How practical & effective it is as a camouflage in the great

I have no idea what you are talking about to be honest. Is that even English?

Anyway, the point of WW1 uniforms was NOT to camoflauge people. It was purely to detect and sport the "team colors" so to say.
Obviously the more earth-toned the uniforms were, the better they blended in to their environments.

During WW1, proper camoflauge was pretty much always improvized, custom made, and limited to units like snipers.

>>34632956
mud
bury ACU's for a month see what they blend with

>>34632956
whats with all the fucking niggers in that pic lmao

>>34633154
Its the fucking French and they took all the niggers that couldnt fight for other countries

>>34632999
>Anyway, the point of WW1 uniforms was NOT to camoflauge people. It was purely to detect and sport the "team colors" so to say.
yeah that's exactly why they dropped those fancy red pants and bright-blue coats

>>34632999
>Anyway, the point of WW1 uniforms was NOT to camoflauge people. It was purely to detect and sport the "team colors" so to say.
You're confusing it with 19th century (and earlier) uniforms. Feldgrau, khaki etc. were meant to camouflage people (from airborne reconnaissance notably). The french did also recognize the problem, but...

> Adolphe Messimy who was briefly Minister of War in 1911-1912 stated that "This stupid blind attachment to the most visible of colours will have cruel consequences"; however, in the following year, one of his successors, Eugène Étienne, declared "Abolish red trousers? Never!"[44]

>In order to appease traditionalists, a new cloth was devised woven from red, white and blue threads, known as "Tricolour cloth", resulting in a drab purple-brown colour. Unfortunately the red thread could only be produced with a dye made in Germany, so only the blue and white threads were used. The adoption of the blue-grey uniform (known as "horizon-blue" because it was thought to prevent soldiers from standing out against the skyline) had been approved by the French Government in June 1914 but new issues had not been possible before the outbreak of war a few weeks later.[45]

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>>34632956
Here are like 10 videos on camo from The Great War channel.

is OP high?

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>>34633220
crap forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar/search?query=camouflage++

>>34633208
>be French
>use red, white, blue cloth for uniforms
>red dye is made in Germany
>war breaks out, shit we can't get the red dye from Germany anymore guys
>Germany comes to dye the uniforms red personally

>>34633154

dunno, it might be a recent picture.

>>34633166

there were'nt that many nigger fighting for France actually.

>>34633247
Didnt say there were a shit ton of black people fighting, just said they took them in.

>>34633247
Yes there were

>>34633247
407 000 african soldiers out of 7,8 million in the french army (5,22%). Between 1,6 and 2% of the total population of french colonies in Africa were engaged.
Losses were similar to metropolitan regiments.

>>34632999
You're completely wrong.By 1915 everyone had adopted camo. The British had selected khaki as early as 1900 based on Boer War experience. The French refused to adopt until 1915 because of muh red trousers, but when they did it was explicitly for camo purposes.

>>34633224
Nah. Frogs have just discovered 4chan and there as been an influx of them. They have taken over /his/.

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>>34632956
Smokeless powder was far from standard in WWI and the battlefields retained a nearly permanent blue/gray haze as a result, a variable more constant than any foliage. Horizon blue wouldn't stand out nearly as much as you'd think, while remaining relatively easy to differentiate.

>>34633406
The regiments were not mixed. The colonial troops had an anchor on their helmet, not a grenade. This picture is just revisionism in action.

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>>34633220

Post more pregnant girls. Here, have some preggo Anne Frank on me.

Also, the British inadvertently started an entirely new art genre with their attempt to confuse U-boats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage

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>>34635199
Go away

>>34635199

jeff magnum go and stay go

>>34633154
>>34633247
>>34634536

It's a photo from the 2014 WW1 Centennial in Paris

The guys in the photo are reenactors. Possibly even active duty French Army dressed in ceremonial uniforms.

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2014/07/12/un-14-juillet-marque-par-le-centenaire-de-la-grande-guerre_4455954_3224.html

>>34636159
Grand Remplacement.

>>34636159
>The guys in the photo are reenactors. Possibly even active duty French Army dressed in ceremonial uniforms.
And what if I reenact a Zulu or Japanese army with my white friends? Everyone would find it weird, improper and disrespectful. Strangely there seems to be no problem when it comes to white people's history.
I have a deep respect for what colonial troops did in WW1 but I have nothing but disgust for this kind of brainwashing.

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>>34636952

Reenactors' groups can only take whoever's interested so they can't really afford to discriminate.

t. in a Confederate artillery unit. We've got a guy who's half-Japanese American, a father and son (son is half-Mexican), and at least three guys with Native American ancestry. We even had a legit Holocaust survivor with us for an event last March.

>>34636952
For real, >>34637357 has it right. I knew from the moment that I saw OP's picture that there'd be angry /pol/tards REE'ing in the thread.

>>34637357
>>34637401
>burgers in charge of historical respect
I presume you don't see any problem if the colonial troops are reenacted by white people then? (with the wrong uniform, in addition)

>>34636952
>and what if I reenact a Zulu or Japanese army with my white friends?
Go ahead and do it. Literally no one cares about reenactors and everyone already finds you weird.
>everyone would find it weird, improper and disrespectful
Look back to answer one.
>strangely there seems to be no problem when it comes to white people's history
There were no white zulu or Japanese soldiers. Besides the fact that those are terrible analogies it would be a pain to sort the people into even smaller groups than they already have. Also, where does that line end? If it were 100% historically accurate they'd both be throwing out racial slurs to each other and most people just want to have fun having a fake battle.
>i have a deep respect for what colonial troops did in WW1 but I have nothing but disgust for this kind of brainwashing.
And I have nothing but disgust for your level of pussiness.
>o-oh god will people think im a racist
Fuck off you cuck.

>>34637578
>There were no white zulu or Japanese soldiers.
Well, there were no black in the regular army neither...

>>34637578
There were plenty of Europeans fighting in Japan by the 1800s. It's really not much different

>>34637523

If they're willing to suit up and run out in the hot sun to shoot guns, let 'em.

>>34637605
Yea, but no one wants to be a colonial soldier when they could just a basic infantryman.
>>34637613
They weren't under the command of the Japanese.

>>34637523
I don't think anyone actually gives a fuck outside of /pol/ who are only using the excuse of being interested in history so they can be outraged

>>34637357
Oy vey goyim the Union gassed me 10 times at Camp Douglas!

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>>34639165

Grant plz go

>>34637605

https://lesgaousatoronto.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/senegalese_20tirailleurs_02.jpg

tell me why those niggas are standing next to a whitey in the same uniforms

>>34633224
I think he made sense, you just had to know he was referring to the uniform in the picture. I suck really horribly at French, but his sentence structure seemed okay.

>>34632956

Can any experts in textiles tell me how hard it would've been to actually make a camouflaged uniform in WW1?

Let's say I took a time machine to 1914 with a set of BDUs and asked a uniform manufacturer to copy the M81 design. Could they do it or no?

>>34632956
It's not that flashy.

>>34634233
>Smokeless powder was far from standard in WWI
No. Especially not for French.

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I just reverse image searched op's picture, load of russian websites, and the translation is beautiful
>the french have grown by 7cm

>>34634233
Except that the French Lebel is one of if not the first military rifle to use smokeless powder. So you're wrong on both counts. Every major European power was using smokeless in everything except far back reservist weapons.

>>34642695
>I don't know what standard means.

>>34642753
>smokeless powder was far from standard

It was standard. It was the standard ammunition used by the main powers

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>>34642753
>>34634233
>Major military power uses smokeless before the turn of the century

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>>34642804
>>34642753
>>34634233
What's that? Smokeless wasn't only used for small arms? Gee willikers! How interesting. It almost seems like it was the "standard" propellant for firearms at the time!

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>>34642808
>>34642753
>>34634233
The Germans too!? Wow. So that's the French, British, commonwealth and Germans who all used smokeless as standard and had it in service from the last decades of the 1800s.

Need I continue?

Brits having khaki and Germans having feldgrau was helpful to a degree. Not sure any of it made a difference against artillery though...

>>34637357
>had a legit Holocaust survivor with us
>holocaust
>legit
know how we can tell you're full of shit?

>>34643556
>LE HOLOHOAX XDD

>>>/pol/ is that way

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>>34634536
>>34636952
Why not complain about the peak hygiene, swole bodies and lack of mustache, compared to authentic 1914 peasants while you're at it ?

>>34641149
That's a ww2 pic of french free forces, amalgamated from different formations.

>>34642590
Not very hard, in fact there were several camo patterns used occasionally by both sides during the war.
But when you're making tens of millions of uniforms while being under blockade (german) or having your most industrialized region shelled to death and under ennemy control (french), you've got neither the time nor the money for nice details like that.

>>34642605

>especially not for French

Jesus just kys already...