AR thread/AR General/ARG

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>bully zone at 6? guy come on its 2052.
go was some rocks ^:

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>>34515683
>>34515669
cant into linking

>>34515683
wdhmbt

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>>34515697
its been a long day

>>34515683
Go learn proper spelling and typing.

>>34515704
Nice glock

>>34515704
have a bath and drink a root beer babe

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>>34515727
if you say so

>>34515743
Clothes and alias when?

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>>34515760
no clue. mod0 is going to succ my money rn

>>34515774
Bogus. I hate you now.

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Cutest nuzzle brake uwu

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>>34515790
>now

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>>34515683
nigger what

>>34515801
It's shit

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>>34515805
That "pistol" looks like shit, please stop posting it
>>34515801
>not

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>>34515806
Soon.

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>>34515774
hey kid

wanna buy some ras

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comfy

>>34515652

I'm new to rifles, so noob question incoming. Is building a custom AR akin to building a PC, in that one can build a rifle comparable to a factory model at a fraction of the cost?

>>34515834
Burt plz

>>34515814
Aw shit, still gonna use Flandre's tools?

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>>34515814
>Type 3

>>34515837
No

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>>34515834
>No optics
>Left handed

>>34515843
Ye, hopefully I'll be able to go down sometime next month. That'll be up to them though with the babby and the move.

>>34515849
It goes with my Imbel kit and they're some of the nicest receivers currently available.

>>34515813
want to buy it?

>>34515825
buy a lnib from psi

>>34515859

Gotcha, thanks.

>>34515866
Of new made, it's the only way to go if you don't want lolgrayslake or cooooonan. Still, heavy as fug, especially with full SA kit.

>>34515837
You might save a little money, maybe, but the main advantage to building your own is only having stuff on it that you want and not paying for things you'd replace later. So in a sense you might save money, but quality parts aren't going to be cheap.

>>34515825
im*

jesus i need to sleep

>>34515874
I would to get your personal info

>>34515893
Yeah I wanted it to be a full Imbel build anyway. Didn't want to settle for new DSA or Coonan or pay extra for the LMT/DSA.

>>34515893
You can mill them into type II, not really worth the money for an Imbel kit though

>>34515900
only if he's selling

>>34515912
he is selling me a kit. im either going to get a olt barrel cut or get the lmt

>>34515908
Yeah, that's another possibility but I'm ok with type 3. With the receiver, my total cost for this build will be about $1100.

>>34515922
Get the lmt

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>need to wait 12 hours between tung oil applications
This triggers the 'tisms of an impatient fuckwipe like myself.

>>34515922
that 600 no bcg lmt?

desu just cut a 6920. I got a complete 6920 16" URG still sealed in the factory bag for $375 on arfcom. When my stamp arrives I'll send it to Adco. In the meantime I'm going to upgrade the bolt with new spring and o-ring, I read that the one-piece gas ring is actually shit so I'll probably skip that

>>34515898

Gotcha, so its more about the ability to customize to your heart's content, rather than a cost-saving measure. Thanks!

>>34515922
>circumcising a barrel
Oh, you're a kike?

>>34515932
im waiting to see how much bcm charges for shipping. lmt charges 24 and the upper is more expensive

>>34515962
yeah shits cheap if you get it cut.

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Oh boy

>>34515981
Somebody on AKF was selling a ton of Colt 10.3s not long ago for like 400, shoulda got one of those when I posted about it

>>34515964
Yes. Good analogy is buying a big box PC and having onboard GPU on your motherboard. Fucking why, throw that on the trash and get a mobo without shitty components soldered all over it and put in dedicated gfx card

at the end of the day you didn't save money, but you've got a thing more finely tuned to your wants

>>34516002
>400
no

>>34515997
This is what, their 4th try?

>>34516007
>400 for a colt 10.3 is bad
>600 for an lmt is ok

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>>34515861
aimpoint micro soon

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Wait brb bigg mac first

>>34515981
2 months ago GB had those uppers for 350

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>>34515950
Posted for TS.

>>34515997
>big mac
It's shit.

>>34516002
This is silly. Adco will cut and refinish (mil spec phosphate) your barrel and you end up with the exact same thing--maybe better, given a custom shop's attention to detail/qc--and costs less still. And a cut down colt is more clone correct than a factory 10.3 for a mod 0. keks

>>34516017
lmt is more than a barrel

>>34516026
there are some for 350 with no bcg, 450 with.

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>>34516032
Also posted for TS.

>>34516047
You didn't want the BCG anyway

>>34516056
i want a olt bcg

>>34516047
So was the Colt

>>34515825

How much?

>>34516058
Yea I know, you didn't want the lmt.

>>34516064
>a ton of Colt 10.3s not long ago for like 400
sounds like a barrel to me

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>>34516075
>assume something
>get it wrong
>get mad
Top lel

My LGS has a Bushmaster XM15 M4A3 in stock that after the 150$ rebate Bushmaster has going will be 600 out the door.

Is it worth it? It's kind of a spur of the moment decision here.

>>34516065
$350 I don't actually want to sell it but that's what I'd part with it for

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>>34515652
bout to head home, eat dinner, and drink some Oberon.

>>34516088
No. You wouldn't see that rebate kickback for like 8 months anyways, don't be fooled by the rebate jew

>>34516088
I should say that this will be my second AR - I have a decked out M&P 15 that I have been tinkering with for a while. I like the bushmaster because it comes with the carry handle and has that classic look.

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>>34516086
>>get mad

>>34516105
You're being WGWS right now.

Geissele rails aren't supposed to have any gap between the rail and receiver, right?

>>34516120
is your receiver billet?

>>34516128
No, forged

>>34516120
There should be gap

>>34516132
i have not experienced a gap with the two ive owned. are you sliding the handguard down all the way?

>>34516156
But it should be tiny, like a sheet of paper gap, not a credit card gap

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>>34515482
How's the mount? I think it looks good.


So what do you guys think about Radian uppers?

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Big Mac was shit here we go

>>34516167
I took the mounting screws out and checked it again, it does go all the way down but it looks like when I torqued down the barrel nut, it didn't go to the last threads, and I can't fit the mounting screws into the holes. Looks like I can't half-ass with the grease.

>>34516191
Do you buy a new gun every day? Im gelluous

>>34516199
how far off are the screws?

>>34516199
Correct geissele installation:
>barrel nut 40ft/lbs
>crossbolt holes centered on the barrel nut relief channels
With both of those correct, gap or no gap is irrelevent

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why did they have to ruin the mawl by covering it with a bunch of plastic shit

>>34516191
>ruger
ydg

Is that a maglite?

>>34516237
>Implying your in the MAWL end of the nvg game

>>34516249
^
>>34516237

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>yo wallet o yo life intensifies

>>34516249
Yes

>>34516191
Nice walther

>>34516220
Like a millimeter at most.
>>34516234
Yes, the nut is on and was torqued to 40 ft-lb of torque, and I can mount the rail fine with a tiny gap. It's secure, but my autism.

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>>34516286
Go LMT

>>34516268
>ftf intensifies

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Ok but seriously here we go

>>34516286
>It's secure, but my autism
Let this sooth your autism: if there is no gap, your barrel is not free floating and is still subject to pressure on the rail

>>34516268
>fires out of battery

>>34515997

>inb4 it goes off out of battery

>>34516286
get a hammer

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*smacks lips*

>>34516311
I suppose, but it still bugs me a bit.
>>34516331
No, I'm gonna undo the barrel nut and slather the threads with moly grease, THEN torque it into place again

>>34516329
Why no /psg/?

>>34516342
ok but a hammer will work

>>34516003

>not buying a surplus work station PC on then dropping a video card in it

Intel Xeon chips are dollar for dollar MUCH faster than their i7 counterparts.

>>34516341
AYO

>>34516344
Paths Spawn General?

>>34516341
>>34516309
>>34516268
>>34516191
Not /arg/ related fuck off

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>collects ebt

>>34516344

I'm on mobile at the hospital, so I don't really have any pictures, or the time to keep it bumped and reply.

Feel free to make one though, I'll post in it.

>>34516362
Why do you keep buying these?

>>34516365
It's all ogre now

>>34516362

Is that one of the striker fired abominations they were on fire sale for $250 earlier this year?

IIRC every review roasted them. MAC couldn't get his to work reliably at all.

>>34516258
>implying I'm not stitching together 6 FLIR optics plus my scopecam into a 360 panorama inside my powersuit-stabilized, gimbal-dampened ballistic helmet
>implying I'm not trickling down my laser innovations into be meyers so they can release it to the military and gen pop 5 years later

>>34516373
Like fast food, he uses them to fill the holes his dead children left him.

>>34516384
Presumably if you use it as a bathroom gun only with premium ammo it will only have to work reliably once in your life (if at all)...decent odds, even for a piece of shit.

>>34516249
yes, it's just shorter so the police can beat people in tight corners

>>34516401
But you could buy a Bersa Thunder and actually practice with it.

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>>34516341
>propped open with a french fry

>>34516258
>implying I can't buy whatever I want with mommy's credit card

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>>34515683
these are the contributions of pobo

>>34516411
Well I mean or you could get a hipoint...the principle remains the same. This thing at least has decent aesthetics and probably better ergonomics than a lot of comparable options.

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>>34516428
Much better.

>>34516428
It's your fault for letting an autistic kid leave the delivery room

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>>34516441
maybe ill toss a handstop panel kit on it, but probably not

>military tries to adopt mlok
>cant because there are no vfgs

>>34516451
I'm impressed how much better that looks

>>34516460
dlet this post

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Man like right out of the box god damn

>>34516460
It's not like they couldn't demand kac/td/dd(no pls) make them one

>>34516451
This gun doesnt have any interesting character or pedigree or history

I feel like I'd forget what it looks like if you stopped posting pictures.

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>>34516460
>kac approaches mil with a huge contract for their broomhandles in mlok
>3 dollar mlok vfgs as soon as block iii us introduced

>>34516451
Honestly I think that would look really slick and feel great.

>>34516460
No Mlok VFG? If there's a joke there I'm too hammered to get it.

>>34516362
remington is shit, you're shit kys

>>34516428
wat r spex on the perst
why dont you have real glass on the rifle
doesn't the peq get in the way of your sight picture

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>>34516460
>thinking they wont just put whatever they can find on pic sections
block III is going to look like AIDS

>>34516461
mvg really deletes aesthetics. i think its the taper towards the rail side that makes is look ghey

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>>34516474
>doesnt have any interesting character or pedigree or history
you know not what you ask

>>34516488
what even is this post

>>34516501
Post sideview with no VFG

>>34516471
You're no longer amusing.

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>>34515652
hi fags

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>>34516543
I love the smell of tannerite in the morning.

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I'm fucking farming in the (you)s as of late
>>34516466
No
>>34516472
>>34516479
>chinese replicas flood the market and break off
>"WTF MLOK IS TRASH"
Pottery
>>34516501
Yet the clone bois defend it. PoopBoy himself is building some crap

>>34516558
>5lbs of rifle on a 10lb skelly

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>>34516558
>accessory breaks
>mlok nut still attached tho
>"wtf i love mlok
I need to do the deploy again but actually collapse the stock

>>34516558
>PoopBoy himself is building some crap
>best mod
>crap
new lows, even for you

>>34516558
>responds to minimum 4 people per post
le you farmer xD

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>>34516558
>some crap
We can't be friends anymore

>>34516590
The track suit makes it.

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>>34516653

>>34516653
blue&white > black&white
>but i still own both

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I just want a qt ar

>>34516675
Hmmm those outdoor research gloves look pretty good

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Filter me.

The press and punch work as well as the inelegant sear design in the guts are pretty crude. It has a one piece rail/sub frame like the new Sigs, though this one does not appear to be removable. The sear works like a Mosin, with no subtlety.

Despite this, the trigger doesn't feel THAT bad. I have strikers with worse triggers. Feels like a stock M&P acktchually.

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>>34516471
OUNCES

>>34516696
>fingerless

>>34516701
how many sips out of 10?

>>34516709
Yes hence the pretty good looks
Not like they come that way

>>34516702
what is this craps

>>34516726
I used to have a set of sailing gloves exactly like that. Absolute meme

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This is not oil, it looks like some kind of heat treatment gone wrong. I don't know if this is something showing through thin melonite or if this is a symptom of heat application after melonite process. If the slide weren't so hueg I might worry about this.

I've never seen this discoloration on any gun before.

>>34516722
6 sips of 10, it could be a lot worse. Like SCCY bad.

>>34516675
Fuck off retard, go pay your tax stamp annually

>>34516748
Yeah the ironsights look good, so do the aerators, I might get some.

>>34516774
See faggot its posts like this that make people think you're a fed

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Looks like somebody programmed the wrong feed rate into the barrel CNC, this is some pretty bad chatter.

Also there's a big nick or ding on the edge that got there prior to having the edges broken in the tumbler.

>>34516785
Mechanix Originals evrytiem

>>34516807
>he doesn't know

>>34516774
Where did that image even come from, I've never seen him with any of that gear

>>34516818
Too normie

>>34516701
Nor ar related

>>34516811>>34516767
it's got character

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This is going to look so cute with my M9A3. Fuck my shit up 13.7 barrel. Let's goooooo!

>>34516818
>Where did that image even come from, I've never seen him with any of that gear
I can detect an akg poster at 900m

how much money should i spend to get my first babykiller?

>>34516820
Can't beat the quality:cost tho. Even the Oakley's I tried a while ago I didn't like as much as the mechanix. But they were also brand new I guess

>>34516839
reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>34516839
Too bad your sbr won't be able to harm him until he's several hundred meters further in

>>34516841
$50000 get a full auto.

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>>34516738
woven carbon fiber tubes
>a lighter handguard means you can swing the front end of your rifle around faster
Its basically for dyel pussies
at least the company had the sense to put the Gucci tax on it

>>34516862
Sights on the MG42 go up to something like 2km. Im good to go
>>34516841
900 Kekfrank

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>>34516862
He won't get a shot anyways cause wgws will keep complaining about reliable fragmentation and velocities too much

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Remington, rather than redesigning the magazine and frame to fit .380, chose instead to add a spacer to the back of the 9mm magazine in order to fit .380. I wonder if their decision to scale the Rohrbaugh down to .380 is a result of their attempt to scale the R51 UP to 9mm last time?

>>34516821
Filter me or report me for posting weapons on a weapon board.

Don't come with little liberal microagressions here, demanding such and what not. It's cowardly and unbecoming, either lay down bantz or ignore me. Half-measures are never a solution, and there are no safe spaces here.

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>>34516295
Always LMT

>>34516896
MY WAIFU!
*grabs u by the throat*
BACK OFF!

Is Bushmaster good? Adam Lanza liked them

>>34516897
Not AR related shitlord

>>34516929
not anymore

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>>34516924
>teleports behind you

>>34516929

Jesus titty fucking Christ, HELLO SUMMER.

>>34516897
kek

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>>34516884
>literal Jew stars
Oy fucking vey

>>34516897
>posts shitty pistol purchases here
>not on the main board
Too afraid of being called a loser and cuck?

>>34515834
What belt pls and pouch in rear

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>>34516972
fuck, i can't unsee it now

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>>34516821
>not an ar15 post
>not an argument
>not an ad hominem attack
>not even a very intelligent observation
this is new form of low energy shitposting and you're a faggot.
Kill yourself.

>>34517035
uggo

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>>34515652
R8

>>34517035
Barf kys

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No major complaints about the RM380. The machining is much better than that seen in the RP9. The double recoil spring looks a little ramshackle, like it's home-made. It's very easy to rack, trigger is not awful but it is typically DAO and breaks wayyyy back at the frame. Assuming it actually functions, for $150 after rebate, I'd recommend it as a pocket/ankle pistol.

The RP9, for $220 after rebate, I don't think I would recommend to anyone. You could get a Walther PPX for not much more than that.

>>34516821
>>34516977
>being this upset on a aruban straight futanari appreciation board
get some air m9

>>34517051
7.7/10

>>34517035
post you're own ar, not a stock photo

>>34517051
Looks good but paint could be better. Put MRDS on top of scope

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>>34517044
>uggo
t.beans genes

don't reproduce.

>>34517061
Walthers are garbage

>>34517065
Which one? Doctor?

>>34517077
Perfect breeding

Why are gen 3 window meme mags almost $20 this shits are plastic ffs

>>34517098
Insight or Eokek for aesthetic t b h

>>34517077
i wont

>>34517116
How can you have every wrong opinion, its unreal

>>34517060

>using vomiting as an insult

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH DIRECT IMPINGEMENT

>>34517116
Waste of money, above scope means no cheekweld
45 offset is best

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>>34515652
Literally who r u

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>>34517112
To make you mad faggot.
Stay with your c308, steel cased ammo, and muh $3 mags

>>34517159
>45 offset
is cclamp also the best grip

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>>34517133
>being this dum

>>34517159
It's just for the aesthetic m8

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Memes

>>34517077

>don't reproduce.

How is he supposed to pay for a wedding with all that credit card debt?

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>>34517181
Memes part dos

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Should be picking up SCAR 16 on ~thursday. Want to file a stamp on it asap. What barrel length to put on form?

>>34517195
dank af sempai post it again

>>34517197
as short as possible

>>34517197
15.5

>>34517197

10.5"

That's about the shortest length that will work with common suppressors.

You could go down to 10.3" but you'd limit some of your options.

>>34517219
Could just file as 14.5"
I'm getting it cut and pinned to that, could just pick up a 10" bbl later

>>34517239
Got a hybrid coming
Min. Length is 10" on that

Can file as 14.5 since I know I'm going to have that, then I can get a 10" barrel after the stamp comes in.

What's the frag range on 77gr tmk from a 10"?

>aimpoint pro+matech rear for 260 shipped
If this is real tho

>>34517272
Post a link I'll help evaluate

>>34517283
It's just a sale ad, not some ebay deal or something
>gookmoot the nigger won't even let me post a link no matter how i format it

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>>34517267

>>34517336
Where desu

>>34517342
arfcom im sure

>>34517342
tinyurl
jfwfn8v

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>>34517339
>Acceptable velocities
Danke

>>34517351
Oh shit it fucking worked

>>34517351

>ain't clickin' that shit nigga

>>34517459
Your phone won't autodownload it anyways

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>>34516980
tyr tactical gunfighter belt and tyr cutaway small ifak

How much should I pay for a comp m2?

>>34517498
ty bby

>>34517116
Insight what?

>>34517553
$300 with a mount

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hmm

>this nigga was actually legit
Well I just bought another PRO and a Matech for 260 shipped

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>>34517592
no

>>34517611
Inb4 they are both broke.

>>34517627
He's got pics of the dot on and the matech stood up, also a bunch of good reps and high post count

>>34517592
can you offset 45 the surememe without blocking the beamz
between that, a new fire selector lever, and a more aesthetic magazine, I would definitely shoot it

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>>34517626
its nice tho

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Remington is literally a quality brand for discerning intelligencia.

>>34517685
Didn't you already own the same rail a while ago?

>>34517592
Not a fan of the rail desu.

>>34517746
No thanks

>>34517592
For sale already?

>>34517746
Im full

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>>34517779
ts is posted for it

>>34517755
ya just go ahead and PP me $500 and ill get it right out

https://www.amazon.com/Lucas-Oil-10301-X-Tra-Grease/dp/B000IG20RW/
Can I use this grease on my AR?

>>34517815
it will work but probably not to well

>>34517820
What grease should I get for my barrel nut then?

>>34517685
Your acog needs irons or rmr on top

>>34517830
Just lick it a lil bit

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>>34517830
permatex anti seize to make sure it will come back off when you want it to

looks like silver jizz

>>34517639
>pic of the matech stood up
lol

>>34517685
I like the ACOG more than the Aimpoint aesthetically

>>34517844
can I put that on my buffer tube threads also?

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>>34516268
unboxing stuff is a preteen chick thing, just stop. and the is an AR thread......pic related

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>>34517856
Explain urself

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>>34517878
you can but there is no need to for those threads

only one that you can, but dont need to, put anti seize on is the barrel nut. Everything else is fine without it.

>>34517690
so whatchu planin with the ghost glock?

>>34517844
Not him but I used blue loctite errwhere, including on the barrel nut. At the time I didn't think I'd ever try to get it off but just days later I started thinking about replacing my rail.

Am I fucked? It's been a couple years now.

>>34517685
rifle is too sexy

who's most annoying and has the gucciest rifles 2017
Psi > Burt > suchka > giddy > pb or qb (I dont remember which one is which, get your shit together, one had a nice mk18 and the other has an uggo m4 abortion) > anons > normies > dog shit > fluffy > gecko > ruger

>>34517885
It's spring loaded to stay open. The detent that keeps it folded is what breaks, and they break often.

>lower 1/3 co witness

How do people tolerate the gay ass cheek weld they get with this shit?

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>>34517905
nah, blue is really light duty shit. if you're really worried about it then apply heat with a propane torch, not to much, and burn it off. if you used a lot its gonna take a bit of heat and torque to get those dudes off

>>34517919
training

>>34517918
I'll see when I get it I guess. If it doesn't stay down I'll just ziptie it

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>>34517939
>tfw no targetnigger to flag

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>>34517902
Threaded barrel, RMR

Posted 4TS

>>34517995
>nothing will fit together right

>>34517995
>constant lingering of Cheeto dust causes a gritty slide and trigger

>>34517995
>the feds already know about your "ghost" gun from you posting it here

>>34517995
>it explodes taking your fingers with it
>ywn feel a French fry again

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posted for aol instant messenger

>>34518103
Nice lens filter

>>34517995

What barrel?

Storm Lake used to be the go to brand, but now that they're owned by Cerberus, I don't know any more.

The new Alpha Wolf stuff is getting great reviews too.

>>34517995
>no matter what you call it it's still a glock
>youre one of them

>>34518142
Low quality compared to >>34518132

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>>34518149
no u

>>34518122
Hes doing a 40cal

>>34518161

Pretty sure I'm the one who suggested 40sw so that he could get a 9mm conversion barrel...

>>34518179
Literally the only reason to get a .40 frame is to convert to .357 Sig

>>34518179
Hes doing 40 and staying 40. It's his new problem solver.

>>34518188
Or to shoot niggers innacity

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>>34518122
Gemtech barrel. I looked at Alpha but the flutes look a little wonky, I'm trying to make a slicky build instead of the jagged milled out hi-speed stuff everyone does. I even sanded the weird finger bumps off the trigger guard, pic related. No .40, placid 9mm forever.

Also hey FGMM 168 is on sale for 80 CPR at PSA. Lowest I've ever see on this planet b5.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/federal-308-168gr-sierra-matchking-bthp-gold-medal-ammunition-20rds-gm308m.html

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>>34518149
illuminator helps

>>34518194
>>34518188
.40 is great caliber. the memes control your lives, nerds.

>>34518206
Yea. Just don't have it on when you're in the bathroom and then look in the mirror.

I might have to get a 14 after the range is built.

>>34516972
>shape that is efficient at distributing load
>da joos

Fuck off. We are at maximum tard capacity already.

1/7 twist or 1/9 twist for a 20" barrel

I will be mostly shooting 55gr bullets while occasionally using 70-77gr bullets for hunting.

>>34517051
I'm upset, and I can't articulate why, so I'll resort to politely requesting that you kys at your earliest convenience.

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>>34517051
I've seen this somewhere before. Don't make that mistake again.

>>34517173
Likewise newfriend.

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>>34518285
How you like that meme blaster?

>>34518281
1/7

>>34518281
Of those choices, 1:7 because you say you would eventually sometimes shoot 77 gr. If you said you would exclusively shoot 55gr then 1:9 would be marginally better.

Sounds like 1:8 would be better for you tho. It'll shoot 55 gr crap fine but also do really well with mid-weight 69 gr stuff and okay with heavy stuff.

>>34518290
It's pretty meme-y, doesn't fill any real world role and could very realistically be dangerous.

The novelty is worth it for the cost of entry.

>>34518202

>Also hey FGMM 168 is on sale for 80 CPR at PSA. Lowest I've ever see on this planet b5.

I already ordered 500 rounds of it when it went on sale

>one day I'll load these 175 SMKs I've had sitting around

>>34518366
What did you do?

>>34518377
its broke, halp me fix it

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>>34516102
You read the Troy tirade?

>>34516178
Sexy if pic related.

>>34516362
BURT Why

>>34516441
What mount?

>>34516767
I honestly like it. It is likely to be fine.

>>34516923
What rail covers on the left?
I'm skeptical. Remind me of some airshit ones I had.

>>34517197
11.5"

>>34517611
Nice.

>>34517690
Discerning intelligencia have control over their diet. Just want the best for you bbz.

>>34517995
I emailed Polymer80 and they still kinda being dodgy about the full size update. Finally got them to call it something. They're calling it the PF940V2 I think. Sometime this year they say, but they won't even tell me when they're going to release pictures.

How hard was it to complete the 80%? I've got access to a mill, and a drill press, but I prefer to use the drill press otherwise I'll have some explaining to do.

>>34518202
Gucci image. How do you like the grip texture? You going to get a magwell extension?
Does it seem like quality?
Also what BCG?

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