Why are new shooters such faggots? >buy stupid firearm purchases

>"Why are people who are new to something not as good at it as people who have been doing it a long time? This makes no sense to me!"

>>34268487
Also, there's nothing - nothing - really wrong with Ruger in the current year.

>>34268487

Nobody new to guns even knows about Ruger

>>34268518
Don't take the bait. Sage this shitty ass thread.

>>34268487
there is literally nothing wrong with Ruger.

>drinking while shooting

>>34268487

Also you're retarded if you think past ruger is better than current ruger

>>34268487
Ruger did nothing wrong.

>>34268487
Man, rugerfags coming out in full force.

>>34268563
What is the groupthink consensus on why are we supposed to hate Ruger? I've got a 10/22 and an LCP2, and I think they do an alright job making guns.

>>34268533
>not drinking while shooting

Alcohol is a performance enhancing drug for National Collegiate Athletic Association matches.

>>34268640
imo their 10/22, the Mk.IV, their revolvers, their AR15s and their SR15s are all excellent firearms. other than their shitty centerfire semiauto pistols, they mostly make good quality and reasonably priced firearms.

>>34268640
Nothing is "wrong," with them. It's just like, why?

Revolver? Smith and Wesson beat them. .22? Savage or Marlin beats them (although not on the customization, I'll give them that). Handgun? Also middle of the road, but I won't take a claim there because that's a contentious issue.

>CZ, Sig, and Glock

>>34268640
Some people are still booty blasted that 20 years ago, their former CEO, who hasn't been at the company in years, cucked on high capacity magazine bans.

>>34268640
Because bill ruger was a cocksucking gun grabber in bed with the dems who wouldnt release hi cap firearms because it was "irresponsible"

But fortunately he died a long painful death and ruger has become politically silent, releasing designs that would make the old man spin in his grave all the while.

Frankly I like new ruger, second most progressive company design wise(behind keltec), but actually tends to release working stuff and stand behind their products

>trying this hard to be the old guy at the range

>>34268653
I guess I agree, it didn't look like they brought anything to the table when it came to handguns that another brand didn't do better in a ton of ways. I did choose their LCP2 as a pocket pistol, as it seemed to be the best option. I liked my shield, but the bodyguard seemed like a giant POS so I had to shop around.

>>34268661
I'm not a revolver guy, but I've heard both sides and they both seemed to have valid points. IMO savages aren't better than ruger, don't know about marlin though...cz .22's are some of the best I've seen though. I do think most ruger handguns are a waste of time though.

>>34268487
Newfag noguns here. I can shed some light on the second one. People who aren't autists who secretly try to learn as much about guns from /k/ and youtube as they can, because their parents are really liberal and won't let them get guns only know about guns from movies and vidya. They probably don't even really know anything about how gun companies work.
>"Of course Colt is the shit, they make 1911s (as seen in COD and everything that involves the Americans in WW2), Pythons (as seen in COD and probably other places), Detective Specials (as seen in cop shows and detective movies), SAAs (as seen in MGS and anything that has to do with the old west) and so much other stuff."
>"Of course Remington is the shit, every pump shotgun I see in a video game is a Remington."

Also can I have the sauce on that pic?

>>34268504
/thread

>>34268528
I'm >>34268778
This is also true.

>>34268661
S&W revolvers and Ruger revolvers are practically the same quality unless you get into totally arbitrary details.

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>>34268640
The autists on this board hate on Ruger for the same reason they hate on Glock. Ruger makes solid guns but their aesthetic is more unrefined and workman-like than some prefer. That's why you get faggots jumping through mental hoops to justify buying a cuck revolver with a lock because they can't just come out and admit they will gladly be cucked for aesthetics.

I like the Ruger aesthetic myself and they make something of quality for damn near every niche of the shooting market.

>>34268487
They often learn about guns from video games or movies. They only see the gun working perfectly because very rarely do either of those ever show malfunctions or general reliability and handling issues. The media also makes certain brands sound amazing to anyone not pissing themselves every time they hear shrubmaster mentioned.

It's fun to mag dump and scares the Fudds away. It's a nice rush and not everyone cares about hitting that target 500 yards out.

>drinking while doing fuck all with guns
Next time you try to get shitfaced while shooting please remember some guns need a suck start alongside the trigger pull.

>>34268698
The best option is the P238 or P938 if you dont mind a safety/SAO pistol. I prefer it since I only own manual safety pistols. Also the sigs are more expensive, although the P238s can be found around 400 from time to time, and P938s go on sale for 500 regularly.

>>34269023
I'm not a fan of hammers or safeties on IWB/pocket guns I carry. And it's twice the cost. I think they are probably the highest quality pocket guns you can get though.

>>34269058
Fair enough. I sold my LCP for a P238, the difference is night and day. The LCPs slide is much harder to pull back, the controls are harder to use, the trigger is mediocre at best, and its recoil is snappy as fuck. The P238 is like a luxury pocket pistol, if that makes sense. Low recoil despite being tiny and fairly lightweight, a great trigger, good sights, and I can magdump accurately and quickly.

>>34268992
If you don't like a few beers with your range day, then I can't do anything but shake my head...

>>34268504
First answer best answer lmao

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>rambles on about politics
>awkwardly saying "allahu ackbar" when shooting and trying to pass it off as an ironic statement despite it not being funny
>goes on about miniscule bullshit like how a gun should feel in your hand or how the bore axis isn't to their liking despite not being able to hit shit
>hasn't zeroed their gun yet
>buys an assload of cheap slav garbage guns and tries to pass his collection off as "an interest in combloc weapons"
>this is actually because he cannot control his spending habits and gets an impulse to buy a new gun whenever he has only $150 lying around
>has a strange fascination with a country that thankfully no longer exists and longs for it despite being born a decade after it was taken over

Why is /k/ such fucking faggots??

>>34269861
wat?

>>34269677
More beer for you dude. Why do you care?

>>34268533
It's safer to shoot while drunk than drive a car, so I don't see the problem.

>>34269677
Booze and guns don't belong together. Also, beer is shit.

Whoever's in charge of creating new captchas needs to be castrated and locked in a dungeon.

>>34270103
>Booze and guns don't belong together. Also, beer is shit.

I don't even know where to start...

what is worse is new gun owners (mostly stupid millenials) who undermind the cause by supporting liberal causes like abortion and legal drugs.

>>34270237
Hey, there's nothing wrong with protecting your freedom of your own body. When you allow the government to regulate what can and cannot be consumed to your self, then it is one more facet that has gone too far.

>along with making a buck without a g man book being dropped on you

>>34270103
My shooting club has a bar

Granted they won't let you visit it first but there is nothing better then cleaning gats with Bros after shooting and sharing a couple pitchers

>>34270191
Liquor or go home.

>>34270237
Abortion means fewer brown people, and legal drugs means less money towards gangs.

Both of these things make America both safer and financially more secure.

Go be a loser somewhere else.

Yeah, how dare people support guns, shooting, or shooting guns

>>34270291
Longshot, but... Daniel Boone's?

>>34270291
That's a lot better than some dumb hicks going out and getting shitfaced while shooting but I still don't like the idea of people even handling guns while inebriated.

>>34270292
What are you, 14? Enjoy that handle of Tvarscki you paid a homeless person to buy for you buttfucker

>>34270331
casual light drinking =/= inebriated
>>34270784
In most cases, beer is a poorfag's/low-class white's alcohol.
A man of stature will enjoy a quality liquor, like a single-malt scotch, bourbon, or brandy.

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>>34268487
>Why are new shooters such faggots?
Because millennials are fucking trash. That's why.

They're the garbage generation.

>>34271063
>not drinking imported Sake from nihon
i laff at you roundeye

>>34271108
>Joel Stein
GODDAMMIT /pol/!

>>34268661
>>34268741
Yeah, but Ruger makes 'Western'-looking revolvers. AFAIK S&W doesn't. That's my only interest in Ruger. Those Vaqueros are quite nice, especially for that price.

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>>34268940
no, you literal nigger. we hate ruger because their CEO was instrumental in getting gun bans passed so his own shit could sell better within the new restrictions

>>34270784

Are you actually Russian speaking?

If so that's a good pun.

Tvar is a Russian word often used to mean like, 'vile monster'. So that would make Tvarski like, horrible vodka.

A

>>34268643

yeah in small amounts as a general CNS suppressant to quiet down small involuntary muscle movements.

not drinking in any amount that your judgment goes down.

>>34268504
fpbp
>>34268518
If anything Ruger is objectively better now than it ever was.

>>34268533
If you can't shoot drunk, you can't shoot. I always practice under adverse conditions.

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>>34271946
That CEO is dead now, though.

Hating Ruger is like loving Springfield. They aren't the same anymore.

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>>34272418
>That CEO is dead now

So, did they redesign the Mini-14 to accept STANAG mags yet !?

No they fucking did not. This is something that should be easy to do yet they refuse to even approach the very idea of giving up their proprietary mag bullshit.

Until they make the Mini-14 STANAG compatible they wont get a penny from me.

>>34270299
>Abortion means fewer brown people
Abortion means society doesn't view sex as personal which means people will have more and more sex which will lead to more brown babies.

stop abortion, legalize drugs, and raise taxes if you want fewer brown babies.

>>34268640
Mainly because Bill Ruger hated us and our rights, supported the Clinton AWB, supported import bans that protected his business, etc. Secondly, because any new Ruger design always seems to suck for a few years before they fix them with a Gen 2, rather than offering free or inexpensive repairs to the people who already bought the shitty Gen 1.

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>>34271946
cuck lock owner detected.

>>34272456
So because they won't go back on a firearm design that's been around for 50+ years (even more if we keep the actual M-14 in mind) because you have to purchase magazines that are readily affordable and plentiful (even Ruger brand Ruger mags are affordable) but different than AR mags, they're shit and bad?

Ooooh kay bud.

>>34272456
They just make AR-15s now so....yeah...

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>>34272456
>wahh
>the ar15 is 2 mainstream 4 me
>i wan snowflaek gun
>...
>wow wtf it doessnt take ar15 mags wtf wtf

Every fucking time.

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>>34272510
Yes.

>>34271186
I thought the same thing. /pol/ is always right.

>>34271108
Can someone shoop this to say the meme generation? Then it would be perfect.

>>34268518
This

>>34268518
The Ruger SR 556 is pretty damn good for the price. I got mine for 480

>>34271108
>Millennials are trash
>Previous generations wrecked the planet and ecosystem
>Now millennials have to fix your fuck ups and save us all
>But no, they are entitled and lazy
>It's this mentality that fucked everything up in the first place
Kys

>>34272510
M-14 isn't 5.56 and doesn't take STANAG mags i dont expect it to.
Mini-14 is 5.56 and is not an M-14
the Mini-14 was designed and sold long after the M16/AR 5.56 STANAG mag conventions were introduced and in high circulation.
there was no good reason not to make the Mini-14 STANAG compatible in the first place.
And its something they should have corrected a long fucking time ago, like how cell phone chargers finally became standardized after a few years of every manufacturer using a different plug.

Anything chambered in 5.56 today should automatically be designed to accept STANAG mags. to do otherwise in beyond retarded.

>>34273034
You and fans of the A-team are the only people who give a single fuck about the mini-14. Everyone else has moved on to the AR-15. the idea that Ruger should spend a single fucking dollar to upgrade that obsolete piece of shit is laughable.

>>34273167
So the defense of the mini 14 is that it's an obsolete piece of shit?

Really massages my marbles...

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>>34273232
Why does it need defending? It's the betamax of the rifle world...a competing platform that lost. Some retard brings it up as somehow proving that supporting any modern day Ruger product is tantamount to sucking Dianne Feinstein's pussy gets called on his bullshit and is STILL trying to find a mental hoop to jump through....fucking loser lol.

>>34273009
millenials are shit and were raised by the good goy's and their state institutions where nobody fails and TV where nothing has any consequences
it takes more than one generation to become trash.

>>34269861
>>34269908


Good part of /k/ was this way years back because surplus was cheaper. Poorfags stopped using interest in combloc as an exscuse for being poor and no impulse control when they couldn't get anything for less than $250. Now we have more honest poorfags with Sd9v, s&w ar15, Mossberg 500

>>34268487
What's wrong with Colt? You eternal nigger.

>>34273274
What ISN'T wrong with Colt these days?

It's not the same company that made ARs and Pythons.

>>34268518

My only complaint with Ruger is that I wish they'd make more "specialized" versions of their revolvers in the same manner that S&W seems to. I mean, tailored to a specific sport. The GP100 Match Champion was a big step, unfortunately I don't shoot SSR.

>>34273254
>wah wah wah!
>millenials are trash!
Keep whining, and blaming others- its really helpful.

>>34273326
keep deflecting and pretending you're not at fault for your shitty actions.

>>34273299
They still make a quality product.

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>>34269861
>not liking combloc weapons

Guess how I know you don't own any guns?

>>34268518

It bugs me how people on here shit on rugers semi auto pistols and never go into detail as to why.

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>77 replies and 10 images omitted

pathetic

>>34268640
I like my LC9s but goddamnit, why'd they have to plaster "READ MANUAL" and all sorts of mattress tag bullshit all over the side of it?

>>34270237
>government don't touch my guns! it's my right and my choice!
>government you can regulate whether I can have an operation done on my body or not, or whether or not I can ingest certain substances

are you fucking retarded

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>>34273655
Please do tell because I'm sitting near ten of them right now.

Quickly! Make fun of my Glocks!

>>34273832
This. The pick-and-choose mentality is literally unsustainable. You can't make a social system out of "destroy all things that make me uncomfortable" because there are more people in the world than you, and they're made uncomfortable by different things. Setting a precedent like that just means they'll do it back to you. It's cyclical; that's how we've gotten to a point where guns and drugs are "bad". Regardless of what the Constitution says, every liberty we enjoy is a measure of toleration by those who don't use it. As long as we try to pick and choose, the war continues. The government can be big or small. It cannot be small for you and big for the people you don't like. Not for very long. Those people vote too.

>>34273759
They don't go into detail because they'd have to admit there is nothing functionally wrong with the guns but they don't like the aesthetics of the design or Ruger's habit of putting liability warnings on their guns.

>>34273802
Same reason S&W will never remove the locks from all their guns: LAWYERS. Of course a billboard on the side of your gun can't break your gun like an internal lock so Ruger still wins.

>>34273919
That's a Beretta PX4 right? How do you like it? It looks like the ergos are great but something about the look of it pushes me away at the same time

>>34273333
>keep deflecting and pretending you're not at fault for your shitty actions.
You should really take you own advice there bud, you're embarrassing yourself

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>>34274025
It's the Compact Carry version. Love everything about it from the soft recoil, sights, ergos and it has an incredible 8lb DA trigger. The DA pull breaks right at where the SA pull does so the transition feels a little bit more consistent compared to other DA/SA guns.

I haven't been shooting or carrying it in the past few months since the Glock 19 carries much easier for me but I have around 2,000 rounds in them at this point.

I strongly recommend trying one out, don't judge a gun by its looks but more of how it can shoot and what it has to offer. You will not be dissapointed.

>>34273832
One is to protect the people from a tyrannical government, the other two are for being a degenerate piece of trash.

I don't think that we are such faggots desu. ThoughI only shot a PMM. Real slowly. Would welcome proper trigger tips aside from "don't jerk" and "don't expect it"

>>34274090
>Would welcome proper trigger tips aside from "don't jerk" and "don't expect it"

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?7708-Dry-Practice-Misconceptions-Updated-12-04-16

The "don't expect it" thing is pretty retarded honestly. If you intend to fire, why would you be surprised about it? This has never made sense to me.

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>>34268487
What is a good semi automatic 308 rifle? I currently have a 24/47 mauser bolt action, Remington shotgun, and a tiger 10/22 however I want a larger caliber rifle and the 308 seems fine. I am set on an AT style platform for my first purchase but looking for input from others. Been reading a bunch of forms and guns sites but always helps to get some more advice .

>>34274097
>The "don't expect it" thing is pretty retarded honestly. If you intend to fire, why would you be surprised about it? This has never made sense to me.

It's really for beginners to prevent snatching the trigger and anticipation of the shot leading to flinching. Once enough reps are down you have a base muscle memory of what a proper squeeze feels like then you can start actively picking when to break the trigger.

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>>34274090

>>34274066
>controlling what happens to your own body
>not being a tyrannical government

That goes for druggery as well, chap.

>>34274121
This problem vexes me as well. The FAL platform leaves so man "what-if"s and is not the lego set of the AR15. M14 is a bitch and a half to do anything other than keep it in out-of-the-box condition. SCAR is nice, but also lack of aftermarket. HK seems like strange territory as well to make a clear judgement.

>>34273832
Not him but I just don't support the State setting up tax paid abortion clinics

I don't care if they go see a private clinic

>>34274192
EXACTLY! So much information and options.
I was looking st a DB10 semi auto but still looking around.

>>34274066
I always wondered about the internal workings of a retarded, illogical right winger. Thanks for that insight. Stay hardliner my friend.

>>34274207
Forgot to say, AR15 in .308 also seems... lackluster when you're making that jump in caliber, but not having anything more unique than the next built-up AR.

Then again I was considering a VEPR in 7.62, but don't feel strongly enough to pull the trigger, so I'm still in the same boat as you.

>Need to find a buy-once .308 to attach my suppressor to.

>>34274259
I was thinking the 308 because I want a caliber larger than the 556, something that packs more power. A rifle I can use for recreation as well as any other need that could come.

>>34268487

It's just like how old shooters are faggots.

>Can't keep to themselves
>Judges every one else shooting, when their own is still shit.
>Think they know every thing.

Why I'm happy to go shooting in the woods. Don't have to deal with the old or the new retards.

>>34272404
>if you can't drive drunk, you can't drive
this is you
There's training, and then there's blatantly putting others at risk
This is why liberals want to ban guns

>>34274216

Another anon here, I vote right wing, but I wish they'd understand we'd be more popular if we let people do what they want to themselves as far as drugs goes. If they leave the house, you can get them for public intoxication (especially crack-heads) but let them do their own thing aside from that.

As for abortion, some people believe that you're killing a human being. I don't know why that's so hard for you to grasp.

>but it's a leech until it's born!

Well after it's born it still relies on you to feed it, take care of it, and not stab it to death. I don't know where I lean on the subject but you should respect their view on it.

>>34274339
>>if you can't drive drunk, you can't drive
I'll subscribe to that.

Also, there's a difference between having a good buzz and being blackout autopilot.

>>34274339

This

>>34274360

You can drive with "x" amount of alcohol in you legally. I don't think anons are talking about getting shitfaced and going shooting.

>>34273299
They make a good product and just have been sidelined by the government government watch Chris bartucci on YouTube u get a very different idea of colt and the kind of manufacturing quality they have

>>34274383
Yes, but x amount is two beers within an hour.

>or officer discretion

>>34274412

That's reasonable, Im 3 to 4 but im 210 pounds so theres less effect. I wouldn't put it into law though, there's already too many laws people can't remember to micromanage our lives.

>>34272456
If it's so easy go do it yourself. Not everything has to take AR mags you fucking autist. Fuck off.

>>34273167
And those of us stuck in places like NYC where it was the best option as a first rifle. I'd obviously prefer an AR but can't get it here.

>>34275751
You can get one you just have to get one with that fucky stock.

>>34268504
thread close

>>34268487
Alright, I'll bite.

Who is that spunk punk?

>>34268518
I honestly want one of the LC9 pros. It just looks so COMFY with non of the mag detach mechanical safety bullshit.

>>34268487
You sound like typical douche bag that everyone hates at the range.

>>34277104
Jokes on them! They don't know my shenanigans. I'm devilish like that.

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>>34268518
Can confirm. Ruger's offerings in the last few years have redeemed the shit Bill Ruger pulled.

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>>34268778
It's Bella Thorne from something called The Mother Hood.

>>34274121
>What is a good semi automatic 308 rifle
Vepr, man.

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>>34272968

>>34268487
How is current Ruger bad?

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>>34268940
>not buying a pre lock smith

>>34281319
Thank you anon, you are my greatest ally.

>>34271108
WTF these stupid news-niggers actually said that average american house has *85* fuckin photots of the kids in it. What kind of horseshit are they smoking?

>>34281370
Anti ruger shitposting because popular=bad

>>34282491
Or, pro-ruger shitposting because poorfags gonna defend their poor life choices.

>>34270103
Beer can be shit. It can also be very good. Please go try some good beer that isn't sold in 30 can packs.

>>34268518
Anyone excited for the new ruger 10mm 1911?

>>34282719
No.

>>34282530
>ruger is for poorfags
Don't you have anything to do beside saying stupid shit on the internet?

>>34268504
/thread