Why don't you own nothing but Beretta weapons?
They've had nearly five hundred years in gun-making experience. They were the ones to invent breach-loading cannons, for fuck's sake.
If you can't trust a manufacturer with that reputation, then what one can you trust?
Yeah that's why I don't own any digital cameras none of the companies have been around for 500 years.
Not even one camera company today ever manufactured a daguerrotupe or used nitrocellulose film. And without that experience how can I trust them with modern technology?
>>34526721
Because every time I squeeze the trigger it goes "wop" and sprays marinara sauce on my targets.
I'll stick with muh Murican made burger cannons.
>>34526721
But i do
>>34526721
I debated between a Beretta and a CZ but went with CZ because i'm a special snowflake
>>34526721
>They were the ones to invent breach-loading cannons
The fuck? Breechloading cannon were around for more than 100 years before Beretta existed. Where the fuck did that claim come from?
>>34526721
I admit I haven't given their rifles a very serious look, but their handguns don't tend to really stand out in their market niches.
>double stack pistol
The PX4 is cool and the compact/subcompact are nice CCW's, but the slide-mounted controls are poison in the American market.
The APX will probably do much better than the PX4 because it has a "Glock-like" manual of arms.
The 92fs is just a big ass gun for being 9mm. It's hard for people to find a use for a gun that large in today's market.
>micro CCW
Even setting aside the bad press the Pico has gotten, people just don't get excited for a gun with a slide that tall and a grip that short, especially when the LCP costs quite a bit less and is a reliable pistol.
Then you've got the Nano, which lacks a slide release lever, which is poison in the American market, where consumers believe in universality of controls.
The Bobcat, Tomcat and other little mouse guns are nice pistols, but hard to find and trend on the expensive side. The Tomcat is also a little fat, given that it's supposed to be a .32 caliber pocket pistol.
>pistol caliber carbine
The CX4 Carbine strikes me as a really well designed gun, but the price of $650-700 seems a little high for something that would basically just be a range toy only for a lot of people.
I'm thinking the next handgun I get is going to be one. I finally want a hammer fired and ever since I was a kid and I saw pic related I've wanted to someday get one. Also Die Hard has played a role in this.
>>34529921
I want to buy a Tomcat so bad, but then I look at the price.
>$550 for a .32 that is bigger than my LCP.
>>34526721
But I do OP
>>34529921
>92FS
>too big
stop being a manlet op. It's a full sized duty pistol it's supposed to be big (same size as a G17).
I CC the thing daily (as a manlet) and it's fine, stop believing shit memes.
>>34530936
>I do something objectively and demonstrably less efficiently than you
>lol why aren't you doing it too what a retart
>>34531192
>I'm yelling about opinions I don't have any experience to back up my claims with
>wow you actually do thing and have opinions, stop it because it makes me look dumb
The only manufacturer I trust is one who is driven by passion, not profit.
That being said, Beretta Holdings is one of the two firearms megaconglomerates I like to see buy out smaller companies, the other being Herstal Holdings. Really not that much of a compliment since their competition is Chinese brand grabbers who drive treasured names into the ground.
>tfw Cerberus got Remington instead of Beretta
>>34531366
You're right, the 92 is much smaller and lighter than a glock.
Oh, wait.
>>34531500
Yes, because that's all that matters in a CCW. There's no advantages whatsoever to increased weight, barrel length, sight radius, or a non-tilting design.
>>34531522
Glad you understand.
I've been wanting to pick up a 686 Ultralight at some point in the future. I don't think I've ever heard anything negative about their shotguns.
>>34526875
Me too, I'll take my superior slavshit over some WoP dago guinea shit any day.
>>34526721
Because I like Colt too.
>>34530936
>he doesn't think big guns are practical even though I have a big gun and I make it work somehow
>FRICKIN MANLET REEEEE
Gee, I wonder why the quality of /k/ has gone down over the years.
>>34526721
Beretta Shotguns and SMGs = God Tier
Beretta Metal Handguns = Demi-God Tier
Beretta Rifles = Mortal Tier
Beretta Polymer Handguns = That's Heresy
I put in an order to Wilson Combat for the 92G way back in November.
They finally sent it out yesterday to my FFl
>>34526721
Beretta doesn't make AKs
Their pistol line-up is rivaled by better offerings and their o/u shotguns are too expensive. I thought about buying their autoloader for 3 gun, but the Benelli M2 has a better aftermarket and shoots smoother.
>>34531522
Actually, yeah, considering most self defense scenarios happen within 10 yards. I'm trying to shoot belligerent dindus, not run an IPSC stage.
>>34533282
Agreed. IMHO all they lack is the market understanding to produce new products to compete with the ever changing wants of people.
>>34533282
The PX4 is honestly a better shooter than the 92FS. The 92 isn't bad, but the PX4 was designed with more modern materials and design in mind. I can shoot more accurately with it and the rotating barrel does reduce recoil, even in something as mild as 9x19.
my 92 exists to look pretty, mostly. It's good, but it shows its age.
I wish Beretta would produce:
1. 45 acp version of the 92fs
2. A Beretta branded revolver. Preferably something more sleek in blued and polished steel/nickel finishes.
3. An alloy framed pistol carbine that isn't a boat like the Cx4 turned out to be.
>>34533434
I thought beretta did make branded revolvers?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_Stampede
I own a good amount of beretta products for being 24 y/o
>92fs
>m9
>m9a3
>APX -2x (just ordered a second to put a rds mount on and put in my plate carrier)
Over all extremely reliable pistols I love my m9 and my m9a3. Granted that they are bulky like a full sized sig pistol but they do their job and as I said extremely reliable. I have only had a few FTF and it was with my 92fs with some Tula steel case (I got a bad batch about 2-3 rounds every other box 200 round bulk order) that the primer blew out. Replaced only a one barrel due to squib but was able to get a local gun smith to save the barrel of my 92fs.
Saving up for the ARX carbine as I'm realizing I am no AR fan. And I realize I'm not a fan to gas to my face with rifles so I am hopeful.
>>34533427
Skipped the Px4 series not to be a snob but I didn't feel it for me. However just realizing they have 45 acp models may be put on the radar
>>34533977
Forgot to list my nano because I just passed it off to my sister because she despite my protest moved to California.
At least she has a ccw. :-)
>>34526721
My M9 was all fucked up asymmetrical sloppy machining like I've never seen, EVERYONE on Beretta forum was like "oh shit wtf send it back"...sent to Beretta and they said "That is normal for M9 as opposed to 92fs" basically fuck you keep this defect.
>>34533742
I should have been more specific. I'd like to see a fancy Beretta DA/SA revolver series
>>34532274
You're just a poorfag.
>>34534867
heh, the funny thing is, the first pistol I owned was a Beretta 92FS Inox. Traded it for the CZ 75B :)
>>34533742
they haven't made them in years either. I liked them, a lot. Though transfer bars are gay on SAA clones.
>>34534917
baka.
Anyone have a 92FS that won't rack with a new barrel? Changed the locking blocks out, but it still won't rack. Feels like it's getting stuck on the locking block even when that same locking block works fine on the old barrel. The new locking block works fine on the old barrel.
Is it possible it's the plunger?
>>34534696
>asymmetrical sloppy machining
What did he mean by this?
>>34534917
>Beretta 92FS Inox.
>Traded it for the CZ 75B
Because I worked there and the QC is dogshit
>>34529921
>he cant cc a full size
Its always glockbabbies too. Subcompacts are worthless
>>34536013
He said Beretta not Remington.
>>34526721
Why don't you own only Fords? They were the first ones to mass produce cars for the people.
>>34526787
Where can I get one of those?
>>34536013
And I worked for Nintendo.
>>34531192
>objectively less efficient
>carries more rounds than a G17 for the same size
>lighter recoiling while having exceptionally manageable weight
If it helps you sleep at night glockfag by all means believe your memes. I'll just keep CC'ing a superior handgun
>>34533360
>I want an objectively poorer shooting handgun when my life depends on it
I only own one Beretta
I'll probably eventually get a px4 compact carry, but we'll see.
>>34526772
>implying Kodak didnt use nitrocellulose film
>implying photography is >500 years old let alone digital cameras
>>34526721
Because the ARX is garbage.
>>34530936
>manlet CCing a M9
when will they learn?
5'11'' Glock 19 Masterrace
>>34540705
>Glock 19
>masterrace
Git gud senpai, if I can CC a duty size gun better than you, you're obviously doing something wrong
>>34535754
>>34535057
I just like the CZ 75B way better.
>b-but muh black lagoon!
>>34541387
Everyone *can* cc a 92, it's just shit if you have even a semi-active lifestyle. Then again this is /k/, so...
>>34541932
>Then again this is /k/, so...
Everyone just shoves a duty size handgun into their fat roll and calls it a day.
>>34541932
>semi active lifestyle
College student who runs around campus a lot with gat. No issues whatsoever.
Also if you don't believe me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9MqGeWtLrM
>>34541849
Me too, the 92FS feels like a bloated cow compared to the CZ 75B.
>>34526721
Generally, 500 years of manufacturing knowledge does lend to quality. But some managers want things so cheap, they are willing to pressure engineers into making crap sometimes.
Finding out that the Tomcat .32 has a cracked frame problem. They goofed. They honored the warranty for only 3 years. After that, it's yours to fix. I bought mine 4 years old second hand at a legit gun shop not knowing about this issue.
Fortunately, the crack problem hasn't arrived, yet. I will be super pissed if I have to weld and machine the frame.
I've owned a couple baby Berettas. With it's tip-up barrel the Bobcat is great for use with Aguila Colibri ammo.