/ARG/ - AR General

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Thanks for the new thread manon

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I'm excited to eat my weekly steak.

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>>34482251

Don't tell Vortex, but I got an ACOG for my 300 BLK SBR.

>>34482307
That's cool as fuck

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Thinking about getting the geissele meme bolt catch and then with my G2X in a ring mount I think I will be pretty satisfied with my rifle for a while

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>>34482307
is that a bullet laying on top of your scope?

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>>34482323

>>34482323

>not sure if serious

No, it's an amber fiber optic rod

>>34482317
>G2X in a ring mount
>ALG rail
Stop being so poor

>>34482307
Thats nice but you have a neutered mag inside that thing.

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>>34482349

>neutered mag

Explain.

I keep 20 round mags as my primary in most of my rifles. They're more compact so they fit in my safe and gun bags better.

Also, in the case of an SBR, I prefer them. I want a small, light, compact weapon--that's why I got the tax stamp. I don't want to ruin all that with an extra long 3 round mag. A 20 round mag is about flush with an AR's pistol grip.

>and 20 rounds is a lot of hate.

I still have dozens of high/standard capacity magazines for range use.

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>>34482251
>SBR Edition

That just hurts me. Been thinking about making my first trip into NFA land. But it sounds like a pain in the ass. Plus with SB and some of the other braces it makes it even less enticing.

However I'm probably still going to do it. I feel like I should at least have one sbr lower.

>>34482380

Find a store with a silencer shop kiosk, they make it very painless. They'll take your picture and fingerprints right there, and file all the paperwork too.

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>>34482374
On SBRs I think the 20s, specifically the USGI 20s look the best aesthetically

>>34482387
So you can do sbr stamps as well on them? I just assumed it only did suppressor stamps

Also with the 41F stuff should I even bother with a trust? Should I just do individual?

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>>34482390

I like GI mags with standard furniture, but if a rifle is already decked out in magpul, I think a pmag looks better keeping the aesthetic constant.

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>>34482344
I can't its a disease :^

>>34482380
Go to your local pd and get your prints, take the pics yourself, and mail paperwork. Not hard.

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>>34482251
tfw no acog

>>34482398

Yeah, they JUST rolled out a feature where they file Form 1s for you.

I saw it on TGC news about a week ago.

>41F

Trusts are still the way to go, even if they are less ideal now.

The kiosk has canned trusts you can purchase as well when you do all the other stuff: fingerprints, picture, etc.

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>>34482409
and fucking up the pic. nice.

>>34482413
Can I easily add someone later to the trust? If so, do you know what the process is?

To my understanding the biggest thing is that when you die it's easy to deal with NFA items on a trust with other since they can just take possession.

What other benefits are there?

Pretty new to this stuff so trying to learn.

>>34482428

>Can I easily add someone later to the trust? If so, do you know what the process is?

You have to make an amendment, but it'll be a separate PDF and can make things a little more complicated.

It's not impossible though.

>Trust benefits

It makes it so that you have shared ownership.

Technically, if I left an NFA item out of my safe and left the house, and my wife wasn't on the trust, she'd be committing a felony of constructive possession.

In my trust, which was pre-41F, most of my family are co-trustees (without ownership rights). That allowed them to possess the items at any time or place, without needing me nearby.

That is still possible now, but you'd have to get a passport photo and fingerprint from all those people too, which is simply unfeasible in my case.

>>34482374
Just poking fun, I agree they are easier to store, I even used 20 round mags for a while at first, I just realized easy storage for a gun took a back seat to me personally, mine is used more for a home defense firearm, so mine sits out next to my bed at night and I just tend to prefer a 30 round mag for more ammo in case something goes down.

I totally understand the arguments for a 20 round though. Better weight, size and such.

slowest /ARG/ ever

>>34482307
>green

>>34482734
Yep ever since our nigga burt died its been slow

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>>34482734
true that

>>34482753
Pouring out a rockstar for my fallen homie rn

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Went to LGS to find a light that didnt look like poop on the Mk23
Streamlight looked if anything worse
Inforce looked pretty nice, but the mount and trigger guard prevented the paddles from depressed, so it was just a weight.

Might have to nut up and get a correct light for it, or say fuck it and get a masterfire compatible surefire.

>>34482748

Amber.

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>>34482815

buy my Surefire. It's got a Malkoff m61 LED driver in it

>>34482839
Why the pube texturing molded into the pistol grip?

>>34482839
What's the barrel length?

What rail/rail length? Looks really good

>>34482251

What's the scope on the right? Do you like it?

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>>34482839
This rifle is like mine but better and it makes me a -touch- insecure

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>>34482854
bcm copied hk right down to the pubes, although there are rumors they used paul's pubes as a model

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>>34482854
Looks more like quinoa IMO but this pube grip is comfy

>>34482869
14.5" barrel with 13" MK8. Thanks man

>>34482882
Thanks, I like the quad rail on yours. Also I need to replace my Accupower with a 1-6

>>34482901
The trij variable is a great call, with essentially the best mount out there

>>34482815
LAM or bust
>>34482819
Ew. Worst color. Who gave you that idea?

>>34482911
Amber is apparently better for night ops.

>>34482910
I like it a lot but I just wish it had more magnification is all. Thinking of getting a Kahles 1-6 or Leupold MK6

Any magpul sales going on right now? Just missed Midways

>>34482923
I agree, 1-6 accupoint would be my choice. Mine may end up with a NF 2.5-10x is I end up caring enough.

>>34482911

>Who gave you that idea?

It was for sale at a price I couldn't say no to.

It's not like it's unusable. If I had my druthers though, I'd have it in red, just for consistency's sake.

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>>34482911
AFAIK they are unobtanium, and at least $1000 when you can find them for the most basic bitch of the MK23 lights.

They would provide maximum shitposting material though.

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>>34482954

uguuuu~

Left my trip off, posting in another board.

What's the best way to get a stuck barrel nut off? Blow torch? Get more stronger?

>>34483084
Hammer

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>>34483084
multi point wrench, heat, and a breaker bar

What's the most AESTHETIC muzzle device

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>SBR Edition

But I'm in Illinois. Fucking state bullshit. All I want are SBRs and suppressors. I need to get my 03 C&R, yeah, but still can't suppressors.

>>34483167

I like the look of Smith Vortex FHs, but I wouldn't use one personally.

Also, the regular bird cage A2 looks great imo. The only reason I'd ever swap one is for suppressor compatibility.

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>>34483208

I thought IL was getting better? Didn't they just get something recently? Maybe CHP or suppressors?

>>34483221
In the last few years we've gotten SBRs with an 03 FFL and concealed carry maybe 5 years back. There is a bill going through the senate for suppressors but it'll never pass.

>>34483167
a2

>>34483167
Aeroknox Ae 01

>>34483167
Suppressor

>>34483167
I really like my Silencerco Saker Trifecta flash hiders, but Lantac Dragons and the classic PWS flashcomps are great looking in my opinion. Surefires look good too.

As a Canuckistani, is there really a point of even having an AR on a hypothetical wish list? All I could legally do with it would be transport it under lock and key to a shooting range.

I live north enough that with an hour's drive, I could be out in the highlands to set up my own targets just to plink.

>>34483383
You should have American citizenship on your wishlist first

>>34482831
What do you want for it?

I need one for a block 1. Is that m96x or whatever

>>34482883
That grip looks 10x better than bcm

>>34483167
Surefire

>>34483421

send me an e-mail:

[email protected]

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hey anyone wanna buy an LMT stock or FDE surefire warden (used once, never dropped) let me know.
stock $100
warden $100
+shipping
[email protected]

i need fun money for gangster shit

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SBR

>>34483450
$70 for stock?

>>34483511
Thats shipped

>>34483524
>>34483511
id rather keep it then.

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Form 1'd PSA lower. No ragrets.

School me on budget ARs /arg/.

I've seen Del-tons and DPMS locally for $399.

I've also seen Anderson stripped lowers for $70. Those plus a PSA rifle kit put me at about $405.

>>34483084
Stomp the wrench with your foot. Sometimes they are really fucking on there if they don't use grease.

>>34483622
The most budget one should get is a 6920. Trust me. For your own good. If you want a rail, AC 15 then add it.

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>>34483432
I dig it

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>>34483598

>Form 1'd PSA lower

I have 5 PSA lowers on my trust. No regerts.

>>34483622
I've had a Delton upper and a PSA. Stay away from DPMS for the love of god. The others you said are fine for starter ARs. If you have a little extra cash Aero makes a good complete rifle in a pretty competitive price point

>>34483643
Looks weird on an AR.

>>34483647
How do you like that PSA Glock setup? Thinking about getting one instead of going whole hog on a Zenith MP5 clone, or a Scorpion. Or a Vector.

>>34482839

What nuts did you use to attach the panels with?

>>34483673
It's for an AR...

>>34483699
HK is fairly different. But maybe with your Bubba thick gums rail it'll look okay like a space gat.

Nother noob question:
Just how useful/used/needed is a forward assist?

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Shit you guys make me want an SBR.

>>34483598
Can I send in 1 form for multiple lowers or do they have to be seperate?

>>34483741
separate

>>34483643
How's it feel

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>>34482251
>SBR Edition
y u do dis 2 me

almost 10 months

>>34482251
what handguards?

>>34483778
Pubey

>>34483450
>already selling the warden

>>34483751
Goddamn the government is worthless

>>34483830
makes sense to me. have you read the form?

WELL MY WIFE'S WATER JUST BROKE

SEE YOU GUYS IN A DAY OR 2

>>34483866
name it pobo

>>34483866
If repeating digits you're gonna name it Rob

>>34483866
Name it giddy

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>>34483866
odd number and it comes out black

>>34483866
Drink it

>>34483888
>>34483866
HI ROB

>>34483905
Yo, I've got someone offering to sell a complete UMP45 parts kit with rear stub for 1200. How hard is it to get just a receiver for one them? He's also got UMP9 kits which sound interesting too desu

>>34483907
rekt

>>34483917
How much for the 9 kits

>>34483917
>. How hard is it to get just a receiver for one them?
You need a USC to convert, both the G36 and UMP use polymer receivers with embedded metal rails. As such you cant really convert an auto g36 or ump to semi without some complex shit

>>34483928
Nvm I'm retarded, they're UMP40 kits, I mixed the reading together on my phone with his mention of USP9s

>>34483929
Shit so I'd still have to buy a USC. Still doesn't sound bad for all the parts tho if he has the short barrel and what not

>>34483944
>Shit so I'd still have to buy a USC. Still doesn't sound bad for all the parts tho if he has the short barrel and what not
Depends on condition $1200 for a 45 should be unissued or close to it.

You should really ensure you have a USC first

BA makes a 14" carbine gas barrel

>>34483959
I'm not buying anything till I get a new car, but he's been bumping his ad forever so I'm pretty sure he's just sitting on a bunch of parts

>>34483967
The kits arent that rare
>>34483966
Do it so I can hear you complain about them being inaccurate

>>34483976
I'll have to look around for em more then, only other place I've seen a meaningful amount of parts was hkparts but it looks more expensive to get it all from them

>>34483976
>buy ba barrel
>4moa with xm193
>try to return
>tell me 10rd groups void the warranty

>>34484003
They are department demils and those are always in good supply
>>34484008
>buy ba barrel
>dremel it
>5moa with m193
>try to return it
>they put you on hold for a year

>>34483976
They are inaccurate mine can only do 2.5 MOA

>>34484015
carbine gas means i don't need to drill out the port

>>34484008
3 shot groups with match ammo is the guarantee iirc.

>>34484017
you can only do*

>>34484015
US demils or foreign ones? I didn't realize the US had put any meaningful numbers of them into service

>>34484041
i can do that now, 3rds is nothing.

>>34484054
well that's what they guarantee. no mass produced barrel manufacturer will guarantee a 10 round sub moa group.

>>34484068
i just want sub 3moa, 10rd groups with standard ammo.
is that too much to ask?

>>34483866
Congrats bro!! Get ready to be exhausted forever

>>34484077
10 round groups are fucking autistic

>>34484044
Nope it was the barrel

>>34484098
no, 3-5rd groups are autistic.
10rd groups are honest

>>34484098
>not shooting 30 round groups

>>34484077
consistently? yeah probably too much to ask. buy a custom barrel and try

>>34484099
no

>>34484111
>custom barrel
i need a qpq or chrome lined, custom are all uncoated and that's no good for my use.

>>34484046
US Demils most likely, since the barrels wouldnt be imported if they were overseas. Lots of departments have them and also bought into g36 rifles. Now the old mp5s, m1 super 90s, umps and g36s are being replaced in favor of AR platforms because they are cheap and a super simple battery of arms (also because free DOD rifles)
>>34484106
>not shooting 400 round groups
>>34484022
You will dremel it anyway

>>34484105
10 rounds are excessive and obsessive, hallmarks of autism. Do fives and be satisfied.

>>34484111
Yes

>>34484132
>>34484046
I didnt finish that thought but;

Since they are being replace there have been a steady stream of g36, ump and mp5 parts onto the market in the form of kits (because auto). The M1 super 90 SBS are flooding gunbroker right now and you can get one for $500-$800 with a surefire handguard.

>>34484132
>400 round groups
that's what i wanted to do, shoot 10rds at the same target every week and see what the end result is

>>34484136
>Do fives and be satisfied.
and what happens when i fire a 6th round?
if it can do 5 under 3moa, it should do 50 under 3moa if the temperatures are the same

>>34484132
>>34484145
Neat, hopefully I can pick up a USC after I put in a receiver order from 74uLLC then, I'll have a fuckton of time to do it with his turnaround times. M1 sounds tempting too

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>>34484158
AUTISM
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>>34483698
Mlok nuts (with the short set of screws) sold by Magpul, and a #8 stainless steel washer painted black

>>34484189
>claim gun shoots 3moa
>6th shot takes it to 3.5moa
well, clearly that gun doesn't shoot 3moa now does it.

>>34484214
You need to take a stats class dude

>>34484225
He's sorta got a point but he keeps failing to make it

>>34484214
https://www.ncsu.edu/labwrite/Experimental%20Design/accuracyprecision.htm

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got this in the mail. what get now?

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>>34484404
S L A V
L A V
A V
V

>>34484413
no get out

>>34484413
Vikhr is love
Vikhr is life

Best 9x39

Two stupid questions:

The dust cover retaining pin on my MUR comes out under recoil. Is there any way I could fix this?

Somewhat related, is it possible to buy just the sell deflector, without buying a whole receiver, and swapping it our myself? It seems pretty stupid to have something called "modular" only to not sell the parts that are modular.

>>34484423
I know deep down you want a taste of the other side

You should get one of those cowboy belts and a holster tho

>>34484445
>ywn buy a legally imported 9x39 rifle
Feels bad

>>34484457
you talking about the cclip? are you sure you have it on all the way?

>>34484478
The MUR (at least the version I have) doesn't use a c-clip. It's held in by spring tension.

>>34484514
is this factory or have you changed stuff before?

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>>34484514
Are you sure it is supposed to not have it, or is it just not installed?

spikes tactical upper and lower have the features I want but they seem really tacticool
I dont want to be accused of being tacticool :(

>>34484607
Just buy it and quit being a faggot.

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All i want is a barrel that consistently puts all rounds(same ammo) in a 3" hole at 100m with bulk ammo.
also, corrosion resistant

>>34484242
i didn't use either of those words so go fuck yourself

>>34484629
Have you tried BA or FN?

>>34484567
Factory

>>34484569
To my knowledge, it never had one, and forward assist variant at least seems like it would be nigh impossible to actually attach a c-clip.

This isn't my video, but this is how mine is set up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJakEe00AGU

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>>34484669
noveske is FN and i've tried BA

>>34484629
Get a quality tube chambered, put 50 rounds through it, clean, pull the extension, send out for qpq, reassemble. Just like AMU does it.

>>34484617
okay
wanna kiss tho?

What's a good starter AR15? Only been carrying about 2 years, have a shotgun for home defense as well. Wanted an sbr.

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>>34484722
i also want it off the shelf and under $400 with carbine gas and if possible, dimpled

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>>34482251
What kind of spray paint do you use to paint a rifle?

>>34484708
Ohhhh, I just realized you wanted to do it with something like xm193. That'll probably never happen.

>>34484744
>That'll probably never happen
gay

>barrel autism discussion
So did I fuck up by getting a BA barrel? I don't expect sub 1MOA 10 round groups, but I want my rifle to shoot about as accurately as I can aim it

>>34484755
No they are fine barrels, giddy manages to shoot 5-10moa out of every barrel he ends up with.

>>34484755
You'll do good. My SPR was nice

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>>34484743
I use Aervoe, but regular ass krylon will work too

>>34484751
Just saying man. It's not the barrels fault. It's the ammo. I'd think MOM would be good enough for bulk?

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>>34484404
Build an AR10, or a bfs build.

>>34484077
>>34484068
Yes with 10 rounds I think heat and stringing might actually start to be an issue AFAIK.

>>34483866
Congrats man.

>>34483731
Can we make you want to sell your rifle? Or at least get the gas block under the rail?

>>34483598
Take off the Troy rail covers. get a nicer PRO mount. Replace rear MBUS with something metal. Decent rifle. SBR PSA isn't that big of a deal.

Someone buy my P226 Extreme. I want a Glock.

>>34484764
>>34484770
Good, I didn't want /arg/ to meme me into a bad decision
I did manage to track down a MK14 to put on it, should be here Monday with a BCM autism charging handle, then all I'll need to procure is a muzzle device and a stock. I'm thinking SilencerCo ASR or BCM Comp, and Magpul STR

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>>34483866

grats

you'll never sleep again

>>34484755
BA makes great barrels

>shoots 10 3rd groups
>one happens to be ~1moa
>muh barrel is moa
stop this

>>34484794
Hahaha, that's basically what I said.

Prepare to be exhausted from this point forward. There's no escape either. Nothing you can do about it.

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>>34484801
>keep heating up barrel
>"why do my groups keep opening up????"

>>34484814
barrels don't get that hot after 10rds, even with a can

>>34484808
>Nothing you can do about it.
he can skip town

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>>34484743
Rustoleum

>"muh groupz i need 1 moa!"
>5.56 gun
I will never understand this

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>>34484891
Spoiled children desu

>>34484891
i'm asking for 3moa

>>34484787
>bfs build.
(((they))) wont ship to WA. could probably buy one on ebay or something.

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>>34484907
Or good shooters

>>34484914
WA wont let you have machinegun parts without legally owning a MG. Their definition of MG is wide enough to include a BFS. Plenty of resellers will have them. If its enough of an issue ill throw one in a box 4u

>Low order qty dlr is $299

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>>34484928
>Their definition of MG is wide enough to include a BFS
i dont see how the states definition can include a bfs but i do understand companies not wanting to ship here.

unless something has changed last i read it.

>If its enough of an issue ill throw one in a box 4u
thanks senpai ill let you know if i ever want one

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>>34484924
>5rd
>.75moa
>handloads

>or any other mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot

does the depressing count as a the same press?

>>34484953
Depressing is a half-A press

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>>34482251
if for example, i bought an AR in
chambered in .22 and i wanted to switch to .308 or somthing, what would i need to buy to change the caliber? thxs

>>34484953
>depressing count as a the same press?
no, that's why they are different words

>>34484968
a new rifle

>>34484968
a new gun

>>34484975
so it should be gtg

>>34484985
no because you a getting two shots for one press

>>34482815
what triggers are in the glocks

>>34485003
its 1 shot on the press and 1 on the depress, thats two different actions.

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>>34484859
Oooh that looks like a decent build.

>>34484837
>barrels don't get hot even after 10rds, even with a can
sigh...you're wrong
30 rounds of 5.56 heats up this guy's barrel from 68F to 208F, that is equivalent to 293.15K to 370.92K, deltaT is 77.7K
Specific heat capacity of carbon steel is 502 Joules per kg per degree K. A DD 11.5" barrel is 0.58 kg in weight, so 77.7K temperature difference corresponds to a heat input equivalent to 23022 Joules. Assuming linearity between heat input and number of rounds fired, that means that 10 rounds corresponds to a heat input of 7674 Joules, which with a specific heat of 502 Joules per kg per degree K corresponds to the heating of a 0.58 kg DD 11.5" barrel by 26 degrees Kelvin.

This means 10 rounds brings your 293.15K 11.5" barrel to 320 degrees Kelvin.

10 rounds increases your barrels temp from 68F to 116F.

Barrels do get hot after 10 rounds.
Source for the 30 rounds equals 77.77K delta Temp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRMI7wAfdLg

>>34485012
how many presses and how many shots?

>>34485009
apex

>>34485025
1 press = 1 shot
1 depress = 1 shot

>Washington: Machine gun definition includes a firearm not requiring the trigger to be pressed for each shot. See, RCW § 9.41.010(15).

if i hold the trigger down i get 1 shot

>tfw nobody rates ARs anymore

>>34485034
>timmy has a fancy ar
>timmy has a fancy trigger
>timmy presses the trigger and depresses the trigger once
>timmy fires two shots
>how many presses did timmy do?

>>34485048
4/10

>>34485019
Actually I biffed part of the calculation. That guy uses a 16" barrel, so presumably more mass. This means for his delta T of 77.7K that came as the result of 30 rounds fired, heat input would be greater than 23022 Joules since that figure was calculated using the DD 11.5" barrel mass. Basically 10 rounds makes your gun even hotter than I originally estimated.

>>34484975
>>depressing count as a the same press?
>no

>>34485055
why am i even talking to you

>>34485072
is it possible to fire two shots with only doing one pressing action?

>>34485080
what is fa?

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>>34485009
Overwatch precision tac and dat

>>34485087
bfs according to WA

>>34484787
Got any recommendations on rail covers? Also I'm looking at the MI QD base for the PRO's. Can't bring myself to drop $165 on a larue mount.

>>34485104
i think its just their lawyers avoiding possible legal cases. ill contact a firearms lawyer and ask.

>>34484968
some caliber changes that are similiar in size to a 5.56 can be done simply and easily, some conversion kits even allow for changes DOWN from your typical 5.56.

Going up really does require a whole new gun though, your talking every part needing to be changed.

your most cost effective bet for as many calibers would be buying a 5.56 and buying a conversion kit for .22 and then a different barrel for maybe 300. blk or something like that. most other caliber "conversion kits" require at least a different bolt carrier group and barrel and at most an entirely different upper. And again, anything bigger in casing or length will seriously require a different gun.

>>34485113
if you pull the trigger once and release it and fire two shots, that's two shots for one pull.
>b-but what if i never release
well then you can have an auto sear installed but never select full auto. is that legal?

>>34485145
its two separate actions.

>is that legal?
do you have a stamp?

>>34485171
>do you have a license for that dremel

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>>34485183
kek

>>34485171
>its two separate actions.
that's just it, two shots for two actions and only one is press/pull, so two shots for one press/pull

>>34485198
the law states only about the press

>>34485216
yes, one press and two shots are possible so it's illegal.
>not understanding basic math
this is the power of common core kiddies

>>34485229
>one press and two shots
no

>>34485234
>put the selector on binary
>press trigger twice
how many shots fired?

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>>34482323

>>34485259
2 complete actions would be 4 shots.

you clearly are not reading how the law is stated. have a good night.

>>34484953
yes which is why repeating triggers are a thing

>>34485281
>2 complete actions would be 4 shots.
how many pulls for those 4 shots

Dumb question time, /arg/

Are BCG's drop-in or do they have to be fitted? I'm getting an AR that's complete but minus a BCG and charging handle.

Also, is there any consensus on the cheap BCGs from PSA and AIM and the like? It seems like the biggest corner cut is that the bolts are 9310 instead of carpenter 158, is that a deal breaker?

>>34485298
get the premium BCG from PSA, its $10 more and its HPI and MPT

>>34485298
>do they have to be fitted?
no
> 9310 instead of carpenter 158, is that a deal breaker?
no but id go for carpenter

>>34485298
drop in
most bcgs are actually made by the same suppliers and then parceled out to various stores. 9310 vs 158 is a negligible difference for 99% of people but if you must have muh milspec then go for the 158

>>34485130
damn found a g36 and a scar in cali at big 5 and wanted to convert them since both together would cost me like 1k

Why is WA so shit?

>>34485281
Giddy is trying to say that "press" means the act of pressing the trigger backwards. Since a BFS fires two shots with a single movement of the trigger to the back he is trying to argue that it would be a MG.

This is probably the reason people are ehh to ship one to WA
>>34485298
Drop in assuming you dont have some janky out of spec shit
>Also, is there any consensus on the cheap BCGs from PSA and AIM and the like?
They will probably work, will be stiff and may impact the overall lifespan of the bolt but the vast majority of people dont get to the point where they are breaking a bcg.
>>34485328
Seattle

>>34485328
It's on the west coast, and therefore populated by west coast people>>34485335

btw $40 off the taccon BFS
https://tacconusa.com/products/view.php?id=21

>>34485335
>Since a BFS fires two shots with a single movement of the trigger to the back
i thought it was 1 round on the pull (press) and 1 round on the release (depress)

>>34485335
i get what he's saying but he doesn't understand that the gov is always gonna rule in favor of themselves and that is always against the citizen.

>>34485388
what's 4 divided by 2?

>>34485388
Correct thats how it works but you are still only performing 1 true press of the trigger. The release is ambiguous under that legal definition imo
>>34485395
Well yeah thats a given
>>34485384
I like how much these have collapsed in price lol

>>34485395
>gov
this isnt the government, its fraklins interpretation of wa state law. the feds (big bad gibint) already approved this trigger or else this wouldnt even be a conversation.

>>34485412
>the feds already approved this trigger
feds or washington state?

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>>34485110
Most aesthetic quad rail covers are KAC for sure.
Pic related. As far as the mount is concerned, just wait a few weeks and save up. MI is MId tier.

>>34485401
Did you see my calculation? 10 rounds is going to heat your 10.5" barrel in excess of 50 degrees at the least.

Someone please buy P225

Posted in qtddtot, may as well post here too
Saw an AR15 at the local gun show with a heat shield in place of the handguard, what looked like an M16a1 upper, a mil-spec adjustable stock, some kind of sniper scope attached to the carrying handle, and a 90 round drum mag chambered in .223 all for $650
The seller already left by the time I came back to buy it because it was just a few minutes away from closing time when I did
Assuming it's still there tomorrow, should I pick it up? The guy said it was one of the original AR15s from the 90s
Seems like one of those deals that's too good to be true, I'm worried there's something wrong with it for it to be that cheap

>>34485431
ATF approved

>>34485405
>The release is ambiguous under that legal definition imo
thats the key part to this though and to my knowledge WA does not define what a press is.

>>34485431
the feds. WA state has not ruled on it to my knowledge. its franklin choosing not to ship here.

starting to think you're dumb here

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>>34485438
>one of the original AR15s from the 90s

>>34485438
If it's still there tomorrow take a pic and post it here, we'll be around

>>34485438
Lots of retarded fudds will value a sp1 as much as a new psa AR since they do the same shit. You should do the following
1. Look at roll mark on the lower
2. turn down the drum mag
3. turn down the scope
4. take a pic and post it here
5. ensure its an a1 and not an a2
>>34485455
Yes Please

>>34485445
Then look it up in a legal dictionary

>>34485445
>WA state has not ruled on it to my knowledge.
this is the issue.

if the fed says "A" is legal but the state says "A" is illegal, the state can prosecute.

if the state says "A" is legal but the fed says "A" is illegal, the feds can prosecute.

Franklin doesn't wnt to get fucked by a state

>>34485298
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-56-premium-hpt-mpi-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-no-logo-psa-ar15-m16-charging-handle.html

>>34485307
>>34485316
>>34485323
>>34485335
Nice, thanks /k/omrades.

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>>34485455
That's a good looking setup right there.

>>34485466
>Franklin doesn't wnt to get fucked by a state
jesus christ you're retarded.

>>34485487
risk vs reward, it's not worth it to them
>you're retarded
kettle meet pot

>>34484837
>he can skip town
paths isnt a spick like you.

>>34485449
>>34485464
>take a pic
Will do

>>34485412
>>34485506
>this isnt the government, its fraklins interpretation of wa state law.

go break another barrel

>>34485527
>its fraklins interpretation of wa state law.
yes and they don't see the risk being worth the reward.
risk being that it might actually be illegal WA.

>>34485345
But Oregon isn't shit like WA and CA

>>34485620
Portland is a micro seattle

>>34485637
portland is almost more degenerate tbf

>>34485640
Well it is more """""hip"""""" than seattle these days.

Oregon, WA, CO and Nevada are on the chopping block for gun rights

>>34485640
>not south of the mason dixon
>not degenerate
pick one tbqhwymfoaad

>>34485650
>lives in what is essentially south america
I would rather live in California than fucking Florida

>>34485662
>I would rather live in California
don't worry, CO and CA will be the same in a few short years

>>34485110
See >>34482839

KAC Covers best covers

>>34485662
>miami is all of florida
Have you ever been to Jacksonville

>>34485662
Florida mind as well be the fucking congo

>>34485637
Have you even been here? Tons of hipsters have CHLs and like to shoot

Also:
>no mag capacity restrictions
>no limits on registered NFA
>shall issue
>binary triggers are not full auto

>>34485706
I'm scared that could all change, otherwise oregon would be very high on my "list of places to flee the inevitable liberal collapse of CO"

>>34485706
only difference between wa and or are mgs

>>34485724
I'm not denying Bloomberg is trying. He has the governer and most dems on his payroll. Outside Portland and Eugene is deep red though.

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I need a good sling. Recommendations?

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Range day tomorrow to get this zeroed in. I'll finally be able to throw my rifle into some grass and take a picture that isn't my wall or carpet.

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>living outside the great lakes

>>34485744
Barry Slickers Hot Action Combat Sling

Padded is v nice

>>34485692
cant find them on their website

>>34485754
It looks like a flying dick with wings

>>34485754
>living in a lake
are you a fish or something

>>34485672
Good news is that you will always be a spic mowing lawns.
>>34485694
>entire state is a swamp
>constantly a sweaty arm pit weather
>populated by the worst people on earth
>cant into nature without dying

>>34485706
>>34485743
> Outside Portland and Eugene is deep red though.
Look at Denver, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis or literally any other state that is being sunk by libshits. They all follow this pattern.
>>34485754
>within a tank of gas from dearborn and nogs
No thanks
>>34485744
Snickers sling

>>34485754
>literally living in a lake
>swamp-ass 24/7

>>34485773
>all of the midwest is metro detroit

>>34485773
don't lash out at me because you are a pussy who can't handle a little heat and humidity

>>34485754
>>living outside the great lakes
do u shitpoast from a boat

>>34485773
>northeners keep coming to fl
>keep making it shittier
At least most of the Cubans are pretty redpilled since they still know the real dangers of communism

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>>34485754
This nigga gets it

>>34485773
I'm more worried about the dems bankrupting the state than pushing gun control. They're far more effective at passing tax hikes.

>>34485783
Every metro in midwest is detroit with a different flavor of darkie
>>34485785
Sorry im not a swarthy subcontinental bugman
>>34485790
>Cubans
OMG WTF BASED *upvotes*

>>34485799
no apology necessary

>>34485799
>OMG WTF BASED *upvotes*
wdhmbt

And at least we don't have mag bans :^

>>34485799
>Every metro in midwest is detroit with a different flavor of darkie
you just described every urban area in the world

>>34485799
Little Somaliapolis is the fucking worst.

Absolute subhuman filth

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Le based cubans

thinking of getting the PA prism scope, should i get the 3x or 5x?

>>34485841
cubans talk stupid and their coffee sucks

>>34485815
>wdhmbt
All brown people are worthless, do you really want to import the sort of people that created Giddy?
also;
>not being exempt from the mag ban
>>34485823
Have you ever been to somewhere like Cheyenne or Idaho?
>>34485824
I keep forgetting the name for the project towers downtown, heroin hiltons or something
>>34485847
3x

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>>34485824
And then there's Brainerd

2000% disgusting

>>34485853
I fully believe that
>>34485847
3x

>>34485859
>idaho
>urban areas
if you count cities that small there are white ones everywhere

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>>34485859
Crack stacks

Look, it's just like Mogadishu!

>>34485859
>do you really want to import the sort of people that created Giddy?
what's wrong with this?

>>34485841
>it doesn't matter what your ideology is if you weren't born into my very specific group of people
How big is your nose

>>34485859
>le whites only
>being fooled by the jews into racewars

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>>34485847
Just got mine last night. Easy to install and very clear glass.

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>>34485883
>the tuck pic
muh dicc

>>34485847
part 2 of this question, anyone have any experience with the PA prism scopes? i hear the eye relief is kind of low 2.5-3inches and since i want to put it on a rifle with an A2 stock, you think it'd be a problem?
>>34485889 you just replied as i was writing so (you)

>>34485889
Looks like shit

What's the reticle?

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>>34485646
>>34485646
>CO on the chopping block for gun rights
Maybe my head is in the sand, or maybe it is precisely that sort of fuddesque defeatist attitude that has resulted in the slow erosion of gun rights across the country over the past four decades.

We have to actually fight back. We should have been fighting back in '34 and '86.

>>34485110
These KAC ribbed in pic related.

>>34485917
ACSS

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>>34485888
t. Hapa
>>34485883
You are what is wrong Giddy
>>34485873
I dont see a problem
>>34485919
>We have to actually fight back
Ok bud, you get right on that and ill cover you

>>34485932
i'm a perfectly healthy adult male

>>34485861
Seriously, fuck brainerd.

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>>34485942

>>34485919
KAC panels on non-KAC rails is haram

>>34485932
t. destinedtofailauthoritarian

>>34485917
What are you talking about? Take a closer look at that scope friendo and you'll see PA has some very handsome designwork.

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>>34485962
>dont want brown people with collectivist mindset to be imported in bulk
>"Authoritarian bootlicker get out reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
The future of america is that of South Africa
>>34485951
This

>>34483866

I'M ON MOBILE

Just sitting here in the delivery room, waiting for her contractions to speed up.

>>34486005
post pics

>>34486005
Is the father there?