>tfw you will never fix bayonets as a soldier of the 20th

You sound like a loser. There are plenty of wars available yet you refuse to attend one. That confirms you as a cuck deluxe, a megagiggabeta cuck, a singularity of cuckoldness into which even large adjacent cucks are sucked and consumed by your faggotry.

Why live? Stop living. You suck. Go die.

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>>34541642
What the hell is with this guy?

>>34539686
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClIpGnV7c0

>>34542383
Autism, clearly.

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>>34539686
>Wanting to empower the Federal Government, violate the Constitution and throw your life away for a literal tyrant
Fucking Statists get off my board

>>34539686
I am Kilrain of the 20th Maine
And we fight for Chamberlain
'Cause he stood right with us
When the johnnies came like a banshee on the wind
When the smoke cleared out of Gettysburg many a mother wept
For many a good boy died there, sure
And the air smelted just like death...

https://youtu.be/cNXAelJEwRA

>>34546135
This.

>>34546135
>>34546220
cucks

>>34539686
Considering they had suffered 60% casualties in the battle and 90% since mustering you were more than likely bleeding out against a tree at that point.

>>34546135
>Seceding on the political level just cause someone told you would wouldn't be able to grossly violate the rights of others

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I've been there, is a pretty shitty position DESU.

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>>34546135
The only thing worse than a traitor is one who lost.

>>34546135
>leeaboos get out REEEE

>>34546458
It's not treason. The South was a foreign country.

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>>34546458
This country's foundings were on rebellion and "betrayal", your complaints of rebellion prove that the Union truly lost what it was that made them American.

Also I'm a "Yankee", but living and seeing what has become of the Cradle of Liberty due to the expansion of the Federal Government and the violation of the Constitution by the tyrant Abraham Lincoln has enlightened me on the plight of the Southern peoples. Just as the North and South Koreas now show whose fight was just and whose unjust, the situation in my State caused by the cowardly Lincolnites shows firm that the Southern cause was just and for the betterment of America. If the South should so ever rise again I would gladly lend aid to the defenders of American values and liberty.

Freedom is not a football match, Lincolnite, you do not cheer for the fighting side that grew up in your home State. You cheer for the side fighting for freedom and against tyranny and oppression.

>>34546512
nope.

>>34546512
It's literal treason. Disloyalty to the state, it's like, the textbook definition.

And the South was never a legitimate country, regardless of how much rednecks want it to be. A legitimate nation is defined by how other nations see it, and after getting BTFO at Gettysburg, the CSA lost practically all of its British support, the only real chance at being recognized.

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>>34539686
>not the 1st Minnesota Volunteer Regiment

It's almost like you don't want to be recognized for saving the Union and being one of few units to consistently arrive and depart from the field of battle in good order in multiple major battles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Minnesota_Volunteer_Infantry

>>34546545
Problem is you can't secede everytime you don't get your fucking way. That's not how a republic works. The kicker is that had the south somehow won, it would have balkanized into a free for all of non cooperative states. The south's wartime infrastructure and economy is a testament to that fact.

>>34546364
>implying the civil war was fought over "freeing the slaves"
>implying it wasn't just another economically motivated war

>>34546624
Oh, I know them too. Fuckers never got their share of the fame because none of them lived to tell the tale.

Same thing happened with Patty O'Rourke and the 140th New York, they also died defending Little Round Top.

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>>34546545
>Freedom is not a football match
>football match

>>34546726
In middle school, you realize the war was fought over slaves.

In high school, you realize the war was fought over states' rights.

In adult life, you finally realize that the war was actually fought over slaves. The NC secession document literally starts off with slaves as the first reason they're leaving.

>>34546778
Pretty much.

>The war was actually about state rights
The right to own slaves

>The war was actually about economic reasons!
The economic impact of no longer owning slaves and slave produced goods

>>34546726
The economic motivation was the slave system.

Most of the Southern states almost explicitly called out slavery as a reason in their secession statements.

>>34546706
It should be. That's how the US started, and it's more peaceful than kicking the shit out of anyone who doesn't bow to the mob.

The south's real crime was tainting the concept forever.

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>>34539686
The only Southern flag that ever mattered was the white flag.

>>34546555
Yes, it was.
>>34546561
>A legitimate nation is defined by how other nations see it,
No, de facto control over a defined territory is all that is required to be a state.
>>34546706
>Problem is you can't secede everytime you don't get your fucking way
Of course you can.
>>34546706
>That's not how a republic works
You mean that's not how an empire works.
>>34546778
>>34546804
>>34546809
>muh slavery
Still not a valid reason for the USA to invade the CSA. You didn't invade Brazil over slavery, so why invade us? Mind your own business.

>>34546561
>Disloyalty to the state, it's like, the textbook definition
It wasn't disloyalty. It was enmity. There is a difference.

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>>34546884
The nice thing about slave owners is you can do anything to them without feeling bad.

>>34546545
the side that has people in chains making being sold as a commodity item cannot be the side fighting against tyranny. No side was. Only the communists.

>>34539686
>killing other americans an dying so that blacks can run free and ruin US cities and overcrowd our prisons
why live indeed

>>34546884
Lol they fired on a federal fort and invaded as far north as PA, as well as extensively writing about how they wanted to invade south america after the war

>>34546965
The Union fought to keep ALL men in the chains of the Federal Government.

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>>34546997
The strong conquer and the weak perish.

A slavery supporter should know this.

>>34546997
Slavery is not an indefinable mass of flesh. It is a particular, specific enslaved woman, whose mind is as active as your own, whose range of feeling is as vast as your own; who prefers the way the light falls in one particular spot in the woods, who enjoys fishing where the water eddies in a nearby stream, who loves her mother in her own complicated way, thinks her sister talks too loud, has a favorite cousin, a favorite season, who excels at dressmaking and knows, inside herself, that she is as intelligent and capable as anyone. “Slavery” is this same woman born in a world that loudly proclaims its love of freedom and inscribes this love in its essential texts, a world in which these same professors hold this woman a slave, hold her mother a slave, her father a slave, her daughter a slave, and when this woman peers back into the generations all she sees is the enslaved. She can hope for more. She can imagine some future for her grandchildren. But when she dies, the world—which is really the only world she can ever know—ends. For this woman, enslavement is not a parable. It is damnation. It is the never-ending night. And the length of that night is most of our history. Never forget that we were enslaved in this country longer than we have been free. Never forget that for 250 years black people were born into chains—whole generations followed by more generations who knew nothing but chains.- Ta Nehisi Coates.

Its different anon and you know it.

>>34546993
>invaded as far north as PA,

after the north invaded

>>34547032
pathos, the post

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ITT: Nigger-lovers brainwashed by the Jews defending fascism vs real Americans

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>>34547032
>Ta Nehisi Coates

You had an easy argument and chose to piss it away, anon.

>>34546982
It's almost like outlawing drugs was a bad idea or something

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>>34547099
>implying crushing slavers entails supporting Africans

Find a new strawman. Even Lincoln wasn't into that.

>>34547118
Even if that is a legitimate quote, what have the coons accomplished in the US in 150 years? Vast majority of violent crime and killing each other by 90% ratio? Should have kept them in chains. Lincoln was just as bad as LBJ

>>34546939
But Lee hadn't had slaves for nearly two decades before he joined the war.

>>34547118
>nearly ruin the country in a war for muh based nigger slaves
>give niggers equal rights
>impose military rule over South after the war to ensure they're given equal rights

Yeah, Lincoln wasn't a nigger lover at all.

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>>34547186
A slightly lower IQ is no justification for slavery, anon. Otherwise you and your white trash friends would be in chains.

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>>34547219
Amen

Hitler was our last hope for a Jew free world. Socialism isn't preferable but it's better than the alternative. Mein Fuhrer totally fucked that one up though.

>>34547240
Ad homeniem which isn't even provable. I'm not going to say "oh my IQ is X" because it doesn't really matter. Stay buttmad cuck

>>34547260
>denying Jewish supremacy

How does it feel knowing the average Ashekenazi is two standard deviations smarter than a white?

>>34547277
I don't care. The association with and advocacy for subhumans with a room temp IQ rounds it all out. Still the enemy who ruined America.

>>34547219
And how did that work out for him for the next 100 years?

>>34547260
Socialism works in societies with high social trust. It's worked great in Nordic countries and Switzerland until recently.

>>34547277
A standard deviation is 15 points. Ashkenazi IQ averages 110. It's not all that impressive. If kikes were actually superior, Israel wouldn't be a shit hole. They're leeches who abuse nepotism to further their parasitic nature.

>>34546135
You get the fuck out of my glorious Yankee board, Johnny Reb.

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>>34547277
>>34547260
Forgot a pic. That's inferior white IQ for you.

>>34547240
Africans are beasts of the field. They're better off slaves than free. At least as slaves, they aren't ruining our cities.

>>34547301
>trying to shit on whites while posting in our language, on machines we created, in a civilization we founded

WE

>>34546726
Didn't Grant say to Otto von Bismarck that freeing the slaves absolutely necessary because it was morally reprehensible and that it became more important than the initial goal of preserving the Union.

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>>34547312
I see you've never met upper-class Nigerian immigrants (they're excellent engineers).

Tbf your ilk are rarely 1%, or engineers, because Borderers are the bottom shelf of Caucasians. What's your contribution to society, roofing?

>>34547337
Not this guy but if he was a roofer, so what? Without roofers you wouldn't have a fucking roof. Working class whites keep the world moving. Jew "scientists" who suck public money to find out if rats can get high on weed contribute nothing to a peaceful and secure way of life. Niggers and spics just take muh gubment handout.

>>34547337
>borderers

Is this the new "racist"? Why are you kikes so intend on destabilizing your host? Even ticks know it's not a good idea to kill their host.

>>34547296
True, I didn't deny it can't be good, just it's not preferable to small government.

>>34546884
>You didn't invade Brazil over slavery, so why invade us? Mind your own business.
For one thing, you ARE us. We were taking care of our own business by preserving the union from traitors like you.
And second, why did you start the war by laying seige to Fort Sumter, huh? Why attack us, we weren't doing anything to you at that point, so why didn't you just mind your own business?
Just face the facts that the secession was an autistic chimpout created by paranoid plantation owners who were scared that their backwards economic system, which kept most of their population either in chains or as destitute backwoods farmers, was going to be threatened by a man who vehemently asserted that it was not a campaign goal, and inadvertently caused this system to be taken down because of their own chimping out.

>>34546545
>southern culture was not influenced by other cultures

L M A O

>>34547409
>is "borderers" a jewish codeword

You're living down to the stereotype. You don't even know your own race's history! Read Albion's Seed, it's one of the 4 original white American ethnic/cultural groups. Basically Scots-Irish, who later melded with the Cavaliers to form the South.

This is the problem with most racists: they'd have a point if they weren't too fucking stupid to know their own argument. Instead it's retarded kneejerking all the way down.

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>>34547527
The irony of course is that by the time genetics has advanced sufficiently to prove ethnic disparities beyond a doubt, it will have advanced enough for augmentation to make that irrelevant.

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To be fair, the Confederacy wasn't just fighting over slavery. The north was completely decimating their economy prior to the war. Southerners were paying some of the highest taxes in the United States at that time. I don't agree with slavery, but it's easy to see why the south did what they did.

>>34547527
Cool, thanks for the history lesson, Schlomo.

>>34547553
The ethnic disparities are quite clear, even with the crude science of today. It's just not polite to talk about how retarded you niggers are.

>>34539686
Honestly would never want that.

I've gone through doors (OIF), and that is nerve-racking in itself.

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>>34547494
>destitute backwoods farmers
*Yeoman farmers. The same as any small farmer in the north that was able to make a decent profit from whatever they could grow or raise for market. Were those men and their families destitute?

If your understanding of the antebellum south is that limited I suggest you read a book on how bad factory workers and the Irish were treated in the North. The South had it's problems, but the North wasn't peaches and rainbows. Another critical misunderstanding that many people have, because our public education fucking blows, is that at the time the war started more people identified with their home state. As the writer Shelby Fote put it, "These United States are" vs. The United States is."

The problem is that both sides played the escalation game with the South firing first after the North started amassing what would be the Army of the Potomac. Which by the way Lee was offered the job of leading but declined because he felt as though he would be betraying his state. What we ended up with is a divide that is clearly still there, almost 200 years after the bloodbath ended.

Pic related, and Yankee and Johnny Reb talking at Gettysburg.

>>34546939
Most of the notable Southern Generals were pretty alright, if not honorable people. Ever read correspondence from Northern and Southern Generals or lieutenants? Ever read about Grant and Lee at Appomattox? The guy who was Grant's best man at his wedding greeted him for the Confederacy. Jefferson Davis is the man to laugh at, anon.

>>34546726
>CSA supporters always try to deflect and say that it's about "economics" and refuse to explain what those economics are
The best part is that they're not even technically wrong, just ignoring the fact that the economics in question was whether keeping human beings as slave laborers was a legitimate economic system.

>>34547647
Tom Yank is the term of the period, for future reference and to be a prick

>>34547715
Huh, you learn something new every day.

>>34539686
>you will never take a minie ball to the gut so that in 150 years the world will be safe for your great-great-great-great granddaughter to get double-penned on blacked.com

ftfy

>>34547647
>Yeoman farmers. The same as any small farmer in the north that was able to make a decent profit from whatever they could grow or raise for market. Were those men and their families destitute?
There's a reason why the "poor whites" were classified as their own social cast in the south at the time. They weren't always in the most dire straights, but the fact was that the usage of slaves for labor made it far more difficult for free laborers to find work and move up economically. Plantation owners looked down upon them, and often favorably compared their slaves to them. Being a yeoman farmer in the south did not make for a good life when you have hardly any land to make a living off of due to all the rest being used for cash crops.
>I suggest you read a book on how bad factory workers and the Irish were treated in the North. The South had it's problems, but the North wasn't peaches and rainbows.
Of course I know about the treatment of the Irish here in the mid-19th century, even our high schools cover that extensively. They were treated like shit by what factory owners would even admit them, and used like expendable cogs in construction projects like the transcontinental railroad ("An Irishman under every tie" etc.)
Both sides of the country had major problems that anyone could make a moral argument against. The difference is that the north was developing into a manufacturing-based core economy that could stand on its own, while the south was remaining a peripheral region optimized for resource extraction, like the various colonies of contemporary European empires.

>>34546939
So you would have been OK with the US invading Brazil?
>>34546993
>they fired on a federal fort
After being provoked to do so.
>>34546993
>and invaded as far north as PA,
After the war had begun.
>>34546993
>as well as extensively writing about how they wanted to invade south america after the war
Still none of your business.
>>34547017
If you're going to make the "might makes right" argument, then why even bother trying to justify the war?
>>34547240
>slightly lower IQ is no justification for slavery
Slavery is no justification for invasion.
>>34547494
>For one thing, you ARE us
Not as of 1860.
>>34547494
>We were taking care of our own business by preserving the union from traitors like you
The union of the founding fathers was voluntary. You destroyed the union.

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>>34547884
>There's a reason why the "poor whites" were classified as their own social cast in the south at the time.
But was that class the same as the Yeoman farmer? No, they were not. "Poor whites" were in a class of their own and did have chances, albeit much more difficult chances, to move up in the world. To say that it was either plantation owner, or destitute black/white folk is ridiculous. The south at the time of war was a very politically divided climate. Votes were even held on whether or not a state should succeed. Votes casted by Yeoman farmers and plantation owners.

>Being a yeoman farmer in the south did not make for a good life when you have hardly any land to make a living off of due to all the rest being used for cash crops.
A majority of the population in the south were Yeoman farmers and they had much more pull than what most people think. Agricultural practices today are far different from what they were then. There is a reason the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia was called the "Breadbasket of the South." In fact, a majority of the enlistments in the Southern Armies were from the Yeoman class, and as they justified it in defense of their homes and lifestyle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenandoah_Valley#19th_century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_Folk_of_the_Old_South

>Both sides of the country had major problems that anyone could make a moral argument against.
We can agree on that. But the problem is that many Yankees point "moral problem" at the south yet don't understand their own problems of the time.

>The difference is that the north was developing into a manufacturing-based core economy that could stand on its own
There was a limited manufacturing base being built out of necessity, but nothing on the scale of the North.

>the south was remaining a peripheral region optimized for resource extraction
Like industry doesn't rely on resource extraction, right?

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>>34547808
This is your brain on inbreeding and moonshine

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>>34548210
>t. negro

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>>34546545

This.

Canadian here.

Why are Southern leaders, their folklore, their deep history etc. so much more appealing than imported Irish-Nigger slaves fighting for a meal ticket?

>>34546545
>Football match

>>34547032
>...whose mind is as active as your own, whose range of feeling is as vast as your own...she is as intelligent and capable as anyone.

Have you met a single black in your life? I mean sure, an absolute minority (the most mixed ones) approach the dimmest, crudest whites, but to call them human in the same way we are would be a mistake.

>>34547032
>whose mind is as active as your own
demonstrably false.
What is the average IQ in africa again, like 67-72?

>>34548399
I'm whiter than you m8. You can tell because I'm not deluded enough to think that slavery in America could have continued into this day and age.
If you wanted the darkies out, maybe your idiot forebears shouldn't have shot the guy who was trying to ship them back to Africa.

>>34548962
>>34549060
>I unironically believe /pol/ memes
Can the mods delete this thread yet?

>>34549117
Slavery was an inefficient business model. The cotton gin would have killed slavery altogether anyway.

Lincoln didn't want to send them back, or he would have actually done it instead of putting the South under martial law and pushing for constitutional amendments to give them rights.

>>34539686

I'd rather gauge my eyes out than fight for the union

>>34549129
It's not a meme. There's a reason Africa has never produced a viable civilization.

>>34549117
Abe Lincoln had given up the colonization idea by the end of the war, and probably even by the beginning of the war. Lincoln was, above all, a political opportunist, not an ideologue. He supported whatever ideas were convenient to him at the time. When it was convenient to support slavery, he supported it. When it was convenient to oppose it, he opposed it.

>>34548210
>not an argument

>>34549129
comes from /pol/ i guess that it isn't true although its been validated by many studies

>>34546778

You're talking about this as if "slaves" were considered people, but they were tangible property no different than guns or gold.

If the State tells you that they're going to take your guns for no reason other than "we don't like that", you might be pissed off.

And nobody voted for that cocksucker Lincoln anyway. Read about the backroom dealings that got him the nomination then look at the election results that year. Lincoln literally lucked his way into office and then he wanted to tell everyone how things were going to be done. No, fuck that, sic semper tyrannis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1860

>>34546939

Talk about an aristocratic traitor. Nathan Bedford Forrest should have been in charge of the CSA military after Gettysburg debacle. He actually understood how to get shit done. Lee was a relic of the past.

>>34549129
>Africa's IQ is a /pol/ meme
wow, didn't know we had so much sway over wikipedia and the global scientific community

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZsfUTGlyc8

Lincoln authorized the use of extermination camps during the war to encourage race mixing and to kill full-blooded white Americans, and then they covered it up by only focusing on one prison camp in the South where Union soldiers were intentionally left to rot because the Union did not want to save them.

>>34549301
ACT/LSAT scores too

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>>34549295
>Nathan Bedford Forrest
The original Ben "the one man Fort Pillow massacre" Garrison.

>>34549363

Certified badass.

>He commanded a Confederate rear guard after the Union victory. In the battle of Fallen Timbers, he drove through the Union skirmish line. Not realizing that the rest of his men had halted their charge when reaching the full Union brigade, Forrest charged the brigade single-handedly, and soon found himself surrounded. He emptied his Colt Army revolvers into the swirling mass of Union soldiers and pulled out his saber, hacking and slashing. A Union infantryman on the ground beside him fired a musket ball into Forrest's spine with a point-blank musket shot, nearly knocking him out of the saddle. The ball went through his pelvis and lodged near his spine. Steadying himself and his mount, he used one arm to lift the Union soldier by the shirt collar and then wielded him as a human shield before casting his body aside after he had found his way to safety. Forrest is acknowledged to have been the last man wounded at the Battle of Shiloh

>Steadying himself and his mount, he used one arm to lift the Union soldier by the shirt collar and then wielded him as a human shield before casting his body aside after he had found his way to safety.

While riding a fucking horse.

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>comes to /k/ for first time ever
>full of niggers and cucks

why even lurk

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>>34549329
>Lincoln authorized the use of extermination camps during the war to encourage race mixing and to kill full-blooded white Americans,

>>34549295
"Not considered people" is not the same as "not people." Niggers are people too, and people have inherent rights. The war was, for the Confederate states, about their states' rights, and all the economic issues inherent in abolishing a massive trade that also fueled basically every other industry in the area at the time. For the Union, it was about freeing the slaves and giving them the rights that are, by default, inalienable, although as we all know it didn't quite work out that way. There is, from a modern perspective (although certainly not from the perspective of an 1860s southern man) a massive difference between the government saying "you aren't allowed to chain people up and force them to work against their will without proper compensation, so free the slaves" and "you aren't allowed to defend yourself or stand up for your rights, so give us all your guns." The former is an enforcement of human rights, the latter a violation.

>>34549423
>go to war to "end slavery"
>have slave states as allies
>don't end slavery in your own territory until after the war

what did Abe mean by this?

>>34549423

>For the Union, it was about freeing the slaves and giving them the rights that are, by default, inalienable, although as we all know it didn't quite work out that way.

Lincoln was only concerned with maintaining his image. He was the original Obama. He did not give two shits about slaves; it was a convenient way to justify a war. No different than Woodrow Wilson intentionally putting ships in harm's way prior to WWI or Roosevelt cutting off oil to the Japanese to provoke them into an attack to justify sending troops to Europe to help his Communist buddies.

Lincoln was not a saint. He was an opportunist that didn't want to end up like Buchanan. But even Buchanan realized that waging a war to prevent secession was an illegal act of aggression, thus the War of Northern Aggression.

When will we get janitors that do their jobs

>>34549549

We're talking about the war that defined America and it's freedoms, so yea, this is important.

>>34549549
Thanks for the bump :^)

>>34546884
>>A legitimate nation is defined by how other nations see it,
>No, de facto control over a defined territory is all that is required to be a state.

That's not how it fucking works, moron. I guess Liberland, Sealand, and all those other micronations are nation-states then?

You can't just say "this shit is mine now" even if you manage to successfully defend your conquered clay. Unless you can be entirely self-sufficient, which is highly unlikely, you must rely on the legitimacy of your rule to be recognized as a nation. It's why you can't just claim a spit of land Bundy style, unless you have allies, you have absolutely zero political power.

Quit pulling shit from your ass and go take an introductory International Relations course or something.

>>34539686
Life would've been better if the Confederacy one, IMO.

>>34546894
"trea·son
ˈtrēzən
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."

Saying "fuck you" to the established state and basically attempting a coup d'etat via paramilitary force sounds a lot like treason to me.

>>34549643
The very principle our country was founded upon was the requirement that the government gave the consent of the government. If the legislative bodies decide that the country no longer has the consent of the governed, there is a clear right to withdrawal from that country.

>>34549149
>literally the cradle of civilization

Do /pol/tards ever think before speaking? The world may never know.

>>34549295
Enjoy your burning farms, confederate.

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>>34546135

>>34549373
Good, go back to your containment board and stay there.

>>34549715
Yes, humans evolved in Africa and migrated out. Niggers never left.

>>34549598
>I guess Liberland, Sealand, and all those other micronations are nation-states then?
Neither of those have any permanent population.
>>34549598
>You can't just say "this shit is mine now" even if you manage to successfully defend your conquered clay.
Of course you can.
>>34549598
>Unless you can be entirely self-sufficient, which is highly unlikely, you must rely on the legitimacy of your rule to be recognized as a nation
Nothing says a nation has to be self sufficient. Nearly every nation does international trade.
>>34549598
>It's why you can't just claim a spit of land Bundy style, unless you have allies, you have absolutely zero political power.
Of course you can. The only reason people don't do that more often is because the agents of existing states would kill them.
>>34549598
>Quit pulling shit from your ass and go take an introductory International Relations course or something.
Until very recently, nations recognized any government which had de facto control over a defined territory. That only changed when American decided in the 20th century that refusing to recognize other countries would be a convenient if unproductive form of sanctimonious grandstanding.

>>34549472
>He did this politically retarded thing for politics

You sound stupid. The south REEEEEEEED and lost.

>>34549643
It wasn't a coup d'etat. The southern states didn't try to take over the whole country. They just chose to leave.

>>34549726
>fuck turn signals
This. SC folks are nice, but they can't drive worth a damn.

>>34539686
>Charge down the hill
>Take a minie ball to the the leg and eat shit
>Sit there screaming for a bit while people kill each other all around you
>Get dragged to the medical tent eventuall
>Lol gotta amputate
>Lol wtf is anesthetic?
>Lose your leg
>Die from infection anyways
>Become ghost
>Watch snot nosed kids and fat tourists drool on the ground that your brothers killed each other for
>Angrily yell in ghost at some rando ghost hunters
>They freak the fuck out and now retarded ghost hunters start climbing all over your grave at night.

I'd pass.

>>34546372
Yeah but losing it meant the Confederates could roll up the Union's flank

>>34539686
well, I still get to shoot an inbred redneck once in a while, so I'm good.

>>34539686
BAYOOONEETS

https://youtu.be/ZL-5uyp44WA

>>34546778
The South Seceding from the union was primarily over state rights and economics (a portion of which was slavery).

The Civil War was caused by Lincoln's desire of preservation of the union.

>>34547494
>And second, why did you start the war by laying seige to Fort Sumter, huh? Why attack us, we weren't doing anything to you at that point, so why didn't you just mind your own business?
Maybe because while all the rest of previously Federally owned lands and units were in diplomatic and peaceful talks about ceding the land and peaceful passage home, Major Anderson decided to spike his guns and torch Fort Moultrie and then garrison the previously un-occupied Fort Sumter with his remaining Artillery and literally hold Charleston Harbor hostage.

When South Carolina representatives asked Buchanan what the fuck that was about, Buchanon blew it off and instead exasperated the situation by attempting to send in reinforcements with the Star of the West. Lincoln did this further and refused to simply cede the forts and preserve lives. Instead he chose to allow the situation to spiral out of control and forced the new CSA's hand giving him his Casus Belli for war.

>President Buchanan was surprised and dismayed at Anderson's move to Sumter, unaware of the authorization Anderson had received.
>Nevertheless, he refused Pickens's demand to evacuate Charleston harbor.
>Since the garrison's supplies were limited, Buchanan authorized a relief expedition of supplies, small arms, and 200 soldiers."