What is the best bolt action rifle in term of accuracy and

Mausingfield. Though there's no "rifle" until it's constructed.

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>>34509287
Gewehr 98

>>34509303
Agreed, One beautiful rifle.

>>34509287
The one that has been professionally bedded, action trued and had cartridges specifically loaded for the barrel and matched to the high quality optic mounted to it.

>>34509324
This. Professionally and correctly customed/modified bolt actions will always be king.

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>>34509296
Came here to post this.

/psg/ hive mind.

K31's accuracy if im hunting deer, SMLE's reliability if im hunting men

>>34509287
Most likely some custom bolt action. Mauser actions are the most reliable, they have controlled feed etc. As far as accuracy, a lot of even mass produced rifles are being made with great accuracy.

>>34509287
MRC M1999 action. Pre-64 Model 70 clone with M70 trigger. Can't get more reliable than that.

For me it's the Mosing Nagant, the best wood-stocked bolt-action rifle.

>>34509287
Something that's ungodly expensive and completely custom made. At a price point where marginal returns are damn near diminished.

>>34510685
Surely you jest

>>34509287
Anyone who doesn't say K-31 is lying to you.

Lee Enfield models, Mauser models or Mosin models. Nearly all of them are great. With Lee Enfield being the most comfortable, the Mosin being the most reliable and the Mauser being them most accurate. To my knowledge, at least. I may be wrong.

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>>34509296
>>34510287

https://www.americanrifle.com/product/mausingfield-bolt-action/

is this a joke?

>>34509287
Mauser actions are incredibly reliable with controlled feed and a huge extractor. They're not the most accurate though.

One of the modern takes of the Mauser action with the same feed and extraction combined with a multi-lug high surface area bolt head would be better.

Combine that with the right barrel cartridge combination. The right hand loads with the cases closest in in spec to one another with identical powder loads optimized for the correct bullet for the barrel and you're close.

Takes a lot of time, effort, and testing to get there but that's what separates amateur shooters from professional shooters.

>>34510685
Stop using /ck/ memes.

>>34509287
>best

no upper limit

spend more $$ get what you want

For me its definitely not the mauser,

Its gotta be the Mas-36, Or lee enfield, or enfield P17

I've never shot a Arisaka or schmidt rubin but i hear good things and are on my to buy list

AIs are incredible

> Be me
> Shootin my 1936 Mauser K98K with Nazi runes and SS shit
> funny click
> Hangfire? dud? squib?
> Start counting 10 second in my head
> Done still no bang, so its not a hangfire
> Wait another couple of seconds just in case
> Start to rotate bolt
> Hear second click
> Bolt slams straight into my nose, rifle goes flying out of hand
Turns out the rifle was shit, it didn't like to fire with the bolt dully down unless you had the bolt down (and while keeping it down) pull it toward you, then took your other hand and smacked the rear of the bolt.

I fucking hate that weapon, i had to sell it as a non shooter.

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>>34509287
I rechambered my Enfield for 7.62x54r.
It's pretty accurate and reliable.

>>34511117
That's actually fucking hilarious

>>34511101
This. High end bolt actions are a bottomless money pit. The more money you throw at it the better it is (although there are diminishing returns)

>>34511260
Come on now Zed, what happened to the .303 being the best cartridge ever invented?

>>34511266
I've lost count of how many times i've broken my nose, i'm pretty sure that was the 5th time, as i only broke my nose a couple months before that

>>34511286
At least it didn't go through your face.

>>34511117
>M-muh mauser

>>34509287
If reliability is a concern go with a Mauser action. If accuracy is a concern go with something new production. Pretty much any new production hunting gun is going to be accurate enough for your needs with the right ammo and optics. I'm not going to spend $500-1000 more just to get my groupings a few millimeters tighter.

Some modern Mauser action rifles are the Ruger scout, Ruger m77, and CZ 550. If anyone can add to that list let me know because I'm in the market for one too.

>>34511260
Isn't the rifle not strong enough to handle those pressures from 7.62x54r?

>>34511326
At maximum pressure, yes.
Most 54r is loaded way below that.

>>34511315
Some mauser actions are really as accurate and good as they get. Modern production outdoes old mauser rifles in bore and barrel dimensions, but you could still build a high-end precision rifle on a mauser platform.

>>34509303
>best surplus bolt action rifle
Fuck yes
>best bolt action rifle
Fuck no

Is there such a thing as an unreliable bolt action rifle though?

I've had four different ones and I just can't imagine any of them having a malfunction.

>>34511744
Some can have weak extractors, or won't eject if you don't pull back hard enough, or will be hard to chamber if you push in at an angle. Generally they're reliable, but you wouldn't want one to hang up if you're hunting dangerous game or using it in war. That's where the Mauser action steps in.

>>34509287
Mosin Nagant M1891/30 on both accounts

>>34509287
Mauser 98 for game, SMLE for men.

>>34509287
Springfield m1903a3 why? Cause 30-06 baby or if I want .308. Plenty of people making replacement custom barrels and with 30-06 I can kill anything from a human with m2 ball or a moose with a 250gr magnum load.

>>34511744

There are plenty of parts in a bolt-action that can break or fail to work. It's not just about whether it can feed or whatever. Some rifles have bad ejectors or extractors, or will explode, or have defective safeties, etc.

>>34509287
Tikka.

>>34513770
What's so great about these?

>>34513885
relatively cheap
easily shoots sub-MOA
reliable
variety of models
the only downside is the basic synthetic stocks aren't really sturdy and people opt to swap them for a better aftermarket one (but it isn't necessary)

>>34513928
>No models with a Mauser action

You would expect the Finns to know better.

>>34513947
the rifles seem to be just fine without it from my experience with them

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>>34509287
Pic very related

>>34510702
This.

I shoot regularly, consider myself a very good shot. My father, at age 68, is a fucking EXCELLENT shot and amazes me to this day; he doesn't even practice often, just years of hunting and getting the feel for his rifles. He can pick up one of mine, feel it a little, shoot a round or two, and drop a half dollar sized group at 100 yards.

I think it's a little like golf clubs. There are some low-end models that just are inherently inaccurate, and there are some that are top of the line such that the pros can maybe squeeze that extra bit of awesome out. But for the vast majority in the middle, it's the person using them that makes a LOT more difference.

Pretty sure a PGA pro could take off-the-shelf shitty clubs and beat my ass on the golf course every day no matter what gimmick I spend my money on. For the pro, it's really a matter of squeezing the last bit of potential with the best equipment. For hunting (as an example) your money is best spent on a generally decent quality rifle with a clean bore and lots of practice ammo. Spending the time to properly sight in even irons or Wal-Mart optics is a must.

>>34510685
I have two. Both have good crowns, good rifling, and are in great shape overall. I've checked the bedding and can't see any difference as far as anything to affect barrel harmonics. With one I can reliably group as well as with any other rifle I own. The other just seems to send lead in the general downrange direction with no rhyme or reason. The only gun I've ever named - I call it "crazy Ivan."

>>34514059
WHAT DO YOU KNOW?!

>All these ww2 answers

Reliable sure, but as accurate as modern rifles? No

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>>34514317
a little bit

>>34511117
>> Start counting 10 second in my head
>> Done still no bang, so its not a hangfire
you don't need to count 10 seconds more like 2 fucking minutes to be safe

>>34514176
Wow, sanity on /k/. I thought the sun wasn't going to go dark till August 21st.

>>34510727
>two highly accurate and reliable bolt actions
>take the best features of both
>slap it into a modern receiver that uses off the shelf rifle parts from a popular series of accurate rifles
whats the problem?

>>34511744
>unreliable
thats too broad of a term. there are rifles that are made of higher quality materials and better machining processes. really the only time bolt action can be unreliable is when it is broken/out of spec, or when you use shitty dangerous ammo

>>34514400
>Reliable sure, but as accurate as modern rifles? No
>implying a K31 or Swedish Mauser or Finnish Mosin isnt more accurate than modern Remshit

somebody post the image of Remington vs Tikka rifle crowns


my point is that not all modern rifles are as good quality wise as the best of the best milsurp has to offer

>>34514206
>giving a gun a male name
Fag.

>>34509303
I like you.

>>34514874

Well yeah, but the question isn't "What is a good bolt action at a reasonable price" it's "What is the most accurate and most reliable"

If it were a mosin nagant than modern militaries would use it.

>>34510685
Agreed. Dirt cheap, rugged as hell, sexy as fuck, when 7.62x54r and cosmoline are sprinkled on, nothing beats the mosin.

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Tikka T3 light stainless/synthetic .270

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>>34509287
Carcano

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>>34509287

>>34517667
thats a Remington inside an ai stock.