i have been debating about caliber size for handguns and I thought

>>34327388
>99% of the time you wont use your gun
If you're not using your gun at least 50% of the time this board isn't for you.

>>34327388
>Not necking down 10 mm to take 22lr bullets to shoot out of a custom barrel 1911.

I live in a state that does not allow me to carry a gun on me. I can only keep it in my home or take it to a shooting range (in the car trunk unloaded) or else I get arrested which would be a good thing after seeing how a cop used Philando Castile for target practice(who had legal carry permit)

The point is since concealability does not apply to me I choose the .45 ACP meme caliber. Especially since my garbage state only lets me shoot an intruder once, if he has more than one bullet hole I can go to jail. (which is fucking stupid)

Some one please bomb my state, I don't care if I am in it.

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>>34327388
.577 is best old chap failing that something like a 44. I don't guard by precious life with anything less than something that will drop a horse made out of soft lead largely because I am I fear bound for hell and therefore loath to expire with too much ease.

>>34327388
"concealablity" is undefined
"more punch with a smaller bullet" disregards the debate of using FMJ for a weak-ass round like .380

Also, get makarov +p+ at that rate, or 9mm you fuck

>>34328711
The biggest most powerful round you can group on a torso is best. If you feared hellfire you would concur.

>>34327388
.30 Armco
>10mm necked down to .30 carbine bullets
>110gr @ 1850fps out of a 5" barrel

>>34327949
sounds like you are in marylandistan.

>>34328752
Fear not having the ability to effectively group into the chest, via movement, cover, your own adrenaline, or whatever the fuck else in a self defense situation prevents you from shooting the same groups as the controlled environment of a range, so your number of rounds matter as well as shot placement.

>>34328695
450 grains

>>34327388
Pocket 380's are great. You can ALWAYS have a gun on you. I often literally forget it's there.

>>34328774
>Fear not having the ability to effectively group into the chest, via movement, cover, your own adrenaline, or whatever the fuck else in a self defense situation prevents you from shooting the same groups as the controlled environment of a range, so your number of rounds matter as well as shot placement.

I find a how shall I say, mental distancing o yourself from the situation and a considered aim is better than scuttling about holding with two hands like a toddler with a melting ice cream but that is all the rage now. Presenting the torso directly to your opponent etc.

That is not for a rampant coward like me. No. A side profile and my brain to a safe pretty garden and a slow considered aim with a .577.

I believe it is classified as a 'destructive; device in the former colony. Indeed it is. The greatest handgun ever made for dropping a man stone dead.

>>34328868
>I often literally forget it's there.

Unwise.

>>34327949
>Philando Castile

He was a brown chap. What did he expect to happen? If he had stuck with carrying things on his head or attained a good position in a household he could b perfectly happy right now enjoying a fire in the kitchen while he polishes the fire irons.You A mericans are just encouraging the servant classes in this kind of mischief for your amusement. It is quite funny.though I do concur.

>>34328881
I believe people don't "choose," to be brave or cowardly when their natural instincts from an unexpected high pressure situation occur, you naive fuck.