So apparently Remington sucks. What .308 bolt action rifle should

>>34415077
Weatherby Mark V, or the vanguard modular.

>>34415111
Nice trips. I'm trying to find something similar to the Remington 700 sps tactical. I like the heavy barrel and want to keep it 20-22"

>>34415077
EU Here so bear in mind that most brand you won't find

from top of the line to bottom shit :
AICS
SAKO
STEYR
TIKKA
WEATHERBY
SABATTI/SALVA
UNIQUE
SAVAGE
CZ/BRNO
Parkher hale mausers
MOSSBERG
RUGER
pre cerberus remmy

>>34415128

Ruger precision rifle

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>>34415077
Tikka.

I just bought a Tikka T3x CTR in .308 and grouped 19 rounds into 1.12" at 200 yards. I almost got a Remington 700P, but holy shit am I glad I got this thing instead. Having shot both, the Tikka is light years ahead.

>>34415111
>Weatherby Mark V

Isn't that just a more expensive Howa?

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>>34415128
>I'm trying to find something similar to the Remington 700 sps tactical. I like the heavy barrel and want to keep it 20-22"

If you're price conscious:
Savage
Tikka T3 series
Ruger RPR

>>34415142
RPR is trash. I've shot two, one in 6.5 and one in 308. Both had canted foreneds, and they open up like crazy after just a couple rounds. the 6.5 was gen 1, the 308 was gen 2 with the muzzle brake. Both grouped okay, but opened up pretty quick as the barrel got hot. More so than my cheap little mossberg patriot even. I would recommend a $300 savage over the RPR. If you're looking for a chassis rifle, look at the Howa 1500 HCR

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Posted this before, but Savage 10T with a good chassis is bomb, hits 1km with hand loads and a Vortex or Sightron

>>34415144

Tikkas or "poulet tikas" (chicken tika) are known to be efficient platform here in Frogland, the only issue with them is the original plastic stock that feel cheap (at least on the 300wm I tried, better get a CZ safari for this caliber)

and the plastic mags are utter shit...
yet it seems all the manufacturers escept RUGER and AICS produces nothing but shit plastic mags

And my 600€ (with 200rnd of shitty tula) Israel rebarreled 308 DOU44 k98 mauser groups in less than a inch @100m and inch and a half at 200m with irons...

>>34415199
For any bechrest rifle, the plastic stock should be replaced with either a laminate or a chassis anyway. I have a MDT TAC21 chassis coming (hopefully) at the beginning of the week. As far as plastics go, however, at least in the CTR, it's much better feeling than junk like Savage. I'm eager to see how this will perform in a chassis though. I'm already grouping around 0.5 MOA.

The CTR has a nice steel mag that feeds like a dream. I'v heard some people have had issues with them dropping out, but that can be solved by sticking a screwdriver in the hole in the back of the mag and bending it ever so slightly so it catches better.

>>34415156
Weatherby and Howa are the same, yes. Anyone considering one of these rifles, honestly, should just get a barreled 1500 action and move from there. There's no reason to pay extra for a shitty plastic stock that you're going to replace anyway.

Anything under FN or Beretta control. In case you don't want to play "Who's holding company is it anyways?" that would be Browning, Winchester, Miroku (no longer exported to the US), Weatherby, Howa, Sako, or Tikka.

OP here. How important is heavy barrel? I don't want my groups opening up too much

>>34415270
There is no reason not to get a heavy barrel for bench rest shooting. The only reason you'd want to get a light profile barrel is if you're getting a hunting rifle that you have to carry for long periods and then take one, maybe two shots with. Anything that you're going to shoot for precision should have a heavy barrel.

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>>34415172
Has anybody else here had problems with the ruger precision rifle or just this guy?id love to have one is any of this true?

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>>34415325
Hand guards being off center is super common with the RPR. Both local gun stores have had more than a few come through the door and it seems to be about 1 in 3 have some sort of issue and get sent back to Ruger. To their credit, Ruger has fixed them every time, but you'd think they could take the time to do some QC on the front end.

>>34415111
Why?

It has like 8 fucking lugs to true up.

If OP really wants a "precision" rifle then a two-lug or three-lug design is the way to go.

Any retard with a machine shop could square up the lugs on it.

Weatherby Mark V is a gucci fudd rifle.

>>34415171
are those lugs in front of the handle spring-loaded?

>>34415325
Not I. I've got a gen1 in 6.5CM and a gen2 in 6CM. Both will shoot half MOA all day every day, even going through rounds as fast as I can aim with loaded mags on deck.

100% positive that guy is full of shit.

>>34415757
>are those lugs in front of the handle spring-loaded?

Can you be more specific as to what you're asking, or mark it on the picture? I'm not sure what you mean.

>>34415269
Beretta Holding owns Sako, which owns Tikka.

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>>34415077
Man up and buy a new production Mauser rifle!

>>34415784
He probably is full of shit. Ruger may make some shitty pistols, but their rifles arent bad at all

>>34415810
Yes, and that puts them both
>under FN or Beretta control
which is why they were listed.

>>34415841
Oh whoops misread that and thought it was "these companies are not under FN or Beretta"

>>34415784
Go head and look up some reviews. Google Ruger Precision Rifle Quality Control and you'll find a plethora of complaints.

100% positive you're trying to justify your tacticool POS to yourself. The RPR is the rifle you buy if you only took 5 minutes to research before buying.

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>>34415803
reason I ask is if there's any tweak to the back of the bolt it manifests it's self on the engagement of the lugs at the front, makes sense to grind a raised portion at the rear of the bolt to precisely fit up to the rear of the receiver

slight tweak comes from the handle, or even the fire control group pulling on the striker.

I was just imagining a roller system with a tapered "key" like on the G3, where the rearmost portion of the bolt assembly (with the handle on it) actually presses forward into the bolt assembly, extending some lugs to mate with the rear of the receiver, and locked by holding the charging handle into it's groove

it sounds complicated but in practice it would probably be nowhere near as complicated nor expensive as the locking lugs for the chamber.

could even half-ass it and have some spring loaded tapered keys or round bearings that compress at the back of the receiver there to keep the bolt from tweaking at the back. Spring pressure would hopefully ensure consistency.

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>>34415077
This shit right here

>>34415803
>>34415868
but I imagine a more traditional approach would be the precision grinding so the bolt still slides but there isn't enough slop to substantially tweak the bolt.

could utilize a very light interference fit (press fit) if you cut lugs into the back of the bolt assembly and then grind, hopefully what that bolt has going on.

>>34415299
Listen to this guy

>>34415862
The only complaints I've been able to find are
>gen 2's muzzle brake works loose after several hundred rounds
>handguards aren't properly aligned
First is user-level maintenance error and the second, while shitty, doesn't have any effect on accuracy.

>>34415868

Going to have to disappoint you there. The cut out in the bolt is merely to allow gunk to have a place to go (like the cut outs on a L1A1 bolt compared to a metric FAL) and/or to have less material contact the receiver (thus less resistance).

The inside of the rear of the receiver is perfectly round, the only thing sticking out is the bolt stop which rides in a channel in the bolt. No fancy interface or spring loading. I'd take pics for you, but there's really not much to see.

The only complexity at the rear of the bolt itself is the 3 position safety and the protruding firing pin.

>>34415967
oh well maybe light radial pressure on the back of the bolt doesn't matter as much as I thought.

>>34415919
There's been issues of barrel nuts not tightened properly, improper headpacing, and there was at least one guy who got a warped reciever. I spent probably 9 months looking into rifles before I settled on one and the RPR and the Remington 700's were the first to be ruled out. Savage was ruled out next, then mossberg, and eventually, it was between Howa and Tikka, and I'd rather support then Finns than the Japs.

>>34415077
I'd probably build a Howa system for bench shooting. Maybe look at a model 1500?

What bolt action would you recommend someone who shoots prone and with iron sights most of the time?

>>34416176
Howa 1500

>>34416176
Savage Scout.

>>34416201
I've never seen a Howa that came with iron sights.

>>34415140
>CZ/BRNO
>Parkher hale mausers

I like Mauser actions (I'm currently building a rifle on one), but I'm not sure they're the best option for benchrest. I'd rather go with a simpler push-feed, as they are easier to accurize.

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>>34416176
T3x Arctic

>>34416176
>What bolt action would you recommend someone who shoots prone and with iron sights most of the time?

Sauer 200 STR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_200_STR

>>34415077
>What .308 bolt action rifle should I get for bench rest shooting?
Buy a custom rifle.

>>34416207
I've never seen good stock iron sights.

>>34415171
Don't forget the Howa 1500