able to pull records or even just have my shit from the air force recruiter on file?
Am I well and truly fucked?
What if I somehow get my shit together and try for OCS after another shot at college?

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>>34706306

I have a good grasp of language, both written and oral, I can speak well publicly, I have a good knowledge of both geography both physical and cultural in addition to history.

I want to go to far off lands, meet new people [spoiler]and kill them and beat them within inches of their miserable lives. I wish to prosecute the enemies of our nation and leave them both scarred and broken in mind, body and spirit. The ability to do enhanced interrogation would be a big plus,
because then I'd have the opportunity to manipulate and abuse lesser human beings.[/spoiler]

What MOS best suits me?

>>34715905
"six figure shit" that is current looks better than 40k delinquent, if that's what you are asking. Yes having shitty credit will cost you a clearance as it's the #1 reason application are denied.

I really want to go to Japan.
Should I join Army or Air Force?
Would one do I have a better chance of going to Japan for?

I'd be doing electric shit since I got an 80 on the asvab for AF, and 78 in electric area.

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So I met with a dumb bitch of a social worker who said I had depression and anxiety after a 5 minute online questionnaire. I met with her because my doctor said my heart palpitations could be due to anxiety (surprise, they weren't, I had low vit D and therefore low calcium and my heart was all fucked up because I never went outside or ate something besides ramen in school). Anyhow, this sow said that I had these things, but I was never officially diagnosed, as it was a free consultation. If there's no official diagnosis, do I need to say yes to the question on the enlistment papers concerning anxiety and depression?

How do I answer this one?
>16. Seen a psychiatrist, psychologist, social worker, counselor or other professional for any reason (inpatient or outpatient) including counseling or treatment for school, adjustment, family, marriage or any other problem, to include depression, or treatment for alcohol, drug or substance abuse
Please advise.

>>34717431
I've been in medical document hell for the past year.
A different recruiter told me "if it isn't submitted to MEPS, they won't ever know about it"
Sadly I was honest before with a different recruiter before that and have been submitting stupid small shit for the past year.

>>34717431
Don't say shit to them. There's no way for them to actually check, and it'll only fuck up your chances if you tell them.

>>34717463
Was this a recruiter with a different branch by chance?

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Do navy ships have ac?

Do army tents have ac?

>>34717504
Indeed. Army and Navy both pretty much told me 'Don't tell them anything'

On a related note.
Has anyone else noticed Air Force recruiters are a lot more harsh and mean?
I've seen every single branch once or twice. And every other branch contacted me a lot and really tried to recruit me and were often really nice.
But Air Force recruiters never contact me afterwards.

>>34717522
Generators exist you know.

>>34706573

I live 3 rooms down from a gay furry. So maybe, or the other branches just hides it better. But it's 2017 and the AF has to be PC as fuck.

>>34709219
>>34709258
>>34709264

I just wanted to clarify.

My buddy loved his job, but after 8 years they didn't want him anymore.
He committed suicide early this year before he was discharged.
So go ahead. Just have something waiting for you before you get out.

>>34717539
70% sure you need a SPF. It's a document that transfers ownership of your docs from branch to branch.

Half of recruiters don't know this and will waste months and months sending shit to MEPS only for it to get kicked back without getting told why. Mine wasted 1.5 years of my life doing this until he was replaced with a competent recruiter.

>>34717522
AF tents have AC.
>>34717189
If you enjoy languages I'd look into 35M, it's the interrogator MOS and can be done without a language in case you fail DLI (like a scrub).

>>34717539
Air Force recruiters don't care as much because people are lining up to join so they never have to worry about hitting quotas.

>>34717539
Yuuuup
I literally hounded my af recruiter every day and only once got him to pick up his phone

>>34717570
>70% sure you need a SPF
What's that? That will make me pass the kickback BS?
You switched branches? I still was wanting to do AF.
Would love to keep talking to you about this.

>>34717596
>Air Force recruiters don't care as much because people are lining up to join so they never have to worry about hitting quotas.
That's what I thought. Like, I have to do all the communicating for AF, but I started talking to some other branches and they actually make me feel valuable.

who do i join to get paid n get laid

>>34717618
I remember talking to like some guy who came from basic saying he bugged his recruiter a lot too.
Has it always been like this, or is this a recent thing? My buddy joined a couple years ago and said his AF recruiter was awesome.
When you finally went to MEPS did you still have to bug him or did he tell you shit more?
I imagine when you finally are done with the recruiters things get better?

>>34717630
A SPF (pronounced 'spiff') is recruiter lingo that does what I said. It's a document that will change ownership of all your docs from one branch to another. I was Marines and processed with the Army, so the Army was sending shit to MEPS forever and nothing was happening. Army didn't know why and just told me to be patient. New recruiter got cycled it, knew immediately the problem was I needed a SPF because the Marines still owned my docs. It was fixed within a week.

I don't know your exact situation but I would look into it.

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>>34717084
Did the recruiter have your SSN? If yes, he CAN mark you down for what you said on the computers, to your SSN. If you turned in the pre-screen form and it said all that, MEPS has it on file forever and you can't hide it.

If No to both, I'd wager you could lie your butt off and possibly even get in the same service from another recruiting office.

They want your body, they just don't want the paperwork, being a recruiter is miserable I've heard.
Don't take my word for it all, though, I'm just a lurker applicant.

>>34717431
I am also in med document hell at the moment, please just lie. It isn't fucking official and even if you go for Top Secret Clearance I highly doubt they'd find it. That said, look over your whole medical history and play connect-the-dots in case it becomes relevant in the future.

>>34717739
Used my ssn
But I never even got close to MEPS
Didnt even make it to asvab

>>34717692
Similar shit except I'd like to stay in the branch I am trying to join. Which is Air Force.
I gave the hopefully final paper to AF that should be all I need I think.
It was going to the medical team forever, then finally passed to CMO who wanted one (final?) thing.

If it isn't, I might just transfer to Army.

When you said it was fixed in a week, does that mean you didn't need more documents and were able to join after that?

Just got my contract for AF Munitions. How fucked am I?

>>34717739
>Did the recruiter have your SSN? If yes, he CAN mark you down for what you said on the computers, to your SSN. If you turned in the pre-screen form and it said all that, MEPS has it on file forever and you can't hide it.
I had this happen to me when I tried to transfer branches, had to try to get the same shit the other branch wanted.

>>34717739
>I am also in med document hell at the moment, please just lie. It isn't fucking official and even if you go for Top Secret Clearance I highly doubt they'd find it. That said, look over your whole medical history and play connect-the-dots in case it becomes relevant in the future.
The only "nice" thing about when we get through this bullshit is that we have nothing to hide when we go to MEPs since we had nothing hid.

>>34717753
Did you ever send in any medical documents?

How competitive is Marine combat arms?

>>34717802
Nope
Just signed the first couple of regular docs and answered yes to the depression thing
So my hope is that the AF barely has that shit in the computers and all I need to do is go to the army or navy and not have it even pulled up

>>34717847
Did you ever take meds for depression/did you admit you did?
I don't think depression is that bad, but if you took meds for it, that's a lot worse.

If they never sent anything to MEPs, then I would think you should be fine to do any branch.

>>34717764
>When you said it was fixed in a week, does that mean you didn't need more documents and were able to join after that?


Pretty much.


All I know, is if you'd processed with different recruiters from different branches these need to be done. I would at least ask your recruiter about it and he's seems ignorant, his boss.

>>34717802
What waivers did you need?

>>34717884
I took meds but dont anymore
I dont believe he did anything for meps other than call the doc and asked about what was needed about depression
He said they needed full documents and I wasnt likely to get in

>>34717900
>waivers
Every time I needed to find something for MEPs he told me "Idk, go figure it out"
They just wanted documents, but would kick it back every time going "Ooh ya we want this thing too"
It wouldn't be as bad if they just said EVERYTHING they needed at once.

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Is Infantry worth it? If so which branch is better, Army or Marines? Also how hard is it to go Special Operations in either?

>>34714799
>>34714698
>>34714514

This poster >>34716286
is correct. Make sure the plan can't backfire. If she walks in on him fucking a hooker, she won't be bothered but she will use that fact to her advantage to keep him on an even shorter leash after she "forgives" him and they get married. Then he'll be even more of a pussywhipped slave

>>34717925
Well what did they want to know about?

>>34717929
My brother is Infantry inthe Army
Literally all he has to do is stay in shape and eventually do a training exercise every couple of weeks or so
Not really anything they do as a daily job when not out in combat deployment

>>34717892
>I would at least ask your recruiter about it and he's seems ignorant, his boss.
I've always been scared to try to go above him because I figured who are they going to care about, me or this dude who has been here for 5+ years.
I don't want to piss off my recruiter.

>All I know, is if you'd processed with different recruiters from different branches these need to be done
I haven't processed anything except with AF.
Although almost did with Army. I was told if I transferred from AF to Army though, I couldn't go back to AF.

>>34717961
Mostly about all my really small ER visits.
There medical team also misread something about a drug I took in the hospital and I had to highlight and circle it before they thought it was something real bad, when it reality it was something that does FUCKING NUMBING.
These fuckers are medical experts too.

Is there any way to get a better chance to ensure the location you are sent to your job for?
Really wanna visit Europe or some shit.

Would being a navy SWO during peacetime be less terrible than being an army or marine infantry officer during peacetime?

What is the chance that an SWO has to get a TS clearance before 4 years?

>>34717084
i was all on board with just denying everything but i wasn't going to bother lying about going to a children's councilor back when i was 9-10 after parents divorced. never on meds. just talked w/ some lady and played with this sandbox and hella toys.
this anon got fucked bc
>meds
>still on meds
right??????

>>34717500
i this my new plan, fuck all this, but in the back of my mind the potential for a polygraph worries me i guess
>>34717739
>look over your medical history
welp gonna have to google how to do that lol, i don't even have a regular doctor since i was a little kid

>>34718023
Every story about MEPS and so far my experiences tells me they are almost entirely civilian sector rejects doing the same job for decades and so long they're out of touch with anything they actually learned in the past, on top of being government robots.

>>34706306
I've heard corpsman is a difficult rate to get, if I try to get it and fail are they just going to give me somw shit tier maintenance job?

>>34718044

On your dream sheet only volunteer for one command. If you want to go to Europe only volunteer for European bases, period. If you pick a base in one command and a base in another that's considered to be volunteering for global assignment.

>>34718109
>meds
Pfm
I was a total loser in highschool and basically hated everything, my parents freaked the fuck out because obviously depression
So i've basically just been going to the doc once a month ever since to keep their paranoid asses happy
To be honest though I dont even take the pills anymore, havent for a couple years now

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>>34718133
>choose bases in germany and japan
>get shipped to iraq

>>34718120
Yeah it's been horrible. I bet every fucker who went though medical records hell is looking forward to basic.
I want to go to basic training so fucking bad.

>>34718133
Not that anon, but what about Japan? There are only 3 bases for like every branch there.
Should I put Japan, and then the rest put Europe places?

I don't want to put it for China or South Korea, but North Korea makes me nervous for South Korea.

>>34718167

Yup. Hawaii is the one that gets most people.

>>34718190

Can you read? Do you think that Japan, part of Pacific command, is the same command as Europe?

>>34718190
>>I don't want to put it for China or South Korea, but North Korea makes me nervous for South Korea.
Then don't join the military

>>34718208
I'm retarded and didn't know Japan was park of the Pacific command.
I guess I will probably have myself as 'global' since I do want to travel to somewhere cool maybe.

>>34717802
I'm in med document hell because I wasn't told about a depression/adjustment disorder diagnosis in any capacity until I began the enlistment process, and found it in my paperwork. Paper trails from some other things I reported prior to knowing about the diagnoses reference it.
The best part is the job I want doesn't let you get it even with waivered mental diagnoses so I'm trying to do every possible thing to sidestep it or get it listed misdiagnosed or something. It was more Grief than Depression by far.

>>34718474
>found in my paperwork
care to elaborate? what paperwork and where did it come from and why did they want it?

>>34718474
Similar situation actually... what type of job won't let you do it?

I had counseling as a kid for seeing a dumb pet die and they want stuff on it.
I recently saw a counselor for an evaluation because I don't have the old info on it.
Counselor said I am fine and fit to join the military.
So hopefully the CMO reading it fines that to be enough and let's me join.

What do they want you to fix anyways? Like what do you even need next?
Could you just see a counselor to fix it? (I can't say if it works yet myself)

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>>34718067
Navy SWO job doesn't change cause navy ships deploy no matter what. If your ship goes to the middle east or not is up in the air but youll almost definitely deploy so itll be fun. And you may need a TS depending on the division youre assigned to.
>>34718126
Not hard at all, whoever said that lied.
>>34717522
>Do navy ships have ac?
Yes but its sketchy at best.

>>34717373
Neither, join the navy and if you voluinteer youre 99% guaranteed to get to japan.

>people talking about medical document hell
Theme song of everyone who is/was through it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY-CeeQLCE4

>>34718658
Any online search finds its an overstaffed position

>>34717680
Not the guy you're replying to, but I called various AF recruitment numbers for about two weeks before I talked to a human being, who told me she would take my information down and a local recruiter would contact me. Finally a week later an actual recruiter called and left a voicemail. Called him back on a Sunday because I was tired of waiting, and then we texted over a couple days before he asked for my email. I asked if I could set up a meeting with him but he told me I needed to fill out a prescreen packet first, so after I submitted that it took 3 weeks for him to get back to me. Apparently he had been out of state, and then was sent somewhere else for training. Finally another recruiter emailed me two weeks ago asking for copies of personal documents, but I haven't heard from him since I submitted everything.
I started all this at the beginning of June and I still haven't met with anyone in person yet. They move at a glacial pace.

>>34718580
>>34718609

Was retarded and pressured by Gunny to do pre-screen on short notice without a chance to check my actual records. Filled out stuff that came to mind as benign old injuries, and family counseling that didn't actually happen it turned out. MEPS wanted 'all counseling' and 'all X injury'.
I check, senpai counseling wasn't there. Turns out my family says I misremembered treatment center visits that were NOT counseling as that, just visiting family in there.
I did have a recommendation to talk to a counselor after I was hurt and afraid it'd kill my military career dreams on top of relationshit issues, doc said to go get my feels out.
Counselor person in knowing me for under an hour, and knowing I was in fear of losing career potential due to an injury, gives me a diagnosis far worse than the injury, and doesn't let me know ever, till I stumble on it years later. The dang documents about the injury itself which I fully recovered from mention it.
At the very least I have hope I'd get a waiver because my med documents reflect a constant and vocal desire to enlist.

>>34718766
>talking through AF recruiters via electric communication
This sounds fucking awful.
Why don't you go to the office itself?

>>34718775
So at the moment you are just trying to get a waiver? or what?

It's comforting know people are going through similar stuff, but because it's so awful I also feel bad for everyone going through it.
I hope we can all make it.

>>34718775
Oh also, MOS 5811, field MP doesn't allow anyone with more than 0 mental health diagnoses.
I hadn't a clue till a little bit before I found the documents. So even if I get a waiver, I could be fucked as far as what is by far my top current choice. (PS I would do everything I could to not be a blue falcon rat bastard MP)

>>34706399
absolutely the fuck not

>>34706399
I thought SOI was a prerequisite

>>34718803
>field MP doesn't allow anyone with more than 0 mental health diagnoses.
How do you find this stuff out? They tell you or you googled?
I imagine tech careers wouldn't be an issue right ?

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>>34718823
How hard is Recon

>>34712366
>Marines have it copyrighted
After copying it from the Canadians

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>>34718760
Ohhh when you said difficult I thought you meant like ti was tough and the drop out rate was high because you said if I try and fail.
As far as manning ya standard HM is overmanned.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/enlisted/community/medical/Documents/JULY%202017%20HM%20NEC%20MANNING%20SNAPSHOT.pdf
But fmf and especially SARC looks undermanned so if you are billy badass you could try that.

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>only two branches that really interest me are Navy and the Marines
>scored 99 on ASVAB
>both branches have the job that I want to do

My mind tells me that the Navy is a smarter choice but my heart is telling me to join the Corps. Does the branch really make that much difference when it comes to the job you're performing?

>>34718789
I'm pretty tempted to just show up and ask to talk to someone, but /k/ recommended that people email or call first, which made sense to me. Problem is it's ANG so there are only a few recruiters who cover it, and I think they're active duty USAF who also recruit for ANG, so my guess is they prioritize active duty USAF applicants over plebeian ANG applicants. I think there are only 3 offices in the whole state that cover nasty girls, even though there's a regular AF recruiter a mile away from me. I'll just keep sending emails every couple days until I get a reply, and if that doesn't work I'll just leave voicemails on the recruiter's boss' phone until he tells the recruiter to call me so I'll fuck off

>>34718609
so all you did was mention you saw a councilor, no meds no diagnosis? and the result was a full stop unless you could document that?

>>34718879
>dat pdf
I'd kill to see the army version of that

>>34719000
Yep. That's 100% what happened.
I never took meds or anything.
It was/currently is retarded.

>>34718898
If you're thinking that deep about it already, you're not going to like Marine Basic Training or AIT, or the job probably

>>34719049
I've been a bodybuilder for 6 years if that helps at all. 95 crunches in 2 minutes, 16 pull ups, and a 1.5 mile in 10:52

>>34718835
Google initially, which I didn't mind since I figured it would not be an issue. I planned everything around it.
Gunny mentioned it's harder to get too, "can't have any mental health or legal issues" as if to say 'cover it up, it's stupid' almost.

>>34719000
Different anon, but I reviewed the MEPS standards and IIRC it says all counseling that isn't 'marriage counseling, grief counseling or' some other type I forget must have the documentation available for med read or a statement from someone saying they don't exist/destroyed.

>>34718898
Consider where Navy/Marine bases are stationed and if the job will get you a place you find appealing.

>>34718851
If it were easy it wouldn't be a big deal, would it? If you think you're a bad enough dude, then go for it and goood luck man.

>>34719073
Would I want to look at the units specific to what my occupation will be, or is that something else entirely?

>>34719073
>isn't 'marriage counseling, grief counseling
Uh... what other kind of counseling is there?

>>34719073
I'm >>34718609
I should be good, because my pet death should count as a grief right?

>>34719061
That doesn't change anything in my opinion. Many walk in scrawny in all branches and end up in your shoes before AIT. You're obviously a thinker, not a dooer, Marines say Yessir without thinking, Navy isn't quite so

>>34718120
Everyone at my MEPS was alright except the doctors themselves. The first was an old hag, absolutely humorless. Missed the paperwork that was in my file she was looking for. The second was for the calisthenics section, she had to check with me personally about a med issue and asked me some questions. I didn't know the technical jargon and I didn't want to falsely fuck myself over so I said "I dunno ma'am" unless I knew for sure. She put up a bit of a stink about it. Also totally humorless older woman.

>>34719061
Funny as it sounds, being a bodybuilder may hurt you. And you'll probably lose much of your muscle mass in basic.

>>34719238
Fuck, that's disquieting. Is there any way to limit that loss?

Still never really got a straight answer
Never sent snything to MEPS for my AF recruiter, if I go to the Navy recruiter and lie about depression will they be able to pull the basic info I submitted to the AF? Also will they just pull medical records if I choose MP or Corpsman?

>>34719245
No.

>>34717084
Try a different branch or recruiter. I tried joining one branch a few years ago and was denied. I joined another branch a few years later with some slightly different answers and everything was A okay.

>>34719245
Maybe. Probably not. Just look at it this way, for 3 months you'll be doing lots of running and no weightlifting. Estimate from there.

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>>34718898
Definitely, also whats the job?
>>34719027
Army doesn't have good analytics? For shame
>>34719253
Chances are they wont know dude. There is no giant medical record database. Plus what do you got to lose? Just lie like you should've done in the first place.
>>34719245
Nigger listen, if youre natty being a BBer doesn't mean anything. What are your compound lift numbers that's whats important. 16 pull ups is pretty shitty and so is your 1.5 mile time. Chances are youre nowhere near as in shape as you think.

>>34719285
$10,000 is what i have to lose

>>34719285
I want to do Intelligence as my #1, but I also really like to write, so I think something public affairs-related would be right up my alley.

Haven't heard from the recruiting centre.
Pretty sure I'm getting medically disqualified

>>34719285
>16 pull ups is pretty shitty
In the Navy you don't have to even do them. So go navy :^)

>>34719308
>Haven't heard
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>>34719285
>What are your compound lift numbers that's whats important.

235 bench, 315 squat, 385 deadlift w/ belt and grip.

>>34719327
How many pushups can you do in 2 minutes?

>>34719319
I'm going to call but I don't think it's looking good

>>34719340
Without stopping and with perfect form? 50, easily.

>>34719354
Then here's my advice to you: get better at pushups and do more running. Especially do more running. Navy minimum is 1.5 miles in 10 minutes flat and that's MINIMUM.

>>34719345
Just call. The worst they can say is "you're done". That's better than not knowing. Then you may even got a shot at a waiver.

>>34719396
Will do. Thanks for the advice!

>>34719412
You're welcome! Really run, run, run. Any random day they could make you run several miles for no reason at all.

MEPS says I'll be allowed to join in November. Should I die waiting for 17C or just pick 35T and leave right away? I work in IT now but I would like to move into cyber security with a job like 17C.

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>>34719294
Hows that?
>>34719298
Wait you want intelligence and youre thinking marines? Nigger this isn't a meme but Marine intel is a gigantic joke. Go navy CTN, its the best intel job in the military.
>>34719327
>>34719354
>>34719412
That faggot replying to you wasn't me. Your stats aren't that good, stop doing faggy BB routines and do a strength routine. You must be fat if you can bench 235 and only do 50 pushups.
>>34719396
>>34719437
Yo are you in the NAVY? Cause unless its changed since I got out that run time is 100% wrong. Who told you it was 10 min flat minimum?

>>34719465

>Marine intel is a gigantic joke

He doesn't know that the shiz is counterintel yet anon. Give him time.

>>34719089
Search as in depth as you want, it's years of your life in the making, or gamble. I figure the information is out there somewhere, or someone you can find who has the knowledge/access to it. IE how Marine tankers all pretty much end up at 29 Palms far as I know.

>>34719137
Probably depends on the document wordage, I'm not sure how this would workout myself. I only saw it in a MEPS document I hunted down on google, but I have to find it in my history before I can say for sure in quotations. I think it was a Navy related site.

Im stupid and just recently enlisted. I feel like a pubk for even googling the requirements for things like the green berets. Whats a more realistic specialty/division to get that might land me there?

If their reqs are cia sad tier than i cannot physically get in due to some past dirt o assume.

>>34719442
Wait. It's 4 years of your life and all the skills that come with them that will help you get into cybersecurity after.

>>34719571
when i almost got in 17c it was 5 years i had to sign up

>>34719465
Oh shit you're right (run time anon here). "Excellent" is 1.5 mile 10 minutes flat for males age 20-24. 13 minutes is the minimum below 5000 feet.

Sorry bodybuilder bro. Just setting a high standard for you :)

>>34719680
3 7m miles is good jv for a 5k, 3 6:30 miles is normal varsity for a 5k.

A varsity track athlete could prpbably do a 9 minute 1.5m, but you would have to be lean.

>>34719791
>A varsity track athlete could prpbably do a 9 minute 1.5m, but you would have to be lean
???
Dude not sure what fat camp HS you went to but a varsity track athlete could blow that away.

>>34715183
Pls respond.
I'm getting the feeling it would be fine given that any old printer could have made copies, and if all the documents are produced on the same paper it wouldn't stick out much.
But also, it's kind of more illegal than just regular lying I figure.

>>34706555
>job is literally a dice roll
but isn't that everything but the army?
also what is national guard like, worth it or will AD shit on you all the time and make your weekend duty hell?

>>34720249
>but isn't that everything but the army
With the other branches you can wait for a slot to open up in your job, sign for a specific job at MEPS. When you get to MEPS in the Air force they have you wrote down 10 jobs you want and they choose what to give you from those 10.

>tfw somebody told me the minimum asvab score for the Coast Guard was 70
>ask him where he heard that bullshit because it's 40
>"How can it be 40 when the minimum for the Fucking marines is 50?"
>"this is what the people who manage the asvab told me so let's see your ''''''''''source''''''''' "
Just laughed and didn't respond


How can some people be this retarded?

>>34717669
becum boipucci in the navy

Which branch has the most cute shy girls?

>>34720354
Isn't it 30 for all except Navy which is 50?

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>>34720844
Ta-dah

>>34718109
The won't ask med shit on any polygraph, if you last sought out mental health treatment more than 7 years ago, you won't even have to disclose it on the SF- 86

Did this hit the bump limit?