So I've been thinking about steel plates/body armor and

>>34377360
*it shouldn't cause too many issues

Why not just have a full suit of steel armor?

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This is generally what I'm talking about. The only problem of course is that most of the fragmentation is moving out at approximately a right angle from the point of impact, so with heavily curved plates it'd be a matter of having rolling out edges that are longer and thicker than the over all dimensions of the plate, given that the edges tend to be the areas furthest away from the curved/extruded portion of the plate.

>>34377529
because that drastically increases the cost and cost is the only thing steel has going for it

>>34377533
The spall liners already add a bunch of cost. I think people would pay an extra $50-70 per plate for a "premium" plate that doesn't castrate them.

>>34377541
>>34377533
It would also help solve the issue that steel plates have where the thin edge of the plates wear on the spall lining which helps cause these fragmentation issues in the first place. Also they don't have to be the on the sides of the plates, just the top and bottoms. Could be as simple as welding on a milder/softer/cheaper steel to the edges since it's only dealing with the fragmentation and ideally has the right geometry that helps slow down the rounds.

>>34377541
they're a cheap shit spray on coating. sometimes multilayered.
putting anything beyond that soft curve into the plate is going to add a bunch of cost.

the idiots who buy steel shit already don't give a fuck. it's like improving the quality of the garbage you can buy at dollar tree. they buy it because it's cheap garbage.

>>34377657
>being able to take dozens of hits/reuse a plate is retarded
The only retarded thing is the weight. So sorry that we can't all afford $400 a plate that has to be replaced each time we accidentally drop it. The edge thing wouldn't add a bunch of cost. They could literally take their current plates and just weld this rolled edge piece for fragmentation protection on the edges (probably just top and bottom). It could be a cheaper softer steel since all it has to deal with is secondary impacts from fragmentation.

>>34377756
>So sorry that we can't all afford $400 a plate that has to be replaced each time we accidentally drop it
So don't drop it you fucking retard. Buy a dummy, you can carry it around and practice not dropping it.
>just weld
Confirmed for fucking retarded.

>>34378233
>hurr don't ever handle something rough, that very something that you'll be wearing around while getting fucking shot at
Yeah
>confirmed for retard
Oh, because the heat treat on the edge of the plate matters SOOO much, right?

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>>34378264
>Oh, because the heat treat on the edge of the plate matters SOOO much, right?

>>34377756
>being able to take dozens of hits/reuse a plate

>>34378360
>slightly fucking up the heat treat on the edges of the plate
>somehow compromising the ability for 95% of the surface area of the plate to take multiple hits
Fucking lmao kid, you're really stretching, aren't you?

Or just buy dkx armor. Save up for it. It's level 4 rated but super light and it even floats. Steel and even ceramic armor are getting outdated.

>>34378384
>poly plates
Lol enjoy M855.

>>34378384
>plates that float
>M855 62gr passes through like butter

How big of a press would you need to roll the edges of ar500?

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>>34377756
>ceramic plates are fragile meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSK4U2Poo0k

>>34378384
>m855 goes through poly like a hotdog down a hallway
>steel and even ceramic are getting outdated

>>34378557
You don't because it would shatter before bending enough due to the nature of hardened tool steel.

>>34377472
This desu senpai

>>34378577
>one dude
>hit's it with a sledge hammer
>shoots it once with a fudd caliber, probably using a softpoint
>wow guise, that totally invalidates decades of research that has established that ceramic plates are more like to develop stress fractures from regular wear and use that can and do lead to reduced protection and in some cases catastrophic failure

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>>34378675
>Decades of research

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>>34378675
>steel plate
>get shot with m193 out of long barrel
>die
>get shot with m855a1
>die
>get shot with any AP round
>die
>get shot with .22-250
>die
>get shot with m80a1
>die

>buy ceramic plates
>can still stop a round of .338 lapua magnum after already being hit by .338 lapua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paf3VtmLZuc&t=1s

>>34378754
>shooting Lvl III rates plates
>they don't hold up to threats that they're not rated for
UH WOW, HAAH BTFO

What ceramic armor do people recommend?

>>34378795
>Lvl 3 isn't rated for 5.56 and 7.62
wdhmbt

>>34378754
855 does jack shit to level 3 steel plates

xm193 has enough velocity from a 20" barrel to penetrate steel plates within 7 yards

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>>34378795
>buy armor that costs slightly less than ceramic and weighs more and cant stop a bunch of rounds
>BUT IF YOU THROW CERAMIC PLATES OFF A BUILDING ONTO CONCRETE AND RUN THEM OVER WITH A TRUCK THEY MIGHT NOT STOP TWO .338 ROUNDS ANYMORE

>>34378834
>I cant read
>I dont know what m855a1 is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0gxeSpjdSk

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/223054.pdf
"6.2.3.3 Armor Drop Test"

Standalone Level 4 plates must resist drop testing in order to receive NIJ certification.

"muh fragile playtes" is literally a myth if you read any documentation about NIJ standards. Especially the standards for multi-hit capability.

Sorry AR500 fags, but your plates are 4x as heavy, and shoot spalling into the user's face.