Would this suit really save your life if a bomb blew up in your

better to have than want

>>34670361
No not really, but better than nothing or regular uniform desu though.

>>34670361
why do they still use these when we actually have robots

>>34670361

you know what OP... You don't need it next time you need to disarm a bomb just freeball it NUGGA

>>34670386
in case robot side with bomb

>>34670403
This is the correct answer

>>34670403
But what if the defusal guy sides with the bomb too? I'm pretty sure humans are easier to convince than machines

>>34670361
no. but if you get a a short distance away it can easily save your life

>>34670361
It's mostly designed to try to prevent closed-casket funerals and, failing that, keep all the pieces in one package to ship home easier.

Yeah, but your friends will call you 'Stumpy'.

>>34670361
they are better to have on then nothing though i know a liveleak is floating around of one guy getting blown to shit in one

>>34670361
So that they have a body to bury instead of scraping fat on the floor.

http://www.eod-gear.com/bomb-suit/
You can operate on a whole nother level

I can't think of a situation where it would be preferable to send an actual guy to defuse a bomb by hand rather than poke it full of holes with a Barrett from far away. Can someone enlighten me? How could it possibly be worth the risk?

Also, to state the obvious there isn't any fucking way a bomb suit would save your life for anything bigger than a hand grenade.

>>34670482
Came here to post this
It just gives your family something to bury

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>>34670569
Pic related placement, or bombs that have chemical or biological payloads are generally not good candidates for "shoot it with a .50 till it goes boom"

>>34670569
Well, lets say that the bomb isnt in the middle of nowhere and insted is somewhere like timesquere. Also you dont know when its going to explode. Now what?

>>34670386
If you've ever had anything to do with those robots you'd know they'd never work reliably.

>>34670403
10/10

>>34670810

>why the fuck were they programmed to be left handed?

>>34670569
Collateral damage. That said there's a neato thing that I've forgotten the name of that's pretty much an exploding water cannon. It's designed to just blast the explosive in half (usually the power supply) without either setting the explosive off or requiring human interaction.

>>34670403
holy shit

>>34670801
I wonder if that suit construction is even on par with the US ones (presuming it's different; it does look different). If you go frame by frame, you can see the suit stripped off of him (on the arms; his arms spread out 2 frames later but seem attached?).

Still doubt he survived and I doubt any suit construction would save that guy.

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>bomb thread
obligatory read
https://www.damninteresting.com/the-zero-armed-bandit/

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>>34671023

>>34670801
>all those idiots standing around filming it

>>34671309
What else can they do?

my name is cuban pete
the king of the rumba beat
when i shake my maracas they go
chick chicky boom chick chicky

>>34670361
How would one of these fair against a smaller explosive, like a hand grenade?

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>>34671334
boom

>>34671334
I wish he got un-perma'd

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>>34670403

>>34670838
Because lefties are superior. Are you stupid?

>>34670801

this dude died for nothing, they could just have exploded the bomb, it would not have damaged anything.

>>34671500
Except that possible gas station fire/explosion about to happen

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>>34671023
The most interesting thing I've read in months

>>34670775
>>34670791
>>34670842
>there is even a single bomb in existence that can be detonated by bullets and have a decent payload.

>>34671727
So drag it away with a long ass rope instead of having a guy man-handle it

>>34671437
I'm not left handed, so no.

>>34670361
If bomb is hand grenade or anti-personnel mine than yes.

>>34671023
>Tl;dr Man made an impressive tamper-proof bomb with dynamite in it and put it in a casino and demanded 3 million dollars then the FBI tampered with it and it went off. It was this big thing and they got caught because of the son's ex-girlfriend snitching for 500.

>>34670403
shit man I never thought of that

>>34671323
Be somewhere far away from the bomb?

>>34671852
So man handle it with a rope instead of a person. You are literally retarded if you think dragging it across the ground on a rope would work...

>>34671023
>The informant explained that he had once dated a girl who had told him all about the plan for the extortion plot before it had even occurred.
>The ex-girlfriend had heard about it from her ex-boyfriend, a young fellow named John Birges Jr.
It is lucky that criminals in many cases are so fucking stupid.

>>34672548
>So man handle it with a rope instead of a person
uh yes, instead of suiciding the bomb disposal guy like third world retards. If they can't blow it up in-place then they can move it, and if it blows up mid travel then tough shit, it wouldn't kill anyone.

>>34670801
yeah honestly just shoot it or something and if it's too close to something just drag it away, no point in risking life like this.

>>34673560
>If they can't blow it up in-place then they can move it
And if it has a tamper switch?
>if it blows up mid travel then tough shit, it wouldn't kill anyone.
You literally cannot make such a judgement without knowing its composition. The shrapnel from a package that size is more than sufficient to kill even hundreds of feet away, without even taking into account the use of unusual explosives or circumstantial issues (like the proximity to a fuel station scenario that the other guy mentioned) that could exacerbate the situation. Looks like its potentially large enough to hold a chain of 2-3 105mm projectiles, which would be enough to level buildings on either side of the road.

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>>34670801

>>34670801
>>34674128
Did he died? I can't really tell because he didn't get thrown back that far.

>>34672522
>he doesn't live on the edge
Bet you also drink green tea

>>34670361
>using bare hands
>sticking your face right up against the suspected package

is this for real?

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>>34670482
This was also the explanation given to me.

pic related
>16yr old me

>>34674234
these suits never come with gloves because you need your fingers

it also means that in case things go bad and you survive you won't have any hands

>>34670514
This.

>>34674128
>mfw no face

>>34671023
>https://www.damninteresting.com/the-zero-armed-bandit/
This is the coolest thing I've read in a LONG time.

>>34670801
He got what he deserved for littering.

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>>34670361
Ain't nothing on this great planet that's gonna save you from a bomb blowing up in your face except the lord above or 470mm of armor.

It'll keep your shit intact real nice if you're caught in the indirect blast radius. Anything greater than 5m from the blast you'll be doing a fuck of a lot better than if you didn't have the suit.

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>>34671023
Damn that was well worth the read
>pic definitely related

>>34671023
Pretty damn good. A reminder that you don't want to mess with a guy who knows exactly what he's doing.

>>34671023
It bothers me that the whole premise of the story only works if you ignore the fact that if a average human finds an unknown machine with switches, he will flip the switches to see what it does before reading the note.

>>34676124
To be fair it was 6:30 in the morning, found by a graveyard shift worker, didn't have any identifying marks, didn't have any openings, appeared under pretty sketchy circumstances, and he didn't get any notices about delivery of said object. I would be pretty fucking suspicious of it too

>>34671348
Jesus. He got turned inside out.

>>34676214
All im saying is that the chances of the bomb going off before anyone knew there was a bomb in the first place were pretty high.

You have to be lucky enough that the people that find it dont go "what does this switch do?" or "wtf is this doing here? move it to somewhere else!". My guess is that the nightshift worker was involved in the plan, otherwise the risk would have been to big.


I do love the ending though.

>> When asked why so few people these days seem to remember the events that unfolded in Lake Tahoe on 26-27 August 1980, Jonkey’s speculation is succinct: “Nobody died.”

>>34670361
Depends on the size of the bomb. A couple of rigged grenades/mortar bombs/land mines, sure for a given value of save. You'll live but you won't be 100% factory new anymore.

Something like rigged artillery shells or large bombs no. It will mitigate a partial detonation but if the whole thing goes off you'll never know it.

>>34670744
>>34670482
Wouldn't it be helpful for shrapnel?
Obviously any real amount of explosive would turn ur guts to jelly
but there's a lot of low yield high frag stuff kicking around

>>34676515
Penetration of grenade shrapnel is shitty enough that I imagine it wouldn't do much besides maybe blow out your eardrums.

>>34670386
They use robots all the , big suit is a bad situation

>>34671023
That's real fuckin' neato

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>>34670403
a legitimate concern

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>>34670403
SQUIDWARD! THE ROBOTS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE NAVY!

>>34670450

Skynet is trying to play mind games....I'm onto you, Skynet.

>>34672233

I'd let her give me a nub job.

>>34677061
raffed

>>34676585
I'd take your fingers/hands off if your close and unlucky or handling it and I've met a former EOD who lost a foot when a piece of an arab rigged mortar bomb slipped under the metatarsal guard and bounced around indie his boot.

>>34670403
>After several hours of philosophical debate the bomb has convinced both the diffusal robot AND the EOD bomb techs that letting the bomb explode is the right thing to do.

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>>34671023
wow, good read

>>34670386
Most of the time they use robots.

I did see some EOD guy have to put his suit on and climb up a guard tower on an ANA outpost that had an IED in it though. Robots don't climb ladders very well, but it's kind of a rare situation.

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>>34670403
The purpose of the bomb is to explode.

>>34677150
She is kinda a QT.

>>34674199
how fucking dense do you have to be to think the distance he was thrown equates to how much shock he absorbed

>>34670386
Because the EOD guys get to attached to the robots.

>>34676889
Not sure there was a lot of jews in Sarajevo.

>>34676124
It's not a story you fucking mongoloid, it actually happened.

>>34670403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73PsFKtIck

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>>34670361
It really depends on the bomb
If you're defusing a haji-rigged handgrenade or pipe bomb you're pretty much good except for your hands

If you're defusing a bunch of 155s or something you're fugged with or without

Sometimes you get rare cases where a tech gets launched by a car bomb and is unharmed

>>34674395
>EOD 7B
You're fucking old, they haven't used those suits for many years

pic related, my suit (sans armor plates, put new ones in and couldn't be assed to take a picture)

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>>34670361
It's not meant to make you invincible you retard. It's to protect you from a concussive blast (to a certain degree) and to protect against shrapnel. If a bomb goes of right in front of you than you're probably dead.

>>34670361
Better than having just a flak jacket or plate carrier.

>>34670386
Beep Boop, Rock tripped me over, help me get up, beep boop

>>34670801
idk man, it looks like all of his limbs are still attached. I figured a lethal explosion would fucking knock your limbs off

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>>34670801
holy shit

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>>34680525
>new armor plates
>when its clear the suit does nothing other than making sure your arm doesn't end up a mile away

>>34670569
Most of what's already been said, plus if you want to try and ID the bombmaker, your job is going to be infinitely easier if you have an intact device from which you can identify technique, materials, trace, etc. It's still wholly feasible to get much of that kind of data from an activated device, but if it's a domestic bombing, clearer physical evidence will hold up better than a lot of dry expert testimony.

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>>34681624
I put IIIa panels in to fulfill my dream of being a bulldozer

>>34674199
that means all the energy went into his body
he's minced meat inside

>>34670842
that's a diffuser, anon. It was invented by a marine.

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>>34671023
>>34671035
>It looked as if a bomb had gone off.

>>34682770
>YOU'RE UP AGAINST THE WALL AND I AM THE FUCKING WALL

>>34680525
It's from nearly 8 years ago. Also it was at a Bundeswehr base.

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>>34670361
If you do survive then you'll be permanently disabled

>>34670403
Best reply I've seen this week


10/10

>>34674018
So yeah instead of evacuating everyone in the close proximity and trying to move it you just send in a guy to try to defuse it, real smart.

>>34682770
>IDS A MUTHAFUCKIN BULLDOZA

>>34672548
Drone+Rope

>>34670361
Depends. How big of a bomb and how far are you?
Hand grenade at 3 feet? Easily. A 155mm arty shell at 10 feet? Probably not.

>>34670386
Robots tend to be clumsy as all hell. Still useful but sometimes they get caught up on stuff. Bricks, potholes, tangles of string, etc.

Also, don't try to defuse with a robot. They're too damned clumsy.

>>34677150
Same here, for being a crippled milfag chick, she is at least a 7/10 in my book.

Why don't they wear gloves though? Hands not important enough to keep or what?

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>>34685104
>defusing such extremely delicate mechanisms such as a nigger-rigged time bomb made out of a F91W, a breadboard and a car battery while wearing what amounts to kevlar-layered oven mitts
No, you go ahead, I'm sure you'll manage

Man, whoever willingly signs up for EOD has my greatest respect. I would not have the balls.

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>>34670361
>no bomb mittens

>>34670403
LOL

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>>34670403
What if the disposal guy sides with the bomb?

>>34685360
I mean, it's dauntingly hard and stressful but I would love to become one if given the chance.
>Infantry fucks up, you die.
>Artillery fucks up, your buddies die.
>Marksman fucks up, you, your spotter and a few buddies die.
>EOD fucks up, you, all your buddies, reinforcements and the whole city block gets blown the fuck up.
>You still smile, knowing you were the coolest guy in the base while flying 10 meters up in the air as 100000 little pieces.

>>34682770
Realistically speaking, would these have any protection against bullets?

>>34686459
The dozer suits? Yes, obviously, they can tank entire LMG belts to the chest and head.
IRL? No. EOD suits are just kevlar for flexibility. You don't need hardplates unless yu're trying to defy dedicated armor-piercing ammo, and bomb shrapnel doesn't really qualify for that.

>>34683153
>being this unable to take a joke

>>34686476
He meant the dozer suit not EOD suits we use, anon. I think he also meant using actual plates instead of flexible armor components and kevlar.

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>>34686484
(you)

>>34686489
I guess I meant both? The dozer suits are based off of the EOD suits right?

>>34686554
Sure, they are. But like I said, they have actual plates in them. Kinda like the full body armors but instead having plates in a carrier. EOD suit, in this case.

>>34686476
They're only thin kevlar near the outside, innards are a lot of plastic and foam to stop shockwaves

I noticed because when I put actual ballistic kevlar panels in mine it actually got a lot lighter

>>34670569
Bomb in major population center. Even if you evacuate, you could have collateral like 9/11, when the twin towers collapsed, they weren't the only buildings to. People were crushed, inhaled carcinogens, and choked to death.

>>34686459
Goddamn it, now I want a EOD suit lined with AR-500, to LARP as the North Hollywood Robber and build me an ICTV.

>>34671852
>>34672548
Actually remote moves with robot and or rope and pulley is a commonly used technique. I know because im EOD

>>34670361
That is a Med Eng EOD 9 Bomb Suit. It weighs 95 lbs. It is rated to allow a bomb technician to survive 1 lbs pound of dynamite going off 4 feet away. It is partly designed to protect against blast pressure, fragmentation, and fire. Blast pressure is what is going to kill you...blast pressure waves move incredibly fast and water does not compress....

It is not a magic suit. If your are holding the explosive in your hands there is no bomb suit yet made that will keep you alive. The british, south american, and middle eastern bomb techs have been killed in bomb suits for many years now.....Israelis are a different breed...

Robots are nice to have but are prone to malfunction at the most in-opportune of times....

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>>34681525
Your insides would still get fucked up dude

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>>34671023
This would be a really good movie