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Gun owners not understanding "new in box" or "new

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What is it with people on Armslist and similar gun classifieds saying their guns are "new in box," when they clearly aren't? Same with Gunbroker. It seems half the professional sellers there seem to think that "new old stock" can apply to a 10 year old gun that has been shot to shit but just happens to look fine cosmetically.

I actually bought a USP9 from a professional gun store (I've even been to this store when I lived in the state and it has always seemed legit), through their Gunbroker account, who claimed that it was "new old stock." When I got it to my FFL, I found that the barrel actually had pitting in the rifling (yes, apparently HKs get pitting in their bores naturally after a couple tens of thousands of rounds). It wasted my time and my FFL's time because I had to return it to the seller.
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Incidentally, why do so many people on gun classifieds websites take photos of their guns in holsters and/or with their fucking arm in the photo obscuring the gun?
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>>34494701
>>34494991
>>34495001
because amerimongrels are retards and they'll do whatever it takes to steal and fuck over their fellow amerimongrels. is this new or a surprise to you?
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>>34494991
Its a sign saying im white. If a darkie tries to buy this off me, i reach for the holster.
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>>34494701
Can't you file a claim with Gunbroker? Then you'll have the gun, and at least some of your money back!
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>>34495044
Gunbroker is not ebay. They can't get your money back. But I returned the gun and they gave me a full refund, so it all worked out fine for that one.
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>>34495031
Ooohhhhhh. I get it now. Fucking boomer idiots.
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Has anyone ever actually found anything good on Armslist or Gunbroker?
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If you want protection when buying from gunbroker use the escrow service option.

The buyer pays the escrow company. The seller ships the gun, tracked, the escrow company sees when the gun shows up. The buyer has 48-72 hours to accept the product or ship it back

If the buyer accepts the ecrow company send the seller the funds. If the buyer refutes, they must send the firearm back.
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>>34495367
There's a guy in Georgia selling like 15 fucking HK-91s
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>>34495367
There's some good stuff there, but the problem is it's clogged by dealers spamming their shit ten times a day, and people doing the whole "NOT AR-15 UZI GALIL AK-47 GLOCK BERETTA CZ MP5 HK91 SMITH AND WESSON" crap in the title. I got a surplus Jericho 941 off gunbroker which was pretty nice.
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>>34494701

Hello fellow utah nigger. Are you in the clearfield area?

Why wouldn't you post the whole add with all the guys info?
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>>34494991
They're holding it down in case it tries to run away.
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>>34495450
Probably stocked up waiting for the Hill dog to take president, and was going to sell them at a profit.

There's a BUNCH of that shit on ODT. Motherfuckers trying to get their money back at THEIR cost.
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>>34495367
gunbroker was nice the first few years following the housing market crash. you could pick up decent used guns for cheap. now it's mostly junk no one wants and anything desirable goes ends up with bid wars that drive up the price way too high.
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>>34495517
Because I didn't want to dox the guy. But since we're posting UGE links, if anyone in Utah wants a USP9 Compact with recent night sights for a pretty good price, I've been looking at this ad...
http://utahgunexchange.com/ads/like-new-hk-uspc-9mm-first-and-only-owner/
This is not my ad, so I make no claims about the actual condition of the gun. I've seen the ad up for a while now, at a higher price, though. I bet he'd come down to $575 at least if you worked it right, which would be a really good price for this gun.
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>>34495367
I got a pre armistice MAS 36 that just needed new wood furniture and a new rear sight since the last owner sanded the stock and dremeled the rear sight for whatever reason. I fixed both these issues with e-sarco parts and now it shoots like a dream and looks great.
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>>34495367
I got a Sig P229 in immaculate cosmetic condition (just a little silvering on the frame rails) for $365 shipped not too long ago. Since I live in Utah, the FFL transfer was only $10, so under $400 for a like new Sig out the door.
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>>34495549

nice
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>>34495367
Got an essentially new steyr m9a1 for 375 yesterday
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>>34495677
How the fuck do you get $10 FFL transfers? Cheapest I can find where I am is fucking $35.
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I got an awesome condition SIG P226 Mk25 with a threaded barrel and three Mecgar mags for $800.
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>>34495367
Whenever I check its exclusively fudd boomers overcharging for their guns. It's like they take the price on buds guns add 20 percent and then try to sell their used gun.

I just use buds and save myself the headache.
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>>34494991
>>34495001
>>34495012
Okay, this fucking weird, because I browse Armslist all the time and I never see this behavior. This must be a local thing in your area.
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>>34495030

Salty no-gunz Euro
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>>34494701

>WTS brand new Glock 19 with 1 magazine. Only shot 100 rounds. $525 I know what it's worth.

Goddamn do I hate these motherfuckers. Armslist totally ruined Interwebz guy buying.
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>>34495367
Quite a bit off both sites.

Takes some digging though.
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>>34495367
Yeah, plenty, but the cancer of Armslist is assholes listing $1 to get your attention and then has multible guns at different prices in the discription in one listing with shitty photos or like what the other guy says, a lot of the selllers are not normal folk selling or trading guns they have gotten bored with but instead brick and mortar gun shops or pawn shops spamming their regular inventory.
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Bought a 1911R1 off of armslist, pretty decent deal and happy with the gun
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>>34494991
I see it on CL all the time too. It's a easy and deniable way of saying "I'm not a nigger or spic"
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My recent cool story bros

>Have Glock brand Glock 43 with holster/mags
>Wife likes her Shield better, so decide to trade it for a Shield for same carry gun and have some extra cash kicked back
>During the recent rebate when you could buy one for $200
>Nigga messages me that he has a new Shield for trade
>Tells me that "he didn't get a discount, and bought it at full price" so he wants a straight trade
>lol no
>Messages me back a week later telling me he sold the Shield, and wants to buy my Glock.

Fucking Armslist man
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There's 6 5.45 Tula AK mags on gunbroker right now starting at $80, buy it now for $150
Is that a good deal?
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>>34495367
I live in California so we can't get a lot of new handgun models. Only ones we can buy new have to be on our approved handgun roster list, if you want a new or recent model of handgun you have to do a private party transfer. I usually look up CalGuns or Armslist and it's always LEO or new residents charging up the ass for something. This morning I saw a guy charging 800 for an LC9 and another guy charging 1250 for a VP9.

The only good buy I've ever had was a hardly used Saiga shotgun with ammo and mags for 400 last year.
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Why the fuck do people customize their guns if they think they're going to sell it someday?

>$550 for my fucked up Glock 23 gen 3 with a clipdraw on it
>Like NEW :^)

Neck yourself.
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>>34495652
CDNN or whereever has new ones for that price.
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>>34494701
LISTEN MOTHERFUCKER NEW MEANS UNTOUCHED, NEVER FIRED, NEVER LOADED, NEVER FINGER FUCKED, NEVER UNWRAPPED AND NEVER UNBOXED. THIS IS HOW RETAIL WORKS FOR BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE PLANET. FUCK YOUR FRAUD AND FALSE ADVERTISING. NEW IS NEW
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>>34495450
>2.2k a pop
Hurts me every time he reposts it
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>>34499883
Not 9mm.
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>>34499883
Find me any new USP for $600.
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>>34498697

I paint and mod guns all day long, but they're not going anywhere. Who the fuck would want my homebrew A TACS AK?

Fucking retards.
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>>34494701
>went to buy a sig 226 off gunbroker
>user claims it's new, brand new factory new and shit
>hit him up
>he says it's new it just got taken out of the box
>OK no big deal but it's actually new right?
>yup
>set a time and place to meet up
>we meet at the place he shows me the gun
>it's definitely not new, the metal has scratches and the slide has definitely scraped against the frame indicating it had been fired
>wtf dude you said it was new
>you asked if it was new you didn't ask if it was used
>get back in my car
>no no no wait! I'll take 50 off!
>put it in drive
>100!
>drive off
FUCKING GUNBROKER
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>>34495570
I've gotten so many fantastic deals on ODT though just by being cool and honest with people and having a high positive feedback score.

Picked up a CZ 527 Russian yesterday that was actually New In Box (like I had to break the sticker to get it out) for $550 with a sealed set of CZ rings. Guy was cool as hell and said he just bought the wrong one by accident and his loss was my gain.
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>>34495570
>Probably stocked up waiting for the Hill dog to take president, and was going to sell them at a profit.
You aren't going to sell pre-ban rifles at more of a premium. They're already pre-ban.
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>>34495549
>My husband recieved this gun as a gift and only used it once at a gun range
IS THAT BITCH TRYING TO HOCK HER HUSBAND'S GUNS?
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>>34500098
Well Nice.

I know i've gotten some good deals myself.

I got a Savage 10P with the heavy bolt, heavy barrel and threaded barrel, with a PA ACCS, the picatiny rails, the rings, and a fucking bipod, for 725.

I've gotten some decent handgun deals too, but I mostly trade.
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>>34500207
Holy shit. That's awesome. I need to sell my Savage 10FM Sierra since I didn't trade for the CZ and I try not to have too many guns that fill the same niche.

I think going from .308 to 7.62x39 will make whitetail hunting more fun though so it'll be worth it. It really isn't sporting to blast them at 150 yards with an overkill round like .308 or .270 the way people do here.
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>>34495367
Yeah. I bought an IJ-70AH (look it up) for 350 from a local. A while later I bought an all-matching scoped M48 from the same guy for 450.
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>>34495367
The fuck is this shit
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>>34500226
>going from 308 to AK ammo

I mean you could've went 30-30 and gotten a better grain spread for rounds

>>34500035
>you asked if it was new you didn't ask if it was used

One would think that if it's new..it's not..used.

Jesus christ.
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>>34495549
>$300
nigger I would drive across the country for that
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>>34497275
Mayne, you gotta take what you hear online with a grain of salt. I always hear about $350 ar builds, $200 police glock tradeins, and lots more seriously under priced stuff from guys online, but I've never seen it myself. It's either guys trying to one up you, or some kind of sales tactic or something, but cheapest ffl I've ever found was also $35.
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>>34497275
I have a friend who runs a garage FFL who does transfers to me for free or $5 if he's out of beer.
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>>34495450
Probably Dugan fucking with us
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Part of it is for filter manipulation. Personally I filter out dealer listings when looking for certain things because they add 10,000 results to every search. People that list items as new that are used are just hurting themselves and are too dumb to respond to.
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>>34499953
I wanted to ask but I was certain I didn't want to know.
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>>34495367
Got a Uberti SAA .44 mag for $300 from gunbroker. Did I do good?
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>>34500135
He's likely dead
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>>34500035
>You asked if it was new you didn't ask if it was used
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>>34500305
You don't need 10 different types of bullet weights to kill a deer
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>>34500970
I work 12 hour days. I have a 24/7 loop stream of KotH on my phone or laptop when there's nothing going on. I've watched so much in the last week or so that my inner voice sounds like Hank now. It stops me sleeping. 7pm-7am tonight I'll be watching more
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>>34495031
It IS a sign that your white, but it's more of a reassurance to the buyer that he won't get fucked over when meeting up to purchase

>actually pretty smart
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>>34500511
THIS

Check your local gun forums there's always a reputable guy who does transfers for 10-15. If a lot of forum members with many posts under the belt have reviewed him positively go for it
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>>34501055
Please provide link

>Thanks
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>>34495570

You always have some cool shit but I'm on the Alabama side of the State and hate driving to Sherman's Villa.

Funny thing about ODT is if I list something at a good price, it won't sell, and then I put it on Gunbroker and usually get more than what i was asking on ODT.

>>34495649

I still get nice stuff. Just gotta know what to look for. Got two S&W shotguns for $49.99+shipping. One's a rare Marine/Trench parts gun, the other appears to have everything but the stock. Trigger assemblies usually sell for 75-100 on eBay by themselves.

Also grabbed a Carcano for $40 recently. Fucker is even accuracy marked. Needs bolt parts but I have them somewhere, or if not, I know a mail-order company that has complete bolts for $40 right now.
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>>34500511

My plan is to get one next year. It's not a difficult process (looks easier than what I went through to get my business licenses) but I need to get some more money saved up and get me a separate building for everything. Thinking about just getting a manufacturing license and doing some double barrel .45LC/.410 pistols in the style of the old double barrel shotguns. But there's a bunch of shit involved with getting the 07 from what I've read.
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>>34495570
>SweetSoulBro ain't dead
I'm glad, I thought something bad had happened to you.
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>>34495030
How's it feel to be your politicians bottom bitch and not be allowed gun and carry rights subject?
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>>34494701
Caveat emptor
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>>34501113
Well all episodes are online but on works wifi I'm not streaming illegal websites.

On YouTube there's about 5 channels ran by the same guy. Each stream has different episodes on a loop. Just search king of the hill episodes and you'll get loads of results.

I have some old links, they may still be live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6tu50NQ0z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vA7lVHIhns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpmSVxW_ZGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwBmdckLKas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfIU-GDFS4
If not just search on YouTube. You will find them
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>>34498697
This shit. I decided my M&P40 was not going anywhere the moment I put talon grips on it and painted the sight. I can't even imagine trying to sell it like that, missing some of the plastic junk that came with it, let alone if I painted my little domestic terrorist package on the slide.
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>>34499953
>>34500847
probably PTR and not real HK
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>>34497326
Its for scale I think, like putting a banana next to something so people know how big it is. Hands are a dumb way to scale, but it does have the added benefit of saying you're white without actually saying it.
>inb4 wtf why a banana?
Bananas are pretty uniformly the same size, and everyone knows about how big they are. A baseball works well too.
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>>34501346
What is ODT?
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>>34502063
google ODT guns
Jesus christ
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>>34502103
I googled odt earlier but not guns -.- thanks
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>>34497275
>>34500486
>they still pay money for transfers

He's right though. Utahns buying guns online have a lot of choices. There are several places locally that do $10 and $15 transfers. There are also a few places that do FFL transfers for $0.
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>>34501441
SSB never went anywhere. It's McNiggerator who is MIA.
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>>34500486

For the deals, you gotta keep your eyes out. Try gundeals.net and you can really find deals.

The $350 ARs is very easy if you wait for sales.
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>>34500135
>once at a shoot range
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>>34503074
>gundeals.net

I think you meant https://gun.deals
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>>34503074
There's a site right now selling basic bitch uppers for $50. With a basic lower that's a sub $200 AR
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>>34504079
>>There's a site right now selling basic bitch uppers for $50.
Surely not an assembled, barreled upper...?
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>>34500276
A heavily customized Glock that's been the darling of /k/ gore threads for years now.
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>>34501055
It seems like there's been a weird upswing in the number of people running illicit 24/7 king of the hill streams on youtube and I love it.
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>>34502526

Keeping a low profile I'm sure. He didn't get arrested among the Bundy guys but they probably ain't too happy with him.
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>>34495549
Am I fucking retarded of is that magazine put in the wrong way
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>>34495367
I bought an FN FAL for 600 bucks

Also got a .300AAC AR pistol with a Trijicon RX34 for 650, sold the pistol for 650 and kept the red dot

ALSO got an SR1911 for 365

So, I've gotten some good deals, but there's a lot of bullshit mixed in
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>>34504809
You're fucking retarded.
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>>34504861
Ok good just wanted to make sure I was still retarded
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>>34495031
>this.
I was going to meet up to see some item, I forget what it was, and I saw in a reflection that it was a negro. Nope and 360'ed right back into my chair
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>>34495367
I bought a nice 10/22 tactical with 3 25's and a 50 rd drum, plus 1300 rds of ammo for like.. 350 I think?. Shit was brand new, came with a decent scope and bipod and was overall a good buy.
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