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Why did the Jagdpanther have a muzzle brake? I thought the casemate

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Why did the Jagdpanther have a muzzle brake?

I thought the casemate TDs didn't need muzzle brake because the extra room in the casemate let them get away with no brake like in the JagdpanzerIVL/70 or Jadgtiger?


FUCK CAPTCHAS THEY ARE SO FUCKING BROKEN
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>>34371434
It's just for show lol
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>>34371434
The Kwk43 was a really powerful gun
Like, REALLY powerful, especially for its time
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>>34371434
because of leverage
here is why:
gun was mount rather high and to the front
it was a powerful gun = lots of recoil compared to the vehicleweight
it had a 10x optic
it had great suspension
now fire it without muzzle break
>recoil goes back to the vehicle
>gun mount creates leverage which goes on the suspension
>vehicle jerks forth and back
>you lose visual contact in your 10x optic

jagdtiger was a fat (70t), that thing just cant get puched around by the recoil
jagdpanzer4 was flat, closer to the ground, a weaker gun, a lot less leverage
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>>34371434
That's a sexy tank
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It's not THAT big, it's just a regular Panther chasis. The Jagdtiger was much bigger and didn't use a muzzle brake, despite having a massive gun.
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>>34371434
looks cooler so that fat americans on an italian CNC enthusiast board could fetishize them easier in the future
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>>34371842
It couldn't even pen a t-54 frontally.

It was garbo.
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>>34375549
did it even see combat against t-54's? im seriously asking
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>>34375611
>in service 1949

you guess
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>>34375611
Think of it this way
ww2 ended in 45. The t-54 is a 50's tank.
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>>34375629
Well, close enough to 50's.
I'm also kinda dumb
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>>34375611
no.

>>34375549
WoT pls go.
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>>34371434
Just fyi, the Jagdpanther followed the Jagdpanzer designation, not panzerjager. The easiest way to differentiate is whether or not the vehicle is fully armored (jagdpanzer) or open-topped/lightly armored (panzerjager). The exception here is the Ferdinand/Elephant, which was a Panzerjager for some reason. The Jagdpanther is also the only jagdpanzer to carry a derivative of the PaK 43 standard.
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>>34375629
To be fair, the Jagdpanther seems to have seen limited French post-war service, and StuGs and Jagdpanzer IVs served in Syria and Israel, so the question isn't THAT far fetched.
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>>34375712
I think the issue here isn't the prospect of a Jagdpanther potentially fighting a T-54; it's the idea that this hypothetical battle is somehow relevant to whether or not the Jagdpanther was a good tank destroyer (hint; it fucking was)
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>>34371434
If a vehicle isn't designed to be supporting advancing infantry, Why wouldn't it have a muzzle break? There is no other downside except danger to own infantry.
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Tank guns used cordite charges back then right?

I can imagine it would throw up a lot of smoke into your line of site unless you directed the blast sideways.

Also eases the load on the recoil mechanism I bet.
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>>34375722
Muzzle breaks significantly increase the amount of dust and debris kicked up upon firing, as the escaping gasses are channeled out over a larger area. Also (and this is totally irrelevant to the vehicle in question) they can really fuck up and kind of discarding sabot rounds.
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>>34375726
the point of muzzle brakes then was to ease the load on the recoil mec-.
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>>34375549
>It couldn't even pen a t-54 frontally.
Nothing could. First western gun able to do it was L7 appeared only in 1959. T-54 was too good.

P.S. Well Germans had 128mm but just shows how hopeless would be attempts to deal with based T-54.
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>tfw it broke down at Tankfest
I see not much has changed in 70 years.
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why is the jagdpanther considered one of the best vehicles of the war, but the panther one of the worst?

the problem stemmed from the transmission which I assume is the same?
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>>34377509
afaik the jagdpanther was built on a newer version of the panther chassis which had most problems fixed
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>>34375116
The jagdtiger weighed 70t you mong, no need for a muzzle brake when your tonk destronker weighs enough to crumble most bridges
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>>34377509
>Panther
>Worst vehicles of the war
Dude, the Panther was considered an excellent tank, other than the transmission troubles. The allies and the Russians considered the Panther to be a superior design to the superheavies based on battlefield experience and captured examples.
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>>34376052
How can 100mm at 60 degrees be that damn good?
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>>34379113
At 60 degrees thats 200 millimeters of effective armor plus a pretty good chance of ricochet.
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>>34379113
My guess is the almost 10 years worth of technological advancement and better metallurgy. It's also possible the guns where adequate but there just wasn't the right projectile around.
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>>34377813

The Jagdpanther was based on the Panther Ausf G chassis which did not suffer too many mechanical problems. It also had an upgraded transmission, the ZF AK 7-400 "heavy duty" instead of the ZF AK 7-200 which had weak final drives.
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>>34379316
WoT WE SAID LEAVE
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>>34376052
M348 not real.
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>>34371434
One of the points is to blow the smoke to the sides so it doesn't obscure the view from sighs
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>>34379316
WOT fags I thought your game died like two years ago
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>>34371434

https://youtu.be/P5x0Jlxl9uU
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>>34380564
lindybeige is a dipshit
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