When did you realise that .45 is twice as powerful as 9mm

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>>34586552
>Han shot first
>Greedo shot first
>George shot first
Really makes you think

>>34586552
>perp's gun was split it two
I'm going to have to get a .45

>>34586552
It's not fucking no guns faggot. I hate u no guns faggots so much spewing your bullshit.

>>34586552
I still seriously believe its shot placement>caliber but then again I've never shot anybody.

>>34586679
post guns

>>34586715
This, but people need to focus less on caliber and more on bullet selection. Ask any hunter.

The nigger had akimbo .40s, actually.

>>34586739
very true. I figure it's whatever you're most accurate with+most lethal ammunition for that caliber. whatever it may be

>>34586659
audibly kek'd

>>34586552
>You know this is Austell, Georgia pawnshop
>You've been in this pawnshop
weird feeling

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>>34586734

Do what da note sez

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>>34586746
not as good of a thread, tho

>>34587005
That AK is so blatantly airshit you retarded faggot.

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>>34587043
Lmao no guns faggot I like how u didn't reply back ith a gun just kill yourself retarded no guns cuck faggot born,

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>>34587089


Still waitng no guns faggot

>>34586734
>>34586552
>>34587043
Lol no guns faggot btfo like the cuck skelly boi he is.

>>34587089
>>34587107
>>34587199
You're like a 12 year old

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>>34587225
And your a no guns faggot lol still waiting faggot
Born

Such a realistic BB gun how did I do it?


Lol faggot no guns.

>>34587089
>>34587107
>>34587253
holy shit who is this
who in the everloving fuck is this assblasted

>>34586552
Agreed, faggots can't handle 45acp.

>>34587005
>>34587089
>>34587107
>>34587253
Airshit.

>>34587280
He's beyond booty blasted. He's beyond anally annihilated. He's...

Shitter shattered.

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>>34587253

Not the no guns faggot you're talking about, but jesus Christ I can tell you have extreme mental issues and are most likely sub triple digit I.Q.

Makes me reconsider allowing universal gun ownership.

>inb4 you call me a no guns

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>>34587315
Nice 7600. I have a 760 myself.

>>34587315
Nice airsoft collection.

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>>34586552
>45 is twice as powerful as 9mm
>45= (9mmx2)
>Power x mag cap = effectiveness

>.45
2x7=14

>9mm
1x17=17

It makes one wonder.

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>>34587280
I'm dat nigga u ho ass no guns bitch

Only thing dat got ass blasted was ur mom after I hit her with da dick.


And obviously your assblasted since your a no guns lol
>>34587315
Where on 4chan u dumb faggot how else do u want me to respond to you nice projection n nice airsoft btw faggot no guns

>>34587355
>Not using double-stack mags
2x13=36

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>>34587312
>Shitter shattered.

>>34586659
*unsheathes 1911*

>>34587416
>having slenderman hands
hmm

>>34587385
you're a stupid ape, that's what you are.
quit playing with your dad's toys before you hurt someone valuable

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>>34587471
Projection

Before I sold .45 since .45 is a fucking bullshit weak cal.

>>34587280

man how sad are you nogunz?

>>34587385
Oh I see a basketball american
Makes sense now
>obligatory "no u"

>>34587523
not nogunz, so as it being I have my license in the mail because I got it the first day i was legal for it
I'm a bystander senpai, just saw this autism infesting my board

>>34587544
>not nogunz,

prove it biaaaaaaaatch

>>34587552
reading comprehension of a retard too nice

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>>34587523
Right lol it's easy on /k/ since 99 % are noguns

Pic of homie holding my ak before I stripped da coming of bolt carrier.

>>34587524
Latino american mayonise boi post ur guns no guns

>>34587544
Your a no guns faggot and this isn't ur board no guns new fag.


>>34587564
Fuk ment coating

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>>34587225
I mean you asked for a timestamp, and you got one. Now you're being a massive bitch without posting your own.

>>34587560

so you admit you are nogunz?

>>34587564

lift more weights and less burritos

>>34587599

probbably some butthurt bongistanian

>>34587593
>he can't read
fine by me shitskin

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>>34587619
nogunz until the license shows up senpai
already have guns on hold

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>>34587619
Dats not me no guns here's pic since unlike u no guns I don't care


>>34587623

Ur pidgeon shit skin tho lol a no guns one too.

>>34587626

No u

>>34587651

soooooo you are no gunz and autisimed out because you are thaaaaat pathetic you need a license?

why anon just stop posting. no one believes you.

>>34587670
>manlet latino
k

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>>34587670
N no dats a different heat hat his a fitted mines a snap

>>34587681
>Lives in Canada
>Was minor
>Want gun (AR)
>Turn 18
>Go to course day of Birthday
>Wait for license
What a fucking retard

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my dad taught me that at 5 .
where were you at 5 , I was shooting.
getting ready for this.
we are gonna need moar ammo guys.
/point at pic

>>34587687
I'm a sensitive thug anon dat really hurt me a lot.

>>34587698


I don't believe you live in canada, for all we know you are from pashtun. And a nogunz.

How does that feel being nogunz?

>>34587714
Almost wanna post passport
eh nah I don't give a fuck about a raving schizo

>>34587730

but you wont becuase you are nogunz, nopassportz, nojobz, and nogunz.

Sad!

>>34587751
jij
sure thing kiddo

>>34587765

relying on childish rebuttles only reinforces that you are nogunz. noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogunz. negaguns. singuns. you don't posses firearms. you are without arms. you are without percussion instruments.

what i'm saying is you are nogunz

>>34587796
I am nogunz because I'm waiting on the license
Is this supposed to mean something?

>>34587807

that you are without guns. Sad!

>>34586552
Killin' niggas like he killed the Star Wars franchise.

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>>34587702
>open or die
fucking christ

>>34587355
>1911s are the only guns to ever be chambered in .45 ACP

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>>34586552
Never, because that's fallacious.

>>34587303
nigga

>>34587513
record a desk pop and upload

The real question is why .45 and not .46?

>>34586552
This video just never gets old. That nigger was dead before he hit the ground. Just fantastic.

>>34586659
He had two guns you dipshit

>>34587315
Boy gots the H&R break action. Why the fuck have you not chopped that shit down to 18 inches, shit isnt worth $200, might aswell make it some arm punching fun.

>>34586715
Reason why they still teach basic rifleman skills versus giving everyone big guns with ridiculously large calibers.

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>>34587981
Am I the only one who is so fascinated with the other rejected .45 acp pistols from the trials? I want a savage .45 so bad.

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>>34586552
>tfw this video keeps making me want to ditch my G26 for a 30
Fuck I miss shooting a .45 So comfy.

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>>34587670

>>34587702
>Open or die
I kek'd.

And then I was spastic.

>>34591791
That baby is more doomed than my ass after eating Thai food for three days in a row.

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>>34586552
>Trying to rob a gun store

>>34587312
>shitter shattered
I lol'd

Once upon a time we didn't have niggers committing millions of crimes against whites a year

Funny how that works

And yet if someone ran on a segregationist agenda, they would lose in a land slide.
Country of fucking hypocrites.

>>34586552
did sprinklers go off?

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Bump
45 is designed for crackheads.
9mm is for target shooting and polite Europeans

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45 stronk

>>34593239
yes, that's the power of .45 stoppin powa baby.

>>34587670
>posing like he's hard in his mom's bathroom

>.45
>half the size of .9
>twice as powerful
yeah youre retarded op

>>34587416
>Math skill of a typical .45 owner

>>34587385
Fuck off callum

>>34586552
>literally twice as POWERFUL
Never because it isn't.

>has slightly better and perhaps more importantly more reliable performance IRL because of it's moderately greater energy, surface area, and momentum.
Around the time i realized that Fackler and Dr. Roberts were only slightly less full of it then everybody else in their field.

who the F U C K thought it was a good idea to rob a gun store

>>34597131
what is

pls respond

>>34597523
is gun, anon

>>34597547
i knew it

>>34597557
Lwrc >>34597405
Can you elaborate on this?

>>34597557
https://xtremegunsandammo.com/product/lwrc-smg-45/

>>34597570
Any part in particular that has your jimmies in a jam?

the whole .45 is better than 9 millimemer(per round and to a slight-moderate degree) or that roberts and fackler shouldn't be treated as the end all be all of terminal ballistics as many people seem to think?

>>34597609
I want to know why 45 is better than 9mm and if it's worth the capacity trade off. I'm between a 1911 and a p320

>>34597789
Honestly I think there isn't enough difference in energy between the rounds to make an appreciable difference in damage to tissue. Both of these are small rounds being fired out of very short barrels so the only real factor is where you hit the perp. Less recoil and higher capacity of 9mm allows for better placement in rapid firing and also just more firing overall, making it a better carry caliber.
This is all my own opinion and I make no claim that my thoughts are objectively correct.

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>>34586552
Why did they have to kill that youth? He was just going to get his life on track before the racist killed him. We need to stop these racist store owners from killing young black men needlessly. We need more programs. He could have just shot him on the finger, he didn't have to kill him like that.

>>34586552
pls not this again

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>>34597789
the cliffnotes version of things:

>all expanding rounds can fail, some do only very rarely while others do frequently(20%+ range isn't unheard of)

>when bullets don't expand .45 has performance that is considerably less variable than 9mm. It's less likely to deflect significantly off bone and tends to retain more energy after hitting it.

>relevant source: http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20Ballistics%20as%20viewed%20in%20a%20morgue.htm

>keep in mind this is from a little ways back and due to victim preferences his data is likely skewed in favor of 40/45

>.45 caliber rounds tend to produce moderately to significantly more voluminous wounds. Keep in mind that IRL bullets tend to look more like the rounds from 4LD tests than bare gel tests, presumably because cracking through ribs/sternum before getting to the gooey bits kinda cramps their style.

>pic is related, IIRC the 45 produces >30% more wound volume than the 9mm.

>bigger wound means more bleeding if an artery isnt hit and probably more bleeding if an artery is hit. The question for the latter is whether the flow rate of the artery or the size of the wound is the limiting factor.

>The case against radial and remote wounding effects being caused by bullets, even handgun bullets, isn't as ironclad as people like to think. Energy may very well play some minor role in a shootees proclivity for going down and staying down.

>The vast, vast, vast majority of DGUs involve significantly fewer rounds being fired by the defender than common .45s hold. Whether you carry a 5 shot single stack or a 15 shot double stack running out of ammo is unlikely.

>On the other hand people shooting back is extremely common. When your opponent could kill you at any moment through sheer luck or happenstance you want every small advantage for shortening a fight that you can get. You certainly DONT want a round that's more likely to fail to do even an acceptable job.

>>34598023
That all being said I recently sold off my only .45 and carry 9mm.

Frankly i feel that the lower recoil and cheaper cost of practice ammo(poorfag) currently outweighs the benefits of .45 for me. Shot placement and speed trump everything else in a gun fight. There aren't many people running around crying about 9mm being inadequate these days for a reason, if you do your part it'll usually do its.

Besides, if im going to be ok with carrying 7+1 of .45 because im willing to give up a little on my split times, reloading is almost never a thing, and I've got enough money/skill that cost of ammo isn't a major concern then why not simply go with a 7 shot or maybe 8 shot 4" revolver in .357?

Now those have a rep for putting butts in seats better than the .45 and i even find them quicker to draw and easier to conceal than autoloaders.

>>34598090
Are you a 55kg woman by any chance?

>>34598185
not >>34598090 but I would unironically carry 22 if i wasnt worried about duds and feeding

>>34598185
>kg
No, im a 190lbs 6'3" male. You wouldn't happen to be a 70kg europoor would you?

>>34598233
>70kg europoor
delete this

>>34587280
Summer is treating him well.

>>34598090
So is 45 hardball recommended or .45 JHP?

>>34598843
JHP. Hardballs never a best choice for AP uses, at least with the off the shelf stuff. AP ammo is a whole other topic though. Flat nose does everything FMJ does but better. JHP makes more damage along it's tract but doesn't penetrate as much.

My specific recommendation would be ranger talons or federal HST 230gr rounds. Impressive expansion, penetrate adequately, tend to behave reliably.

>>34591791

I have seen some of these face tattoo retards reach old age. They are all dirt poor and have literally no friends since gangs are a young retards thing and old people are not allowed.

The stupid idiots are somehow surprised that joining a gang when they where kids did not provide them with wealth, housing etc.

And yet, they still brag about being in a gang when they were young like it is supposed to impress the working class adults around them. Stupid idiots.

>>34587670
muy cholo and shit,but there was no need to prove anything.

>>34586552
Awesome. Dropping a dude with a Hi Power is gangster af

>>34598960
Is 8+1 a bad idea?
It's dependable, with a track record, and from your data it pushes through bone rather than deflecting.

What was that about the two researchers?

>>34600649
Just get a Glock in .45

>>34600657
The 1911 is much thinner than a glock 30, but that's what I'm deciding between
A 1911
Or a glock 30 with an x300u

>>34587107
ur getting baited by some noguns faggot so fucking hard right now, u really are a fucking retard lmfao

>>34591956
I fucking love thai food.

>>34594971
>polite yuros
Have you ever been on FB?

>>34598197
.25 exists for those two reasons.

>>34587670
>extendo mag
>still can't hit anything with it
>looking like a raging faggot

>>34597131
Would bedside carry. Looks sick as fuck

>>34586552
I guess I chose my preferred caliber right about the time that I was shooting some of my regular "non-standard" targets and realized that one will consistently penetrate an average frying pan or washing machine and the other won't.

Then a friend and I shot a bunch of random targets, and the take away message was that one is like shooting an actual gun and the other is like throwing an accurate hammer.

I wouldn't want to get hit by either, and either will be good for defense. But if you're seriously looking at terminal ballistics and defeating a threat that may be behind a bit of cover, decide whether you want to eliminate that threat with penetration or just put a huge dent in the sheet metal appliance the threat just stepped behind.

I have both calibers and like them for what they are. If a bad guy walks in my door and presents an ideal target, .45 would be nicer by a bit. If there are any of the real life barriers or variables involved where the bad guy is trying to actually avoid getting shot, 9mm is my choice by far. Because I don't know which I'll encounter, I'm comfortable with my decision to opt on the side of versatility.

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>>34587312
Posterier pulverized?
Orfice obliterated?

Glock 19 9mm
>needing anything else ever

>>34587670
What a fagget

>>34586715
some of the best side-by-side comparisons in 9 and .45 HPs only have a tenth of an inch difference in diameter after expansion, shot placement is king, after that it's what level of energy dump you can get at roughly 8 inches of depth, that's where all the killing happens, just past the sternum in the aortic cavity

I prefer 9 over .45 simply because I don't have the time and money to drill constantly for optimum reliable three-shot placements, my training consists of dumping a whole mag onto the target and getting as few misses as possible in as short a time span as feasible with little to no thought given to aiming past getting sights over paper and letting it rip and returning sights back to target asap. With 9mil I'm getting 17 chances at a CNS hit within the nine ring, with a .45 I'd get 7 or 10, maybe 11, that extra tenth of an inch expansion doesn't make up for the extra six or more bullets going into the assailant

Stopping power is a meme. Shot placement is king, duke and archbishop. There is literally no reason to carry anything more powerful than .25ACP because stopping power is a meme.

>>34591572
No shit, snapfart.

>>34597850

They are correct, especially for the two options anon gave. It's not like 45 won't win a gun fight, just that you'd be better off with 9, it comes down to shot placement and how many you get on target.

They all fall to hardball. 45 in a 1911 has been a proven man stopper with a crisp trigger. The trigger will get your shots on target in a high stress situation

>>34600670
Bump

>>34603520
There needs to be doublestack .25
Beretta needs to get on this.

>>34604063
This whole post is a meme.

>>34591572
Are you the same guy who didn't get the P90/FiveSeven mag joke?

>>34601001
>no full-sized .25 pistols
unless im retarded and missed them

>>34603520
Stopping power is a meme insofar as you're carrying a pistol and there's not going to be a huge shutdown effect of whatever you can fire. For rifles, shotguns and rcls, stopping power is not a meme

>>34603373
COLORECTALLY COLLATERALIZED

SHPINCTERALLY SPHUNKED

>>34598233
>6'3
>190 lb

Lanklet detected

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>>34591791
Not in a gang pussy boi

>>34597174
> lives in a gated community suburbs and waves to police like a faggot.

>>34597297
Who? I been here since 09 but I don't tripfag

>>34599885
Shh no need for dem to know I'm bored and trolling

>>34600682

> pussy new fag boi who doesn't understand trollin.

>>34601095

Jesus Christ dat projection


>>34603406
Samfag projecting hard
How is this no guns newfag thread still alive Jesus Christ trolling no guns fags are easier then knife fags

45 is proven.

>>34586552
Who gives a fuck, turns out you could CC a god damn 22 if you can place your shot right under pressure. Honestly if you're gonna be a ''Muh stoppin power" all about caliber faggot, just CC a fucking 357 or 44 mag and fire wildly at your target. Also, learning some self defense or learning how to handle a weapon in a stressful scenario and be accurate is gonna be waaaaayyy more important than what weapon you're carrying, or what it fires.

>>34606492
I know this is the internet, but fuck, could you sound halfway educated, or like your IQ is above 70?
>>inb4 butthurt and trolled. I just hate you.

>>34600649
8+1 isnt really a bad idea. A whole lot of people CC single stack 9mms everyday due to their size and weight without feeling particularly under gunned. If you ask me id much rather have a good 1911 in a real SD situation than one of those. Much better functional accuracy. That being said the 1911 design tends to be more finicky than most modern handguns and the G30 does offer ~25% more ammo while weighing less. If this is your first time carrying or you have little firearms experience then those would be pretty good reasons to go with the glock.

Personally Id go with the 1911 as i prefer firearms with a safety(for training purposes mostly) and tend to shoot them better than glocks. With good mags and a properly adjusted extractor I've found my 1911s reliability to be acceptable to me.

If i were you id just try both and get the one that i shoot better. If they're about equal and the glock doesn't seem like something you'll eventually come to hate for its boringness then id go with it.

>>34587199
>>34587225
>>34587280
>>34587312
>>34587315
>>34587423
>>34587471
>>34587619
ITT: retards who don't know what shitposting is, and are confirmed nogunz

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>>34607091


> I just hate you

Successful troll is successful

You know what I'm nice enough to explain this I normally write ghetto af but sometimes when I wanna sound proper and want replies I write proper af on /k/ since u more likely to reply to the educated guy instead of the ghetto one.

You probably replied to me in the ar thread and didn't even know.

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>>34586552
>trusting life to anything smaller than.50 BMG

>>34608092


>just retarded enough to think hes able to sound educated


>callow enough to >lmao i trolled you and this is how


sad! many such cases

>>34586552
wow, I see why indoor ranges have so much ventilation stuff, its down right smokey after like 3 shots.

>>34587513
How do you like the 30s?

>>34609232
> pathetic projecting beta no guns white boi who got punked in school by jocks n nerds
People hear me talk bout guns dey think I'm a criminal dey hear ur white ass talk bout guns dey think ur bout to shoot up da school.

Lol

>>34587702
tell me that's photoshopped

>>34609528
It was alright a lil bit more recoil because slide is lighter but other then that never once a jam or fte.

Would recommend if .45 wasn't a terrible outdated round.

Even when dual wielding the nigger had no dps.

>>34608128
>obrez m107
why do I want this?

10mm

>>34605711
Literally a perfect ass.

Holy shit I wanna eat it

>>34609558
I asked because I just bought a used one as my first gun. It has a decent amount of kick but I almost enjoy firing it one handed over two.

>>34587312
Huh, didn't know Cr1TiKaL was a /k/ommando

>>34608092
The newports is a nice touch

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>>34597602
>$2800
Goddammit

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>>34586552
>HFW right after the shooting he picks up the robber's two guns and places them in the "used" gun shelf as sells them for a reduced rate

>>34587670
hahahahahahaha

>>34609531
>p-p-projecting
literal kikeology, niggerfaggot. when people hear you spewing ebonics about heaters they have no idea what ur niggerbabble means

>>34587513
People who paint their guns are retards.

>>34609789

> butthurt no guns being a newfag

>>34609797
People who are no guns posting on /k/ are the bigger retards. Go paint your BB gun lol

>>34609802
>muh non seqiutur ad homo because im a literal faggot that has no argument but im also an impulsive nigger that cant leave an insult unanswered
10/10

>>34609833
> muh projection I can't stand I try so hard to sound intellectual but come off as a cum guzzling no guns new fag


Wew fag

>>34609912
>let me just say projection again because im a dumb nigger and my only pseudointellectual argument is kike dsm memes
>also i sucked 6000000 cocks to buy muh hipoint 9mm so noguns btfo
>but let me also call anon a fag because as a stupid nigger i actually am projecting because i was memed into being retarded by propaganda

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i'm pretty you two want to fug

>>34609999
b-but kek hates fags ;-;

>>34609946
> look at me I'm white and I have privilege but don't let that anon know. Maybe if I counter his projection it won't be true.

> boy do I love being white and nerdy.

>>34609999
Only if the balls don't touch.

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quads confirm

>>34610023
>lmao i love being a non-priveleged nigger living in the greatest civilization ever, which was coincedentally built by whites
>lmao those white progeny are priveleged for living in their birthright
>bix nood muhfuggah da wite wimmen love muh (small) bbc mup de doo
>still a virgin tho lmao whyyyy

>>34609999
>day 69, they don't suspect a thing

>>34610138
>w-well i bet your dick is big
what did he mean by this?

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>>34610176

Still trying to work > since I hate change.

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>>34610138
/k/ is a blue board, ma'am.

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>>34610220
I just want this cancerous thread to die already bruh.


Nice watch btw just ordered an invicta 13872

>>34610220
>he has no knucles

>>34587416
>2x13=36
Guy...