>sitting at taco bell with my dad >small talking about

>>34650654
Hollywood always over dramatizes effects, especially firearm effects. The average normie can't distinguish a slide racking from a padlock being closed.

>>34650654
>Most people aren't gun autists

There you go faglord

>>34650756
this

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>>34650756
spbp

>>34650729
>tfw your SxS makes pump actions sounds

thanks holloywood

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>>34650654

That pic though.
Just look at that print. He looks like the type that would carry a Hi-Point

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>>34650654
ITS CALLED 'NORMALCY BIAS' LOOK IT UP OP.

>>34651042
>This is why I voted for Trump's stupid ass.

>>34650654
>Why are people so oblivious to danger?
Look into Jeff Cooper's "Combat mindset and the Cooper color code"
Most people walk around in "White", blissfully unaware of their actual surroundings.

>>34650869
Poor and stupid?

>>34650869
I was thinking the exact same thing. Cholo dude with a text message alert set as gun sounds, and an obvious print. Yeah

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>>34650869
Check out the shape of the print, especially the bottom of the grip and magwell. I think it actually IS a Hi-Point.

>>34650654
I have seen some prints, but that shit is like an entire encyclopedia.

>>34650654
>buffalo wild wings
>drinking beer
>snake tattoo
>$100 cc class
>$100 Hi-Point
>defending his domestic abuse partner should danger arise

Tell me a story about freedom

>I'm sure people have heard it before in all the movies that are out there.

Yeah, they heard it in a safe place where nothing dangerous happened. So their brains know it can be safely ignored.

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>>34652886

>used to be a bartender in white trash shithole hometown
>dudes coming in and CC'ing and printing even worse than this constantly
>get tanked on Jack and Bud
>mfw I report them to the cops every time

That and getting plastered on the job were the only fun parts of working there.

>>34652509
>Look into Jeff Cooper's "Combat mindset and the Cooper color code"

Isn't that the guy who does the 1911 conditions?

What is it with him and coding things into numbers or colors?

>>34652974

He was tacticool bullshit before it was a thing.

>>34652974
Because before him the world was ruled by retarded fuddlore and he tried to make some sense out of the chaos.

>>34652925

If you CC and drink you deserve whatever the fuck happens to you. Good on you.

>>34652925
>mfw I report them to the cops every time
why?

>>34653145

It's illegal to consume alcohol while CC'ing in a restaurant in my state. It's also a liability that can come back to me when they get drunk and get in a fight in the parking lot and shoot somebody.

>>34652555

that pic is in a buffalo wild wings

the story is from a taco bell

>pic not really related at all
>derp

Friend has slide rack and gun sound text message sounds on android phone. Even across a busy restaurant at low volume if you thought those were real life...

>>34652700
Kek

>>34650654
I can read the fucking serial number through that guy's shirt.

>>34650654
>"I thought the screams were from a party". People are fucking oblivious to the sounds of danger. How can someone not be alarmed by this sound?

If I ran outside every time I heard screaming in my medium sized city because I thought it was a rape or shootout I wouldn't sleep. People are loud and obnoxious when they're drunk.

>>34653145
Because if you go get drunk as a skunk while you're carrying you deserve it.

>>34654698
For every asshole who acts retarded when he's drunk, there's 9 people who can handle it just fine. Drinking and driving shouldn't be a crime until your vehicle actually collides with something/someone. Being drunk while in possession of a gun shouldn't be a crime until you start doing something unlawful with it. You're not violating the NAP by simply being intoxicated. Punishing the majority for the behavior of a few.

>>34650654
>off to my right i hear the distinct sound of a slide locking back
>off to my right I see five mounted cowboys
>off to my left ride a dozen or more

>>34654721
Those laws are there for preventing those things from happening.

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>>34654727
Got a hearty kek from me.

>>34650654
>sitting at taco bell with my dad
But that's BW3

>>34654855
>But that's BW3

Buffalo Wild Wings Westawaunt?

>>34653039
Not the guy you're talking to, but are there any laws regarding drinking and carrying?
Is there a certain BAC you have to be within, or will you just get the law brought down on you if they find you drinking while carrying?
Do you carry when you go to less reputable places that serve alcohol?

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>>34654727
>Marty Robbins
>not Big Iron

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>>34654721
>For every asshole who acts retarded when he's drunk, there's 9 people who can handle it just fine. Drinking and driving shouldn't be a crime until your vehicle actually collides with something/someone. Being drunk while in possession of a gun shouldn't be a crime until you start doing something unlawful with it. You're not violating the NAP by simply being intoxicated. Punishing the majority for the behavior of a few.

Let me explain something to you. Society at large does not accept it as an acceptable risk that one might get caught in a drunken shootout (they still happen) or maimed/killed by a drunk driver (still happens) just because of your lolbertarianism. This is where society as come together and formed an institution known as the police in order to stop what is often easily preventable mayhem by shitheads that put the lives of others in danger. I love hearing about liberty and libertarianism and voluntarism but I'm not prepared to live in that world with the crop of humanity that actually exists.

>>34654932
Buffalo Wild Wings & Weck

>>34654727
Underrated post friend.

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>>34654689
>If I ran outside every time I heard screaming in my medium sized city because I thought it was a rape or shootout I wouldn't sleep. People are loud and obnoxious when they're drunk.

Also, kids scream all the time and they're never actually in danger. Teens yell and scream all the time. People get drunk and rowdy and yell sometimes, especially if you live in town near bars.

As for the slide racking, rap music and other stuff uses that sound all the time. You could usually tell it's an artificial sound unless you're hearing it above background noise. Either way, my overall point is that there's a lot of stimuli in an urban area to be constantly processing and you can't be on full guard-dog mode all time. You have to learn to discriminate, of course (in the technical sense)

>>34654770
Bootlicking commie.

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>>34654721
this, lightweights need to fuck off with their attempts to be treading on me

>>34654980
The laws don't represent what society at large wants. DUI's are a cash crop for law enforcement agencies. That's why they arrest people who get drunk and sleep in their cars who clearly have zero intention of driving drunk. You can pop a shitload of xanax and oxycodone and go for a spin and they can't do shit about it. It has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with sucking as many shekels out of us as they possibly can. Traffic cameras have been proven to cause more accidents, yet we still use them. Measuring BAC is not a reliable way to determine how intoxicated someone is. There are so many variables involved in what your BAC is and the subjective effects of alcohol, including your sex, ethnicity, body weight, how much you've eaten and what type of food, alcohol tolerance, variable levels of liver enzymes and so on. 0.08 BAC would feel extremely different to an 90 pound Asian woman than a fat American who just ate a steak dinner. Driving while sleep deprived has been proven to be more dangerous than driving drunk yet we don't arrest sleepy drivers.

>>34654980
There you go again associating a drinking man with a worthless drunk, fuck off. White men have been drinking and changing the world for the better since the beginning of recorded time. Just because you're some mulatto with a weak liver doesn't mean you know anything about alcohol.

>>34655117
>You can pop a shitload of xanax and oxycodone and go for a spin and they can't do shit about it.

It's called a DUI for a reason, driving under the influence. You can and people do get busted for driving on drugs all the time.

>There are so many variables involved in what your BAC is and the subjective effects of alcohol, including your sex, ethnicity, body weight, how much you've eaten and what type of food, alcohol tolerance,

Found the alcoholic with 2 DUI's

>>34655139
This. I know a guy that is like 5'5 110 pounds and caused a whole scene screaming at people last night after drinking a fucking mikes hard lemonade.
Those of us that drink regularly get a bad rap from these fucking manlets that can't function after 2 beers.

>>34655191
>people get arrested for driving on drugs
True, but they can't prove it if you don't admit it. Most people just can't keep their mouths shut. They'll only drug test you of you get into a wreck and kill someone.

>found the alcoholic
Nope , never got a DUI and I've gotten drunk twice in the last 90 days. It just bothers me that we always hear about the the drunks and junkies who act shitty, and we make rules because of these people, meanwhile most people can handle their shit. You never hear about the guy who has a couple beers and drives home safely, or the guy who has a good job and a nice family and dabbles in drugs on the weekend, because why the fuck would you hear about those people? You only hear about the assholes because they're the only ones that are noteworthy. I hate being punished/restricted because of other people's mistakes.

>>34650654
>that pic
And that's why I carry appendix. Lose the gut, save your butt.

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>>34655212
You liar. 5' 5" men don't even exist.

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>>34650654
>Eating inside at a fast food restaurant
>Not eating in the parking lot with your car backed in so you can make a fast get away if trouble arises.

>>34650654
pig disgusting tattooed trash, both of them

>>34654721
>>34655117

Society disagrees though, and DUI isn't a protected right. Feel free to ignore that. Maybe the judge will agree with you on the NAP.

BAC is subjective, but the alternative is police who say you're intoxicated because fuck you, that's why. At least a BAC under the legal limit may save you a criminal record at the end of a trial.

>>34657509
I cannot imagine the smells that must originate from your car.

>>34653039
Get fucked. I'm sure you feel the permissible BAC for driving is 0 too. Go home MADD.

>>34655282
not true they can drug test you if they think you have drugs in your system.... source i have friends with duis and they will take a blood test. good god do you research anything also its really easy to tell if someone is driving on drugs like oxys and xans again source i have a social life

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>>34655117
>You can pop a shitload of xanax and oxycodone and go for a spin and they can't do shit about it.

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>>34655139
>There you go again associating a drinking man with a worthless drunk, fuck off. White men have been drinking and changing the world for the better since the beginning of recorded time. Just because you're some mulatto with a weak liver doesn't mean you know anything about alcohol.

You moronic subhuman, do you really think appealing to "muh white race" will get you points on /k/? Nobody wants to dodge you on the road when you get behind the wheel of your rusty pickup with a bottle of jack

>it's a white trash tries to defend his alcoholism episode again

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>>34657695
fuck off you autistic little bitch, yes genetically I'm good at drinking, so are most every one I know, you can take it as racism if you want, but whites can hold their shit together and if you through around hyperbolic, detached from reality absolutist nonsense I'm going to call you out on being a fucking square or of genetic lineage lacking a history with alcohol.

You nigger nerd

>>34655117
Cop here. In my state the statute specifically states that a DUI charge requires a vehicle to be in motion and that it can refer to alcohol or drugs or any combination of the two.

So... either you're a retard or your state's laws differ from mine significantly.

>>34657771
>DUI charge requires a vehicle to be in motion

not in colorado :(

>>34657752
>HK
>cartridges aren't loaded backwards

1 job

>>34655191
>It's called a DUI for a reason, driving under the influence
they pretty much never blood test you unless you caused a traffic accident and are visibly fucked up on depressants, which means that a guy high as fuck on pain killer is just a shitty driver in the eyes of the law. You really think a guy on pills is less capable behind the wheel than a sober 80 IQ dindu with below average reaction time?

>2017
>being over like 16
>thinking traffic cops are there to protect you and not generate revenue for your county
>believing MADD cunt cat ladies

>>34657752
>not sure if b8 or legit faggotry

>>34655117
No.
>>34657752
You don't get out enough then anon. Drunk people love starting shit or escalating shit that could be deescalated. I see that kind of shit all the time if i drink anywhere public. Hell, last time i was at a club i saw two different guys get arrested for carrying and had another two try to start a random fight with me an my friends in front of several cops.

>>34657833
>being comfortable and capable with your alcohol intake is faggotry

seriously fuck off you little bitch, no body hear cares that you're either a sober bore or a drunken liability at parties, we aren't.

>>34657771
There's been cases of cops in my state finding people asleep in their cars and saying "I'm glad you're not driving, I appreciate you being honest with me, do me a favor and just park right over here so you're not in the way". Then the second they put the key in the ignition, they slap cuffs on them. This has happened on camera and the people still got convicted. That's some scummy shit.

>hahaha! I tricked you into technically breaking the law! Now you're going to jail, scumbag!

>>34657844
>no
Not an arguement, faggot. Refute what I said or fuck off.

>>34657844
I am aware many people are shit at drinking. Once again, stop trying to hold me accountable for their retardation.

Someone gets drunk, starts a fight an shoots a guy? Whatever charge them accordingly, what the fuck does his shit tolerance for booze have to do with me now being legally fucked when I shoot an intruder in my house at 11pm after 6 pints or so.

>>34650654
>can't tell the difference between sound effects from an iphone speaker and a real gun
>has the gall to post on /k/ before lurking for at least 10 years

>>34654770
>Those laws are there for preventing those things from happening
>the law stops crime
wrong
the law punishes crime. what makes DUI manslaughter worse than vehicular manslaughter if the same idiot in the same road conditions would hydroplane the same way?

>>34657919
These faggots don't care about adroit sequitar reasoning, they are millenials who grew up on MADD adds and google searches, no critical thinking skills.

>>34657856
That's called entrapment. The world's worst lawyer could make that charge disappear.

>>34657946
A good lawyer could argue that the police officer abused his authority to compel the guy to break the law.

>>34657946
>just spend several thousand dollars or more on a decent lawyer to make the frivolous wrongful charges disappear
I can feel the palm shaking from here

>>34657974
No, you sue the fuck out of the department and cost that corrupt officer his badge. It's like you cannot into American legal system, anon

>>34654959
In the town of Taco Bell racked a slide one fine day

>>34657856
I dont know what corrupt shithole you live in but that shit doesnt happen anywhere in my state lad.

cant believe there are people in this thread that are actually upset that drunk driving is illegal and believe its a government conspiracy to make money and withhold rights

>>34658025
>drinking with a detectable BAC
> driving while drunk
> thinking these are necessarily the same thing

You must be 18 to post here. Preferably once you're out of the concrete operations stage

>>34657983
>No, you sue the fuck out of the department and cost that corrupt officer his badge
literal nigger logic
>dey didn't read me muh mirandu rights I gonna sue da shit out of da pooolice!
do you have any idea what would actually be involved in successfully "suing" over the police tricking you into putting your keys in the ignition? It's effectively impossible, the officers in question are going to be acting as highwaymen for the state for the year and a half you fight the frivolous charge, and the prosecutor's office is going to offer you 3-6 months of probation and a reckless driving conviction and you'd be a fucking idiot to not take it after shelling out 5-10k (less and you've got yourself a DUI and no one gives a shit that the police did one of the myriad of illegal things they do to generate revenue)

>>34658025
If you don't think DUI law is purposefully crafted to generate revenue you're a fucking idiot.
>mfw you probably think "muh 10,000 deaths" is babies and 16 year old girls being killed by evil drunk drivers and not almost entirely bubba wrapping his pickup around an oak tree after last call
>mfw you probably think that your mom getting popped in a DUI checkpoint after a brunch mimosa with the girls is justice
kiss that boot redditor

>>34658025
Way to fail at reading, why are millenials so easily confused?

>my BAC
>same as your BAC
>equally impaired

See the problem? YYou might have the same BAC and be totally out of control, wake up tomorrow with a hangover and swear off drinking

Myself and others are not even "drunk" at that point, so your faggot weak ass tolerance is now unfairly holding me accountable for non-criminal activity

Fucking lightweight retainer wearing children

>>34658063
>>34658078
it impairs your reasoning your reaction time and your motor functions, you guys are absolute morons. no one takes libertarians seriously because of dumb shit like this, you might as well just go full sovereign citizen

>>34658063
>>34658078
>>34658111
jesus you three are really mad that you cant drive drunk. how many DUIs have you got?

>>34658134
0, and I've been driving "over the legal limit" occasionally for 12 years, a couple of those many times I might have actually been driving "drunk", but 0 of those times was I out of control

One time I almost fell asleep at the wheel but I was sober that night

I'm only 23 and I've already had enough friends, or friends of friends die/have their lives ruined by drunk drivers.

>friend's little sister had 5 of her best friends get killed by a drunk driver.
Imagine losing your daughter to some low life loser

>4 or 5 dudes in flight school with me got hit by a drunk driver while walking on the sidewalk
The guys have busted their ass getting commissioned, and had an awesome life flying in the Navy ahead of them. None of them will be pilots now

My best friend and I literally had to wrestle our roommate to the ground to stop him from driving drunk one night because he left his wallet at the movie theatre, and wanted to drive back to get it. And we passed a fucking DUI checkpoint on the way home. We literally held him to the ground until we could talk sense to him.

Fuck drunk drivers. I fully believe that people can be above .08 and still be great drivers. If there was a way to somehow determine if each individual person was too intoxicated to drive, I'd be all for it. But until such a thing exists, .08 will have to do.

>>34658125
and what if your reaction time is higher than average?
should a "drunk driver" with above average reaction time be a criminal when someone sober can have worse reaction time and drive legally? shouldn't they be a criminal too, or at least not have the ability to legally drive due to their reaction time being lower and being more likely to cause a traffic accident?

>>34658134
>if you don't agree with unjust laws then you're just one of the criminals we've manufactured!
the fact that your average hood can get arrested for driving without a license 10 times and have less of a legal issue than your mom having a glass of wine with lunch and going through a mandatory DUI check station should get you mad too statist.

>>34658210
you should volunteer with MADD since they can only find lonely cat ladies who had a family member die 20 years ago in the statistical improbability of a DUI manslaughter. Or you're just fucking lying.

>>34658078
This is a situation where the police officer is literally on film ordering a drunk civilian to move his car and then arresting him. It's clear cut abuse of authority and a lawyer would have a field day. It isn't "nigger tier" to punish tyrants with any and all legal remedies available to you. Fuck you statist cuck. Don't you have a bull to prep?

>>34658210
>I fully believe that people can be above .08 and still be great drivers. If there was a way to somehow determine if each individual person was too intoxicated to drive, I'd be all for it. But until such a thing exists, .08 will have to do.
If they can pass a drivers ed course with a .18 BAC then what would you say? make it a fucking certification like riding a motorcycle or better yet fuck off with morality laws.

>>34658125
So does being old and not playing sports/video games. The point is BAC limits are totally arbitrary and alcohol prohibition groups like MADD want to push them down even lower. You're such a dumb nigger you don't even realize that a degree of alcohol consumption can actually enhance your fine motor skills.

>>34658210
You're using the exact same bullshit emotion-driven arguements that gun grabbers use. "I've lost so many friends to gun violence, my daughter was killed by guns!". I'm sorry that happened to you, but that's a shit arguement.

>>34658244
>or your just fucking lying

Feel free to Google "navy pilots hit by drunk driver in Pensacola". As for the girls being killed, it happened in a small town in West Texas, and I don't care enough to look it up.

>>34658256
>It's clear cut abuse of authority and a lawyer would have a field day.
t. not a lawyer

protip: there is nothing illegal about the police lying to you.

>>34658274
a few shooting organizations actually ban alcohol as a performance enhancing drug

>>34658259
This sounds like the most fun drivers ed course ever

>>34658287
Except one is a right, and the other is a privilege. Do you understand the fundamental difference?

>>34658274
>You're such a dumb nigger you don't even realize that a degree of alcohol consumption can actually enhance your fine motor skills.

forreal - alcohol is considered a PED in shooting sports and for good reason, I put my best groups and times up with a few pints in me, no exceptions.

>>34658302
In the (clearly fake) example given a uniformed police officer is ordering a drunk to move his car. That isn't lying, he's compelling action with an implied threat of consequences for disobedience. That's a distinction with a massive difference

>>34652666
It's either a High point or a Beretta PX4 - observe what looks like a slide mounted safety.
As an alternative it could be another Beretta model with an extended mag

>>34658259
>>34658309

One of my buddies back in NROTC spent a Friday night getting plied with alcohol by the police department, and then getting behind the wheel of a car and taking her for a spin. It was so the department could practice handling drunk drivers or some shit, being a college town and all. He said all the volunteers had an absolute blast.

>>34658315
That doesn't change anything. You're still framing your arguement the same way. The difference is really just semantics anyway. In practice, there's very little difference between the right to own guns and the privilege of driving. They're both regulated and restricted in similar ways.

>>34655212
Come to Australia, where the manlets are chads and the points don't matter

>>34658301
>and I don't care enough to look it up.
2 out of 320 million you tangentially know if you weren't lying to begin with. literally who fucking cares.

the amount of money saved by

>>34658315
do you understand the difference between civil and criminal law?

>>34658337
they're allowed to do that too m8. police authority needs to be heavily curtailed, but that doesn't change the fact that they regularly fuck with people and are within their legal capacity. Many states you can be convicted of DUI simply by being in your car with your keys while drunk

>ITT: Tuesday night drunks who likely drive in suburban or rural areas with roads that have no one on them at night and no pedestrians to worry about

Drive in a big city drunk at night.

>>34658337
>clearly fake
Dude, it happened. It was in the local news, caught on camera and everything. It was in 2006 or so. I can't find a source.

>the police would never lie!

>>34658337
It wasn't an order. It was phrased as a request "hey, do me a favor". There was no implied threat. The cops who were doing this would act like they were just being bros.

>>34658381
And it was so outrageous it made the news. What was the final outcome?

>>34658364
*cont

if you removed the money motive from DUI and traffic enforcement, IE made the money go to the state or even the feds instead the county who (((totally don't base the police budget on revenue generated))), then the thousands of man hours spent being state sanctioned highwaymen would never happen. It's all about money, masked by crying hags playing celine dion behind pictures of some white trash girl who got centerpunched by a shitkicker going 90mph in 1992.

>>34658377
wow stop and go 15mph traffic is so difficult to deal with

>>34654980
Society at large is corruptible, in fact already corrupted.
Law would be more beneficial if it was cause and effect - you can carry in a bar, you can have a few.
You step over the line and brandish/threaten/or shoot someone - even in justifiable self defense while intoxicated and the book is thrown at you at Mach 5

>>34658364
You're switching things up. It being illegal to be drunk in your car is one thing. It's entirely another for police to use their authority to compel a person to commit a crime. The police officer is essentially making themsef an accessory to the crime st the very least stretch of the imagination

>>34658351
They are completely different. Owning a gun is a right. Go ahead and drive drunk on your own private land.

Driving on public roads is a privilege.

>>34654980
>I love hearing about liberty and libertarianism and voluntarism but I'm not prepared to live in that world with the crop of humanity that actually exists.
The best part about that world is the unfit would kill themselves off quite quickly, undesirables have no safety net

>>34658398
A good lawyer would spin that into being conveyed as an order. The police officer is a public authority figure requesting an action from a vulnerable person.

If a doctor pulls his dick out to his patient and says "hey, would you mind sucking this dick?" It's considered a request not made on a level playing field

>>34657771
Several states, esp shitty ones in the North East, will DUI/DWAI a guy sleeping in his drivers seat

>>34658412
Ticket revenue going to the issuing PD is an outrageous conflict of interest

>>34654770
Just like how gun laws prevent gun deaths from happening

Hand them over goyim

>>34658427
>even in justifiable self defense
why?

Literally make the law apply equally
>anon you brandished your handgun on may the 7th
>but your honor I was drunk
>who gives a shit you brandished your weapon
just
>anon you shot tyrone shoelaces in a wendys parking lot
>he was trying to rob me and said so while dying in the hospital
>but you blew a .09 so this clear cut lawful homicide is now murder!
not just

effect is all that matters.

>>34658430
>the police can't lie to you
you sweet summer child
>>34658460
>more arm chair lawyering
an actually good lawyer would try to use it to get the case dismissed or get you the lightest plea with the least amount of probation and no alcohol charges and to count your fucking blessings.

>>34654933
In Texas it just says "intoxicated." So best just not to drink at all.

>dumb thread about phone sounds
>turns into heated debate between bootlicking cucks and lolberg fedora tippers

>>34658505
The radical centrist shows himself

>>34658424
Closer to 30-35, which isn't bad. Take into account pedestrians jay walking in all black clothes at night, shit drivers, people who want to get hit to sue you, people opening car doors into cramped roadways, kids chasing balls into roads, emergency vehicles constantly, constant construction and potholes everywhere that'll pop your tires or fuck your car. Then add snow

Jesus, drunks get argumentative. Pretty funny

>>34657983
>Sue
>Spend tens of thousands of dollars
The legal system has a pretty fucking steep buy in.
Justice can be yours only if you pay thousands upon thousands of dollars goyim.

It's the principle reason why they get away with this shit

>>34657919
>what makes DUI manslaughter worse than vehicular manslaughter if the same idiot in the same road conditions would hydroplane the same way?
Because the drunken idiot behind the wheel in conditions conducive to hydroplaning is more likely to lose control of a vehicle you stupid ass. The Sober driver is more likely to keep control of the vehicle while the driver under the influence is more likely to spin out and possibly kill someone. That's what makes it worse.

>>34658557
Being sleep deprived can make you more impaired than alcohol.

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>>34658557
>Keep control
>Hydroplaning

>>34658533
I live in Florida. You described my daily commute m8, only the speed limit is

>>34658557
>happens to both
>same thing happens
>one is worse because of my delicate sensibilities
In a perfect world milquetoast shit drivers wouldn't even be able to get a driver's license and a competent alcoholic wouldn't have to worry about one of them side swiping them and getting arrested due to having a bac in a not at fault traffic incident.

>>34658484
Carrying drunk and justifiably defend yourself.
Even if you are exonerated you should face a fine - granted this limit should be over .08 and more like 1.2

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>>34658609
>Even if you are exonerated you should face a fine
w h y
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>>34658468
Even if it doesnt, and instead it goes to the county school board or some such shit, the politicians that have control over and benefit from that money can reward the police

>>34658580
Ok. Which is why truckers are required to get x hours of sleep while on the road. Do they all do that? No, which is why meth is so popular among them.

>>34658589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdwuftIUwYY
Did you not pay attention when your dad taught you how to drive? FFS they even covered in in drivers ed.

>>34658590
>happens to both
>one person was sober and lost control, hit with a reasonable charge
>the other was under the influence of a substance he willingly took known to impair driving skills, hit with a reasonable charge
>these are somehow the same to anon
In a perfect world you would be able to find a sober driver or wait a little bit to sober up a bit before driving home. A really competent alcoholic would know to do that.

>>34658557
I know a man who raced in mid to high level endurance road races in the 80s and 90s, and he drove intoxicated later in life to no incident. And riding with him it was clear that the man had as near as complete control of the situation as could be had.

On the other hand you let 16yo asian girls with terrible car control skills drive around in an escalade no fucking problem while livestreaming and listening to beiber. How about old people?

sober racecar driver > drunk racecar driver > 16yo korean

ITT:
>one time my cousin/brother got drunk and shot my sister/wife so guns and alcohol don't mix

No your retarded your genes and guns don't mix, you room temperature IQ faggot

ITT:
>ive driven drunk and havent killed anyone yet, and i knew a guy who drove drunk once and didnt, and i think DUIs exist because the government is out to get me

>>34658750
>On the other hand you let 16yo asian girls with terrible car control skills drive around in an escalade no fucking problem while livestreaming and listening to beiber.
>one group of people acting like an idiots justifies another group of people to act like idiots

How many high level endurance road racers compared to 16 year old dipshits that couldn't put their phone down if you put a gun to their head do you think are floating around?

>>34658734
>we shuld punish both!
why is someone handicapped and causing an accident worse than someone who is at their full capacity and caused the same accident?

If you are fine with the sober driver on the road then why not the person who is tired, intoxicated, or under the effect of a drug? If you aren't then why aren't you penalizing the driver who is at 100% of their ability more so than someone who has a mitigating circumstance affecting their performance?

>>34658921
>all punishments are equal!
Alrighty then. You're an idiot.

>why is someone handicapped and causing an accident worse and caused the same accident.
Think about this particular part of the sentence and it's context. Booze and drugs are things you willingly take that are known to impair judgement, motor skills, and vision. You have taken those, and have now are stepping into a vehicle to travel down the highway at speed with other people around you. How is that the same as the average person who is sober going on the road?

>If you are fine with the sober driver on the road then why not the person who is tired, intoxicated, or under the effect of a drug?
Because they have made a judgment call that has put others at risk, possibly myself. Should you be driving all night if you know you aren't paying attention when you're that tired? No. Pull over. Should you be on the road half a bottle of whiskey in? No, call a buddy for a favor. Should you chew a couple of peyote buttons and drive? Hell no. Stay at home. If not from the perspective of an accident, why would you put yourself at that level of risk when it can be avoided?

>mitigating circumstance affecting their performance?
Then what do you define as mitigating? I'm fine if you have a beer or two over a couple of hours and drive home. Plenty of people do that. I do that. But to compare that situation to some people that down a bottle of rum and then decide to try and get some pussy at the bar? Thats not exactly the same.

>>34658750
>On the other hand you let 16yo asian girls with terrible car control skills drive around in an escalade no fucking problem while livestreaming and listening to beiber
Distracted Driving is a crime in quite a few states bro
Are you seriously defending drunk driving? God you're such a faggot. Driving under the influence literally makes you a less safe driver. I know you think you're some cool cowboy racer who gets his nerves calmed by a little booze and it makes you a better driver but you're not, jackass. Get off the road. I hope your state takes your license and impounds your car. Disgusting. Guns are a right, driving on public roads is a privilege. Don't compare them.

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> people actually defending drunken drivers unironically

>>34659533
You can acknowledge drunk drivers are irresponsible idiots while also pointing out the blatant double-standards and overreactions towards them in the justice system.

>>34650654

That's obviously not a Taco Bell

>>34652925
Fucking hypocrite faggot

You think working while intoxicated is legal? Doesn't matter if your job allowed it either, you should've gotten the liquor licemsed pulled for that dumb shit and you have the audacity to report other people for "illegal" shit. How often were these people bragging about their guns or pulling them out? Zero. You're a faggot and deserve to be jobless, karma will get your fat ass.

>>34650654
You're not a super soldier with a 6th sense for suspecting "danger" you are just a massive autist.

>>34654721

don't be so idiotic to print then, no issue?

>>34654721
You must be autistic

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>>34658888
But I want my penis in the teenage gook

>>34660471
that thing looks like an alien from district 9 with human skin on top

>>34658338
No way. A man that walks around in public looking like that would never carry something as classy as a Beretta PX4.

That is definitely a Hi-point. That bit that looks like a slide safety is just part of the crappy holster I got for it.

Everything about that man screams "I carry a Hi-point that I bought used in a yard sale for 50 dollars"

>>34655117
>Driving while sleep deprived has been proven to be more dangerous than driving drunk yet we don't arrest sleepy drivers.

I've driven after missing two nights sleep in a row, and I once drove with a six pack in my system because my friend couldn't drive a manual.

I can confirm that the former was far and away the more dangerous of the two,

>>34659131
>How is that the same as the average person who is sober going on the road?
if you are ok with someone having the same reaction time and motor skills on the road if they are sober, then what is your problem?
>Because they have made a judgment call that has put others at risk
by default this sober driver with the same reaction time as your dead average drunk driver is as dangerous as a drunk driver. their judgement has nothing to do with it. Is a drunk rape victim not a victim of rape because she was drunk? Do you want the medically retarded to have the right to drive since they didn't willfully choose to be incapable?
>I drink and drive
so if we lowered the arbitrary cutoff to the point where after "cooling off" your .01 bac was still drunk driving you'd be fine being subject to DUI laws? 30 odd years ago it was .12, not .08. it was changed to make m o n e y.