AR thread /arg/ tripfag containment

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>>34457310

X300 4 lyfe nukka.

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>>34457310
>his flashlight was only $1 per lumen

>>34457310
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-prod4521.aspx
Should I get this? Or...

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>>34457325
but thats not an x300

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>>34457310

Anyone have any opinion on the MK14 rail?

>>34457352
no one has one yet so it's not cool

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>>34457310
10.3 barrel is clean, on to the 14.5

>>34457352
It's ugly. Guyslee fucked up the barrel nut area. No one fucking knows why he put two screws there when only one locks into the nut. When he unfucks it with mk14 mod 1 hopefully it'll be fine. Or you can wait for SOCOM or Merheens to decide their new rail and clone that.

>>34457310
Don't you get tired of making this same thread everyday?

If I want to make an AR thread, I post a new one, never in here. These are just played out circlejerk threads.

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>>34457395
Post your AR you fag

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>>34457310
>3x scope shipped today

Mr. Fedex man better be ready for sexual assault when he hits my block

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/arg/ and this hasn't been posted yet?

>>34457405
how new are you? do you even know who that is.

>>34457411
>M&P lower
but why

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>>34457411
I should send him another invoice

What are some /arg/ approved slings?
I don't need anything fancy, I was just going to use a piece of spare nylon webbing but decided I may as well buy something decent.

>>34457395
Obviously not. Sometimes we even make 2.

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>>34457414
You too faggot post AR

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post kool kid webms

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>>34457436
>that safety flick
Why do people do this

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I have a meme and a beam to contribute

>>34457451
looks kewl

>>34457435
I posted it in the last thread. That would have taken you all of 30 seconds to notice.

>>34457354
>>34457376
Is .5" off the diameter worthwhile, or would I just be better off buying a MK8 and selling it later if Goyssele unfucks the MK14?

>>34457473
I don't see it you'd better post again

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>>34457430
I just ordered a Vickers padded. I had an MS4 for a while. It was okay, but left some to be desired. We'll see how the Vickers pans out. I'm interested in how it works as a single point with relevant adapters.

>>34457436
>Gotta go fast
Nice man. I want a shot timer.

>>34457453
Did GT steal your build?

>>34457514
Yes, it's very upsetting, I have retained a lawyer.

>>34457430
Larry snickers padded. Comfy as fuck.

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>>34457436
Ok

What MLOK rails are /arg/ approved

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Would a fixed front sight be weird with a variable?

>>34457430
Vtac is dope

>>34457582
anything but geissele

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R8 my first evar ayyarr build.
Also, should I get a larue or bobro acog mount?

>>34457582
Anythino except midwest industries

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>tfw don't remember the 4th

>>34457609
Bobro, larue is shit and will damage your picatinny rail

>>34457609
uncircumcised/10

>>34457582
They all have flaws

>>34457607
>>34457611
>>34457625
What's the most aesthetic one then

>>34457611
>>34457625
Reminder that KAC did not follow Mlok spec when they started cutting the URX4 for mlok instead of keymod

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Tired of Magpul forend...
What's a good carbine length drop in quad rail? Also, is going free float worth it? It's a 10.5 inch barrel so it's not like I'm gonna be shooting for groups at range.

Oh and KAC is out of my price range for a gun that's just to fuck around with anyway.

>>34457628
DD MFR XS

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>>34457628
Not DD MFR XS

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>>34457202
You may have a point

>>34457417
Objectively best value
>that's why
Go suck off Daniel from DD

>>34457512
I like that billet upper.. who makes it? Nice choice of muzzle device btw, VG6 makes great shit.

>>34457628
Urx 4 but see >>34457641
Guyslee is xbox heug, heavy and trite. New mks are ugly.
Mega is too boring
SLR is too meme
Centurion is ugly
DD is not drop proof
Maybe BCM mlok will be hot new meme when it comes out.
Thinking of going back to RAS desu.

>>34457651
Why not just M4 plastic handguards?

>>34457690
>Mega is boring
If only they could lick that problem. Holy fuck is wedgelock based as fuck

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>>34457690
>Thinking of going back to RAS desu
Quads are eternal

>>34457690
>DD is not drop proof
>DD is the only one drop tested*

>>34457661
Top kek

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>>34457582

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>>34457706
Cause then the cool kids will laugh at me

>>34457690
SLR is too "meme"

SLR is best rail

>>34457716
Geissele made a video of him dropping a gun repeatedly on a cement loading dock

Optic broke but his rail and scope mount were fine

Convince me why I shouldn't do black receivers, black grip, and FDE rail and stock

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both barrels are clean, now to retest them.

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>>34457609
>>34457624
Sorry for the low image quality

>>34457724
>fags in /arg/
>cool kids

t. cheap m4 plastic shit in the mail

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>>34457690
BCM for reference
Inb4 bend

>>34457789
Because it will look like shit, wait for Gman to post to see exactly what I mean
>>34457790
Did you dremel the carbon out of them?

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>>34457451
to put the safety on
>>34457512
you should get one it's a good training tool

>>34457451
>engage distance: 5-10 feet
>this calls for a PSO
can't flame too hard tho, objectively most aesthetic scope

>>34457832
Slavshit is antiaesthetic

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>>34457411
Fuck you

>>34457425
Kysyoure'self

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>>34457852
Get an optic man

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>>34457808
Shit taste confirmed

>>34457887
Forgot trip

>>34457789
itd look alright

>>34457887
That gun looks like shit

>>34457874
What red dot is that

>>34457874
has arg deemed ergos aesthetic?

>>34457887
Okay the tripfag is right, that DOES look like shit
Mostly because that rail is so bronze, I thought Gayslee Desert Dirt was more like the optic mount's color.

>>34457907
No, but they are comfy af

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>>34457852
:^

>>34457842
Get fucked kid

>>34457832
You can use the irons under a PSO, that's what I was doing for the whole match. Very ahead of its time desu

>>34457822
ytho. I see drills of people who literally like inbetween shots almost are fucking with the safety. Seems like some larping shit

>>34457900
That's just flat out wrong bro I've seen your AR in person so I already am aware of your stunted aesthetic sensibilities

btw Botach is demanding 1k for their michigander space magic

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>>34457907
Best pistol grip made

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yes please

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>>34457908
Geissele's DDC varies. Some are orange, some are good

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I have an actual scope coming soon. Other then going to free float, anything else I really need to upgrade?

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Post Builds

Upper:
>BCM 11.5" LW barrel upper w/ KMR10
>BCM BCG
>Surefire SF3P
>Raptor FDE charging handle
>MBUS Pro BUIS
>Trijicon TR24 Accupoint w/ Amber reticle
>LDI CQBL-1
>Surefire Socom 556rc suppressor

Lower:
>Spike's Tactical spider dicks stripped lower
>CMMG Gunbuilder kit
>AR Gold Trigger
>B5 Bravo stock
>BCM Mod 3 pistol grip
>BCM buffer tube kit
>Magpul FDE polymer trigger guard

>>34457947
That looks good, but I don't really want to roll the dice on what color it will turn out when I order it

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>>34457929
Some follow the "safety is on unless you are on target" school, I don't like it, very AR-normative, even if my safety can be activated with extreme ease.

>>34457958
Cerakote

>>34457958
Pretty much all of the recent ones have been closer to the tan end of the spectrum

>>34457930
>That's just flat out wrong bro I've seen your AR in person so I already am aware of your stunted aesthetic sensibilities
lets get started
>100 shades of non matching tan (not even tasteful like FN)
>rainier arms
>the white bread of mlok rails
>the hated bufferoni grip (I cant tell because some people save shit at 1024x768)
>"the mlok grip"
>warden
>lower with integrated qd point
>no light
>full length rail with nothing on it

>>34457958
The welfare sales tend to result in off-color. I paid full price off Bill's own website and got that deep DDC

Its a little darker than Magpul FDE, probably very close to LMT Tan

>>34457962
I like the slav """safety""" school of thought. You turn it off when you leave the house and then just never touch it again
>unless you have to sit on a street corner in crimea

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>>34457808
no sir, i use a tipton 1 piece rod, nylon brushes, aluminium jag, bore guide, patches, kg12 and hoppes.

used this method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWg3B6pLrdw&list=PLF7D995C00A06212B

>>34457930
>btw Botach is demanding 1k for their michigander space magic
buy used or have msd send them rare gotes to come down on the price

>>34458014
Have you tried timing your buffer tube to eliminate any accuracy issues due to buffer harmonics?

>>34458022
Do you think Giddy is really competent enough to know how to do that?

>>34457962
>>34457998
if my rifle isnt shouldered, its on safety.

>>34458033
Hey man if he cant figure out how to time his buffer tube then he probably shouldnt be tripping

>>34458022
>>34458033
it's funny because the bullet leaves the gun before the carrier moves

>>34458022
Have you tried frigging off ya dip

>>34458042
but the resonate harmonics can still effect the carrier placement

>>34458034
>firan at da enemy
>lower rifle to move from cover to cover
>engage safety while moving
Do you actually tho?

>>34458042
How could you of all people not know

>>34458034
That's pretty much my approach

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>>34458022
this is srs business, no jokes allowed

>>34458068
Im not joking, the harmonic distortion can cause serious shifts between shots. Especially if ambient temp or humidity is higher

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>>34458050
kek

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>>34458075
i wonder if getting my barrels hot is hurting them.

>>34458078
What did you think the slip sear on the HK416 was for? HK uses it to prevent harmonic distortion issues, they time their tubes correctly for function but a properly maintained 416 will have the slip sear to aid this.

>t. HK certified armorer in 90 series, USP and 416

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>>34458085
If your buffer tube thread gap exceeds 0.12" you should stop firing the rifle before you damage the buffer harmonics irreversibly

>>34458085
Wtf grab it

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>>34458101
Do you even toasty?

>>34458078
What GPS is that on the side of the mp7?

>>34458021
Is this legit? How do I know if the kit comes with all the pieces?
http://ebay.com/itm/Pre-Owned-Knights-Armament-RAS-KAC-quad-rail-system-drop-in-carbine-length-/182646723414?hash=item2a8697d356%3Ag%3A8HwAAOSwvflZWCfj&_trkparms=pageci%253Ace4d7e9f-61fb-11e7-8c5b-74dbd180a94c%257Cparentrq%253A15f5371415d0ab640b5b50dffffa0ee2%257Ciid%253A6

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>>34458096
there's a coon that come around past midnight.
77gr subsonic should do the job.

>>34458124
Garmin 401, standard coolguy
>>34458128
I do not appreciate your attempts at racial slurs

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>>34458104
>all that brass
Fuckin diamonds

>>34458135
Thanks Ive been needing a GPS for oper8ing in my moms basement.

>>34458096
He's already fucked the gun irreversibly, might as well just let him keep going now. Maybe it'll take him out when it fails to even go into battery

>>34458144
If you dont have atleast dual tube nods and a big beard the 401 will detect this and automatically summon the nearest cool guy for night time repossession.

>>34458125
looks legit, although i thought they came with 11 panels. i wouldnt pay over 175. arfcom is where its at for RAS' tho, one just sold for $90 on there, looked brand new

>>34458159
Im getting nods soon and I got a neck beard thats pretty big.

>>34458168
I dun have email :(. Have to figure that out first.

>>34458215
use your school/internet provider email?

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>>34458056
umm.. yes?

SOPMOD stock btfo?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tVow6hbvKjo

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>>34458223
>in a rl gunfight
>put your gun into a state where it can't fire
Explain

>>34458168
You mean 11 in total? Or 11 of the small ones or there's a panel size called 11?

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>>34458256
i meant # of panels but it looks like 9 is the norm never mind my 11 nonsense

>>34458221
Not in school. I'll see if I can get ISP one. I can change the email as soon as I make the account right?
>>34458293
I see then advertised as "3x11 panels." Maybe the large ones fit over 11 slots or something?

>>34457842
leave it to /arg/ to hold the worst possible opinions

>>34458244
Why do you think everyone trains that way
it can be switched to fire in the same time it takes you to put your finger on the trigger

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>>34458244
>moving to cover
>trip
>nd into random boulder
>ricochet tears a hole in your favorite short shorts.
>mfw

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>>34458322
11 ribs on the longest panels, they'll cover one side of a carbine length rail

>>34458159
>tfw bearded coolguy will repossess my ass tonight if I buy a garmin
AMAZON CREDIT CARD GO

>>34458104
What are these mini suppressors everyone seems to have? Are they some ATF dodging thing that sits on the line to dodge forms or are they just less weight but louder?
I just don't see the point, why not a full size suppressor- although they are undoubtedly aesthetic

>>34458343
>having your finger in the trigger guard while running

>>34458337
I've literally only seen YT celebs doing it

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>>34458368

>>34458346
Alright makes sense thanks. What made you choose the Larye mount for your ACOG btw? Aren't the thumbscrews more "correct?"
Also, which reticle to get, the Marine or Army, both are M4 bdc?

>>34458375
oh, it's just a "my ears hurt" comp, looks are deceiving

>>34458394
>my ears hurt
More like pushing concussion forward instead of to the sides, so you're not rekting guys to your left or right, or kicking up a bunch of shit into your face when low to the ground

It's literally just a tube, no baffles and no db reduction

>>34458372
>Expecting nothing can ever entire your trigger guard.

>>34458420
Don't linear comps like that generally push back more and increase felt recoil and muzzle rise? It's 5.56 but it's still a concern.

>>34458427
>entire your trigger guard.
Like the whole thing?

>>34458427
What the fuck are you falling on that will ND your gun and not impale you?

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>>34457929
I toggle my safety very often, I have a 3lb trigger.

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>>34458443
A twig could catch

Won't puncture skin but will set off the gun

What's so hard about training to actuate he safety?
Or is it because it's so far away on your Slav garbage

>>34458432
Not as much as a proper comp, it's pretty open. It does reduce the effectiveness of a brake somewhat, but that's why it's removable for when you don't habe to worry about concussing your range bros face

>>34458382
you see the larue mounts pop up from time to time, thats reason enough to ditch the thumbscrew mount. RCO or ta31F would be accurate

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>>34458445
If you're really worried about ND I guess

I like your choice of ch latch tho

>>34458455
>actuate safety
>miss it for any number of reasons cause stress
>ded

>twig can catch
>landing on a twig stiff enough to actuate the trigger without just pushing out of the way or breaking
Really reachin there. And you apparently have no idea where the safety on an FAL is either

>>34458443
r u serious?

>>34458443
of all the gimmicks people champion from eclebs and "professionals" its hard to argue that engaging the safety is a bad thing.

>>34458476
>train to always operate the safety as you train with the rest of the gun
>somehow only that skill goes away in a firefight

>implying you have to actually fall to collide with bushes or *any* object

Stop curious George posting, it's not cute anymore

>>34458293
how much to people typically pay for those kits?

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>>34457628
>KAC

>>34458244
http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/published/the_weapon_safety.PDF

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>>34458495
I miss CG

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>>34458523
no.

>>34458523
See
>>34458536

Where is burt?

>>34457745
did he bang the rail on a fencepost?

New AR10 coming, PSA, can I run steel ammo or do i need to pay for brass?

Best reasonable optics in the x-12 range?

Decent cheap bipod rec?

Where do I get more mags? Always need more mags...

>>34458543
here >>34458543

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>>34457609
Nice Blazer. Solid rifle if a bit ugly.

>>34457613
Degenerate. You would have been happy with measured and paced 4 beers like myself.

>>34457688
Poorfag billet upper. Guntec. Thanks of MD. I like the Epsilon a decent bit.

>>34457726
SLR is gross.

>>34457791
Don't apologize. Just rotate, resize, and don't take cringey pictures of your gun indoors next time.

>>34457822
>>34457900
See A2, we need a timer.

>>34457907
Look good on SPRs and such IMO.

Do you guys think that M855A1 has about the same AP capabilities of M855?

>>34458495
>has never done anything but shoot at a bench with his iron sights
>"lmao nothing changes when you add in even a small amount of stress or multitasking"
It's adorable when you think you have anything relevant to add to the conversation

>>34458488
For some reasons yea, and most people doing it aren't gonna end up needing those skills for anything more than fun anyways I guess

>>34458514
>what is muzzle and trigger awareness: the pdf
The MP5 sorta works against his point too since it required an extra movement on top of just moving the safety to actually get it into a useable state

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>>34458476
you train the safety actuation into a reflex, just like with your conceal carry stuff. Under stress your body uses whatever reflex you've trained it.

>>34458550
A1 has much better pen capabilities than M855.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0gxeSpjdSk

>>34458546
No, he dropped gun on the lip of a concrete loading dock

>>34458551
See >>34458553 then kill yourself

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>>34458553
Are you talking about switching the safety off at the start of a drill?

>>34458547
To put on top of your PSA AR10?
I would do either the 1-8x or 1-6x Primary arms scope. Anything nicer will look weird.

Which one did you get?

>>34458536
>>34458540
kys you'reselves my bros

>>34458553
It's still a motion that's possible to fuck up, and something that isn't available on every rifle either. I also feel like some of it comes from new gucci 3lb trigger with 0 travel too that actually makes snagging a real threat
>also da/sa masterrace

>>34458564
Train more

>>34458575
during transitions

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>>34458548
But Im not burt you dumb spic

>>34458551
>what is muzzle and trigger awareness: the pdf
you'd think career commandos from Delta force would understand muzzle and trigger awareness, except they can still have ND's like anyone else.

And his MP5 times were adequate considering it was a literally new gun.

I already miss Burt. RIP in peace.

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>>34458561
Interesting. Not really faster, just better penetration.

I would be interested in seeing it vs a III+ plate, or even better a dyneema plate.
But that is more of a /gq/ discussion.

>>34458461
https://www.botach.com/trijicon-acog-ta31-4x32-riflescopes/
So TA31F has no horizontal lines? M4CP and M150CP have no difference?

>>34458601
His also mentions that you can't reach it with a straight thumb, implying you'd still have to shift your grip to get to it

>>34458551
>It's adorable when you think you have anything relevant to add to the conversation

and you do?

>>34458581
In all seriousness, what do you mean by a transition? When you're moving from spot to spot during a drill?

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>>34458575
yee
>>34458581
maybe if you don't train enough you can fuck it up, just don't be a retard... it may be too late for you.

>>34458646
yep

>>34458546
See >>34458235 He literally bangs it against concrete. Concrete > wood

>>34458646
Spot to spot, gun to gun

>>34458651
> >you'd think career commandos from Delta force would understand muzzle and trigger awareness, except they can still have ND's like anyone else.
Literally anyone can slip

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>>34457325

That's an M300 Mini Scout, ya dumbass

>>34458636
hardly matters considering the end results, does it? anyways this is /arg/ not /mp5g/

>>34458654
safety on when moving is really important
guess what people do when they trip with a rifle in hand?

>>34458660
>Literally anyone can slip
and that's why you use the safety, reduces the odds of fucking up in the worst way

>>34458671
Weighted odds I guess. The transitioning to handgun I didn't think of tho since the only sling I own is that shit Arsenal one

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>>34458666
nah, i have an x300u and it looks just like that but longer.

>>34458688
how is your flashlight not jet black, or at least darkened

>>34458578
>anon

kek

>>34458687
anyways put your damn safety on when moving

if you carry your gun at the low ready and wreck yourself the gun usually ends up pointing at everyone uprange and it's quite possible for someone with the safety off to clench their hand and ND into people behind them.

If you carry it at the high ready the gun usually ends up pointing forward, similar problem if you're doing squad fire and maneuver and ND into someone's back

>>34458687
I hope whoever operates with you knows what they are getting into.

>>34458734
>implying he has friends to operate except the one anon with the ALG rail

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>>34458654
>>34458651
>>34458660
So to me it makes sense to drill taking the safety off at the start of the drill, but it doesn't make much sense to me to switch the safety on and off as you're moving from spot to spot. I understand that some comps require it, but if you were actually downrange in a firefight and you were moving from spot to spot in between sending out shots, I don't really see you taking the safety off, but rather just exercising good trigger discipline.
I could be very very wrong though.

Same goes for transition to handgun during a failure, empty mag, or just practicing your transition. In the event that you actually needed to use such a skill (emergency) I don't think it would be prudent to switch the safety off. Of course the movement can be trained to be very fast.

A shot timer tells all I guess.

>>34458734
>land to operate on in soflo
Das a good meme

>>34458589
prove it

>>34458777
read >>34458712 again. i have known people who nearly caught a round cause someone doing fire and maneuver stuff fell forward, ate shit, and ND'd behind themselves.

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>>34458695
When it was on the 14.5 it blackened. The 10.3 just sandblasts it down to bare aluminum.

For serious though, I rarely shoot unsuppressed.

>>34458777
You don't safety your glock from position to position?

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>>34458796
Hmm I hear ya, but if you're practicing good trigger discipline (literally the most basic of firearm handling skills) then it shouldn't be a problem except in freak scenarios when a twig gets inside the trigger guard?

>>34458802
Decent. I scoffed at the notion. 6/10

>>34458890
>practicing good trigger discipline (literally the most basic of firearm handling skills)
people fuck this one up all the time. if you practice good trigger discipline then you're probably fine but some people can still slip that finger into the trigger guard, the whole point is to minimize risk here because under stress and while your mind is focused on moving sometimes people slip up.

anyways it's not a big deal to safe before moving. you should ingrain the idea that as you're raising your rifle to engage a threat the safety comes off, as you lower your rifle the safety comes back on.

I'm thinking of getting the PA Prism Scope, should I get the 3x or 5x?

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>even the designated thread communist can comprehend the use of training to actuate the safety because of the possibility of accidental / negligent discharges

>but the retarded Florida dwelling furry can't

I tried really hard to like orange cat too

>>34458924
3x a good. 2.5x a best

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>>34458914
This is too hard for orange cat.

I also unironically train this way with my handguns

How do I sight my AR when the only local range has steel targets?

How front heavy would a 16" gov barrel and 13.2 larue quad be? Pretty awful?

>>34458965
Its not that bad I have a gov profile 16 inch barrel and a 15 inch DD rail

>>34458957
You don't if the range is less than 100 yards

Will they let you bring your oen paper target stand?

>>34458957
put paper on the steel

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>>34458965
bretty good actually

>>34458976
They dont allow paper targets

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>>34458777
0.8-1.0 second times to raise the rifle and put 3 rounds in a 3 inch circle with the rifle slung and relaxed at 7 yards regardless of the safety. flipping my safety on vs leaving it off adds no time. it's literally as reflexive as blinking now. out in the woods if I get spooked the rifle comes, safety gets flipped off and finger rest straight by the trigger before I even know it happens.

>>34458940
2.5 a discontinued

>>34458972
The range is 100 yards

>>34458982
go to a new range

>>34458982
Sounds like a ricochet injury waiting to happen. Avoid

>>34458994
The only other range is a 3 hour drive

>>34459002
Just shoot in your backyard and hope no one hears

>>34458996
Are you retard?

>>34458978
That a gov barrel though?

>>34459013
Are you? Do you know how much damage 5.56 can do to steel?

>>34459008
I dont have one I live in an apartment

>>34459022
Yep u r retard

>>34459002
How far is the nearest state land

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>>34459014
its a midlength gas system with a gov profile

>>34459032
They dont allow guns on state land in my state

>>34459030
>I've never shot steel with a rifle: the post

>>34459037
You're almost SOL

Make a stencil and spray the steel with like 3" square or circle in the middle and bring a ruler for measuring how many clicks you need

>>34459040
I do shoot steel all the time and at 100 yards ive never had a 5.56 ricochet and hit me.

>>34459034
Okay, I might give it a try

Heavy just means I need to hit the weights right?

>>34459050
Its not my steel so I cant do that

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>>34459060
i dont find it heavy at all.

im used to a front heavy as fuck sbr

>>34459061
Well then you can't zero your gun there, find a new place to live.

I've literally never heard of a range that doesn't allow paper. Sounds like some antigunz snuck onto the management board and are trying to make the place as useless as possible.

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>>34459081
did someone say...heavy?

>>34459083
Actually they probably have steel set at whatever ranges and the range is just always hot. No wasting time with people walking down there and gigglefucking with their targets for ten minutes like jackasses wasting everyone else's time. Not an absolutely horrible idea

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>>34459092
>tested on stacked tires
>yfw it bounces back and you Neegan yourself

x1000 .223
x1000 x39
x500 .30-06

$880.80 shipped.

Why the fuck is my hobby so fucking expensive?

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>>34458914
>you should ingrain the idea that as you're raising your rifle to engage a threat the safety comes off, as you lower your rifle the safety comes back on.
Just AR things <3

>>34458983
>Waiting for MSD
lel. Okay I kinda like the idea of "gun up, safety off, gun down safety on", but what about intermediate places like high port and low ready?

>>34459109
Where is salty Anon when you want him around?

>>34458550
>>34458630
M855A1 apparently has better penetration than M80 ball.

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if your not carrying a custom hi-point as your side piece, your fuckin wrong.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/4278316/dayton-ohio-handguns-for-sale-trade--hi-point-jh-45-custom-----300-obo

>>34459195
But so does M193 since M193 pens level III steel that M80 does not. Not too surprised. You doing some research?

>>34459162
All the good hobbies are.

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>>34459162
>x39

>>34459214
ARs and AKs can live in peace.

>>34459232
That wasn't the problem tho

>>34459213
Can M193 penetrate level 3 steel plates with an 11.5" barrel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QItA83cPpS4

>>34459281
That guy's watch band is straight retarded

hey anons. i need some serious help on a new scope, im at a loss as to what i should get. illuminated retical and at least 4x. price range is 300-400. any suggestions?

>>34459325
Vortex strike eagle

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>>34459162
>x39
7.62 or 5.45?!

I'm gonna go with 7.62 because obviously a faggot.

>>34459182
I'm a big advocate of safeties on all guns but that's a bad tactic. A manual safety is not a substitute for trigger discipline, it's a mechanism that allows the gun to be carried safely in it's holster, rifle bag, in your pants, in your nightstand, under your leg while driving for quick access, etc. It makes a firearm much more versatile in that you can put it places where a gun would otherwise be dangerous to be left loaded. It also prevents glockleg when reholstering which is the biggest issue. On rifles you should pretty much only use them when it's slung on your back or if you're carrying it on patrol. If you're low ready it's because there's a threat, if there's a threat the safety should be off. Same as with a handgun, it should be off any time the gun is drawn and there's a threat. Any time your rifle is unslung and there's a threat, it's off.

Practicing good tactics is important.

>>34459370
except if you have to raise your rifle from the low ready you can easily sweep the safety off on the way up at no time cost

>>34458575

PSA Gen2 PA10 18" Midlength .308 WIN SS Lightweight 15" M-Lok ACS-L Rifle

Had thought about nikon glass, but then it might look like I was going to hunt durr. which I probably will.

>>34459281
So Highcom's 3S9 Ceramic/Polyethylene hybrid III++ plate stops M855A1, but can't stop the M80A1 EPR (New AP 7.62x51). It is 5.3lbs per 10x12" single curve, so presumably more ceramic than the 4lb poly/ceramic hybrids that are out there right now (Armour Wear) that are rated for M855 and M193.

I'm positive that M80A1 EPR will penetrate the Armour Wear III+ Hybrid plates, and I'm guessing that M855A1 EPR will as well since it is missing 1.3lbs of ceramic as compared to the High Com plate.

I'm considering just listening to A2 and buying Level IV.

Maybe I'll grab one of each plate and do the retarded thing where you put the weaker plate in the back and the Level IV up front.

M193 out of an 11.5" is probably going 2750 fps, so I would say no vs level III steel, but that is kinda a guess. Remember M855 going 2900 fps doesn't penetrate level III steel, but 3200fps M193 does, however there are a lot of variables, and obviously bullet design and material is a big factor.

>>34459370
Interesting to hear different philosophy of use. Maybe GT can clear this up for all us larping homos. OperatorAF seems to think that the safety should be used almost like trigger discipline.
I'm pretty undecided as it stands.

>>34459413
>New AP
Nah dude its enhanced performance!

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Already own a 14.5" RECCE-style AR. Big part of me wants to abandon my current setup and make something like pic related:

>KAC Lower
>BCM or Colt SOCOM Upper
>LMT SOPMOD stock
>Trijicon MRO in Scalarworks mount
>Sure M300C in TMC Mount

Should I?

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>>34459182
>>34459370
it depends, if I'm the only one then I would have the safety off if I knew a threat was 100% imminent. If I'm doing room clearing drills with my buddies the safety stays on until I raise the rifle so if I do sweep anyone or if they maneuver in front of me I don't have a hot rifle safety off pointed at my buddy. personally for me I just keep the safety on until I raise the rifle. it comes off by reflex as the rifle comes up and I don't have to worry about it.
>>34459413
it isn't a substitute for TD, it's an extra level of safety that has no encumbrance once you've developed it into a reflex. maybe not for a 90% safety and fuck heavy milspec trigger though.

>>34459422
I'm parting out a BCM socom upper, so yes I think you should

>>34459422
Why not get the half of the KAC that is actually worth spending money on?

>>34459555
Do you mean the part that embarassingly does not adhere to mlok specifications for attachment cross-section thickness because they literally just cut mlok shaped holes in their keymod rails?

>>34459418
God damn you're fucking on it. I almost thought to edit that out because you're right, it isn't actually AP. So autistic.

>>34459422
CAR/M4 style handguards are sexy...

Post picture of current AR.

>>34459441
So you keep saying safety comes off as you raise the rifle, but what about raising from low ready or high port? I mean you could take your philosophy to the extreme and only turn the safety off right before your finger goes on the trigger? I guess I'm just confused as to where you draw the line.

Also I don't like the sound of having different processes for similar training situations, the only difference being the presence of other people. The point of drilling is like you said, to make muscle memory of stuff so you can do it as reflex.

>>34459441
I just feel kinda silly flicking my safety on and off and on and off during multi movement drills. Like I said earlier, we need to ask someone who has been deployed or something.

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>>34459578
Current AR. I could always use this lower instead of a KAC but I love the classic M4 upper look

>>34459568
You can get hung up on accessory slots just to miss out on the best bolt in the AR game and a barrel that will still shoot moa 20k rounds deep. All so you can jack off to a rollmark on a lower that even if you get the "good" one still only has right side bolt release instead.

>>34459578
>we need to ask someone who has been deployed or something.
>military always knows best!
Commercial/civilian/private sector is light years ahead of military in every way but being tax burden welfare queens.

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>>34459441
Cult rumors aside, this guy can shoot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAUgfAepugc
The drill seems relevant. He is doing movements around friendlies. He not only is turning his safety on and off as he moves, but he is also training muzzle awareness. That settles it for me. Safety goes on when you're not looking down the sights.

AK fags btfo.

>>34459603
I don't care about lowers, but not even being able to adhere to a publicly available specification is pretty pathetic from a so-called no compromise for quality manufacturer.

>>34459602
You just finished your rifle! And honestly the current setup is more aesthetic IMO than the gunstruction you posted. Leave it as is, it looks god. Get a sling, and come hang out in /gq/.

>>34459609
You know what I meant. Or maybe you didn't. I just meant someone that has actually had experience.

>>34459578
>Like I said earlier, we need to ask someone who has been deployed or something.
literally paul howe except y'all apparently think you know better than a Delta operator and veteran of one of the shittiest battles possible

>>34459619
Mlok was late to the game, you dont butcher another cow to throw some new stray a bone, it gets the already gnawed on scraps from the pile.

Now that mlok has won, expect changes from everyone including kac.

>>34459618
>AK fags btfo.
>implying we aren't just shooting through civs

>>34459632
Thanks man. I'll stay with my current AR

Is it okay that I have my A2 birdcage installed without a crush washer? I screwed it on finger tight with red loctite and that thing is on so solidly it might as well be welded on but I don't know if it will hold up to the heat.

Part of me says yes because in the past I've only been able to remove red loctited parts with sustained heat from a torch and even that requires a wrench. Thoughts?

>>34459919
Heat will break down red loctite. Also, not using a crush washer could potentially result in damaged threads and even a messed up crown if you really cranked the fucker on. There's a reason crush washers are used. If you aren't seeing any odd accuracy or keyholing issues then its probably going to be okay until the loctute breaks down and the md works itself loose. When that happens, get some solvent and clean the loctite off, get a crush washer and install the fh correctly.

>>34459619
>>34459644
KAC isn't worth the pricetag in todays market, just isn't

>>34460086
Their business model isn't aging well, that's for sure

>>34460091
sr-15s are worth maybe 1500 at best right now

>>34459418
Whatever it is, they got stuff that goes through plates rated IV

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>>34459637
How am I supposed to think I'm better than someone I don't even know? The entire point of what I'm saying is a genuine notion of self aware ignorance, and a desire to find someone like the individual you're describing who would have the experience to offer sound advice on the subject?

>>34459647
I mean I love AKs and all. I've owned 4 WASRs and a Golani in my lifetime, but you can't even begin to have the sort of manual of arms conversation that we're having if you're talking about AKs.

>>34459792
It really is one of the nicer newer ones to pop up on here IMO.

>>34459919
Crush washers are $1.50... You should get one on there.

>>34460648
Link to M855A1 or M80A1 EPR defeating level IV?

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>>34458633
they have different adjustments, the 150 is sort of a do all acog while the M4 is tuned more to 14.5 specifically.

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>>34459618
that sums it up pretty well, especially the training to a high standard part. yea it may be easier to keep the safety off but why when you can train and be just as fast and use the safety.

test

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That was scary for a bit.

>>34460960
No thanks

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Reeeeeee

>>34460976
Right? I had to use the /k/ thread on /pol/. Fuckin horrible

>>34460985
My nigga you dipped

>>34460994
Kek you were getting btfo

>>34461046
>btfo by a /pol/ack who thinks submoa is milspec and 5.45 has shit terminal ballistics
I was gonna have a stroke if /k/ was down any longer

>>34460874
XM1158 is what can supposedly defeat level 4 (7.62 ADVAP).

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>>34461061
5.45 does have shit terminal ballistics though

>>34461101
You stop that

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I thought this was ded thred, then I realized it was 4chin who frigged off.

Compm2 today

Are clamped gas block better than a set screw gas block?

>>34461157
no

>>34461145
How much did you get the m2 for I cant find them under $350 :(

>>34461157
yes

>>34461157
anything clamped is garbage

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>>34461061
>/pol/ack who thinks submoa is milspec
Stop being retarded, that's not what I said.

>>34461188
That's an ugly rifle.

>>34461168
275 with what appears to be minimal wear, i still likely overpaid

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>>34461198
no u

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>>34461188
I wasn't talking about you

>>34461202
and your gear is crap. try posting on leddit, you'll fit in better.

>>34461224
Time for anon to post his stuff

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>>34461224
post AR

>>34461260
>two shit rifles
sad

>>34461260
Nice sbr but I dont like those stocks

>>34461201
Yeah they were $200 last year and they went up for some reason.

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>>34461101
rude

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>>34461266
It's not a very good stock desu :^)

>>34461269
Probably due to cloners being willing to pay more, of which I'm guilty. 275 really was pushing my own limit of acceptability. I almost just bought a PRO instead, and I'm still not sure I shouldn't have. It's essentially the same thing but with improved ACET technology and a 2 MOA dot.

>>34461280
They don't respect the tumble

>>34461280
mid length AKs are hot