Well, this guy isn't a fan of AT&T https://www.you

>>34608767
Cause att suck. Miss too payments an they shut you off

>>34608806
Better than Mediacom who shuts me off at least once a month even with the bill paid.

Well they are parked in front of his drive way... I would have just had them towed though....

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>>34608806
>don't pay your bill for two months
>they turn off service

WOOOOOW

>>34608767
There is literally nothing wrong with shooting AT&T trucks.

>>34608806
I hate ATT as much as the next guy but come on now Cali.

>>34609080
The truck did nothing wrong.

>>34609203
>>34609039
>>34608869
Taking him seriously was your first mistake.
Replying to him was your second.

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>>34608869
>Mediacom
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEDIACOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As someone who works in the utilities industry this shit is scary. This wasn't even that bad. many times utilities poles are on people's properties on a utilities easement. So you go into peoples property/backyards and start working, often without permission.

Many times when people discover you they are not very happy. I've had several people pull guns on me and have had many guns pulled on the guys that work under me.

It is standard procedure to announce yourself at any dwelling on the premise (knocking, yelling to announce yourself). If there is no answer you enter the property if they say no you have to call the police and get an escort onto their property.

When there is no answer many times there are people who work the night shift and didn't hear you knock, or they come home when you're already in the back yard, or they ignored the door hoping you would go away and are surprised to find you go back anyway. This often leads to confrontations.

If people have utility infrastructure in their property and their property is fenced and locked you typically cut a link in their chain and install your own universal keyed utility lock, or if there is no chain you can spice into you just cut their lock and replace it with your own that they don't have a key to, in some cases effectively locking them out of their own property.

It's a fun job that leads to some interesting situations to say the least.

Also, Oralia Ortega is a qt3.14

>>34609508
what the actual fuck

where do you live?

>>34609632
I live/work I California primarily under SCE and PG&E.

But this isn't some weird California thing, utilities easements exist everywhere. My company contracts out to utilities nation wide and I've personally worked on engineering projects in San Antonio and Atlanta and it's the same deal there with entering properties on utilities easements. Effectively the utility that owns the equipment on your property also owns a 3 foot path to that equipment. And any joint pole entity that also is given rights to that equipment has permission from the owning utility for them also to access that pole via their easement. And further any contractor of the utility or contractor of the JPA entity that was given permission by the utility ALSO has permission to use that easement to access the equipment on said persons property.

There's just a shit load of it going on right now in California because ALL of SCE's poles (1.5 million of them) are getting fielded (surveyed) on a CPUC mandate. That's a LOT of back yards and rural properties field techs are going into on a daily basis.

If someone shoots a utility worker they are properly fucked. And I'm pretty sure it's going to happen one of these days on this Edison CPUC mandate.

>>34608767
Of course it's in fucking Florida.

>>34608806
Pay your bills on time nignog.

>>34609733
wow. i'm in australia and i've never heard of that being a thing, ever. here's what they have to do in my state to handle easements.

https://www.urbanutilities.com.au/development-services/our-services/building/easements

>An owner or body corporate must give reasonable written notice before they can enter a lot or common property to carry out work under a statutory easement.

>The BCCM Act does not specify:
>how many days' written notice must be given, as reasonable notice will depend on the particular situation
>what a written notice must include.
>In an emergency, notice is not required.

telstra (the company that owns basically all of the phone lines in australia) had to fiddle with the lines to another property last year, and since the line they wanted to handle went through my property (about 3 meters of it, not much) they sent me a representative to make sure it was okay. then they came back the day after to do the work.

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>>34609733
>when the state sets up monopolies all over the nation for your company and the state authorities cannot venture onto a property beyond a locked gate without a warrant but you have utility lines on everyone's property thanks to rural electrification and municipal building codes so you can violate everyone's privacy and trespass as you please in order to access your property that nobody wanted there in the first place
>also you own the air

>>34609905
yea, that way does makes more sense on it's face. But honestly i don't see how ANY amount of utility work could efficiently get done if we had to notify every home owner in writing every time access is needed on their property.

Hell, half the time you don't even know exactly which property and what address the equipment is located at which means sending someone out there specifically to give notice. Google Earth only helps so much.

>>34609976
It's really funny when it gets into access and constructions around utilities equipment. Especially in the older urban parts of Southern California and the really old suburbs.

People end up building on/around the utility poles and associated equipment. Understandably they want to maximize the use of "their" property. People end up building sheds, garages, animal enclosures, around utility poles, or worse with utility poles as an integral structural member of these private constructions.

Technically they (the homeowner/resident) weren't allowed to do this and any time the utility needs access to that equipment they are free to "deconstruct" any non-appropriate constructions on/around the pole. This means a team of linemen/groundmen come in and literally tear the shit out of your property to get to a pole to do their work. Sheds torn to the ground, concrete ripped up, gardens destroyed, enclosures knocked down, etc. and there is legally nothing the homeowner/resident can do as they were legally in the wrong.

>violate everyone's privacy and trespass as you please in order to access your property that nobody wanted there in the first place
nobody wants the utilities poles there, but everyone wants the power and communications services they provide. Power and comm lines can't just hover magically above your property anon. Not saying the situation is ideal but to say no one "wants" the utilities infrastructure is naive as hell.

Most new construction is built with utilities underground. Typically it's a better arrangement but the construction of new underground utilities and worse, the upgrading of preexisting overhead infrastructure is extremely destructive to public and private property. And extremely destructive if something needs to be dug up to be fixed.

>>34610208
>>34609976

Also, there was a case where a business (automotive garage in LA) had expanded their shot to their property line on the street.

On the street there was an utility pole that had a down guy and anchor just inside the garage's property line.

The garage's solution was to literally build their wall around the downguy with the anchor inside the building. Imagine a cable going into a wall, coming out the other side on the inside of the garage and attaching to a big steel rod coming out of the ground, through the concrete foundation.

The downguy wasn't large enough and had to be upgraded for safety reasons on the pole it was supporting.The brick wall was structural and un-permitted. The city had to be involved and half this guys garage had to be demo'd after sitting there for 30 odd years because he or whoever originally expanded it in the 80's didn't know about utilities easements or building permits.

And then the stories of people who try to remove equipment from their property. I could go on about that for a while...

>>34610203
>But honestly i don't see how ANY amount of utility work could efficiently get done if we had to notify every home owner in writing every time access is needed on their property.
well, your country is different. here, attempting to trespass (or what looks like trespassing, most people just think the pavement is owned by the council and that's it) without a proper reason will get you and your company crucified by the media.

>>34608767
>violated his NAP
I see nothing wrong with this.

>>34610329
Enjoy getting you and your child sex slaves nuked

>>34608767
>so terrified
>stand a few yards away pointing camera at him

>>34608767
>Florida
Typical #Trucklivesmatter #notalltrucks

>>34610347
Did you just threaten my future loli slaves' welfare? Enjoy your reaper hellfire missile carepackage. It should arrive any minute through your roof for your convenience.

>>34609508
Lol AT&T California here, we had a team meeting about this this morning, these guys do the exact same job I do and while we've dealt with difficult customers and tons of crazy shit happening we've never had anyone get shot at like this, we're usually able to handle difficult customers 99% of the time by just talking to them and clearing up any confusion but yeah having to enter property ends up in some pretty interesting situations

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>>34610285
>will get you and your company crucified by the media.
Yea, but what are they going to do? Get their power from some other utility!?!

>>34609508
That's why you deserve to get guns pulled on you faggot bitch

>>34608767
Why is Florida so exciting?

This is why when you buy property, make sure you own all the land rights that you want. Generally it's a good idea to buy land without any utilities on it and out of the way of any future infrastructure projects, like spillways, roads, and power or gas lines. That includes surface land and mineral rights so oil and gas companies can't buy the underground portion of your property and start digging. Also if there's any water whatsoever, make sure you understand the ownership of it. Standing water is different from moving water, but both are restricted in what you can and can't do with them because of crazy water zoning laws and legal owners being way upstream/downstream from your property (including different states). Also make sure there's no fuckery going on with the airspace over the property, because a few years after you purchase the land there could be a runway or helipad next door with planes buzzing your driveway
>tl;dr
Contact a good property lawyer and surveyor before you make a major purchase like land

>>34610372
no, the media is going to crucify you, some consumer advocacy group you've never heard of is going to bring you to court and milk you, your union is going to hold a strike because something something not enough money by the way did you watch a current affair last night we need to distance ourselves from you it's not about the state of origin being tomorrow night or anything i promise seriously now give me my fucking sick leave, and then the government is going to put a law in place that says you are legally required to give homeowners at least five blowjobs before entering their property. and then the council will start asking for some money to maintain the lines i promise it's not for my cocaine habit or anything.

i wish i was joking.

>>34608767
typical revolverfags. Old, Slow, Fat and belligerent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9CxgHdlo4s

When will Florida Man's reign of terror be put to an end?

>>34610374
If you enjoyed that, just wait till you hear how we're authorized to deal with any doggo's we come across on your property.

Ever hear of a dog stick?

>>34610382
>>34610471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_qY0O9tmaE

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>>34608767

>>34609252
#TruckLivesMatter

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>>34610404
>the media is going to crucify you

nigger the electric&gas jew can set your whole block off like a firecracker and there is nothing you can do about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Bruno_pipeline_explosion

honestly its high time we start slotting these fucks

>>34610495
Like a heeling stick?

>florida man shoots utilities truck

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>>34610707
>On January 13, 2012, an independent audit from the State of California issued a report stating that PG&E had illegally diverted over $100 million from a fund used for safety operations, and instead used it for executive compensation and bonuses.[48]

>>34610721
ATF stick

>>34610691
It would be ok if they were Chevys

>911 operator hears gunshots.
>"YES IT'S A REAL GUN!"

>>34608767
So Boomers are now Blammers?

>>34610721
>heeling stick
Yes. They are 1/2" wood dowels slid inside a piece of PVC for strength, with a grip on one end and a solid tennis ball attached on the other.

Officially they are for 'distracting' the dog and keeping them at bay but they are solid, heavy, and near unbreakable so they can be used as a weapon. You are permitted to and guys do beat the shit out of them and kick them, especially if they come running up aggressively. You're also permitted to carry dog/bear mace and spray them at your discretion.

We had a case where one of my guys literally teed of on a dogs head with a 5 foot aluminum tripod with a surveying laser on the end. Shattered the rugedized laser's body on the dogs head.

So, if there was a guy in the boom, is that considered kidnapping?

>>34610790
Ah yes, the Nokias of trucks.

>>34608767

This is exactly why in a civilized country, guns are illegal or restricted for extremely specific circumstances.

>>34610865
>civilized
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>34610865
Have fun with your 'peaceful' migrants.

>>34610865
and buying tea spoons needs you to be 25 y.o.

>>34610838
More like the colostomy bag of the truck market

>>34609508
>Cut their chain, switch the lock
Yeah no. In South Louisiana cutting chain and letting someone's livestock out is a great way to get killed. I have an easement on my property. Utility guys knock, if they don't get anybody they grab a key from the lockbox they paid for on my fencepost and go through.

>>34608767
fucking florida
>police chief is an extra from seinfeld with and IDF tattoo and an accent like larry david
>darker than molasses
>last name is ZOGby
holy fucking shit they werent joking around down there

>>34610962
>Yeah no. In South Louisiana cutting chain and letting someone's livestock out is a great way to get killed.

How are the livestock going to get out if the gate is locked back genius?

>Utility guys knock, if they don't get anybody they grab a key from the lockbox
neat that you have such an arrangement with your utility. Not everyone is so lucky.

>>34610987
He's also an alligator.

>Cops show up.
>See fat old guy with gun.
>See black AT&T worker on the phone.
>Shoot the worker, beat the body for hours for resisting arrest.
>Thank the older gentleman for disarming that dangerous black man for them.

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>>34611077
>Florida, life as it should be

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>>34610865
Yeah instead you just get thrown in jail for not having a cable subscription.
Eat cock.

>>34612069
TV license*
it's so fucking stupid I forget the name sometimes.

>>34610798
If you did that to my dog, nobody would ever find your body.

>>34610798
>We had a case where one of my guys literally teed of on a dogs head with a 5 foot aluminum tripod with a surveying laser on the end. Shattered the rugedized laser's body on the dogs head
You realize you're just incentivizing people to shoot you on sight, right?

I'm a pool guy and regularly go into people's backyards unannounced. To be fair I'm generally carrying a pool pole, so it is pretty obvious. Had a guy pull a little revolver on me and my father last week. Literally in the middle of netting a pool some dude comes up, asks who the fuck we are and my father exchanges some "pleasantries" with the man. After about 30 seconds he pulls out this little revolver and my dad just tells him to pull the fucking trigger.

It was just some neighbor/relative who was drunk and is crazy. Not the owner. They've had problems with him before too. Oh well. No hard feelings.

>>34612069
the more i read of that image the more i want to vomit

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>>34610798
This is why you get shot at faggot.

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>>34612144
I haven't been in the field in a long time. I work in a cozy office doing transmission design work.

Someone is going to get shot, it's only a matter of time. I have no doubt in my mind.

>>34612133
Same here anon. I don't hit dogs and I never even carried the stick. Only time I came close to hitting a dog is when I shook the fence and got no feedback on a property, so I went into the yard to get to my pole. Suddenly a wild eyed puppers came charging at me when I was probably 75 feet from the gate.

I got ready to fend him off my tripod and he stopped about 10 feet away barking. I walked back to the gate and got out without incident.

Most of the time if you rattle the fence and the dog comes out to protect his yard, you can soften him up with some friendly talk behind the fence and get a gauge on whether it's safe to go in.

I'm a dog lover and would never unnecessarily hurt someones doggo. But everyone in my industry isn't like me.

pic related. One of my sacrificial ATF meat shields.

This kinda shit is why I don't work for Verizon anymore.

>>34612212
You fuckers shut off my net because I torrented anime.
Fuck you.

>>34612189
No one's gotten shot at yet as far as I know from my experience in the CPUC projects.

Many people have had guns pulled on them or been confronted at gunpoint though.

Largely in the rural areas, and usually on large properties with marijuana grow operations or similar.

If and when someone does get shot at, that homeowner is royally fucked. The utility worker they are firing at is legally entitled to be there and wearing a high vis vest and hard hat and not allowed to go near the dwelling beyond knocking on the front door or walking around to get to the back. There is no defending that sort of shooting in a court.

Whenever a incident with a gun occurs with an Edison employee or one of their contractors, they send out their Corporate Security muscle to investigate and make contact with the home owner and give them a stern talking to and education on the legal merits of a utility easement.
Edison Corporate Security is made up of off-duty and retired LEO's who do carry. If the home owner is further confrontational or resistant local LEO gets involved and utility workers get escorted onto the property.

>>34608767
His cell service and internet probably drop out every 10-30 seconds, and people can only take so much of that in the information age

>>34612229
Yes, because the geezer was getting pissed that he could not update his instagram when he wanted.
And it was the perfect selfie.

>>34612227
So, how fucked is this old man?
I mean, there had to be a worker in that boom shitting his pants.

>>34612236
It wasn't the one time, anon

It was the hundreds of times over the course of a year, that service he pays for failed him
It was all the unsent emails to his grandchildren, and all the emails from his grandchildren he could never get to load properly

They violated his NAP a long time ago, and have done many times since

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I hate living in South Florida.

>>34612264
Man, Florida Man is unstoppable!

>>34612247
And because of that the block is without internet.
He sure showed AT&T.

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>>34612277
ye, dude is relentless

>>34612243
Very easily can be charged with brandishing, vandalism/destruction of property at minimum.

If the DA really wants to fuck him assault with a deadly weapon could be on the table. Especially considering he was brandishing a weapon and actually fired it several times at a vehicle that was 'occupied'. Actual injury doesn't have to take place, only the reasonable belief of the victim that the man could have injured someone and the fact that he had and fired his gun in anger at the victim's vehicle.

The DA could put this guy down for some serious jail time.

But more likely it sounds like a 'white ccrime' type of siuation where he was "brought in for questioning" for a long period of time. given a slap on the wrist and released. Assuming the utility workers didn't press any charges themselves.

The Utility could easily file civil damages against the guy.

The fact that they weren't on his property and were on a public through-way renders any possible defense he might have had moot. he was the aggressor and there is video evidence.

>>34612286
It's better to have no internet than to have Somalia tier internet

He didn't shoot at any of them, he just wanted to tell them to be a better company
He didn't do it in the best way, but maybe they'll listen now

This is true civil disobedience

>>34612295
Wouldn't stranding the worker up there count as kidnapping?

>>34612264
>Florida Man accused of calling 911 80 times for "Kool-Aid, burgers and weed"
This is when my sides shot into orbit

My best friend when I was younger was from Florida. Son of a bitch had crazy fucking stories. Forget the details but one time he had a like, stove pan full of shit, forget if it was human or animal shit, and he and his brother didn't know what to do with it so they chucked it over the fence into the neighbor's yard,
and it landed in their pool and came open and turned the whole pool brown.

One time he T-bagged a black nurse during a checkup but made it look like an accident.

And there was one chick from his WoW guild who called him just to masturbate while on phone, so he does the obvious thing and tags in and out with his brother to confuse the fuck out of her, and ends up recording all her moaning and putting it to the song ROXANNE, since that was her name, and blasting it over the phone on their last call.

>>34612302
You don't go brandishing a gun and shooting it at tires/trucks in a residential area where a stray bullet could hit someone because you want to file a complaint.
He didn't tell them shit, he just made gun owners look insane.

>>34612307
I guess if the DA wanted to get creative.

>>34608767
>that shitty street
I pray my town doesn't ever look like that.

>>34612324
He disabled the one trucks tires, the other one with the raised boom he targeted the engine specifically.
Unless I am wrong on hydraulics, kinda needed to get that guy down, and in the summer.

>>34612339
if he really wanted to get creative, he could argue that potential damage to the hydraulics system while someone was in the bucket could prove fatal and constitute attempted murder.

But like I said, this was in the south and the guy was old and white. He'll probably get off with a stern talking to by the Sheriff or at worst some time in a court house and fine and community service.

>>34609508
back when i was a cable guy i had to kill about 3 dogs because of this shit

>>34612354
this is most states first time offenders get off with least amount of punishment

>>34610208
Yeah, that's really funny, trample over people's property and then destroy their things, no wonder people shoot at you.

>>34612367
Don't build your shit on shit that you don't own.

>>34612320
It's not his fault Liberals are dumb and don't understand the NAP

>>34610495
>authorized to deal with any doggo's we come across on your property.
desu man, I get how the world needs shit like this to get power everywhere, etc, but if you actually take enjoyment from the little power trip of being able to go onto other people's property, beat their dogs, and destroy their shit, you're the kind of nigger that'd be executed in early America.

>>34612373
>Liberals.
>Owning gu-
Never mind it was a revolver, and he didn't know how to use it.

>>34612367
But people don't shoot at me anon. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>34612385
>I can't read, the post.

>>34612385
I'm not defending the way things are. I'm just telling you how it is, and essentially has to be for your lights to stay on and your internet to keep pumping out it's daily stream of porn.

Read the rest of my posts before you jump to conclusions about what you think I do or don't get enjoyment from.

>>34612367
That's the thing, it isn't their property.

>>34612404
He's from the south, he thinks he owns eveything that dun camed on his thur land.

>>34612404
Yet I bet they have to pay property tax on it., maintain it, and are likely to be liable if someone injuries themselves on...funny how that stuff works.

>>34612404
This is why I built a 2 foot wide corridor between two 9 foot tall security fences with a "gate" that had one of those flimsy utility company locks. All cement, it was oppressively hot in summer months and the humidity clung to the wood. It was like a prison inside a jungle.

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>>34612316
>and ends up recording all her moaning and putting it to the song ROXANNE, since that was her name, and blasting it over the phone on their last call.


YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR THAT DRESS TONIGHT

>>34612416
>Yet I bet
So, you don't actually know, you're just talking out your ass. Good to know.

>>34612416
Yes, that is exactly what you have to do to shit you don't own Anon.
You really cracked this case! Hopefully you know how to maintain the cable box in your yard and keep the power running.

>>34612404
Any utility equipment on private property IS the utilities property, and building on it is not permitted or legally defensible.

The Utility also usually owns a 3' easement from the start of the property all the way to the equipment for maintenance and construction access. This is usually not a fixed easement, it pretty much means no matter what if a utility worker is on ""your"" property heading to work on the equipment, they are legally on utility property because of that easement.

This also applies to power meters on everyone's house. The Utility can legally walk to the power meter on every house so equipped because there is a legal utility easement from the edge of the property to that power meter.

Hell in many cases even if a utility pole ISN'T on your property, the simple fact that your house is fed from the pole adjacent to your property and the triplex running from that pole to your house is property of the utility means they can legally go on your property to reach the attachment point on your house for their conductor.

You don't have to like it, but you just try to tell them they can't do it or threaten them with force. You'll have LEO all over your ass and it will get done one way or another. That's just the way utility easements work.

>>34612386
fucking around aside

I actually got a good chuckle out of how he was firing it
I'm actually not surprised he didn't manage to hit anyone, even if he had been trying

>Sounded like a .45
>Big and clunky.
Huh, I guess a Judge finally managed to kill something.

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>>34610865

Stuff like this is somewhat a part of the reason why I think TEOTWAWKI isn't too far fetched.

>>34610495

Dogs are their owners property. Id love to see you abuse someones dog, they get absolutely ventilated by the owner in a castle doctrine state.

Niggers like you deserve a slow painful death.

>>34612935
>castle doctrine state
Defense of dog is not a legal justification for lethal force against another human, especially if they're legally in a place they can be (as the utilities people are, read the fucking thread). If you ever follow up on your toughguy, subgenius bluster, then enjoy prison.
>niggers like you
>said by the guy who values a dumb animal's life over that of a human (who is legally in a place they can be and doing a job that benefits everyone [unless you hate utilities or something] )

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>>34608767
>Florida

>>34609508
There are places including mine where homeowners request permission from the city to relocate this utility poles from their yard or backyard after which the company is obligated to do so and relocate the pole..
I guess there is no such thing in Murrica.

>>34608767
Thank fuck I left Florida

>>34612153

You trespass and clear peoples pools for them? Wut?

Fucking burgers...

Do you expect them to tip you or something?

>>34612420

I like you.

>>34612996

A value a doggos life more than a niggers.

>>34613075
50 claps and three GOOD JAAAABs is usually enough

>>34612438
Must be a nice job being able to oggle feel up kids with protection from the law.

>>34608767
>Florida

>>34613075
he said unannounced. Someone is already paying them to go back there, just not at any specific time, you dunce.

>>34613142
I see you also value shitposting on /pol/ higher than correct spelling.

>>34613203

SO burgers cant remember that they hired someone to clear their pool?

>>34613303
Can you read?

The guy who pulled a gun was the drunk neighbor watching the house.

>>34608767
only in Miami is Cuba so far awayyyy

>>34610382
100% humdity year round does funny things to people. Only been here two years and I feel myself changing.

>no longer feel rain even if it's a torrential down pour
>can't notice changes in temperature
>skin has turned into a hardened keratin substance in reaction to 13lb insects
>sunlight nolonger burns but energizes me
>mfw

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>>34613753

>>34610734
>>34610707
>>34609733
That's some typical PG&E shit right there. Of all the utilities they are one of the worst simply because of their scale. They figure even if someone does figure out they did something hilariously illegal and unsafe they'll just bury it in paperwork and courtroom dances until they die of the cancer they gave them.
I do work in the energy sector and while most of them try to do the right thing, these guys are mustache twirling boardroom villains. The amount of money that gets tossed around and wasted is insane, then they pull money out of safety, not because of shortfall elsewhere but because they don't give a fuck about anyone.

>>34610382
this>>34613753

Florida is literally the Australia of the US.

>>34613027
You can do that anywhere. It just costs an average of $15,000 to relocate a utility pole. And that financial obligation falls on the one who wants it moved.

People can't just demand utilities infrastructure be moved for free. Utilities easement agreements are signed off by the home owner at the time of purchase as a condition of their purchase. If they don't agree with the easement they are free to not buy the property or pay out of their pocket for the Utility to relocate.

>>34614245
>And that financial obligation falls on the one who wants it moved.
Ah so thats where you guys are stuck I actually didn't pay shit 5 guy crew just came worked for few hours and moved the thing.
15K is a straight ripoff nothing else.

>>34612227
>they send out their Corporate Security muscle to investigate and make contact with the home owner and give them a stern talking to and education on the legal merits of a utility easement.
>Edison Corporate Security is made up of off-duty and retired LEO's who do carry.

that's a remarkably efficient way to escalate a situation.

carrying a pistol, on someone else's property, after they told you to fuck off already. it's surprising there haven't been more incidents.

>>34614258
depends on the pole. If all you have in your yard is some rinky dink secondary pole with a triplex on it, It's possible they would remove it at request.

>15K is a straight ripoff nothing else.
You know not about what you speak
The majority of poles on private property are primary power poles and require circuit shutdowns, circuit redesigns and approval (what I do), permitting, readjusting easements (bringing in legal, which can take for fuckign ever and drive up costs),then actually dropping the pole and retensioning wire, coordination with joint pole entities to move their facilities (power utilities dont touch comms and vise versa, so you'll need two different crews to get the job done) etc. etc. etc.

It is a very man-hour involved process and very fucking expensive, just in billable labor alone.
$15k is a fucking bargain.

>>34614925
They do the same in other countries, except you don't pay for it.

>>34614668
Utilities have to have access to their equipment. It is literally a matter of national security.

First the property owner is asked nicely. If the home owner escalates, the situation is escalated to match.

Typically the home owner backs down when Corporate Security and/or LE informs them that they haven't a legal leg to stand on to deny utilities access to their easement and their equipment.

These people literally signed a paper at time of purchase or time of install saying they are okay living on a property with utilities equipment and they are okay with utilities having unrestricted access to that equipment. Them getting butthurt about something they agreed to already gets them nowhere.

>>34614941
>except you don't pay for it.
>socialized public energy

Oh, you still pay for it.

>>34614925
>primary power poles
It was exactly that,I paid nothing.
Man I understand USA No.1 but I cant justify stupidity.

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>>34609508
>>34609508
>their property is fenced and locked you typically cut a link in their chain and install your own universal keyed utility lock, or if there is no chain you can spice into you just cut their lock and replace it with your own that they don't have a key to,
I have a mighty need to shot you in the fucking back of the head and anyone who thinks this is fine. This doesn't sound like it's legal anywhere in a state without retarded laws anyway

>>34614965
Not 15K out of my pocket I dont.

>>34614925
So how about I plant you your fucking lamppost outside o' mah probbardee and you can whip your sparky string around it on your own bill sonny jim

>>34614941
Even if a company doesn't charge the individual getting the pole moved, they are still getting reimbursed for that cost. And they do it via increased rates for literally everyone.

I'd rather the dumb fuck that wants the pole moved off his property pay for that shit then literally have to pay for his home improvement with each and every one of my power bills.

>>34614960
>>Utilities have to have access to their equipment. It is literally a matter of national security.
no doubt, I remember the clause in my mortgage contract.

I get it, it just seems foolish to send a "corporate security" aka citizen with a gun to someones house to demand access. Why not just send a tech with LEO escort out immediately?

Has anyone ever fired on the security team? I can't imagine they'd have any special protections legally.

>>34609508
>>34610495
It makes me a little happy to think of all the people like you buried in someones backyard. Last time a utility truck guy was here he dropped his wallet and i threw it in the trash lol.

>>34614986
>he thinks its that simple for companies to increase prices in eu
kek

>>34608767
>hialeah
The only thing that's surprising is that the guy looks white.

>>34614971
You literally agree to exactly that when you buy the property.

If you sign a paper saying that you accept the utilities easement rights on your property, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the utility exercising those rights to access and maintain their equipment.

>shooting a utility worker that is legally accessing their easement and equipment when there is literally a notarized document with your signature expressly giving them permission to do just that.
Enjoy prison.

>>34615006
>implying I'd ever buy a house with utility on it
touch my dog and I'll slot you faggot

>>34614989
>It makes me a little happy to think of all the people like you buried in someones backyard.
There are no instances of a injured or missing worker that wasn't electricity involved in recent memory. They literally have a truck out in front of your house with a GPS tracker and like 25 people that know where they are and what they are doing at which address on what piece of equipment. Some dumb fuck that tries to kill a worker is not going to get very far before they get thrown in assfuck prison.

>>34615006
I have a house with utilities and its a hobby to fuck with them. I always burn my trash when they come. Haha we have horses and I pile the horseshit near the poles so poor servant scum like you have to crawl in it. I always let them come in and get started crawling thru the shit then make them leave and come back with a cop just to waste their time. I know all the cops and they think its funny as fuck too. I threw out some faggots wallet too.

>>34615022
>implying I'd ever buy a house

We know anon. Renter's life for you.

>touch my dog and I'll slot you faggot
apparently you didn't read the post where I said I'd never hurt a dog unecessarily and posted a picture of my own?

Learn to read fag.

>>34610382
Heat, humidity, loose gun laws, segregation.

>>34614978
Lmao Eurocucks like you will try to find any minuscule reason to bitch about our country. Sad really.

>>34615054
You remind me of my uncle who died alone because no one liked him.

>>34610653
If he would've pulled out an XD .40 with an extendo after the coke it would've been perfect.

>>34614988
>I get it, it just seems foolish to send a "corporate security" aka citizen with a gun to someones house to demand access.
This is exactly why they are off duty or EX LEO's. They (hopefully) have the knowledge to deal with people and are authorized and trained with their weapon. Sending Bojack the armed security guard would be extremely foolish.

>Why not just send a tech with LEO escort out immediately?
LEO doesn't care enough for this to be a reliable means of resolution. LEO isn't on utilities payroll and they don't really care if no crime has been committed. Technically someone pulling a gun on a worker isn't a crime either. So Security handles it they are specialized in handling these exact types of situations.

>Has anyone ever fired on the security team?
Never that I've heard of. Doing so would be very foolish.

>I can't imagine they'd have any special protections legally.
None beyond the fact that you can't say they are trespassing as they are employed by the utility and thus entitled to access to the easement. If someone starts shooting at them I would assume they are well within their rights to defend themselves.

>>34615041

>Piling electrolytic piles of shit near power poles
>Thinking you are being smart

No by all means, keep it up. Next time the junction goes down and I roll up to your house and find you doing the streaky bacon in your pile of shit...

>>34615022

Should have read your contract a bit more thoroughly huh? You let your dog out and that fuckers trying to bite me, thats on you.

No point getting salty at us guys. If it was in your tenancy agreement or in the terms of your home sale, the power company's have the right of way. The lights need to stay on, not you or your dog or your meth labs getting in the way off that.

Or your trees.

>Utility Arborist here

>>34615041
Holy shit stop pretending to be an adult Mr. Tough Guy. You clearly are 17 and don't need to be on this board. Your story is fucking garbage and makes no sense.

>>34615054
>renter's life because you wouldn't buy a house with a power pole on it
Eat shit
>Should have read your contract a bit more thoroughly huh?
I'm not buying a house with a power pole on it

>>34615041
so edgy bra.

You can totally fuck with works, it's not an easy job. Especial if you have some prick property owner.

>poor servant scum like you
lel I never leave my comfy air conditioned office except to go drive my paid for company car home on company gas.

>>34615125
>>34615101

>>34615112
Go roll in my shit to power my house for pennies peasant.

>>34615125
Then why are you bitching then faggot? Jesus fucking Christ people like you are pathetic.

>HURRR IMMA ACT LIKE A HOT SHOT SO EVERYONE KNOWS I HATE UTILITY WORKERS AND THAT IM TOTALLY NOT A FAGGO!

Wow. So cool.

>>34615128
Yes I can fuck with them and its funny. They are shit people who deserve suffering. Fuck those poor commies and fuck you.

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>>34615140
>>HURRR IMMA ACT LIKE A HOT SHOT SO EVERYONE KNOWS I HATE UTILITY WORKERS AND THAT IM TOTALLY NOT A FAGGO!
Man, you really get worked up over no one liking you

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>>34612193
That husky is THICC

>>34615079
>15K to move something thats not even mine

>>34615130
>Implying you own anything beyond a highpoint and a broken down trailer

Lets stop pretending now, champ.

>>34612264
Leave. And don't come back.

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>>34615155
>not owning a house with a power pole so you can't bust locks or come in my yard at any time means I only own a trailer and a hipoint
Hmmmm

>>34615147
So are you saying you are too stupid to read the paperwork before moving in somewhere? Don't wanna deal with that? There are plenty of other places where you wont.

>>34615155
Hahaha you make like 13 an hour you poor shitty commie government slave. I wouldnt take a shit for what you make an hour.

>>34608869
Hey, me too.

>>34615162
Don't worry your methlab is safe for now Jethro.

>>34615176
>still butt devastated he can't come into my yard

>>34610987
Fuck off you faggot antisemite

>>34612404
>it isn't their property
The pole and service stuff isn't. Everything else around it is. The guy said they will knock down sheds, etc.

>>34612316
Floridian here. I used to throw all my dogs shits into my neighbors pool on a weekly basis. Not bringing that shit in my house.
Rip puppers.

>>34615133
>pennies
You do understand those groundmen make 75k starting before their unlimited overtime right?
The linement make 94k+ plus unlimited overtime.
Average take home is in the $140k range here in CA.

You know not about what you speak.

>>34615184
>Thinks i'm the hard hat guy
lol I just think you are an inbred moron if you can't handle someone fixing a power line or think it is acceptable to pull a gun on someone for no reason. I'd fucking shoot your dog just for fun faggot.

>>34612247
LOL fuck ancaps

>>34615145
Hes a Malamute. Malamutes are always more thicc than Huskies. Significantly larger too.

>>34612996
Actually in some states defense of property is legal grounds for deadly force, so where the dog is considered property, if you're attacking the dog, it is legal to use deadly force to stop you.

>>34612354
Miami is not the south. The "south" stops at orlando.

>>34615193
If the shed is built around or built on the utility equipment. Those unapproved constructions will be removed. We dont just knock down people's sheds for fun.

>>34612410
Miami ! = the south

>>34615201
>Here in CA

Oh so thats why your a sniveling liberal. Get off K your nanny state doesn't let you have knives.

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>>34615207
>>Thinks i'm the hard hat guy
>you're a renter's life if you don't buy a house with a utility pole that allows us to stop by any time!
>you're a redneck with a trailer if you don't let us onto your lawn
>w-wait no, I'm not the hardhat guy!
Again with the inbred insults, this is pathetic.
>I'd fucking shoot your dog just for fun faggot.
You can't shoot anything without guns you edgy 12 year old

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>>34612410
>south

>>34613228
I hope you get raped and murdered. Pedophiles don't deserve to live

>>34612996
In FL you can use lethal force to defend property including dogs and cars.

>>34615238
Dude don't even respond, hes from fucking cuckifornia. He's just on /k/ to spew on about the down your throat totalitarianism they live under in commiefornia.

People like him are the ones jerking it to bbc porn, they get off on getting beaten like a dog.

>>34615201

>Feel's good

It's hard work but it beats NEET bux and if you can get away with doing Line surveying work...

Guy's were not evil communist scum coming to raid your house and murder your dog (Seriously though you let that little shit of the lead and it bites one of us, fair game, should have trained it better), we are there to do a job. Either because the infrastructure is unsafe, or because there's a supply issue near by. Really it's to your benefit. Let us do our jobs and move on.

If you start waving guns around or being threatening, we call the cops. Who then remove you from the area or camp out with you at home, so we can work. What would you rather have?

>>34613034
Don't come back.

>>34615101
LOL stop acting like youre so badass because of your job. You're a pleb blue collar fag

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>>34615098
>off duty or EX LEO's. They (hopefully) have the knowledge to deal with people and are authorized and trained with their weapon

>LEO
>trained with their weapon
>mfw

thanks for answering the q's though, didn't even know utilities had a corp security team. this has been interesting.

>>34615235
>>34615238
Do you guys think you are talking to one person?

>liberal
what exactly is liberal about anything Ive said.
The private property owner has a signed agreement with the private utility company. Expecting either party to hokd to that agreement is not "liberal".

Stop slinging meme words you dont know the meaning to.

>>34615256
Maybe in cuckifornia, here i would walk with a pat on the back and a handshake for shooting you without calling a week ahead as a trespasser.

Stay in your containment state you beaten dog.

>>34615272
>Do you guys think you are talking to one person?
Doesn't matter, given you're both spewing the same bullshit

>>34614978
Not all at once.

>>34615254
>california
As i said before. Utility easements are the same and handled the same nation wide. Ive personally worked on projects in Texas and Georgia with identical easement rules. Read the thread.

>>34615228
>If the shed is built around
Yes, I understand. But you must also be able to understand that if some guy comes home and finds you in his backyard and his shed in pieces on the ground, he's going to be upset, and if you start saying "easement" and "unapproved construction" people are going to be pissed and it sounds like the government fucking them.

Was he in the wrong to build an unapproved structure? Yes. Do you legally have the right to access the equipment? Yes. Does that matter to some guy in the moment? Probably not.

Also, I'm sure plenty of "unapproved constructions" are actually sheds small enough to not need zoning approval for a structure.

And I'm sure at least a few guys get a chubby when they come onto some property and get to demo some guys shed or hit his dog with a stick. MallCop syndrome, the smallest bit of power.

>>34615287
>>california
California has drastically different laws compared to other states, so easements may actually be handled differently compared to Texas and Georgia

>>34615274
Wrong. As I said utility easements are the same pretty much nation wide.

>>34615101
>Utility Arborist here

man one of the Duke Energy guys in FL doing this is a fucking master. Had some trees growing into a major line, and the guy comes through and cuts a "V" through the middle of a 20 tree line to fit the power line. can't even tell from most angles, looks aesthetic as fuck.

nice job utilitybro

>>34613228
How do I get hired by a utility company?

>>34615166
>>Hahaha you make like 13 an hour you poor shitty commie government slave. I wouldnt take a shit for what you make an hour.
ur dumb. linemen get paid pretty well.

>>34615300
I literally work for a large nation wide utility contractor. They are not.

If a utility has equipment on a property. They have a contractual and legistlative authorization to access that equipment unimpeded.

>>34615312
That guy was a troll. He doesnt work for a utility.

If you want to work for one start with a contractor doing survey work and move your way up from there acquiring experience and knowledge along the way.

Pretty much no one gets hired into a good job at a big dog utility right away. You have to work up and gain experience through the contractor and sub contractor company chain.

>>34615312
Be black

>go to repair pole in some hick's yard
>dog comes up to me
>tripod him away from me
>owner comes out and starts threatening me and shit
>tell him same story about easements
>gets angrier
>tries to hit me
>police came and arrested him
>had his dog euthanized

>>34615128
I love how every time anyone has directly come at you people and said "Wow, that's some real shit violation of our rights, fuck you," you immediately meet it with epithets, and then once that doesn't work, you've consistently gone "well lol I don't fucking do it I'm so cool I just stay in the air conditioned office ha" like that changes anything.

Not that that guy isn't being an edgelord, but there's a pattern here.

>>34615339
No shit m8, I don't jack off to kids either. Thanks for the info tho.

>>34615367
He's an off topic troll and this is a troll thread with nothing to do with guns.

>>34615346
based

>>34615346

Yea, you tripod my dog and at best you're going to end up sucking food out of a straw. Might go to jail over it, but my dogs are my babies.

And fuck yo easements nigga. Sovereign territory. I actually bought a piece of property that didn't have electric for this fucking reason. Y'all can stay the hell off of my shit.

>>34615388
He's a troll, he works at 7/11, and this is a troll thread. They can't tripod your dog dude, they can't do any of this shit.

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>>34608767
I'm a verizon man after this.

>>34609266
>implying I dont do it for the reaction

>>34615388
>>34615400
t. inbred hicks

>>34613075
It's not trespassing if someone invites you in, but forgets to tell everyone else about you coming over.

>>34615101
>Utility Arborist here
You guys are incompetents. Last time you came through my neighborhood you cut the wrong side of the road.

And when you came back and did the other side you left shit hanging on the wires. And in one case, grown around a wire.

wtf does it mean to tripod a dog?

>>34610798
Missouri HP here. I don't know what the law is in California, but I can state as a fact that if you assaulted someone's dog here in Missouri, on, or just outside of their property, regardless of your easement, they, or any legal resident or visitor of that property would be completely in their rights to shoot you in defense of their property, in this case, their dog. This attitude of "I can do whatever I want on this easement and the surrounding property owner(s) have no say", is ignorant. Someone will get hurt because of that attitude. And to be quite honest, if I got a call to secure a scene where a landowner shot some utility punk for assaulting his dog, I would be more concerned for the welfare of the dog.

>>34615367
But it's not a violation of your rights AT ALL.

If a utility worker comes on your property to service utility equipment it's becasue there is a legal agreement between you and that utility giving them permission to access the property to access their equipment via utilities easement.

They are there BECAUSE YOU AGREED TO IT.
No one's rights are being violated.

>you've consistently gone "well lol I don't fucking do it I'm so cool I just stay in the air conditioned office ha" like that changes anything.
I'm just telling people how it really is. I don't work in the field but i know how it is in the field and ran a team of 60 workers in the field before.

Whenever someones says "I" should be shot for going in their yard or doing XYZ to their dog, I'm simply pointing out i would never be in their yard because I literally work in an office and get paid far too much to do field work.

>>34615370
Kinda seems like you were asking how to get a job that would enable you to jack off to kids in their own back yard m8

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>>34615388
Not saying I don't agree with you, but if you did assault a worker that protected himself from your dog, you would be liable for criminal and civil damages.

If you have utility equipment on your property you're better off just not leaving your dogs out. less chances for an incident and if they really are your babbies you wouldn't>>34615400
want them outside and uncomfortable in the middle of the day anyways.

>He's a troll, he works at 7/11, and this is a troll thread.
>implying
pic related.

>They can't tripod your dog dude, they can't do any of this shit.
An utility worker can absolutely tripod your dog if he feels threatened and access your property without your permission if you have utility equipment on your property.

Try actually reading the next rental agreement or mortgage you sign.

>>34615642
A person protecting themselves from an aggressive dog by force on a property they are legally accessing is a perfectly acceptable pretty much anywhere in the country. You may not like the situation but every person has the right to defend themselves from injury by a dog and legally the welfare of the person is paramount to that of the dog.

No one said you can do whatever the fuck you want when accessing a property. But a dog charges you you are perfectly entitled to defend yourself by force.

>>34615642
>if I got a call to secure a scene where a landowner shot some utility punk for assaulting his dog, I would be more concerned for the welfare of the dog.
Well good thing it's not up to some clueless tire biter. That homeowner would be fucked.

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>>34608767
As a Verizon employee. I find this fucking hilarious.

Fuck all of you manchildren in this thread screaming about their dogs.

I am a comcast employee and ive shot 2 dogs (supervisor allows me to carry) because ive felt threatened, fuck all of you putting your dogs' lives above a human's.

>>34617815
That is the single most retarded and obviously bullshit thing I've ever read.

>>34617815
>comcast
>the bringer of data caps

You deserve death.

>>34610277
>And then the stories of people who try to remove equipment from their property. I could go on about that for a while...
i want to hear you go on about this

>>34617815
>comcast
please shoot your upper management instead