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How does /k/ feel about mega city warfare? Do you think it will rely more on clandestine troops? Or will we attempt to use some space marine power armor type shit?

Either way I'm ready for lunar core /fa/.

https://mwi.usma.edu/time-create-megacities-combat-unit/
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>>34618202
>QTP2T
KEK
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megacity warfare is hell
imagine having to clear hundreds of huge metropolis buildings, you don't know where anyone is, buildings can be rigged to explode, there's traps everywhere, robots dropping grenades from vents, etc


i just think heavy head to toe armour, use of grenades and handheld machineguns and possibly ballistic shields would be used. like the guys from jin roh wolf brigade just more modern
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>>34619029
Thats what i was thinking
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>>34618202
In Mosul it was basically
>Take some ground
>CONTACT
>Call in fire support until ISIS is a fine red smear
>Advance into the rubble of their firing position
>CONTACT
>Goto 1
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>>34619136
Mosul isnt a mega city tho
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>>34619152

No but it has followed the pattern of city fighting since WWII, in that in order to take a city from a determined resistance, the best way to do so is to destroy the city block by block
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>>34619029
being a tunnel rat in nam would be safer

the best part is you can set up a shit load of traps just to fuck with people like a load bang or something falling near by to keep them in a constant state of fear

the stress would just be to much
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>>34618202
I see it in three categories
>level that shit
>then clear rubble

>clear that shit
>but be uparmored to the point where power armor might just be a serious thought

>Everything moves fast and hard with squad level clearing forces for an entire building that becomes a week long op for them
>don't know where the enemy is hiding, so you put in so few people that they never know where you are either, constantly moving and constantly using agility and the form of the building to maneuver past places that typical booby traps would be placed

And PsyOps could do very nicely in such a confined area.
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>>34618202
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>>34618202
Promising thread
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>>34619555
Matt?
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>>34618202

is that karl from inrange?
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>>34619755
>Karl is attempting to lowkey spark up Lunarcore, starting with the hair
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>>34618202
>>34619136
>Fighting against Near-peers in Megacities
>No guarantee of Air Superiority
>MANPADS on every rooftop
>Artillery retakes its rightful place as Undisputed King of the Battlefield

Tony Toni Tone, mang
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>>34618202
Huge utilization of small, cheap, man portable and semi-disposable drones. Anytime you aren't actively attacking a location, the drone goes everywhere first.

Indirect fire/Artillery/Mortars. CAS is at risk circling a city, idling is expensive and its easy to shoot and scoot in a city.

Tech integration becomes a focus in weapons development. Keeping your soldiers informed, preventing friendly fire, directing artillery, properly using drone capabilities, keeping track of enemy assets etc. All of it is harder and more important in a megacity.

I have no idea how technologies like C-RAM and Boomerang are progressing, I could see them being relevant but I don't know enough about them.
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>>34618202
Defense: every kind of booby trap you can imagine. Fucking tons of sharpshooters. Flying squads to pop up in the enemy rear and spread a little hate. Lots of passive sensors to relay intel about enemy movements. Mobile reserves responding to attacks with flex defense. No fixed bases or outposts within 2 miles of the front. Lots of subterranean movement and spoiling attacks. Some drones, not a lot because that's how you let the other side they're about to step into something.

Offense: drones everywhere. Down to the fireteam level. Both snoops and little flying assassins. EW and cyberwarfare to counter defense sensors. Lots of decoy troop movements, lots of blitzes. Lots of body armor and shields on the entry guy, or possibly a police-robot style door knocker. Three pronged attacks- subterranean, ground level working upward, and airdrop rooftop troops working down.

Both sides will use ultralights a lot.
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itd be more like mega rubble warfare after year. like 1/4 soldiers die from dust inhalation
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>>34618202
What is the qualitative difference between besieging a city like Aleppo or Mosul vs. an actual Megacity? If it's an insurgency then an actual army should have enough advantages to counter the natural bonus the terrain gives to the defender. If it's a nation-state then why fight in the city at all? Why not surround it and seek to win the war to create a political end to the fighting elsewhere?

Are there even people properly theorizing about this? Are there different schools of thought about how approach a megacity the same way we had different schools of thought about airpower before we got actual experience with it? Or is it one of those things that we are pretending doesn't exist because solving it is hard?
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>>34622679
I remember some CGIed animation from the DoD that came out last year talking about the importance of preparing for a future of megacity warfare. Didn't show a lot of concrete advances but at least they're considering it.
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>>34622679
Check this pic of a true mega city and a swerve your own question
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>>34622950
Tokyo?
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>>34622979
nvm, it's Tokyo. Fire and flooding would be a bitch.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEPdOZbyzbw
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>>34622679
>is there actually anyone properly theorizing about this?

RAND corporation has put out a few analyses on the future of urban warfare and possible strategies and tactics to aid in urban operations.
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Just hack into their government-mandated brain implants and give them aneurysms or something.

There, problem solved.
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>>34619555
>Jammit
Fucking kek
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>>34619136
>shitskin land
>mega cities
lel

>actual mega city
>enemy hides in the metro tunnel from your air support
>you've just wasted your resources
Now what ?
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>>34622359
No joke, based on the thumbnail I though your pic was a trebuchet hurling a burning hay bale
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This article is evidence of our army's unhealthy fixation on cold hard battle calculus and a compulsive NEED to engage and destroy the enemy in direct and fair combat.

You can hole up in your mega city if you'd like; by doing so you remove yourself from the equation and leave me free to go after and eliminate strategic targets--whether that be supply lines, oil refineries, farms, electricity production, etc-- and militate your ability to fight. And I won't fire a shot doing it.

Cities possess little strategic value beyond demoralizing the enemy and manufacturing unless they command a strategic location.

In any event the army isn't fighting alone; we have air and sea assets capable of leveling large swaths of city if need be.

You can piss and moan about civilian casualties and barbarism all you'd like but "war is cruelty. There's no sense in trying to refine it. The crueler it is the sooner it will be over".
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>>34623229
>What are bunker busters and thermobaric munitions
>what is collapsing tunnel entrances
>what is starving the enemy out

The composition of the tunnel may be different but we've done this before from the sands of Iwo to the mountains of Afghanistan.
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>>34622359
This. We have to restructure our military and get multiple JFOs and JTACs assigned per battalion down to the platoon level so we can properly coordinate fire and relay accurate, up to date info. Then keep maneuvering.
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We'll march our troops down the streets and let lawyers draw up RoE that get everybody killed because the goal was never to win the war in the first place.
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>>34623576
/thread
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>>34622679
The idea with a megacity is a city large enough where it's virtually Coruscant, or like in gone with the blastwave. The primary example would be the direction China's headed in.
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>>34624070
You're aware that the military defines "city" as anything beyond a tiny little village in the countryside, right? With massive urban sprawls like Tokyo, they already qualify for megacity. Or to use an actual real-world term, metropolis. People are just lucky that modern wars haven't yet been fought in an area like that. Can you fucking imagine trying to fight in a place like Manhattan? You can't airstrike it or artillery it, if even one of those buildings falls over it'll take half of the inner city with it and create impassable road blocks forever.

Even worse is Tokyo. I've been there, it's crazy. In the entire inner city area, which is fucking huge, no building goes less than six or seven stories. A single one collapsing would disable the surrounding tight roads for ages. We need a new type of tank, some sort of infinitely-armored brick with four separate 40mm turrets and a giant dozer blade for that type of environment.
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>ywn operate inside Kowloon with your bullpup rifle and a bulky lasersight

why even live
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>>34624826
>you will never get shanked by a drug dealer in Kowloon while trying to operate
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>>34624826
HK$35 monthly rent? Damn, that's cheap!
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>>34622450
C-RAM is expensive and large, relegating its usage to protecting FOBs most likely. Slaving a Bradley's chaingun to a radar system may have some promise though. TROPHY is already a tiny CIWS for tanks, but it's built more for RPG/ATGM usage than anti-artillery.
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>wafare is 100% about LE BOOTS ON LE GROUND racking up a good K:D and that's it

why are americans so immature?
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robotic infantry in the really feisty areas.
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It will depend on which countries are doing the fighting. Russia or China are willing to expend lives militarily. America would probably initially use troops, then transition to small areal and ground drones, as >>34622450 mentioned, as we're far more willing to spend money than lives

Depends who is running the show, the circumstances of the war, and how flexibly they're willing to allow ROEs to be, as well.
If you've got an Obama or GWB style personality (ie, someone who cares about the media's opinion), we would spend incredible amounts money and heavily restrict our methods of fighting to prevent casualties, both military and civilian.
If you've got a more Stalin style personality in charge, we'll probably clear larger buildings with autocannons, and smaller buildings with grenades. It wouldn't surprise me, in the right set of circumstances, to see chemical weapons come back, being used for area denial. That could help in restricting access in sewers, subways, etc.
An existential crisis will also increase the likelihood of less restricted methods of fighting.

It's difficult to say because the circumstances can vary so greatly. And, all of that being said, I'm just speculating. I'm sure RAND has probably got all of this planned out and has in depth statistical analysis of likely scenarios and tactics, but I don't have access to that information and I don't get paid to produce it, so I could just be talking out of my ass.
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>>34623481
>>34624920
>let's allow shitskins flood our county and breed us out!
>If you kill your enemies they win!
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>>34618202

Urban warfare's future is a 10mm 30+1 Glock loaded with Tungsten bullets, with ARs if the situation requires anything more. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

The real changes happen with communications and situational awareness. Presently, things like reconnaissance drones were only available for the military. Now that they have come down in price, expect most larger PDs to adopt them. The "battle network" becomes the "police network"; blimps tethered to checkpoints provide a static eye-in-the-sky while full size UAVs replace helicopters and trunk quadcopters allow individual officers to better track suspects. Information flows increase as officers start getting fancy heads-up-displays (like some soldiers already have) which lets them view said UAV imagery on the fly. This will make them far more effective as it'll be harder for them to loose track of someone. This also allows police vehicles to become much larger (and thus top-heavy), from sedans to SUVs as speed and handling is rendered less important because any individual officer can themselves afford to loose track of a suspect.

It won't be much different than today, just more effective. By far the most aggressive police will still need to be their transit officers, because that's where all the shit accumulates and where any shit in the system stops trains and makes people late. But Giuliani solved this problem twenty years ago.
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>>34625139

>America would probably initially use troops

No we won't, that era is long over. We now have a bunch of alphabet soup agencies underneath the DHS umbrella to do the job national guardsmen were formerly tasked with. See the Bundy Ranch standoff, if it had happened fifty years ago it'd be guardsmen showing up and not armed BLM agents. Same for inner cities, look at how effective the LAPD is despite the LAPD being a corrupt mess of a police agency. Each officer is more capable than the individual guardsmen or solider anyway, both in terms of training and arms.
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>>34625008
It would look more like a pair of legs with a gun attached and a small extendable manipulator arm.
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>>34625377
What are you even talking about?

We're discussing aggressive actions in large cities, why do you think CONUS police operations are relevant?
Furthermore, if you're trying to discuss a CONUS defensive operation, there is absolutely no way that the military is going to sit by while police conduct defensive operations inside US borders.
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>>34625811

>implying they couldn't

Regardless if .mil operations are gonna happen innacity it's going to happening with big bombs from 50,000 feet, not from soldiers on the ground. Civilians will be instructed by radio to evacuate or risk being collateral damage.
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http://insct.syr.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Kaune_AWC_Report_Combined-mwedit042016.pdf

http://armypress.dodlive.mil/adapting-the-army-to-win-decisively-in-megacities/
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>>34625008
I like how they gave that robot a dick
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mega city warfare speculated to be a thing in 8 years...

>tfw infantry helo dropped between sky scrapers to fight mega corp bandits who control the lower city and have military grade weapons and complete disregard for collateral damage
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>>34619029
By that time, it'd be autonomous seek and destroy units.
Clear a sector for complete and total depopulation and allow flying autonomous drones to fly through the buildings and kill every human shaped object they see.
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>>34625545
Nah, androform would be where it's at.
The urban environment is designed for humans.
Being androform would mean they wouldn't need to adapt to an urban environment. They already are designed for it.

Two arms would also mean an ability to stand back up and also to provide balance
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>>34626941
>tfw reinstalling this game and finding it doesn't work on modern hardware anymore
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>>34627012

that and the awful console-to-pc configuration
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>>34626941
>8 years
You mean 80. This just don't change that fast. 8 years ago was just 2009 and the world hasn't changed in the slightest
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>>34626944
By that time people will have perfected mylar lined couch camo that will allow them to perfectly imitate the shape an IR frequency of common furniture types.

Checkmate dronefags.
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>>34626590
Name a country that can project force to CONUS.

wat is logistics
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>>34627041
The world has changed a shitload, probably more than it did the eight years previous. It just did so insidiously, subtly, changing our perspectives so we don't even realize what's different.
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>>34627012
muh pc gaming
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>>34627116
Literally no one bought the console version, don't even try.
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Wont megacity combat essentially be urban warfare scaled up to 11? The lessons learn from the past wont be thrown out of the window or anything since we have been thinking about this since the 70's. We will just be intergating technology that cold war folks dreamed about to be better at those tasks.
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>>34627146
If we're talking about what people think of when they think of megacities, it's complicated by how the line between terrorists, gangs and enemy soldiers will be nonexistent. Invading soldiers will be fighting all at the same time.
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>>34619555
>power glove
>so bad
>batman beyond talk
>80s Anime punk hair.
Kek
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>>34624881
It's also in the ghetto and your wages ain't exactly high like in America.
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>>34627146
that drawing is fucking awesome
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>>34627167
If we are talking about a war between two powers where you got soldiers from both sides slugging it out in the city, terrorist and gangs will be forced to fight both sides since they will be shot by both sides. We also cant forget the civilians getting shot in the middle but it happens naturally.

But video related is maybe how future urban warfare will be, especially against insurgents and terrorists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16JP0YRKv4

>>34627295
Still dont know who made it. Read something that some british magazine was behind it maybe.

Gona dump some old soviet doctrine to city warfare (just 9 pages). Weird enough the russians did not follow it in the first chechnya war.
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>>34627041

http://www.economist.com/node/21642053

urban expansion occurs quite rapidly, The military is already talking about the types of combat we will encounter

>>34627146
That is what the military is saying, heavy emphasis on increased population and more psyops since collateral damge might not be an option

also evolving landscapes and unique population control schemes will need to be considered
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>>34627486
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>>34627441

easiest combat would likely be in smart cities or eco cities, since normalcy and structure would be obvious indicators of when something is wrong. precision teams would be best suited here

in the gang and fortress cities, you would need to compete e with enemy and the structural forces of the community. this is probably where conventional combat rules would take effect

in the chaos city there are no rules, this is where indiscriminate artillery fire and air strikes would work best
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>>34627500
As we can clearly see, the soviet doctrine is slightly outdated and built for a conventional war, not so fitting for the future without change.
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We don't need sci-fi shit for a mega-city war.
Look at Lagos, Nigeria.
20 million people, doubling every 10 years.

When that applecart is upset, then shit will hit the fan, real fucking hard
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>>34627486
that would make a bitchin carpet
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>>34627741
lagos is so decentralized that you could probably send millions of civilians fleeing as refuges from one part of the city into another and the other half of the city could still continue to operate independently.
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Think the Battle of Berlin, turned up to 11. Brutal close combat, days or weeks to clear a single block, and not much habitable left by the time it's done.
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If a war in a megacity ever breaks out ever single sniper on both sides would immidiately cream their pats at the thought of what would essentially be a turkey shoot
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>>34627857

or rapid advancement followed by no escape corridor
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>>34627857
No way the world will let that happen again.

If we're talking like real honest to goodness war, not this faffing about in the middle easy, then the big dogs are going to relax their restrictions on chemical warfare.
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>>34627868

>what would essentially be a turkey shoot

middle east sniper/counter sniper games but on the scale of thousands.
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>>34627893

>this white phosphorus was for smoke screening and not intended to level 15 blocks
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>>34619839
No, it's too hot in AZ for lunarcore, unfortunately. Maybe northern AZ.
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>>34623481
This anon is right, lose your logistics lines = lose the war. Cities should and likely would be bypassed in a war between major powers.

That said, they ARE valid targets if you are trying to occupy/subdue the populace, like US entering Baghdad scaled up an order of magnitude.

I doubt we will do appartment x apppartment clearing against say, China, but i think we could see it in Africa, SE Asia, and the ME (dubai, etc).
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>>34623359
I'm right with you
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>>34627770
What is even better is that you can hang it on the wall, get extra insulation and learn about soviet tactics at the same time when you stare at the wall.
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T-35 modernization project is a go
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>>34623481
I'm not sure you're grasping the scale at which we use "megacity". We're talking cities that stretch for hundreds of miles long that are tall and dense as well. A city this large would likely receive a lot of resources thru underground freight or air, which are both troublesome to interrupt. Plus, this is not even considering that the city doesn't possess some form of self sustainably. You gotta plan for every contingency and counter they may have.
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>>34624920
Attrition is and always will be the most surefire way to win dumbfuck
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>>34628531
Funny because you'd think Leningrad would have fallen in those thousand days given how they were cut off.

Never underestimate some people's ability to survive and be a pain in the ass. We depleted the Vietnamese jungle and were still having problems with the Viet Cong.
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>>34624920
>wafare is 100% about LE BOOTS ON LE GROUND racking up a good K:D and that's it

>why are americans so immature?

because they fail to grasp the meaning that war means you should strive to dominate your enemy... annoying your enemy until you loose interest just means you are a bully.

In the ideal outcome of war, the enemy, seing how superior you are will surrender to recover and make peace with the victor in an effort to prevent total annihilation.

alternatively, total annihilation

the united states has for decades focused on putting minimal effort into actuially fighting, and maximum effort into making it look like it can fight...

>muh next gen aircraft, tanks and infantry systems

>muh highest expenditures in defense spending

and yet all they seem to do is sit around and kill a few goat herders every now and then. A full commitment of the combined forces would make America neigh unstoppable(save for superpowers) , but the meme keeps people complacent
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>>34629222
This. Trips confirms.

>>34629236
The problem with the US military is it's stuck in Cold War era thinking. We don't need a massive military, we need to get rid of a lot of personnel and make the standards a lot higher to have soldiers who aren't knuckle dragging retards. We have one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world. Coupled with some serious isolation that's to two oceans, we kinda have an advantage given how advanced our navy is.

Here's my suggestions:

Get rid of the Nasty Girls and other reservists. That's a waste of money.

Make the Marine Corps just the Naval Infantry and part of the navy completely.

Reduce a lot of the army. We don't need a massive army, we need a smarter, smaller, leaner, and meaner Army.

The real power lies in naval abilities for a country to prosper. It's no coincidence all the powerful nations (barring say Switzerland which is landlocked) have powerful navies. Notice even China is trying to get into the Blue water naval game? It's a real powerful sphere of influence booster.

Who is our biggest threat? It's not China, North Korea, or Russia.

We really don't have one. Aside from some sand niggers doing the random terror attack.
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>>34629383
You're right, but once a military gets big, it's almost impossible to shrink it.

Remember the last words of Septemius Severus to his sons.
>Be harmonious with each other and enrich the military. Scorn all other men
It'd take a near collapse of the Roman civilization to reduce military spending after that
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>>34618202
Total War.

If you don't care about civilian casualties, then just use thermobaric munitions. The problem we have had in cities is that we treated Muslims like humans.
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>>34629383
>Nasty Girls
>t. E-4 pogue with no deployments
Except:

2/3 or more of the Regular Army has never deployed.

The RC makes up 60% of the force in theater.

WTF does the Army do all day to justify it's existence?

We only deploy the same divisional combat units: 82nd, 101st, 10th Mountain, and SOCOM units. Really, we could take the AC down to about 100k and have the same level of readiness. The RC needs to double in size. The NG is already an Operational Reserve.
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>>34629422
Like Eisenhower said, beware a military industrial complex whether it is sought or unsought. Having such a massive group is pretty fucking horrifying given how much influence it has on public policy.

It's obvious how it trickles down to police forces now. They have massive arsenals and a garrison mentality. Instead of being part of the community they obviously act as if they are a patrolling army.
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>>34623359
Me too. Weird weapons enthusiast group think.
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>>34629518
That's cute sandbag filler. The Nasty Girls invariably have been the worst people I've dealt with. A lot of them are out of shape, not up to date on their knowledge and have outdated equipment. It's hilarious how pathetic they truly are.

You also missed my point. We don't need a massive military. Deploying it is fucking stupid as shit. Unless we are going to make Afghanistan the next territory of ours like Guam or Puerto Rico, we need to pull out and let those sand niggers just kill each other while living in a dump.

It's a waste of taxpayers money to pay Nasty Girls to play soldier once a month and have a faggy jamboree in the woods every year for 2 weeks.
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>>34629589
Listen Joe, I know you are 3 years into your first enlistment at your first duty station in Leg Land, and you got this shit all figured out. But you need wash out your headgear and spend some time over at /pol/. Our (((foreign policy))) is based largely on defending the (((petrodollar))).

Now, polish your sham shield, and go hide in your room until final formation. I understand they are looking for a detail for post clean-up.
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>>34623524
Tbhfam I think this would be a good idea if we ever go into megacities
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>>34625008
Dude, nice Vanquish art
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>>34629383
>smaller, leaner, meaner Army.
So the Marines?
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>>34629673
Nasty girl just mad she's not real military.
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>>34618202

This post confuses the fuck out of me. On one hand, I can't imagine that anyone that isn't a cadet majoring in DSS would post something from Modern War Institute. On the other, I have yet to meet a DSS major that dresses in a manner that even approaches standard /fa/ggotry.
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Pic related or orbital bombardment as attackers and defenders would use super scaled Iron Dome or CIWS.

Infantry in a mega city are going to be relegated to moping up or evac civilians/extracting vips and intel.

Halo: ODST is going to become a reality before 2100 rather than 25xx like in the game.
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>>34630195

He said leaner and meaner, not dumber and poorer.
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>combat in mega cities
Step aside fellas. I got this.
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>>34623481
Cities are often built around major ports, and major highways often run right through the cities. If you want to capture the port or use the highway to move your shit, you have to engage the whoever is defending the city.
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>>34630751
Not an arguement.
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>>34618202

Honestly? If you take Roman or Mongol approach to punitive attacks, all you do is deny outside essential supplies from going in. Which may seem pretty hard, but if you do the math (which we would), and decide that the cost in lives (plus other expenditures) exceeds the value of the anticipated damaged infrastructure then all you do is destroy the necessities that the city MUST have access to.

Power is a minor necessity, but in pretty much any location that isn't zone free, power stations and such are located on the outskirts of a city. The larger power generating plants themselves even further out and not in the city at all. Unless you're in Texas or India or China, you don't put a coal plant in the middle of your hab. These are easily targeted, and depending on their construction could be considered soft-targets (Nuke Plants are hard targets by default, but they are always outside of the range of the city, so they are soft in a way.) Most large cities have no direct source of water, and require it to be sent in via outside piping. These are all easily to locate, and you just destroy them with a few well placed explosives by EOD well outside of the city limits. Food is an even larger concern, this is always trucked in. To feed a city you need a truly jaw dropping amount of transportation moving in and out at all times, round the clock. Otherwise the stocks in the city will dry up within 48 hours or less due to panic buying, and general limitations.
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>>34618202
>>34631305
Cont.

Prior to actually doing any of this though, you have PsyOps do their thing for about three days. Let everyone in the city know that if you remain in the city limits that you will be considered an enemy combatant, but if you leave now, you may do so unmolested. There is a historical precedent for this, but it caused a lot of people to get butthurt. But so did dropping two nukes, therefore in my opinion you can easily just ignore the crocodile tears and do whatever you want -- assuming you have the will of the military behind your actions.

The enemy combatants at this point either pull an ISIS, and detain as many people as they can under penalty of death. Or they surrender as well. The former is done so that they can blend, and use them as meat shields/suicide bomb fodder. They've done this, consequently we can expect any similarly ruthless rogue elements at play to do the same. These people are already dead, just write them off as casualties of war and go about your business as usual.

Then you do the necessary surgical strikes on the amenities. Wait approximately two weeks, all the while taking satellite and aircraft recon of the hotspots in the city that remain (pretty easy to do - look for the places with power). After two weeks you will have a thoroughly demoralized, possibly starving, definitely dehydrated enemy that is low on supplies and options.

Then, and only then, do you send people into the city to the probable locations of enemy combatants. Pen them in as necessary, and call in airstrikes to the level the buildings if they're grouped up in large numbers. Otherwise do typical door kicking ops and whittle them down little by little until the city is yours.

Even assuming this takes place in the future, it's a moot point because by then the batteries are all dead, the generators are low on fuel, and they don't have enough manpower to control an entire city - you do.
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>>34624826
anytime I see images or video from Kowloon, I get these really strong feels in my gut. I have no idea why

if I believed in reincarnation, I'd say I lived a life there once, but thats the only way I can think to describe this feel
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>>34619029
>Mfw we'd just nuke or drop rods from God on it
What is in a megacity? Mouths to feed that hate you and the (((financial sector)))

This isn't like Stalingrad where they had factories and war material that could and was repurposed as soon as possible.
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>>34631408
>(((financial sector)))

You mean your bosses?
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>>34631305

>target the food
Grown in the city, probably underground or om the rooftops, due to the size of the city. If it was grown outside the city it couldn't be distributed fast enough.

>target the water
Water would be recycled inside of the city and any that wasn't would come from desalination plants or underground aquifers.

>target the power
Power would be produced in underground coal/nuclear plants. If it was produced outside the city you would lose too much in the powerlines.

These are massive cities that are hundreds/thousands of square miles big, all of the necessities would have to be produced inside the city itself.
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>>34631097
Marines are more retarded. Every intelligent marine I've met laments it just like I do for army infantry. Intelligence standards need to be higher.
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>>34631374
It's kinda how our ancestors lived. A long time ago in cities. It's a primal urge.
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I imagine shit like this would be very common in megacity warfare.
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>>34622950
nuke
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>>34618202
Couldnt take the DLAB , too many people that day were taking the asvab ( which has priority , along with people staying at a hotel for MEPs ) . will attempt to take it again in a week or so.
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>>34628409
HMS TOG III, diesel-electric drive with 4 superfiring turrets (2 forwards and 2 aft)
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>>34631828
We live in cities now you idiot
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>>34626941
Game?
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>>34632866
Binary Domain
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>>34623481
>Cities possess little strategic value
Rural fetishist please
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