Gear Queer Thread - /gq/

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first for GT's smashing looks
his coal black hair
his deep voice
his slim, yet strong body

>>34295223
You can make fun of my rig if it helps

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>>34295223
>>34295673
There is already a thread. Do more than just search "gear" next time.

>>34295703
Right I only searched
>gear
>queer
>/gq/
>/gqt/

Next time I'll just search M225

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My SHTF load out

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off to a blazing start /gq/

>>34296227
>gold deagle

h-how much did that cost?

>>34296227
So out of curiosity. What are the benefits of battle gloves? Doesn't it just make it harder to manipulate your weapon in case of a malfunction or fine motor skill tasks?

>>34296227
Needs more cigars.

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So, I'm in need of a chest rig to complete my flektarn BDU, but I'm not too sure on what rig would be good from the $20 - $60 range.

http://www.military1st.com/13530021-mil-tec-chest-rig-flecktarn.html

I was thinking this one, but again, I'm not sure if it'd be a good idea. watdo?

>>34296283
not him but your fingers can get hurt on shit like
>hot guns (really hot don't touch)
>sharp glass (don't do it)
>twisted/jagged metal shit (it's sharp nigga)

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>>34295223
Not mine, but Id love to nig-rig something like this.

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>>34296286
And better ones

>>34296342
Forgot to mention its just a drop-leg panel with straps sewn.

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>>34296252
Too much, 1600ish i think on gb
>>34296283
They just mechanix with a little rubber, real good when you use your hands alot, and were on sale and cheaper than old set to replace these after some chemicals ate them away
>>34296286
Yes i do, but ive beem smoking molte dulche outta ma pipe

>>34296333
True

>>34295223
What plates are you running?

>>34296322
What are your weapons you will be ising? And have you looked at OD gear?

What's on your battle belt?
Going to put 2 AR and 2 pistol mag pouches, dump pouch, and holster initially. Canteen? IFAK (on PC now)? Bear mace?

>>34297762
I went with Spartan AR550 with the undercoating.

I fully welcome and desire specks of metals flaying my face meat after a single shot.

>>34295361
dat bulge

Crye CPC or AVS?

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Does Rothco make good shit? I'm considering getting pick related for transporting my armor and gear to work.

>>34299969
>Does Rothco make good shit?
No, they make some of the worst stuff on the market.

>>34300032
Well that's good to know. And decent reasonably priced alternatives to that?

>>34297815
Possibly an AR-15 and a Beretta 92. Although, I'm not sure about the AR.

>>34300035
Probably an AWS parachute cargo bag
http://www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=52951

>>34300035
I use a Code Alpha XL loadout bag. It holds two plates carriers, my helmet, battle belt and two assault packs easy.

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>>34300094
forgot pic

>>34300094
That's a bit much, especially since I sometimes takes this shit on public transit.

>>34300078
I kinda need a shoulder strap.

>>34300112
Then get a duffle bag from a normie company like adidas.

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What are the pros and cons of chest regs vs plate carriers, other than the obvious weight.

I have been looking at some off warrior gear and their Chest rigs that can hold plates, would this be a good middle ground to go with or is it worth just commiting to a PC?

>>34300128
what he said

>>34300139
the problem with front plates only is the weight balance issue

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>>34300176
But you can get the back cover for their gear, whick can also hold a plate then you could run both front and back.

>>34300183
At that point, you may as well just be getting a lightweight plate carrier for extra support and comfort.

>>34300128
I meant in terms of size.

>>34300198
Doesn't that somewhat limit the space you have though?

>>34300233
Not hugely. Space is really going to be determining weight here. A rig with plates and a lot of real estate is likely going to be just as heavy as a carrier and plates.

Plus you'll always have your belt for more room.

>>34300257
Would it be reasonable to think I could put three single mag pouches, a radio, an ifak, and an admin pouch on a PC?

Does anyone have a pictures of possible layouts for this?

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>>34300289
Not him, but yes.

>>34300314
Do you have a picture of the front or list placement.

I was thinking mags bottom middle, radio left side ifak front right (maybe) and admin on top. I just want to make sure I won't have anything in the way that would impede the draw on my sidearm whick would be on my right.

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I bought another fsbe aav the other day for bbwar

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>>34300289
My ancient set up from the times of honorubru combat. I ended up moving using a flat admin pouch on the front center top, so the setup would have been exactly what you want. It worked for my purposes, although I *needed* the things in the admin pouch to be easy access. If you don't *need* the things in an admin pouch to be immediate access, I'd ditch or move it from that spot to be more ergonomic.

The radio didn't interfere at all with the pistol since it was on the front. I'm left handed, so it also didn't interfere with my weak hand getting to the mags. The IFAK on the side was a rifle mag pouch, not a purpose built IFAK, since it was the slimmest thing I could whip up quickly. Real deal medical pouch on the belt.

>>34300409
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, I'm planning on having my three mags on front, and admin above like you said, again I can take it off if I don't need it. Should my radio and ifak go on my dominant or non dominant side? On my belt I'm planning on running two more mags, two pistol mags, pistol and a second IFAK. I considered a dump pouch but I have since gone off the idea.

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>>34300384
Yeah since I have time before work I snapped a quick pic. What you described is basically my setup but without the admin pouch. The LBT6094 has integrated radio pouches.

From left to right
>SOE tear away IFAK
>SOE TQ pouch
>LBT kangaroo pouch insert
>Leatherman MUT
>Tactical Tailor multi purpose pouch

Note on SOE don't buy from them unless it's a belt. I have the stuff I have because I got it second hand from a trusted friend otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it. I'm still waiting on gear I ordered in January. You'd think it wouldn't be so hard to stitch a headband in 6 months but I guess I'm just a 'hater'.

>>34300448
Out of curiosity are you left or right handed?

>>34300474
Right, but I don't carry a pistol or pistol belt when I have my PC on.

>>34299969
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILITARY-FLYERS-KIT-BAG-ARMY-NAVY-NOT-A-CHEAP-IMPORT-VERY-HIGH-QUALITY-/351834729203?hash=item51eafbeaf3:g:x4AAAOSw8oFX0uAq


this is what you want.

>>34300494
Interesting, I guess I'll just get the stuff and then fuck around with it until I find a system that works for me while running a PC and a belt.

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About done experimenting with the pc + chest rig combo. It was a nice run, but running one extra mag on my front and having some admin shit just does not seem worth the bulk and weight that it brings.

>>34300711
To be honest, I've never been a fan of the DC3R. It looks very bulky, and everybody I know who bought one has ended up essentially buying the rig first and then figuring out what to fill all the pouches with later, which is entirely assbackwards when it comes to creating a streamlined gear setup. My older ancient photo above has a bit of doublestack with pistol mags atop rifle mags, but that was necessity and something I've moved away from- the multipouch clusterdoodle on the DC3R is kind of overkill to me.

I really do like chest rigs or panels atop plate carriers, but they work better when they are more streamlined and thinner. Just mags (preferably single) on the front and then put a little bit of shit on the sides. Something like the VTAC chest rig, where you've got the mags and then MOLLE on the sides just enough to put a few extras. Or, unironically the Chicom with some minor modifications stacks up well to most of the $200 chest rigs out there.

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>>34300799
Forgot pic. And for something like this, I'd just pretend there was no MOLLE on top of the magpouch portion. People get into this tailspin where they see open MOLLE webbing and they get a mental obsession that it MUST be used to attach more stuff.

>>34300711
>>34300799
the new d3cr is kinda stupid two it has like 4 pistol pouches and they removed the bungie pouch

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lightest level III plate gogogogo

>>34300849
Those are meant as 40mm pouches primarily according to the marketing, but I agree that it is odd to have a niche market (40mm grenadiers) as the standard.

Overall, I've said from the beginning that the DC3R has always been to much of a messy chest rig, but it's hard to argue against people glamour'd by tactical fads.

>>34296227
>when you find an epic weapon early in the game

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>tfw just got a firstspear strandhogg SAPI cut
cummerbunds get fucked this shit is awesome

>>34300139
If you want to run plates, get a PC
if you don't, get a chestrig
Personally, I prefer to keep bulky things on my beltline and have zero straps fucking with shouldering my rifle. If i'm running plates, I already have shit on my deltoid so it doesn't matter if I have shit on my chest.

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>>34295361

>>34296342
>I don't know about you but I don't expect to be shot running away.

>>34295361

dat d3

>>34296252
>https //www magnumresearch com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-Desert-Eagle-50-AE-24K-Gold.asp

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>>34296342
The current issue USGI bandoleer can easily be rigged up into a ghetto chest rig. If you don't have sewing skills to properly attach a strap, just run some small 550 cord loops through the loops on the bottom left and right of the bandoleer, and then attach a nylon strap or sling to the 550 cord. You can get fancier with it, but that's they quick and dirty way to do it with on-hand military/milsurp stuff.

This may be a dumb question, but what are the pros and cons of having a quick release PC? Is it work paying a little extra money for one? Or is it just some hyped up BS

>>34301350
Pros:
>Quicker access to wounds for medical care.
>Can quickly ditch it if you're underwater (not a super common worry unless you're SWCC or a 2005 Humvee driver in Iraq).

Cons:
>More complexity and bulk
>Limits your options when you're plate carrier shopping
>Some vests (thinking mostly of the IOTV full armor carrier) have absolutely shit tier design of the release handle making it getting caught and disassembling your vest while wearing it a reasonable worry.

>>34301384
By the sounds of that QR is a shit kind of idea. I think I'll just get a regular one.

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Would a British DPM UBACS work well with multicam?

>>34301444
It's basically the same thing as M81 and multicam, which wors both aesthetically and functionally.

>>34295223
proned out with double stack mags AND a fucking flashlight in the middle. its like you want to herniate your neck

>>34298999
>steel plates
Wew

>>34301466
Sweet sounds sexy to me, thanks buddy

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>>34300139
Front plate 90's ranger master race! Mayflower chest rigs are made to hold a plate.

>>34300176
It's not that bad. Having your back open to the air is GOAT. A backpack also helps with the balance.

Didn't get to reply last thread.
-Boots are rocky S2v
-Gloves are some leather driving gloves

>>34299736
AVS

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>>34300799
As just a chest rig I like It a lot. It works perfectly in tandem with my hill people gear ruck, but attached to a pc it is too THICC for a small boi like me. DESU I coped it because of the BPRE series. its my favorite out of the three I own but easily the least concealable.

>>34300314
What is the helmet in that pic? It looks like a British one.

>>34302537
Regular old MSA made ACH.

>>34302947
Huh, do you have a picture?

>>34302973
Not on my phone.

>>34300314
>16 inch on a block ii
kys kid

>>34303036
Why would I cut it down to pin and weld it when I don't have the SF flash hider?

Well, I asked highcom about their new steel plates, and they didn't seem keen on defending them. Their answer to the quality of their spall coat was basically: all steel plates spall so meh.

Not too impressed.

>>34303051
One, buy the right barrel to begin with, 2 buy an SF3P. Don't be a retard.

>>34303131
>SF3P
but it's farb

>>34303131
>Sperges about wrong barrel length
>Just buy an SF3P
Go eat a dick and get back into ARG. They're obviously missing their idiot.

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>>34300393
Nice gloves.
Can I get a rate and a reccomendation on a decent lowvis pc?

>>34303290
Basic Bitch/10
Crye Jump 2.0

What's the current go-to pre-built chest rig in the $200 range?

And anyone have a source on a ranger green slingster? Or news about why they're out if stock all over? Surely GT can't be completely responsible.

>>34303337
yep i'm a minimalist
fuck your cyre garbage

>>34303460
Check out some of warriors gear they make some decent stuff but they don't break the bank.

What are THE plates to get for a PC?

>>34303772
Lightweight Swimmer cut NIJ 06 Level 3

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>>34303492
>yep i'm a (poorfag)
>fuck your (having a job)
ftfy

>>34300877
Dyneema, i use it

>>34303825
What's swimmers cut again? Is that the heavily angled tops? Also what brand or is it just that and I'm being retarded

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>>34303874
> edgy fag

>>34304453
but the JPC is actually great

hello /gq/, I was wondering if you guys have any recommendation for a plate carrier that's not gonna break the bank, but not Condor-tier either.

I'm looking at the 5.11 Tactec, is it any good?

>>34303968
Yeah they're the really steep angled cut. Idk who makes good ones, I'm assuming Paraclete because I had a set of their lightweight plates for a while. I was just memeing, I'm happy enough with my Level 4 SAPI cut plates.

>>34304894
What is not break the bank for you?

>>34304844
I believe it, just don't like how it looks.

>>34304910
less than $300

>>34304946
Warrior makes some good stuff, 5.11 I've never tried their PC's but shit their boots have never done me wrong. I've never heard of tactec

>>34304985
thanks for the recommendation! I'm looking up warrior plate carriers now.

>>34305022
I like them because you can get a variety from black to multicam to Atacs it's quite nice

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>>34305022
$140.00

>>34305054
I have a Condor right now (impulse buy at a gunshow) and just want to upgrade to something more comfortable.

>>34300448

Do you really think you're going to treat your own injury with your own ifak? Get that thing to your rear or on your belt, and put your leatherman on your belt as well.

>>34300711

That rig is stupid. You have an unnecessary bungee bullshit pouch at your 1 o'clock, pistol pouches at your 1130 which will be blocked by your primary when you try to reload, because a pistol is only there for when your primary goes down, and when it does is slung and hung in front of you. You've also a massive unnecessary admin pouch at your 11 that just makes you bulky.

But it's all good if you're just buying this shit to feel cool and take pictures of your expenditures.

>>34305094
As a medic I carry three ifaks. One for myself and the other two are to bolster another person's if they get injured.

>>34300879

Why the fuck would someone who carries a grenade launcher put their rounds on their stomach. You become 40mm taller in the prone, creating a larger profile/snag hazard and risk damaging your grenades when you have to hit the deck or climb a wall. All around stupid rig.

>>34305160
As an EMT, your doing it wrong.

>>34300898

You should post this picture collage on your Facebook and email it to your immediate family so they can feel the same embarrassment I feel for you knowing you dress up and pose for your camera trying to look like a badass. At least you're not a tripfag

>>34305219
Why?

It means I don't have to go fumbling though my shit, I know what is in each pouch so I can easily grab it. No real downside, one goes on my PC, one goes on my belt and one of the ready made ones goes in a pants leg pocket.

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>>34305239
I was going off your Red tabs on your rack. If you have one on your belt I'd put two there, or move all spares for others to a small bag(this is just me you can do what you like) sometimes you have to work on people in small places where you might not be able to get to shit on you or in pockets.

pic not mine or related

>>34305329
That wasn't me from the pic earlier either I was just commenting that sometimes there are reasons to have multiple ifaks,

This picture always gets me though, why does he have 5 loadouts like I know it's probably for a SHTF thing but honestly why the fuck am I buying gear for other people?

>>34301350

Pro: can quickly shed it in an emergency, namely submersion, >>34301384 this dumb tripfaggot isn't aware of the number of drownings that occurred in Afghanistan and Iraq that could've been avoided had the victim access to a cut away handle and the training enforced to utilize it. Vehicle roll overs (post ied blast or otherwise) also present a situation in which you want to be able to ditch your kit in a heartbeat to squeeze out of partially damaged hatches in order to avoid succumbing unnecessarily to an internal fire or drowning inside a Vic. Additionally, if you're hit and out of the fight, the faster someone else can remove your kit, the faster they can move, assess and treat you.

What these tripbitches and "gq" fanfags don't have is experience fighting and surviving in their dress up costumes, which is why you'll see admin pouches galore, pistol mags on their chests, and ifaks where they think they can treat themselves by packing their own GSW they'll never have with combat gauze.

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Feast your eyes on the squishy goodness!

>>34303051

Because the guy talking shit to you only thinks a firearm is cool if it copies what he sees pictures of sof using.

>>34305396
So what you are saying is unless I'm deploying to shitholeistan I don't need a QR, Coolio.

>>34303772

Level 4, swimmer cut, lightest weight you can find

>>34305376
fair enough on the earlier pic my mistake
family of preppers has all ways been my guess

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>>34305419
Improvement!!

>>34305457
No worries I knot it can get confusing

>>34304943

Function over form you dumb little bitch the jpc hugs the plates and has a minimalist cummerbund while providing options to up and down scale your side straps, armor as well as solid mounting options for back panels, packs and the industries lightest, lowest profile cut away system all while being a fraction of the weight of comparable plate carriers.

Go find a hammer, throw it as high as you can and catch it with your forehead.

>>34305160

A medic for your air soft gang?

Have you ever been to combat or treated anyone while in kit? You're stupid as fuck. One personal goal that someone else should go to first to treat you when your dumbass gets hurt, and one transportable med bag for a patient. Stop being willfully stupid

>>34305442

If you pay money to encumber yourself with equipment to thrive and survive in a gun fight but lack the ability to instantly ditch kit, you're willfully accepting an unnecessary gamble. Like buying a car without seatbelts because you've never been in a crash.

>>34303140
Hope you like paying 400 for an SF4P
>>34303173
16 is uggo, and I have better gear than you do. off yourself.

>>34295361
he's got a weird face desu. good hair, but weird face

>>34296243
tell me more about mystery ranch, I'm on the fence between building a hellcat hybrid or spending the money on ASAP

I bought some plates locally that's supposedly AR500s, but doesn't have any markings at all. Should it trust these plates or did I just spent $80 on some glorified steel targets?

>>34305625

>I spent more money on my costume than you did, lol you're such a fag

Suckstart your closest firearm

>>34305680
:^) sorry you're so assmad because your rifle looks ugly as fuck

>>34305606
nigga don't pretend QR is in any way equivalent to seatbelts. i get the arguments for it but it's really not used very often.

You sound like a conventional forces guy who did 2 pumps to afghanistan and spent the whole time patrolling around and getting shot at in broad daylight, who believes QR is a necessity only because of your lack of breadth and inexperience.

meanwhile some Chad SOF guys are running around the AO at night in their non-QR plate carriers stacking bodies like cordwood.

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>>34305606
I'm sorry I didn't realize I fucking was stuttering

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anyone carry smoke on their gear?

>>34305917
Unless you are trying to break line of sight with the enemy I don't see much of a reason for it, it takes up space and is bulky.

>>34305699

Not my rifle, function over form.

>>34305783

You post like someone who wants to shit on someone who did two deployments to combat from the moral high ground of knowing there are sof guys that he is in no way associated with that have had pictures of them posted on the internet without a quick release.

>>34305880

Busted out the scissors, pen paper and cac to prove you're a uniformed inexperienced moron, k

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>>34305966

>>34304894
Beez

>>34305508
Still think it looks like trash faggot.
k.i.s.s.
Go play in traffic til you find out who your father is.

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>>34306258
>k.i.s.s.
>hates one of the most simple carriers

>>34306339
I mean I dislike the jpc because of the materials
I like it because of the shoulders. and it is a pretty simple carrier.
and it's cheap for crye.

and saying it looks like trash is just false. It is a sex carrier

>>34304894
You can get an LBT 6094 with 3 mag pouches for $225 right now, that's 50% off. Sale ends tomorrow though and it's only for coyote brown. http://lbtinc.com/fd17

>>34305159
That's how the D3Cr comes, it's not modular.

>>34306518
Go back to /arg/ your gear is garbage

>>34296227
I found the Gopnik.

>>34305094
Why are you making assumptions about me?

>>34305625
>16 is uggo
It's also not the topic of this thread, so again, fuck off.

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>>34306689
it may not be the best but id say its certainly not garbage. do you have any tips on how i can improve my gear?

>>34305610
This gay shit needs to stop.

>>34306902
Helmet. NODs. At least.

>>34306795
Yeah but fix your shit.

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>>34306953
i thought about getting nods but id rather buy 3k of guns and ammo. maybe one day but not anytime soon.

>>34306983
Mmm also no bully but that helmet cover don't look multicam in the slightest.

>>34307027
it was like a $10 difference between the no cover and cover combo, figured id roll the dice. not a big dealio to me

>>34306968
Eat a dick. Then a shotgun.

>>34307124
Don't give bants you can't take. Your rifle is uggo.

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Since there is no good woodland chest rigs I am going to build my own. Should I make it out of I cant find any 1000D Condura in woodland

>>34307304
Off topic shit posting isn't bants.

>>34307326
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Army-Surplus-Woodland-Camo-Chest-Rig-with-Pouches-/272564809287?hash=item3f7620ee47:g:HcAAAOSw-0xYNd7l
or should I just get this?

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>>34307378
beez makes several chest rigs in woodland iirc.
http://beezcombatsystems.com/Chest-Rigs_c5.htm

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>>34305207
I didn't design or agree with it, just throwing out how it is presented in the photos on storepages. Like I said, I never was drawn much to DC3Rs.

>>34305396
Oh Jeez my dude, I mentioned the "humvee driver in Iraq" as shorthand for rollovers, but it didn't warrant going into details of vehicle rollover for somebody buying a civilian kit anyway. Tone down the pompous autism by like 20%.

>>34307326
The RACK comes to mind. Or you could just get any of the wide options of simple MOLLE OD chestrigs and use M81 pouches on them, the end result is basically the same.

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>>34305207
The picture here, dug it up for the visual of how they market it. Technically I think the buzzword the pouches as "multimission use" or somesuch, but they are sized to be 40mm which is overkill for pistol.

As for stacking 40mm on top of other stuff, I agree it appears to be too much. I never carried a 40mm for dismounted in any way, so my experience is limited. The 40mm belts seemed far and away more popular. The only time I carried 40mm was an M79 (yes, an M79) in a turret and the ammo was stored in the shelf in the vehicle.

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>>34305966
someone responded with bait meme reaction to this, but this fella is right. A fucking cac card doesnt instantly make you an expert on gear, TCCC, or killing people.

something I always try to avoid is over evaluating my military experience, and keeping the lessons I learn in persepective with the real world

>>34305464
where did you get that radio?

>>34307344
Okay then, your gear is shit too.

>>34306942
I'd prefer it not

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>>34307526
Pretty decent setup.
Which pouch is IFAK? Water? What chest rig is that?

>>34306983
If you want to poorfag it up Armasight makes a couple of sub $500 NVGs. You already got the helmet so you could get the Vega for like $200 then make a mount for $50. Get a high power illuminator and it should work quite well. The Spark Core is $500 and should also be decent with a high enough power illuminator.

Hell you can go mid tier and spend around $1500 for some Gen 2 or Gen 2+ if you do the research.

>>34305938
>Unless you're trying to break line of sight with the enemy
Yeah that is the whole point. There is an Anon on here who carries smoke. He's got the LAW folding AR with the SS barrel.

>>34305675
Are they bare metal or do they have any coating on them? Sound kinda like steel targets. If they are both 10x12 that actually isn't a bad deal for steel targets lol.
You could have gotten a pair of ceramics that would weigh maybe even 1lb less per plate for like $250 or $300.

>>34305464
Nice radio setup!
I'm considering these for my next pair of ears.
http://shop.opticsplanet.com/peltor-tactical-6-sound-tra-sound-trap-trade-slim-line-mt15h67fb.html?_iv_code=PL-HP-MT15H67FB&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=CjwKEAjw7J3KBRCxv93Q3KSukXQSJADzFzVSYEL5PAi4CgZX4TVcIwj0j8QZcPd2QPBcwGr1RD5WUhoCxybw_wcB

Any idea if they will play well with my Baofeng+ambient noise+gunfire?
These should also work well with ARC rail adapters right?


>>34305376
Disposable income combined with a large social group or family that aren't privy to the unhealthy prepping obsession of a particular /k/ommando. I respect it. Someone else has something similar with 4x underfolder AKs and glocks.
>>34304946
>>34304894
With a $300 budget you definitely don't need to get a 5.11 carrier which is basically bottom of the acceptable barrel IMO.

Tons of options out there. What sort of rig are you trying to go for? Heavy duty patrol carrier setup or more minimal?

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>>34303772
These:
https://www.sylktech.com/collections/armor-plates/products/warrior-eite-hard-armor-plate-level-4

5.3lbs per plate, level IV stand alone.

>>34303290
Not bad. 100% usable, but there are ISIS guys in Syria right now using better setups than you. Just being honest. Seems like you're working on a budget though which is cool.
Shellback Tactical has a new minimalist carrier. MBAV carrier, Ferro Slickster etc.

>>34303112
Go with the poly/ceramics, or the ceramics we were talking about.

>>34301744
Some anon was asking about smokes. Maybe you can chime in?

>>34300711
I agree with:
>>34300814
>>34300799


>>34300289
100% reasonable PC loadout. Water plans?

>>34298423
I have a battle belt web rig setup essentially as my line one.
4x rifle mags, 2x pistol mags, IFAK, 2x Nalgene Pouches with 1L nalgene each, dump pouch, radio pouch (Tactical Tailor Milsim West airshit one that is turning out to be kinda shitty), plus pistol holster (Condor universal piece of shit until I actually decide on a pistol).

Gear works together, but sometimes by itself. If you ever plan to wear the battle belt without your PC, you sure as hell want you IFAK on there. If you ever plan to wear the battle belt without a hydro carrier or something else, well then you're going to want a canteen on there (or something slick like the 1.5L tactical tailor joey).

>>34307714
he's also seriously calling everyone larpers for not blowing $600 on QR plate carriers

aka he's fucking delusional and thinks all plate carrier use == rolling around in a MRAP getting blown up and drowning in rivers like the 82nd

literally retarded

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>>34308260
my STT is QR and its a feature I appreciate. the woods where I gear queer had a water hazard. but to extend that requirement to every armor user is ridiculous.

>>34307785
Post gear

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since I posted it everywhere else, my holster mod, an appendix wedge made out of an ach pad, stick velcro and 500 mph tape

>>34306902

Turn off the gay username for one, move your speed reload pouch ontop of your furthest left mag in the kangaroo. Your mags are also backwards, unless you store them like that when you know they're empty. Iran is, like most people in this thread, unnecessarily placed for your use. You should have no reason to ever access your own ifak.

>>34308666
>You should have no reason to ever access your own ifak.
>Self aid is not a thing.

>>34305610
His ass doesn't look that good desu.

>>34308823
According to >>34305094 and >>34308666 no it isn't. You should place your IFAK in the most inconvenient place possible for both yourself, and anyone else accessing it. You back, or your lower back on a belt seem to be the preferred options from these sorts of people. Probably because while being impractical it's also extremely uncomfortable. Good thing they're fucking retarded and their opinions should be discarded.

>>34308863
>You back, or your lower back on a belt seem to be the preferred options from these sorts of people.

While I agree with the spirit of snark in this post, placing a *tear away* IFAK on the back of a belt isn't the worst idea. You can reach it yourself with either hand.

Also, there is no rule that you only carry one aid pouch. Put a tear away on the belt, and then a smaller one on the chestrig/armor. Heck, go nuts and stick yet another one on the outside of your daypack.

>>34308923
B-but you'll never need to be reaching your own IFAK, ever.

In a serious tone, I know. I actually have a BFG Micro TKN on my gun belt. That I wear. For my job. A job where if I'm injured I will probably be alone, or no one near me will even have the first clue on how to apply a TQ or pressure bandage. Or I'll have to use it on someone else if I come across something like a car accident (this has happened).

The PC is for personal use at the range or whereever, and has an IFAK on it that I can reach. I don't wear a pistol with it because A) it's not comfortable and B) it doesn't match. So I have an IFAK for myself that I can reach with either hand in a position that works for each setup I have.

>>34307559

Wasn't attacking you in regards to the chest rig, but the design and the fanaticism it draws for some reason, and also didn't discount your mention of roll overs, but emphasized the prevalence of avoidable fatalities simply by being able to go slick in a moments notice.

>>34307670

Those nades pictured look long enough to likely be smoke/cs/clusters etc. To the point that if you fully seated an hedp into them they'd have the rim so deep you couldn't even extract your nug with gloves on. Seems like it was designed by someone who thought it would look cool.

>>34308260

If you post pictures of yourself in a combat glide fully kitted in your house.. Yeah... You're a larper.

If you're not worried about strapping 20+lbs to your torso without the ability to ditch kit and think you can remove your armor while upside down, under water with a rifle slung around said carrier, trapping it, and a helmet with an NVG elbow attached to it preventing you from lifting it over your head, you're either a larper that can ignore everything I've said, as you'll never wear your equipment outside of your house a photo shoot in the woods/the local shooting range, or you're not issued a kit with a cutaway. The only cons to a cut away system is marginally increased weight and added complexity. The leading edge in the armor market is currently crye, and every carrier they produce has a built in emergency doffing system for a reason. My LBT 6094 nearly killed me in Afghanistan, I switched to the RS version for three years and two deployments, but have since gone crye due to the minimalist design, weight reduction and back panel capabilities.

>>34307886
Fag

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id on boots?

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>>34308823
>>34308863
>>34308923
>>34308972

Have any of you seen let alone treated a GSW? Those of you that have, how many victims packed their own wound with gauze so deep and tight they stopped life threatening bleeding, and then applied a pressure bandage? How many of them applied their own chest seal and inserted their own needle D?

The only aid you'll need to apply and be capable of yourself in a gun fight is rounds down range and a TQ if you're suffering from the most commonplace preventable fatal injury on the battlefield- massive hemorrhaging. The whole purpose of an ifak, and the reason we carry them is due to the statistical truth that if you make it to a surgeon alive within an hour of sustaining an injury your likelihood of surviving is, or was throughout the GWOT (which also holds true stateside), near 95%. So long as someone else can stop you from bleeding to death and can ensure you're breathing your way to the operating table you're good to go. In your fantasy world I guess you see yourself treating your own wound, but in reality if you're coherent and cognitive enough to cut open your clothes, assess your wound, rifle through your belly mounted pouch full of bandaids and apply your placebo you your scratch, you didn't need to use your ifak in the first place but should've just walked/hobbled to a car and been driven to a hospital.

>>34305419
This reminds me, for those of you with Peltor Rangeguards who upgraded to gel cups (I think there is at least one person, if not two). Did the new cups snap right in or did you have to fuck around with them?

>>34305238
Why are you even in this thread?

Are there better earpads for Howard Leight impact sports?

>>34308111
>>34303290
Ha yeah, I've been stuck in 2000ish for awhile thanks for the constructive honesty.
Mbav/ferro, just what I'm looking for, have a good summer WGWS.

>>34308111
I wouldn't say that smokes are useless or bulky.
I carry 2 on me and 3 more in the bag. They make concealment wherever and whenever you need it, i.e. a linear danger area like a wide road, field, whatever.
Its up to you if it's too much weight/bulk is too much for what you want to do.

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>>34296227
Not bad.

>>34305419
*sweating intensifies*

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>>34309154

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>>34303290
First spear sleeper

>>34310068
where did you get them

>>34310430
>that aws strike chest rig

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>>34310430
I see what you're tryna do there...

>>34309156
>How many of them applied their own chest seal and inserted their own needle D?
Holy fuck you're autistic.

>>34303290
Out of curiosity what is the reason for needing a low visibility rig? Just curious.

>>34308111
Water plans?

>>34296283
Gloves in general are wonderful things. They increase the load you can lift because they spreak load and protect your hands from cuts and splinters. They keep your hands cleaner than otherwise, and since most of war is work they are essentially advanced work gloves. That's why Mechanix gloves are well liked. I recommend them for DIY where they more than justify themselves, and SHTF would be extreme DIY.

>>34310520
I second this, I have two pairs of mechanics, one classic and one impact best damn investment I've ever made

>>34305917
I don't due to lack of smoke and sloth, but it could be very useful innawoods if injured and you brought colored smoke.

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>>34310430
1st spear, nice thanks.
Who makes that black pc?

>>34310584
Yeah but I wouldn't carry it on my right, when I go innawoods I carry both a flare and a bright smoke but that goes in the top of my ruck rather than on my PC

>>34298999
kek

I want to get a PC for my wife but she is quite small, 5'3 maybe 100lbs. Who makes PCs that small or is it just a case of strapping it tightly to her. Or should I just say fuck it and duct tape the plates to her.

>>34308979
>If you're not worried about strapping 20+lbs to your torso without the ability to ditch kit and think you can remove your armor while upside down, under water with a rifle slung around said carrier, trapping it, and a helmet with an NVG elbow attached to it preventing you from lifting it over your head, you're either a larper that can ignore everything I've said, as you'll never wear your equipment outside of your house a photo shoot in the woods/the local shooting range, or you're not issued a kit with a cutaway.

Maybe I don't fucking splash around in the Bala Murghab river on a regular basis? Why is it so hard to imagine living in a place that's dry as fuck? If I wanted to drown in a river I would have to do it on purpose, kit or no kit.

>The leading edge in the armor market is currently crye, and every carrier they produce has a built in emergency doffing system for a reason.
Not even true, the JPC has no e-doff, and the LVS has no e-doff.

>>34309156
>if you haven't treated your own GSW before you should never be able to do it!
ok buddy. why is self-applied TQ totally easy but wound packing insanely hard in your mind?

>>34310847
Because he was probably an autistic POG that's probably got deployed to a camp as a stores clerk and never saw real combat?

>>34307951
I'm working on water but I have a bladder in a pack I'm carrying with my kit. The ifak is on my belt. The chest rig is a Tactical Tailor MAV

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>>34309985
There is also this one:
http://shop.opticsplanet.com/shellback-tactical-stealth-low-vis-plate-carrier.html?_iv_code=0W-APC-SBTSLWVPCR-SBT-STLTHPC-RG&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=CjwKEAjwj6PKBRCAy9-07PeTtGgSJAC1P9xGmiuX9USyDJWncoqyo1gmGxtYL_JGT12lC1nmGNGUMxoCf-vw_wcB
Right back at you friendly Anon.

>>34310068
>>34310434
The larger Enola Gayes are supposedly decent for the money. A2grip tried some out. The big issue with the airshit ones it that the packaging is more akin to commercial fireworks packaging rather than an actual military tool, so you don't have good waterproofing (as we know from earlier in this thread all of us are obviously at high risk of falling into water), or good impact resistance.

>>34310482
Yeah you listed stuff for your PC and didn't include water. It going on a belt or pack or something?

>>34310520
>>34310532
I took my Memechanix shooting maybe twice before the finger tips started opening up. Palms and the rest are all right. Might be my long nails.

>>34310584
>>34305917
A couple of the large Enola Gayes with good wind conditions should obscure a smaller city intersection enough to move across if need be.

>>34310931
It's going to go in my ruck currently, though I may consider getting a pouch for it on the back of my PC, I just don't want it to fuck with the seating of my ruck.

>>34310957
wear a backpack style bladder like the thermobak. and when you want to start rucking you can either keep wearing it and it only be a little uncomfy because low profile OR strap it to the outside of your ruck real quick if you have time and opportunity

>>34310838

Everywhere humans reside is close within proximity of water deep enough to down in, dipshit. The JPC1 has, since being introduced, been disturbed with a retrofit e doff kit and the 2 comes with it standard. Finally, the LVS is a soft armor vest not intended for a second line fighting rig.

>>34310847

Is this a serious question? Instead of spending money on gear why not spend it first on the training to use it. When attempting to stop an arterial bleed you need pressure. When you're a victim of an arterial bleed the only way you're going to be able to do this effectively is with the mechanical advantage provided by a TQ. Stuffing gauze into a wound yourself isn't going to staunch an arterial bleed. If you aren't going to die without the use of a TQ, again, walk your fat larpy ass to your mom's Volvo and get a ride to the hospital, and realize your fantasy of being a badass lone wolf grey man sheep dog exists only in your mind and hypotheticals you post on the internet.

>>34311158
>Everywhere humans reside is close within proximity of water deep enough to down in, dipshit.
Yes, now why would I be doing river crossings in a fucking city?

>When you're a victim of an arterial bleed the only way you're going to be able to do this effectively is with the mechanical advantage provided by a TQ. Stuffing gauze into a wound yourself isn't going to staunch an arterial bleed.
tell that to CoTCCC and see what they say

>>34311158
could you stuff gauze the best you can, then apply an isreali pressure bandage? that's be mechanical?

really the only SELF aid ive been taught is tq application, but CLS isnt super advanced stuff

finally, i thought tq was the answer for arterial, and that gauze is only good for veneious bleedung

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Thoughts on this chest rig?

Looking for a good one and this seems to fit the part.

>>34311219
>could you stuff gauze the best you can, then apply an isreali pressure bandage? that's be mechanical?
It would be, and that's how certain wounds are treated normally by someone else. Just depends on whether you're coherent enough to do it to yourself.

>finally, i thought tq was the answer for arterial, and that gauze is only good for veneious bleedung
Not exactly. The gauze is for massive hemorrhage in locations a TQ cannot reach, around the groin or the shoulders. This could include arterial bleeding or venous bleeding.

Lots of hydration discussion but how come nobody talks about sunblock/suncreen

>>34311342
ok

put sunscreen on nigga

>>34310828
There are some PCs that are made to only fit 8x10" plates. Try to find one of those. Sorry I don't know the names off the top of my head!

>>34311342
Most of us aren't children. Lel kidding. This is important but more of an /out/ consideration.

>>34311352
Can you do my back?

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>>34304453
>>34304943
>>34306258
I didn't even have to BTFO you. Other people came in and told you what a dumb faggot you are.
>HURR IT'S NOT ASTHETIC
What are you even buying it for? Are you and your wife's daughter playing dress up?

>>34311389
just wear a shirt nigga i ain't touching no sweaty ass back

>>34305159
Did you even read my fucking post? I'm not running the d3cr attached to my pc anymore because the thickness does not justify the limited extra capabilities. However I can guarantee you that the pistol mags do not in any way block access to the primary mags.

>>34311219
Anon is sperging really bad. You can self apply pressure dressings or even occlusive seals. Self applying a decompression needle is out of the question, but would you rather let yourself bleed out in a couple of minutes or self apply a solution that would give you chest tension a far longer timescale?

To paraphrase every aid course I've taken: "The perfect is the enemy of the good."

Firstaid is never perfect. Self-aid is likely to be less well applied than normal firstaid. Does it mean you shouldn't try? All firstaid ever is for major wounds is an exercise in buying time until a professional shows up. If you apply crappy selfaid that keeps you breathing an extra 20 minutes, it might be enough.

In addition to the point of accessing your own aid kit is the point that while in the military, you are taught to always use the casualties own kit on them, that isn't a truth in the civilian world. If you happen to be near somebody else that gets wounded, you might have to use your own kit because they don't have one. Double additional point is that even in a military context, you might be having to access your own aid kit to help somebody who's kit has been exhausted, or somebody (civilian, contractor) who isn't carrying their own kit. The edgy answer is "lol, no kit, let 'em die!", but when you're dealing with shit face to face hopefully people aren't really the psychopathic.

>>34308111
Well I have a camel pack on my PC so don't need a canteen on belt. I doubt I'd ever use my belt w.o PC unless I was just doing some target practice in yard. Same for IFAK, probably keep it on PC.
Belt should be in today so I can put it together and see what works

>>34311319
yeah, my bad should of remembered that. but you cant do a pressure bandage in your groin anyways. And the only way to practice stuffing gauze inyourself is shoving gauze up your ass.

>>34311342
spf 30 on my neck. I wear long sleeves operating

>>34311541
>you cant do a pressure bandage in your groin anyways
depends. if it's at a certain height on your thigh you can't get a TQ above it but you can still pack and apply a pressure bandage. If it's on your groin proper that's when you need to use a junctional tourniquet, which is really your medic's job.

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>>34311219

The only bleeding you could realistically stop would be non arterial which you likely wouldn't die from within an hour's time alone. Regular gauze, but ideally a hemostatic gauze like combat gauze brand combat gauze can and will stop an arterial bleed but you need PRESSURE. You won't be able to put 100lbs directly into your own wound and hold it for nlt two minutes. I'd like to think I could, but I've seen enough bleeding people to know that once you're hit your typically in some pain and packing gauze into your own torn flesh and likely shattered bone is just not going to happen. However, slipping a pre looped TQ around an extremity and twisting a bar is a realistic and effective method of slowing yourself from bleeding to death. HOWEVER if you've ever dealt with a gsw to the femur or an amputation you'd know that one TQ is not enough and they take some serious muscle to crank down enough to compress that squishy tube, bone and muscle enough to shut down your very painfully failing hydraulic system.

Point being, ifaks bleeder kits or blowout kits as they're also known, are best packed and carried when you understand their realistic use and should be carried accordingly. IE clearly marked, accessible and capable of no less than SOMEONE ELSE FINDING YOU FACE DOWN and being able to pack a single GSW, seal a hole in your chest and insert an NPA to ensure you're not going to bleed out and you're going to have an airway for the golden hour. Anything beyond should be available in a team mates (granted you have a team or even friends) dedicated med bag, an ambulance/helicopter or an OR.

>>34311319

Groin and shoulders can also have a piece of gear placed above the bleed (an upside down helmet works) with two TQs daisy chained together. I have a piece of pvc nigger rigged in my med bag for this specific purpose. Pic related.

To be continued..

>>34311158
So are you intentionally strawmaning every argument presented to you?

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>>34311521

The issue isn't access to your primary magazines but the inherent fact that if you're reloading your secondary, your rifle is hanging in front of the magazines you're trying to access.

>>34311527

I agree that while doing something is better than doing nothing, I've still never experienced anyone who needed truly life saving immediate aid who was capable of providing it themselves beyond routing a TQ as tight as they could before going internal.

>>34311637
I'm disappointed I'm not seeing any bare feet

>>34311637
I agree to an extent, but swinging the rifle off to the side or on to ones back isn't that large of a chore IMO. Regardless, I don't keep any pistol mags on that rig anymore anyways, they were really just there for experimentation. I keep a light and a multitool in there and feed my handgun exclusively from my belt line.

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>>34311733

You made a step in the right direction, and shouldn't have to any more, but shouldn't ever go through the motion of tossing/swinging your rifle out of your way probably isn't, and should continue not to be a practiced method of transition. I'd suggest moving your multi tool onto your first line/belt, seeing as that you (and everyone else) make use of that tool more than any part of your kit, and it's best to have it on your person when you need it rather than have to go find your fighting load when you simply new pliers or a flathead on hand. But what do i know

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>>34311392

Best way to hook Beofeng up to muffs?
iPod too

>>34311819
> shouldn't ever go through the motion of tossing/swinging your rifle out of your way
pls explain

idk if that's what i do but i don't just let it fall, i steer it to the side of my body cause this way my stock doesn't mess with my handgun presentation as much

>>34312010
Most electronic ear pro will come with a 3.5mm jack and an aux cable. Get a PTT with a 3.5mm output that you can plug it into and then plug the PTT into your radio. I'm sure someone can explain it better, I'm on mobile at work so I'm rushed.

Something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Z4X3MM6?psc=1

I'm not recommending that specific one but using it as an example.

Any of you guys run a Shellback PC? Do you like it? Pics, opinions and so on?

I just got plates but need a PC.

>>34295223
>Inquisition rosetta

A man of taste and culture.

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>>34307951
>Any idea if they will play well with my Baofeng+ambient noise+gunfire?
These should also work well with ARC rail adapters right?

They don't have an input jack so your audio won't be as clear, but you should still be able to manage since they're hear-through (might get nasty feedback). Check out Comtac XPI headsets on Fleabay if you are looking to fully integrate comms. There were a few brand new ones up for bidding that aren't much more than the headset that you listed (will still need mic, y cable, and ptt). Also, from the looks of it, your listed headset should interface with ARC rail adapters without any significant problems.

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Are dump pouches really worth it? Or do they just take up space?

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>>34312471
Something like this?
Doesn't look like it's too bulky.

>>34313011
I feel like they just take up space, because in a reload, I have time and opportunity to reindex the empty mag in a pouch, or I don't and I just drop it. that being said, if you may need to pick up sensitive or mission critical equipment, a dump pouch maybe useful

there's that pic floating around of a marine who found a stray kitten and let it ride in his dump pouch, but if you were a cool guy and raiding an house and stumble upon ledgers or hard disk drives, you might want to scoop them into your dump pouch really quickly.

you can justify dump pouches if you need to, but I don't use one currently.

>>34312459

Not so much gear related at this point, but a primary to secondary transition should be a smooth and efficient movement beginning with moving your strong hand straight to your pistol while to achieve a high, firm grip and manipulate the retention device, while your support hand immediately releases the hand guard and is pulled into your workspace, palm open ready to marry up with your pistol when it gets there, while using your wrist/outside of your thumb to pull your butt stock towards your chest.

Your support hand should be waiting for the catch in the same place, between your legs, regardless of what kit you're in, be it in a direct action overt rig where it's simultaneously waiting for the marriage between your two hands and also pinching you primary to your chest, if you're concealed and it's final motion of your stroke to pull up and away your shirt to reveal you pistol, or if you're slick, open carrying a la police style. The only situation your hand shouldn't be waiting between your pecs is if you're firing instantly from the holster liken to tom hey homie is that my briefcase cruise. In that case get your hand exaggeratedly high the fuck out of there, or pull your butt stock out of the way so you don't shoot your own primary.

To be continued

>>34313011
If you like them, they are worth it. The amount of argument online over what amounts to having a large external pocket really leads to hyperbolic name calling.

Personally, I like having dum pouches because they are easier to stuff retained pouches in than a cargo pocket, and if you aren't wearing pants with cargo pockets then viola you've got the dump pouch anyway.

Seeing that they are just big ol' pockets hey have additional uses to just carrying spent mags. In a military setting you can use them to expediently drop in whatever in there and it is IMO a bit comfier than carrying it in a cargo pocket (I'm still convinced I have a decade old canteen shaped bruise from being made to run around with a 1qt in my cargo pocket). An example might be to load up some extra water bottles in the dump pouch to give you extra water on top of your camelbak's amount for a patrol (just crush the bottles and toss 'em back in when they are empty), or to pick up battlefield evidence and toss it in- this works if you for example don't have a ruck and/or no room in a ruck for that kind of stuff.

A nice small rollup that sits out of the way and then opens to be a simple bag is all you need. Your picture with the sphincter type top opening was really too much of a pain in the ass IMO.

>>34313121
>Personally, I like having dump pouches because they are easier to stuff retained pouches in than a cargo pocket, and if you aren't wearing pants with cargo pockets then viola you've got the dump pouch anyway.

easier to stuff retained mags in than a cargo pocket

>>34313121
>>34313091
From what I'm hearing it's one of those things it's worth just picking one up to use as and when depending on what you happen to be doing.

I imagine it doesn't take long to attach and detach as needed.

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Holy shit, TACOs BTFO. How will HSGI ever recover?

>>34313156
I'd try it out and see if you like it or not. If you like it, just keep it on there and practice with it. It's better to figure out how you like your setup and keep it the same as much as possible than to constantly be going back and forth taking things off and putting them back on.

As for empty/ half-empty mags back on the vest, this is something I'd always been taught against. Training was always to stick them in cargo pockets before the advent of dump pouches, and then dump pouches just acted as cargo pocket 2.0. This keeps things simple because you know "mag in original pouch = full", and when you're getting shot at, your stupid lizard brain doesn't get confused. People sometimes have a system set up where they play a cup game moving mags around on their vest to account for where they put a half empty mag, but IMO all that thinking goes out the window when you're being shot at (or under even a stress timer). In general a good rule of thumb is to assume that the version of you who exists in a firefight is about 30iq points lower than your normal self, and you need to streamline things ahead of time to help that retard out.

It also makes things easy if you're running back somewhere that has more loaded mags (toughbox, ASP, truck, etc), since you can just start putting loaded mags in the empty spots on your vest rather than being like "hmmm, now which one of these mags was half loaded?"

>>34313120

> between your legs
Between your pecs*

Continued

The act of tossing your primary around the side of your body is both inefficient and would cause a swaying mass of instability interfering with your critical immediate shot placement during your transition. By allowing your primary to drop straight down it's only obscuring your primary's magazines, which is fine because it's not working anyway, while leaving your weak side clear for access to your secondaries magazines on your support side. By belt mounting your pistol mags at your 10 o clock instead of your second line/fighting load, you ensure that you've ammunition to feed your pistol whether or not you're fully kitted up. I personally carry two belt mounted, one PC mounted magazine, all of which at the 10/11 o clock allowing similar draw strokes to said magazines and allowing me to first pull from my plate carrier, which if I have to ditch for any of my previously listed reasons above which people refuse to accept as possibilities, I'll still have two magazines on my belt to survive with.

>>34313011

Dump pouches are pretty crucial, as they're typically very light, can be stowed and provide quick access to large items for short term storage for anything from grenades and LRFs to spray paint and staple guns for training.

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>>34313027
No I meant like a PTT with an integrated mic that you can plug your muffs into. I've seen then around when I was shopping for a radio but can't seem to find the model I was considering right now.

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>>34305653
no u

>>34313315
Yeah I was just realizing my muffs are listen only so would need a mic and a PTT set up. I'm a retard when it comes to radios and such. Trying to learn but hard to get started w no tutor.

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>>34313417
Heh

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>>34313302
but is it

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>>34313417
aww yeah GT saved one of my meme pics.
just watched your new vid nerd.

>pic semirelated

>>34313651
haha thanks boo

>>34313200
Glad I'm not the only one who watches him.
Seems like a pretty informative guy.

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>tfw you find an unlisted GT video

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What is the best Sub-$200 plate carrier?

>>34313841
>that stock
Sad.

>>34313663
Just finished watching the mag pouch video, confirmed that I want some dem g code pouches.

Any chance your videos will get into more than shooting? Bush crafty, evasion sneaky breeki stuff?

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>>34313200
>>34313417
still wanna know your opinion on bfg ten speed pouches

>>34313841
Warrior DCS

>>34313867
The actual shooting videos do so shitty, I don't do as many. Bush craft yes, evasion probably not as it gets too nitty gritty into grey areas

>>34313871
fast to draw from, shitty to reindex mags on.

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>>34313960
>shitty to reindex mags
i agree so much. also agree with you on the tacos.

>>34313960
..is this real GarandThumb
What is the ideal Gray Man gear you would wear for Muslim uprising?
Asking for a friend.

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>>34314041
flannel shirt, blue jeans, some slick pc and a subcompact.

>>34314100
What about when it's over 100 degrees out because you don't live in North Dakota

>>34314195
wife beater, shorts and a subcompact.

>>34314223
Your wisdom knows no boundries

>>34313960

No one here cares about shooting out function, they just want to look the part

>>34313841
A better job.

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>>34313960
I only have pistol bfg pouches, but now theyve been broken in, i just guide the pistol mag in with my index finger to open up the tight hole for that thicc mag

>>34313417
welp, I'm done. nice knowing you all. which one should I use /gq/?

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Its not tactical and this pic is like a year old now cause i haven't been home in about as long but at least i got some serious comfy going on

>>34314617
Do not contribute to gun death statistics. However, place glocc in ass.

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>>34314636
my booty is too tight for a usp

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>>34314656
my bad, fixed

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>>34314617
I get the strangest boner when it comes to non-Tactical full size USPs being roughed up and shot mercilessly as duty pistols instead of dainty target guns

It feels so much more natural
Is that a forty?

So its time to expand into a belt, but dont have the experience to decide between a padded belt or just a straight riggers belt

padded molle
>attach molle and belt mount pouches
>muh comfy
>relatively easier to take off than threaded through/velcro belts

riggers
>simpler/lighter/cheaper
>less shit touching my body
>possibly do double duty as battle/pants belt though i'd never use it that way


I really don't like the idea of a shitty velcro pants belt that I'd have to align a riggers belt with each time, but it would solve the concern of a padded belt shifting around on my body and not have to deal with two layers of buckle


I'm stuck between getting a brokos/first spear belt to have some padding and not a hot ass strip of neoprene, or getting the tyr belt so I can choose later to either put it on with velcro or slap on pads

wat do

>>34313841
AWS

>>34313290
the problem is that if i don't bring the rifle around to the side my stock is literally floating right there between my pecs about 3" off my chest, fucking right where my hands would normally meet.

>>34313290
i should add that i don't toss my gun. I just bring my support hand (still holding the handguard) directly to the outside of my thigh.

>>34315494
I have a designated pair of battlepants that i keep with a riggers belt threaded through and the holster/pouches set in place on it. So the belt works great for lbe, holding up pants, and just never gets removed.

>>34314863
9mm boi

although, when (not if) I buy my usp compact, I'm getting a .40

I watched paul harrell's video on 9mm vs 40 and a few other 9v40 vidros, and in the USP-C, one less bullet for sometimes not so insignificant performance differences between 9 and the admittedly more powerful 40 is worth it


as for the fbi going back to 9, i am convinced cost and undertrained shooters who would shoot better with a 9 are to blame

I am glad 9mm was my first handgun, but a .40 or .357 sig might be my second (lifesizedpotato really turned me on to .357 sig, as well as the highway patrol man who I've know for half my life that taught me to shoot)

>>34314618
I used to have the same drug rug.
Goddamn that shit was comfortable.

>>34301744
>attack on titan patch
where'd you buy it?

>>34315712
>although, when (not if) I buy my usp compact, I'm getting a .40
Were you dropped on your head at birth?

>>34315644
my thing is I use the same pants for yard work and hiking

Especially with hiking i use an osprey pack that has a waist strap that would fuck with any pouches so I need something that comes off

>>34315834
Alieexpress i think on sale.

>>34315974
thanks, the wall guards were always the smartest dudes imo

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>trying to get in shape so I can get some gear and fit into pants again
>steadily losing weight

Feels good, man.

>>34315847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5hSLHm-bdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTTDgZZZFa0

hot round lives matter. in the hands of proficient shooters, negligible decreases in speed of shooting or accuracy, with appreciable effects on target. 9mm with lower recoil and higher capacity has greater hit probability, but 40/357 sig effect on target and with dealing with materials is also appreciable. It's a pro/con thing, and for the usp compact, I think it's worth losing 1 bullet

>>34316088
>effect on target and with dealing with materials is also appreciable.
If you were worried about that you would be replacing your AR with a 308 or 6.5/6.8

>>34316059
>be skeleton
>get in gear I bought and die
>something needs to change
>year later, now pretty fit
similar situation here man, keep it up

>>34316144
except no, because 5.56 out of a 14.5 inch barrel blows any of these rounds out of a 4 inch barrel out of the water, it's not even comparable. plus the difference between 5.56 and .308 in power, recoil, and capacity is way greater than the power, recoil, and capacity between 9mm and .40/.357sig Every round has it's compromises, even 9mm

This is going to sound like a stupid fucking question but is a rigger belt meant to go over a regular belt? Or is it meant to run through the loops on the pants.

>>34316216
normal riggers belts go through your pants.

gunfighter type riggers belts like mine go over a special velcro inner belt.

>>34315494
depends how much shit you gotta carry

>>34316198
And 308 blows 5.56 out of the water for 14.5 barrels.

6.5/6.8?
5.7x28?

>>34316216
Thru padded outer belt

>>34316259
but 308 guns are larger, heavier, lower cap, higher recoil than 5.56 and the difference is much greater than 9mm vs 40

What do you guys use to organise all your gear? I've got gun cleaning stuff, loose ammo, and miscellaneous items. Should I pick up an ammo can for it?

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>>34312987
>Comtac XPI
>$200 after shipping from Britbongistan
Neat thanks! Also I didn't realize that the Peltor Slimlines didn't have a 3.5mm input.

>>34313011
I like mine. I don't drill dumping to it because that doesn't make much sense to me, but I use it for policing mags, shells, loose rounds after malfunctions, etc. If you've got extra space they can be useful.

>>34316059
Keep at it Anon! Calories in calories out.

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>>34308666
>move your speed reload pouch
>Your mags are also backwards
>You should have no reason to ever access your own ifak

>>34313841
5.11 TacTec ain't bad.

>>34317001
but it is. the rear plate pocket sits too low, get a banshee, a tag, a ferro, anything else in that price range

new thread >>34317174