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He's just trolling right? Nobody is this much of a

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He's just trolling right? Nobody is this much of a sellout......right?
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>>34569465

why does it matter? If you stop watching his streams, he goes away. See how that works? You watching it then bitching give him everything he wants. You are a sucker.
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>>34569465
You're just realizing he's a shill?
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>>34569465
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>>34569465
>Can't even set down a drink with the logo facing the camera while doing your video about Israeli brand Israeli guns without autists on the internet calling you a shill

Seriously though it's his channel and he provides good content, if he needs to advertise to fund the videos we enjoy then whatever. Don't watch them if a fucking pink can offends you.
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>>34569465
monster is fucking pleb tier.
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>>34569480
>Be enjoying video
>Wait a second...
>*gets face 5 inches from the screen*
>OMG, LOOK AT THIS OBVIOUS THING I BET NO ONE ELSE NOTICED
>IM GONNA MAKE A POST ABOUT IT PRETENDING TO BE OUTRAGED
>MAYBE IT WILL HELP ME MAKE FRIENDS ON THE INTERNET
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This isn't news.
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>>34569465
What a massive fagot he is.

>Monster
>IWI

What next? satanic pedophile cults and child sacrifice?
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Reposting what I said in the other thread...

Tim is a known shill and anything positive or negative that he says is suspect. Even the times he shows a gun "malfunctioning" on camera should be considered suspect. There are certain tricks and sleight of hand that you can do to make a gun malfunction when you want it to, for example holding your thumb firmly against the slide while firing.

I firmly believe that the FTC should bring a lawsuit against him for violating Truth-In-Advertising regulations, if only just to find out how much he is getting paid by IWI, Canik, Beretta, CZ, Arex and some of these other companies that he has never said a negative thing about. I want to know how much (or how little) he can be bought for.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/ftcs-endorsement-guides-what-people-are-asking
If you write a review about a product whose company has given you material or immaterial benefits at any time in the past, you need to disclose that or else it's considered deceptive advertising. It doesn't matter if no dollars are exchanged, Tim NEVER discloses anything he has received from the companies in the review videos, even though he has posted other videos (often long AFTER the review video went up) about getting flown overseas to tour these companies' factories, receiving special access to new products before release date, and getting other free goodies/privileges.

Anyone who takes what he says at face value is a retard and doesn't deserve to own nice things. And people like >>34569658 who apologize for his illegal behavior should be gassed on the spot.
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>>34569465
>Head starts spinning
>Vomits fizzy green liquid
>Nose grows a bump
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>>34569465
>Sheckles rapidly depreciating
>Calls out for God but god wasn't there
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>>34569758
Cum again?
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>>34569731
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>>34569654
I think it tastes good. What would you recommend I drink instead?
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>Not enjoying red sips now and then

lmaoing at your life OP.
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>>34569838
Rip-It
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>>34569731
>Tim NEVER discloses anything he has received from the companies in the review videos
Plenty of Youtubers get access to behind the scenes shit or swag. They don't continually bring that stuff up anytime anything remotely associated comes up, and if they did I'd find it pretty annoying. Confirmation bias on your part in any case.
>you need to disclose that or else it's considered deceptive advertising.
Nope. It may be better practice of course, depending on context.

Nice copypasta though.
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His shop is like 30 min from my house I've talked to him a few times he's actually a pretty cool dude
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>>34569838
of course it tastes good, it's 90% sugar.
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>>34569838
too old's choice? despair
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>>34569886
>>34569920
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That monster he is drinking actually tastes pretty decent, but yeah if you drink it too often of course it'll be bad for you.
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>>34569465
i didn't even notice it till people pointed it out

why dont you just watch for the video for the p320 instead of being a faggot OP
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>>34569867
>muh cappypasta
There are two threads about the same subject on /k/ right now. I'm not going to type out an entirely new reply just because someone made an identical thread to one we already have.

>other people do it too so that makes it ok
It doesn't make it not illegal. The FTC defines deceptive advertising as any sort of product review or promotion that fails to disclose all material or immaterial contributions you have received from the company who makes the product. I don't know what the fuck you're on about "confirmation bias," but I can only assume that you read that term somewhere and don't actually know what it means, so you're trowing it out there hoping that it will "stick" and make me go away.

Fuck off, dick-rider.
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>>34569855
The dollar store energy drink? That sounds even sketchier than Monster.
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>>34569716
Ayy, didn't know they let people like you use computers in prison.
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>>34569465
MAC is burt i fucking knew it
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>>34569465
I don't really care for his videos, but all this shill complaining is retarded. If shitty monster energy drink was going to pay me to make videos of me shooting shit I would do it in a fucking heartbeat. I don't even care if it tastes like shit and is consumed exclusively by shitfuck retards who jerk off to motocross videos.

Also I want to thank my good friends at buds gunshop
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>>34570041
It was the official energy drink of Iraq 2 electric boogaloo.
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>>34569731
Pretty interesting read. I checked out the FTC endorsement guideline. I never knew they cared about this stuff. It honestly seems like a ton of youtubers violate this all the time. What exactly would the punishment be if any? How is it even enforced?

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/plain-language/pdf-0205-endorsement-guides-faqs_0.pdf
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>>34570034
>The FTC defines deceptive advertising as any sort of product review or promotion that fails to disclose all material or immaterial contributions you have received from the company who makes the product.
Source on that.
>I don't know what the fuck you're on about "confirmation bias"
By the standard you are holding Tim to, every single reviewer who has had any access or gift of any nature would fail. This behavior is found across all gun reviewers on Youtube. Yet you ignore that in favor of treating Tim as an exception, rather than the rule.
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>>34569731
>>34570034
Different anon here. When I see people like you I know immediately that people like MAC are alright.
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>>34569465
I thought it was kind of funny desu senpai
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>>34569465
He gets paid by the juice.
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>>34569731
Do you honestly think the FTC gives two fucks about what some guy says on YouTube? Tim isn't selling anything, he's not trading anything and giving someone some free shit to say nice things about a company has been a marketing ploy forever.

What, you're gonna run off to the FTC cause I got a free coffee at Wawa and then told someone to go have some of their coffee? Calm down anon.
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>>34570161
>Source on that.
Can you fucking read? I posted that earlier in the thread.

>By the standard you are holding Tim to, every single reviewer who has had any access or gift of any nature would fail. This behavior is found across all gun reviewers on Youtube. Yet you ignore that in favor of treating Tim as an exception, rather than the rule.
There is no confirmation bias on my part. There is, however, a bandwagon fallacy on your part.

>>34570179
Not an argument.

>>34570160
Typical punishment would be fines.
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>>34569920
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>>34570128
Exactly, you see what it did to a whole generation
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>>34570232
Considering that they published the website that I linked to and it specifically mentions youtube, yes, I think it's fair to say that they do care.

> Tim isn't selling anything
He actually is (he owns a gun shop), but that isn't required in order to create deceptive advertising.

>and giving someone some free shit to say nice things about a company has been a marketing ploy forever.
How do you know that? Because the reviewers ALWAYS disclose where they got the gun from. Hickok45 is always repeating, in every single video, that he receives support from Buds Gun Shop, Federal ammo and some other sponsors when relevant. Buds doesn't give him guns or money, they only lend him guns for a short period of time, but he still has to disclose them as a sponsor due to FTC regulations because lending guns counts as support.

Tim, on the other hand, doesn't disclose where he gets his guns or what he's getting from the gun manufacturers under the table. If he is receiving anything at all, and I think it's pretty clear that he is, given all the factory tour videos he has posted separately, then he needs to disclose the relationship or be in violation of the Truth-In-Advertising regulations.
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>>34570249
I wasn't arguing?
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>>34570312
I presented an argument - a legal argument. You posted a reply as if to refute this argument by the nature some unspecified aspect of my posts, which I assume is probably my tone. It may have been with fallacious reasoning, but you were arguing.
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>>34569838
Water, dumbass.
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>>34569658
>only a few items on the table
>MAC is in complete control of what's on the table, since people will be watching this video for years to come and he wants to only put relevant items there
>one of the items just HAPPENS to be a branded sports drink known for making marketing deals with lots of people, for example motorcycle gear manufacturers
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>>34570304
I gotta say, I just gained some respect for Hickok. Despite all the memes, you got to give him credit for doing things ethically. Still, the thought of the FTC cracking down on some random youtuber and fining him $40 because he didn't thank IWI in his video for supplying whatever is kind of hilarious to me. I just can't picture it.
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>>34570338
Jesus Christ anon, just go hate wank at MAC and stop shitting up the catalogue with this awful thread.
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>>34570050
Prison for being awake and speaking the truth... Hmmm... You sound awfully retarded there mister thinkpolice
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>>34570388
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>>34569465

>"People trying to make money on YouTube?"
>"WHERE'S MY FAINTING COUCH?!?!"

How do you think he can afford to shoot all those lovely guns?

Get your ass out of your head.
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>>34570249
>Can you fucking read? I posted that earlier in the thread.
I guess I'm illiterate. I've been going through the document, and can't find support for your claim that not disclosing getting a shirt from a gun company a year ago in a review of their gun today constitutes false advertising.
>There is, however, a bandwagon fallacy on your part.
Good. So we've established that this amounts to an anal-retentive vendetta on MAC as opposed to 99% of all gun reviewers, who get all sorts of privileges and gifts from gun companies and barely disclose 1/10 of it. Your selective moral indignation therefore holds no weight. It's just a question if you have a legal foot to stand on at all.
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>>34570338
No, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works. I'm saying that your overzealous attitude and frothing at the mouth show how unreasonable and unstable you are, and MAC is just a bystander. I'm not part of any argument you're looking for; I got a giggle out of the little pink can but otherwise I couldn't care less.
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>>34570482
>>34570399
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>>34569465
BOTTOMS UP, THE DEVIL LAUGHS
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>>34570493
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>>34570519
Next time, be less of an asshole.
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>>34569838
Water you fucking fat diabetic.
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>>34570519
What's that, sign language for "I'm a faggot"?
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>>34570396
Stay woke bro.
We are Legion, and the time of the normies is ending.
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>>34570545
Wait, I'm the asshole? Shit I didn't realize you're this far gone.

>>34570563
Stop samefagging
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>>34569838
Bleach.
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>>34570613
Swing and a miss. Sorry faggot.
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>>34569920
Rekt.
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>>34570613
>Wait, I'm the asshole?
Very much so. I can't even figure out what you're trying to prove by acting so badly, but if an intelligent conversation was what you were after, you went about it wrong. If you had a tripcode, you'd be filtered.
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>>34569465
>Pink Monster
Nigga, what the FUCK is juice?!
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>>34570627
>Year of our Lord Keanu + 53
>thinking people don't know how to shop
>lel

>>34570677
Hold on a sec, you're >>34569731 this guy right?

'cause I'm this guy
>>34570179
>>34570312
>>34570482
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>>34569855
>>34570041
If you havent ventured outside of stinger, power, and citrus then you cant speak on rip it. Lemoan-r, atomic pom, lime mandarin tribute, and cherry lime are all great
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>>34570364
>Drink is turned with the can opening on the opposite side if he picked it up from where he's sitting
Wew
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>>34570733
>>>34570677(You)
>Hold on a sec, you're >>34569731(You) this guy right?
>
>'cause I'm this guy
>>>34570179
>>>34570312
>>>34570482

I'm aware. My confusion lies in why you chose to continue the conversation after realizing that >>34570179 was not an argument, as if there was any other valid reply than to present an argument of your own.
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>>34570767
I'm saying this is an intervention anon, you need mental help.
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>>34570802
Stop projecting.
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>>34569465
>drinking mountain dew
>notice logo is facing me and the opposite side of the can
wtf im shilling for mountain dew now
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>>34570833
>making videos for your youtube channel and posting them almost every day for years
>not noticing minor things in the production of the video, like directions of labels
>claiming ignorance to the concept of product placement
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>>34570179
this
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>>34569465
All gun channels need to be shutdown.
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>>34569465
Report him to the FCC for failing to disclose sponsored content.
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>>34570859
i obviously don't like military arms channel because of how much of a shill he is but the can thing is a good reach considering you can see the opening of the can is facing away from the camera
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>>34571121
You know that when you buy a can of soda at the store, the tops are installed on them at random orientation, right? You can choose whichever can you want to use in a video that you would be able to drink from and shill with simultaneously. Let me ask you this.. Does he ever take a sip from it during the video? Does it sound like his voice is going dry or he's getting sleepy and he just NEEDS a little bit of Monster energy drink to make it through narrating the video?
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>>34571098
RUDE
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>>34571204
Shilling is rude.
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>>34570364
>somehow label is perfectly oriented towards the camera
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>>34571149
>>34571149
>You know that when you buy a can of soda at the store, the tops are installed on them at random orientation, right?
Yes, I know this because I down a fucking 12 pack of mountain dew practically every day
>Let me ask you this.. Does he ever take a sip from it during the video? Does it sound like his voice is going dry or he's getting sleepy and he just NEEDS a little bit of Monster energy drink to make it through narrating the video?
I don't know you faggot, I don't watch his videos
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It's going to be really interesting to see the rates of pancreatic cancer in the Energy Drink generation.
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>>34570582
Which one are you in the photo?
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>>34569654
Sugary drinks in general are pleb tier. Water or black coffee. One soda a day raises your chance of diabetes by 23%.
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>>34570399
Fuck off with your 'fallacy' bullshit that retards like you are spreading around the internet like a cancer you mongoloid nigger kike. I'm not gonna try and refute any of the shit you say, because the bile that spews from your mouth is so fucking idiotic that anyone with an IQ above 50 could smell the rancid stink fumes wafting from their monitor.

Fuck your fallacy shit. I'll call you any goddamn name I want, bitch. Refute the 1st Amendment and see how you like that, faggot.
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>>34571825
Not an argument.
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>>34569632

he should have used an ashtray instead
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>>34569838
I like AMP better but moster is ok
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>>34569465
How is he selling out? Was he actively promoting the drink? Or did he just have it there because he was thirsty?
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>>34570556

Fucking lost it. Thanks anon.
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>>34569632
>jew gun
>monster logo is 666 in hebrew
Hmmmm.
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Is this seriously that big of a deal? You guys won't bat an eye at Hickok or hell, any other type of channel being shilled. Yet it's always a problem with MAC? I've never understood this.

Inb4 go to bed tim
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>>34572414
This exactly. He is likely in with the Zionists.
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>>34569465
Tim is a total shill, but I also can't keep myself from still liking him, he seems like a nice guy and has a good presentation style. I take whatever he says with a shaker full of salt, but occasionally watch a video of his if he got exclusive access to a new gun or piece of gear just to see it early.
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>>34570179
Whatever you say, IWI.
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>>34571825
Now you're at the bottom of the pyramid lmao.
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>>34569838
A powerful but tasty energy drink consisting of NH3 + NaClO with some sugar and grape juice.
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>>34570407
I want to kill myself for understanding that reference
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>>34569465
No, he is a sellout because he was complaining before about youtube cutting ad money to gun channels too when they were cracking down on wrong-think
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>>34571015
No one wants to pay me for my unbiased opinionâ„¢ yet, can I stay?
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Fuck MAC.

I remember when I subbed to him some years ago during the YouTube golden age for gun channels and he was one of my favorites. Slowly but surely, though, it seemed like half of his videos featured the Tavor. Basically he had to compare every bullpup on the market to his Tavor and these videos always concluded with "X is a nice bullpup, but at the end of the day I prefer my Tavor." His incessant shilling for IWI is insufferable at this point. People finally woke up during his little series featuring the Galil. People were calling out his Jew tactics in the comments and he went into complete damage control trying to explain how he wasn't being paid off by the kikes at IWI. I unsubbed after that chapter. In fact I unsubbed from most gun channels as most of them have turned into complete garbage.

This is a cringe-worthy picture some anon took of his Jeep at some show where he WORKED at the IWI booth. This kike actually has GLADIUS smeared on his license plate. I just want to fucking kill myself seeing this.
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>>34573065
>I just want to fucking kill myself seeing this.
Do it.
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>>34573087
I just might. I just need to see another act of kikery from him
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>>34569838
the juice monster is fuckin bomb, I wish they sold it without the energy garbage in it
pro answer: water and caffeine pills
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>>34573095
Watch his freedom munitions video.
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>>34569838
emergen-c or however you spell that shit.
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>>34570766
pay no attention to the awkward way I hold this bottle and turn sideways while drinking.
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>>34571825
>Ad hominem fallacy
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>>34569465
MAC is a good goy!
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>>34573123
>Try emergen-c because I thought I was coming down with something
>30 minutes later have a massive nose bleed
>Always been prone to nose bleeds so think nothing of it
>A month or so later, drink another packet of it, have another major nose bleed
>Brush it off as coincidence
>Another time later, take emergen-c again
>Have another massive nose bleed

Apparently, Vitamin C, when taken in large quantities (such as over 1000% you DV) can act as an anti-coagulate. Wish I would have researched that before trying it three fuckin times.
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>>34569838
Coffee, tea, and water
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>>34569838
I have drank red bull for years.

Im not exadurating what im about to tell you.
One time I had to drink a monster instead, and it tasted so fucking bad it literally induced a mini stroke.
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>>34569838
You're fucking stupid. Drink some cum you Monster drinking cunt.
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>>34573201
Is this from a video of him begging for patreon donations? The fucking audacity he has

I know Youtube has ended ad revenue for certain videos that include firearms and hunting, but this guy is a paid shill by IWI, a management partner with Full 30, and is the founder of Copper Custom Armament. I assure you he isn't struggling financially.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnXtY5_djjI

His shilling can not be forgiven. Reminds me of this song.
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>>34573381
>but this guy is a paid shill by IWI
Without a source, you're just talking out of your ass.
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He set the can with the logo facing the camera, then when his throat got dry and he needed a drink, it took him a second to slowly spin it to actually line up to where he could drink it, thus proving that the initial placement wasn't coincidental because it left the can hard to drink from.
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>>34574603
Your post is actual, clinical assburgers.
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>>34569731
>jealous of a guy getting paid to play with funs

Maybe you should start your own channel.
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>>34569465
I really like MAC vids. They're very well produced and I love his approach to suppressor testing.

That said, shilling for energy drinks seems like a new low. I don't really care about him being sponsored by ammo companies but for some reason trying to shill energy drinks feels especially tacky.
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Name youtubers that aren't shills.

I'll start, Clyde n Bundy is a cute.
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>>34574801
>Name youtubers that aren't shills.
>>34572475
>ou guys won't bat an eye at Hickok or hell, any other type of channel being shilled
You don't understand the difference between disclosing your sponsors (which Hickok45 does in every video) and deceptive advertising, which is regulated by the FTC.
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>>34569886
Other drinks with 90% sugar doesn't taste that good.
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>>34574801

TFB TV
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>>34572565
Satanic Jews taking over the gun industry? Really? When can we just go back to hating Hillary?
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Thought it was a Fleshlight until I expanded the pic.
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>>34576407
That's an understandable assumption.
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>>34569658
Best post 2k17
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>>34569658
bro you're the maddest one here
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>>34569465
>tfw Mac S I P S
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>>34569658
also why are you pretending it's hard to see? it's larger than the guns he's talking about and it's literally the only other thing in frame.
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>>34570407
advertising is fine
sponsorship is fine

what's not fine is pretending to be unbiased afterwords
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>>34576407
yeah I opened the thread thinking "dildo"
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>>34577163
this, this is the entire issue.
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