Can we get a Kaiserliche / Kriegsmarine thread going? It's

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Come on goyim

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Dora barbette of Bismarck, with penetration.

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Wreck of HMS Glowworm, seen through optics of Admiral Hipper.

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Glowworm before she turned and rammed Hipper.

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Blucher rolling over at Narvikfjord. Sorry, most of what I have is warships getting fucked up.

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Vorpostenboot MOSEL being shot up by Beaufighters.

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U-849 sunk by Liberator off West Africa.

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scharnhorst and gneisenau are my most favorite ships
they have been true twins and combat buddies
as soon as they got seperated, both died

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U-boats surrendering in Loch Eriboll.

did no heavy kriegsmarine surface ships survive the war?

>>34296091
Nope, RN and RAF got pretty much all of them, rest got scuttled.

>>34296119
they would've made fantastic museum pieces

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Tirpitz, pre Tallboy bombing

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>>34294061

I have a weird fascination with the Scharnhorst. I really wish that Hitler hadn't gone full autism so that the Dutch could have bought their own version like they wanted to. The Dutch version was to be less armored, but much faster, and with superior AA capability. Main battery would have been composed of 11-inch guns just like the Scharnhorst. The idea was to have a fast, powerful "cruiser-killer" that could protect Dutch colonies from Japanese aggression. The deal sadly never came through because Dutch-German relations kinda feel apart after Germany invaded the Netherlands.

>you will never see Graf completed and the Kriegsmarine develop aircraft carriers
Really would've been a sight to see

>>34296194
It would never have made it to the north sea

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Fresh OC

>>34296935

I really like the look of having the guns concentrated to the aft.

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And a different kind of cruiser

>>34296091
Prinz Eugen did, then it got nuked

>>34294566
Oslofjord

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>>34297099
The captain of the Atlantis was given a samurai sword.

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Graf Spee, scuttled due to godly bamboozling

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>>34296091
Prinz Eugen went to USA as war prize, Hipper went to Soviet Union.

>>34293957
So, one of the main reasons the Wehrmacht did as well as it did was the very close coordination between different arms, especially the tactical air arm and the guys with the rifles.

The Kriegsmarine of WW2 never seemed to do that. I was reading about Operation Berlin a while back, and one of the biggest scores wasn't done by the BB themselves, but by U-124 and U-105, taking potshots at the dispersed convoy that scattered when they saw the German battleships. Except this wasn't some planned operation. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and other convoy dispersals would not meet wit h the same opportunistic attacks by u-boats.

Maybe I'm being dumb here, having no experience with naval warfare whatsoever, but it doesn't seem like a terrible idea to have your battleship-raiders tell your submarine guys where they'll be heading to, have a few of them lurking in areas that seem likely to run into convoys as support for the raids, but it's something the Germans never implemented. Anyone have any idea why? Especially since they were able to do quite sophisticated stuff in terms of C&C on land.

>>34300810
Subs are much slower than fast battleships.

Bismarck and Scharnhorst could go 30 knots. The most common U-boat type VII could barely go 18 knots surfaced and less than 8 when submerged.

>>34301103
Yeah, but it's not like the S&G were going at top speed all the time, especially since they were dragging tankers and other support ships with them. Plus, they weren't going in a straight line. If I know that they'll be at location X on the 18th, my u-boat can get in the area by taking a shorter route than if I'm just trailing along behind them.

>>34294061
>Scharnhorst
She's unironically the best BB/BC Germany ever produced.

>>34297436
This is actually the worst crime the US has ever committed.

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>posting Shitmarine

>>34301435
that and the Nagato. That poor ship went through hell in the last months of the war and just after

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>>34299162
Oh yeah. Oops.

Whatever happened to that plan to raise and restore the Graf Spee? I know they contracted James Cameron to document it, and they raised an eagle and a rangefinder, but has anything else come from it?

>>34297099
what legends are made of...doubles prove it.

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KAMERADEN DIE ROTFRONT UND REAKTION ERSCHOSSEN

>>34300810

You're vastly over-estimating the amount of ships that the Kriegsmarine actually had. They were vastly outnumbered from the very beginning. They would loved to do more large-scale operations but they simply never many opportunities to do anything like that. But they did actually do battleship-submarine coordinated operations where a battleship would force a convoy to scatter by attacking whatever escorts were present, at which point u-boats would pick off individual ships in the ensuing confusing. So it did happen, it just didn't happen very often because of the very limited number of ships the German navy had at its disposal. Once it even happened unintentionally: a false report of Tirpitz making a sortie into the Atlantic caused Convey PQ-17 to scatter, only to be picked off by u-boats as they tried to evade the phantom battleship.

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>>34302350
>>34302362
>>34302370

We general German warship thread now?

>>34302938
That eagle is stored in a Uruguayan warehouse because the Germans got assmad that Uruguay might sell it

>>34293957
Is that the cruiser that got ate by an obsolete coastal fortification from the age of sail?

>>34296956
>guns focused on aft
who built it, the French?

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>>34305615

Yep

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>>34305802

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The wreckage of the battleship Gneisenau in 1947, two years after her sinking as a block ship at the entrance of Gotenhafen port

Is this supposed to be a comedy thread?

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The super dreadnought SMS Bayern taking part in the proud German naval tradition of scuttling your own ships

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>>34303059
Yoink

>>34306030
>>34305943
>>34305902


>Scuttled

I'm seeing a pattern here

>>34302350
This. The Kaiserliche Marine is superior in every regard.