How do we unfuck California?
Voting doesn't matter, this place is so gerrymandered it's useless.
>>34462163
Just move out.
It's not redeemable. It'll never happen, don't get your hopes up whatsoever.
>move to purple state with good gun laws
>vote for whatever politician has the best NRA rating
It's better to focus on trying to save places like Colorado, Washington and Virginia.
Free the north.
Anyone below Placer just has to move, sorry.
>>34462175
> Washingon
> purple state
I fucking wish.
>>34462227
I don't think the gun laws are beyond saving.
>>34462163
The gerrymandering part
>Gill v. Whitford
Supreme Court just agreed to hear the case.
>>34462163
What do you expect?
California has much, much less influence on the national stage despite being a very populous state (And even having an economy larger than most entire countries), so they're going to lock their shit up and make sure they at least get their way at home.
You're gonna have to find a different state.
>>34462163
split the state in two.
>>34462163
>How do we unfuck California?
Sell your 500k walk in closet. Move to a nice 200k house in the country. Participate in town halls and city council meetings. Don't let liberals jew you out of funz again.
>>34462163
the only authority that exists is at the tip of a spear.
the govt' enforces its will with guns. perhaps you could convince those guns not to enforce that will?
become a cop and refuse to enforce criminal proglodyte laws.
or you could use violence yourself, but i do not advocate or encourage that- tho it is necessary sometimes as any judge would agree.
>>34462234
Te coast is full of California hippy transplants and antigun cucks.
And they get the majority of the votes.
>>34462331
>And they get the majority of the votes.
20%
and it's winner take all.
so just split the state in two.
>>34462163
literally nothing will save california
remember when we were happy for once during that Peruta v. County of San Diego case in which we believed that CA would become a shall issue ccw state? Yeah that ending up doing fuck all
remember when we were grumbling about the pussy ass bullet button? yeah now we got to register those as "assault weapons"
this state will fuck up gun owners until the end of its existence
self proclaimed "liberals" and "progressives" can suck a dick.
>>34462216
Sacramento will never let Roseville, Rocklin, or Auburn go. It's part of the greater Sacramento metroplex and economically dependent on Sac County. If Jefferson ever happens it will be without Placer County.
>>34462163
Don't move, cause gun control will follow you no matter which state. We got anti-gunners that move to pro-gun states and try and fuck it up, we should do the same.
Pic related is the best possible way but it will never happen, ever.
>>34462572
>literally nothing will save california
Voter IDs might do it.
>>34462163
>>34462171
>>34462256
>>34462331
>>34462572
As weird as this sounds, you don't unfuck California, at least not at first. You let them get so convoluted and out of control that the Supreme Court (or a lower court) starts to finally hear the laws. This way, not only will California get unfucked, it unfucks other states as well.
>>34462234
There are so many little stupid laws it's effectively death by 1000 papercuts. And every year you get 3 or 4 new ones proposed which do fuck all to stop crime, but aren't aggressive enough to get to the SC.
I'm not even convinced the politicians actually care about gun control, it's just easy to pass and makes them look like they are doing something
>>34462647
Possibly. The term "voter ID" is a very touchy subject for the leftists, tho. Always makes them rant about how voter ID requirements results in "muh disenfranchisement of the poor"
TINVOWOOT.
Push for it's secession setting the ground for Jefferson, Cascadia or another PNW type state. They can all ways retake it later.
>>34462728
>The term "voter ID" is a very touchy subject for the leftists, tho.
That's how you know it will work.
>>34462702
You do realize that a federal judge just basically said that California's laws are getting to the point were they are too complex. Hell this judge even claims that the state has just incrementally chipped away at the right to bear arms. Worth a read.
http://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Calif.Guns_.pdf
>>34462702
>death by 1000 papercuts
The term you are looking for is "selective enforcement". You make everything illegal through draconian regulation and legislation so that you can selectively enforce these rules and regulations against your political or ideological enemies.
>>34462917
or in the case of Leland Yee, business competition
>>34462835
So what? His well thought out and reasoned argument is going to get overturned by whatever antigun liberal judges they selectively pick from the 9th. They'll just say the second amendment allows "reasonable" regulations and the politicians in Sac will go right back to writing more and more ticky tacky feel good laws
>>34462728
>live in Kansas
>show drivers license
>vote
It's that easy, every US citizen has a driver's license......OH.
>>34463125
>sign up for EBT
>"you are required to verify your identity"
>remember that the interweb scholars say that DL is the only form of identification
>starve to death
>>34463125
dumpster tier argument
>>34463125
Cali gives drivers licenses to border jumpers.
>>34463090
Its called
>A START
Not everything happens overnight.
>>34463594
It's a fluke