Will this even work? I bet Russia is trolling Assad. This is

Yet it will do more than the entire US coalition has

>>34383277
So basically if you manage to hit the rocket tubes and those go off, it basically becomes an instant (mission) kill? Inb4 APS will take care off all threats.

>>34383277
>Like that Tos-1 thing.
This remark ruined your otherwise perfect bait

>>34383503
the ATGMs are pretty secondary to its function. It's supposed to support tanks in urban environments by having highly traversible auto cannons while being much harder to kill than a regular IFV

>>34383277
>They should've bought Chinese.
for one time in my life, i agree with that

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p-p-please buy chinese. for the love of god

>>34384869
Watching these my initial reaction is always to ask how retarded the chinese are, but then I remember that designing a suspension is actually a pretty formidable task.

Glad we have some serious talent in the US when it comes to designing hardware.

>>34384869
That will not happen in Syria. Chinese tanks are known for reliability.

>>34383277
Russians built like ten of these things.

I doubt they ever use them in real combat situation, they can't afford to lose such expensive equipment with current economic situation.

>>34384869
looks like a RC toy tank

>>34385137
If they brought the Ka helicopters, they can afford to test out some last ditch attempt to spend the t72s.
Its not like they are spending over half their economy on the whole Syrian picnic

>>34383296
The last guy in charge wasn't trying to stop ISIS

>>34385080
>Chinese tanks are known for reliability.
Not in this timeline

We >>>/Arma3/ now

>>34385162
Yeah it looks like a cheaply built plastic piece of shit, its chinese.

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>>34383548
Wiki says they're going to make this on armata base with this gun
woah
chinese should have bought Russian instead of building more poor t72 copies.

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Don't know why they haven't got Nonas yet. A Nona/ single 23mm semi-coaxial turret would be the cheap assault gun combination, this missile approach - missiles are expensive.

>>34385229

neither is the new one or he'd be cooperating with Syria and Russia and supporting their actions via naval power.

Guess what he's doing? Shooting Syrian planes who are attempting to fight back US backed rebels who are attacking Syrian and Russian forces.

>>34385253
what's the name of this vehicle? I can't find anything with that phrase

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Seems like SAA will use anything they can get their hands on. I've seen them commandeer militant vehicles, though that may have been either Hezbollah or some allied militia.

SAA likes to use these Shilkas as anti-infantry.
How effect are these in that regard, really?

>>34385326
very

>>34385326
I mean, it's an auto cannon. I don't know much about Shilkas but I don't see why it wouldn't work out. Might not be very accurate?

>>34385317
Zauralets

>>34385346
When you fire lots of bullets, Mohammed will hide because of many bullets.

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>>34385240
>Wiki says they're going to make this on armata base with this gun
This is universal unmanned battle module. Right now plan is to use Bumerang-BM module with 30mm cannon. Basically, T-15 can do everything BMPT can, but also carry troops and be better protected.

>>34385431
> only one gun

Nice bait

>>34385442

the Russian version only has one gun. There's nothing 2 could do that 1 couldn't.

It's not 1960 anymore and twin guns is actually a net negative to accuracy when computer assisted aiming gets involved.

It's also why the majority of multi-barreled machine guns don't get mass issued now. There's just too little reason unless its purely for suppressing like a Blackhawk door gunner.

Why double/triple your rate of fire on an autocannon but ruin your accuracy at the same time for little gain?

>>34383277
>they couldn't find any buyers than forcing the Kazakhs to get them
>now they're trying to force the Syrians to get them

Holy shit just admit the entire concept is retarded already and is a solution looking for a problem. The only explanation at this point is some oligarch wants money after he was swindled into funding this terminator joke

>>34385326
>SAA likes to use these Shilkas as anti-infantry.
How effect are these in that regard, really?
It's a 4 barrel autocannon putting out 3500-4000 rounds/minute of 23mm HE and AP rounds.
It is very effective against everything not covered in armor and has an incredible effect as a area denial weapon at range.

Amerifats/Moderate shills on COMPLETE DAMAGE CONTROL MODE

>Not half as bad a failure as lockshill's continued developmental stalls and rising costs
Americans will literally shit on anything that is not a complete failure

>>34385512
Also can aim at the sky, which is quite the benefit in urban environments.

>>34385431
I was talking about 57 mm gun
>>34385530
Also shilka has radar which can automatically aim at people i learned this from ARMA 3 RHS

Are those grenade launchers on the sides?

>>34383296
Slavaboos please leave.

>>34385560
Yes.

>>34385577
>A fucking shartmerican tells me to leave my mongolic image sharing site

>>34385553
>I was talking about 57 mm gun
Right now they has plans for 30mm. 57mm is just a product that company propose to buyers. Not everything that Russian companies do propose is going to service.

>>34385569
Islamist supporter in denial.

>>34385602
>Unable to click the right post

>>34385470
>There's nothing 2 could do that 1 couldn't.
Lolwut, you don't even know some basics of the vehicle.

Each gun carries a different kind of ammo. One is HE and the other is AP, there's a video with that shit presenter where they showed it firing the guns. The gunner can only aim 1 at a time.

>>34385577
I thought the Terminator 2 dropped those.

Is this just a Terminator 2 turret fitted to the original Terminator hull?

>>34385606
>57mm is just a product that company propose to buyers. Not everything that Russian companies do propose is going to service.

I'm glad someone understands this. They already tried to show off the 57mm on a BMD and were laughed out of the building after the MoD told them the ammunition load was absurdly low.

>>34385719
They had 105 mm on BMD what's the difference

>>34385080
>Chinese tanks are known for reliability
BY WHO???

>>34385649

and at the rate they fire, it'd be better to have a single barrel firing them interchangeably like every modern nation does or via a dual feed system thats vastly more accurate and useful than 2 barrels due to it being inherently more accurate.

Double barrels are purely for nations that cannot reliably fix/produce dual feed systems and it's been that way since the late 70s.

There's literally no reason to run 2 barrels from a performance/logistics/reliability stand point.

>>34385326
I would imagine it's rather vulnerable but still effective. Judging by >>34383277 it looks like Russia tried to capture the Shilka's anti-infantry magic and give it better protection

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>>34385884

>They had 105 mm on BMD

*100mm 2A70.

>what's the difference

The 57mm gun module was designed to be non intrusive of the hull and acts like an oversized RWS instead of being a proper turret with enough space for rounds which is the case with the 100mm gun with 30mm coax auto-cannon.

>>34383277

What the hell? Terminator-1 hull with Terminator-2 turret?

>>34385283
>US backed rebels

How quaint, he calls terrorists 'rebels'.

>>34388008
>all rebels are ISIS meme
Oh boy, havent heard this one for about 5 seconds, good you posted it.

>>34383277
ASSad cant order different stuff. he is a russian puppet...

>>34388008
grawl back to novorussia, Vasily

>>34385607
HIV/AIDS infested vodka nigger, please leave.

And u thought ur tanks were easy to spot from space before..

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>>34385229

You think the new guy is?

Why is his SecDef Mattis talking about "Sunni allies" and threatening Iran, while bombing the Syrian government and shepherding ISIS towards Syria, rather than cooperating with the Russians in the extermination of ISIS and Nusra Front (aka "rebels")?

It's horse shit.

America does not have a foreign policy in Syria, they are merely the muscle for Israeli and Saudi foreign policy.

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>>34385253

>Don't know why they haven't got Nonas yet.

They did get resupplied with Nona's recently.

Russia is trying to rebuild the Syrian army into a cohesive military once again, since it has devolved into a collection of militias and gangs.

http://spioenkop.blogspot.ca/2017/06/syria-rearms-russian-deliveries-of-bmp.html

Mean machine that dominates battlefield

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdOtHUp20Pk

>>34387888
>What the hell? Terminator-1 hull with Terminator-2 turret?

The primary difference between the BMPT and BMPT-72 is whether the hull was purpose built and has the two extra crewmen with grenade launchers.

>>34385326
Never seen it used against infantry, but as a chinook driver, this fucker is like the boogie man to a 7yo. absolutely terrifying.

>>34390199
Actually we have a pretty decent, if unspoken, plan in Syria. Keep it in a state where Russia has to keep shoveling money into it when their economy really can't afford that.

>>34392117

That's just your little unqualified opinion.

You have no idea what the fuck is going on because your government conducts its actual foreign policy in secrecy due to its nefarious nature.

Ironically, Russians are more transparent.

>>34392229
That's because Russia's domestic and foreign policy mostly revolves around elaborate ways to scream, "Look at me! I'm a big, important person!"

>>34385162
probably made by the same people to be honest.

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>>34385479
>heavily armored IFV instead of a thin-skinned APC with a turret and armor-packages slapped on
>simplify logistics by sharing a hull with the most produced MBT in the world

Seems like a fine concept to me. It's no more retarded as a concept than forcing Bradleys into a hunter-role to escort Abrams tanks.

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>>34392306

You're just an idiot with no actual clue about anything, you probably don't know how your municipality operates, not to mention Russia or any other foreign actor.


Go back to playing video games and aggravating the friction burns on your dicklet with incessant cartoon porn masturbation.

>>34387888
>What the hell? Terminator-1 hull with Terminator-2 turret?
Holy shit kek, you post on russiadefence and you don't know this?
A surplus of modified T-72 hulls for BMPT were used for export. Kazakhstan did not want more, so they included the export turret so if in case Syria decides to buy more, they'll use the BMPT-72 entire package instead.

Why the domestic hull? Because it's rusting in a factory and it would have a better outcome at making them sell more export versions.

>>34388222
hes right tho

>>34385479
you're a retard. The BMPT is basically the ideal urban fighting vehicle, and there's been a shitload of urban armour use in the syrian civil war. Highly traversible auto cannons and very thick skin are what's require, and In case you hadn't noticed, Tanks can't point their guns up, and IFVs have very thin armour.

Looks like it would make great TOW-food