If we're being honest, can we admit that most of /k/ deep

>>34252350
no, not really.

I've been in a lot of violent situations, and I can say that i really wouldn't want to be put back in a situation where I'd need to use my gun. i wouldn't hesitate to use it when needed, but I have no real desire to be forced to do so.

besides, there's a shit ton of legal issues involved with that. I like my guns for hobby shooting. if i have to use my guns, I expect they'd be taken as "evidence" indefinitely. so anytime i use a gun, the situation needs to present risk greater than the cost of the gun at minimum.

so no, i don't ever want to use my gun.

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>>34252433
Not really. I haven't been exposed to much violence, and under all the SHALL I'm a bit of a Bambi fag. I don't like hurting things, or even really causing discomfort I don't have to. Frankly I'm a little worried I might hesitate if shit really went down, home invader or animal. I'd have an easier time of it if I had someone depending on me to protect them

>>34252350
Yeah shooting bad guy is totally worth it for all 3 seconds of it happening until you have to wait in your house with a dead body for the police to come and then pay thousands of dollars in legal bills that you could be spending on more guns.

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>>34252502
all of these, this ain't the wild west anymore bucko, you shoot some nigger who breaks into your house with a crowbar and suddenly you have the ACLU or the SPLC or some other jew law firm on your ass and the media hates you cuz he wuz a gud boi tryna get money for school clothes n shiet

nogunz here, i wish i was attacked because i fucking hate myself

here in my nogunz country 2 people has been shot dead because of mugging this week

>>34252350
No , I don't want to deal with the legal system post shooting. It's a last resort.

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>>34252515
But you would still enjoy it, wouldn't you?

>>34252523
maybe for literally 2/10ths of a second

this is why clay birds exist, much fun to shoot those and watch clay bird explode

>>34252350
Yeah, no.
It may sound cool at first to save the day from a bad guy, but if you aren't 10 and think about it for a while, you really don't want to be in a situation where you have to use your gun.

>>34252350
>this is what the antigunners think
Nope, I actually like my life. I'd rather not run the risk of it ending. Also, I'd rather not gain the almost certainly elevated level of paranoia associated with surviving a lethal encounter in the country and city that I typically feel safe. Killing or being in a firefight stays with you...in a bad way. Ask anyone ever.

>>34252350
Fuck that, I already went to Iraq. Don't want to feel like America is a war zone too. This is the reason I don't live in Chicago.

>>34252350
>can we
No. The answer is, "No".

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>>34252350
>can we admit that most of /k/ deep down really wants to be attacked so they have an excuse to use their guns?
no
I'm a pacifist and try to avoid any kind of violence as much as possible
it's the same reason why I didn't serve in the military, even though I know that we need one in emergency situations

one of my favourite sayings is written on the walls of a local museum
>"Kriege gehören ins Museum"
"Conflicts belongs to a museum"

>>34252350
I use mine a lot. Bottles, clays, paper, steel.

And no. I hope I never fire on another living being. I don't even like hunting. But I keep a loaded gun ready for home defense and would use it.

>>34252350
The only time I would have joy in using my shitty .22s like that would be in a Fallout type scenario to remove coyotes and giant roaches.

I remember there was a paper I read once about how most of the kills (made by foot soldiers) in WWII were either made by psychopaths or responsible older siblings, most of the other soldiers didn't really shoot at the enemy unless seriously threatened.

If anything, the only reason I keep a pistol under my pillow is because when I was younger I was fearful of the people I lived with.

>>34252350
Don't mistake the sadism of Hollywood Jew rats seeking to appeal to men's most primitive impulses ("Violence! Power! Sex!") for the true feelings of millions of peaceful, law-abiding, gun-owning individuals.

>>34252664
this is why I don't watch TV.

>>34252563
As a fellow german let me tell you 2 Things:
a) War is a Extension of the human nature and good for you
b) We need war just like evolution needs radioactivity so mutations ocure.

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It would be one of the last things I'd ever want to occur in my life. If I can go my whole life without that kind of conflict I'd be happy.

It doesn't mean I wouldn't be willing to act in stopping that from happening by nearly any means necessary. If it results in another persons death (in particular the assailant) than so be it.

I'll have a clear conscious on the matter, as that person had the chance/opportunity/choice to walk away and they decided not to walk away. They have to live (or die) for there actions and bear the responsibility therein.

So get off my property, I didn't invite you.

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No.
I won't get into any rationalizing or explanations.
Just no.

>>34252523
first guy here:

every time I've been in a violent situation, I go into an adrenaline fueled no-mind flow...

I don't really feel things like "enjoyment" (or anything else for that matter) in that state.

afterwards, it's just jitters and then an adrenaline crash, so no...it's not all too enjoyable overall.

>>34252696
I will give you the human nature one

Sometimes I fantasize about it as something that would rip me out of my humdrum life and make things exciting

I also wonder how I would actually perform in that situation. No amount of training can guarantee that in the actual situation, you won't piss your pants and fumble your gun. I hate people who think they're stone cold killers when they've never been in that situation. You can't know until you're there. So I'm curious about how I would actually perform.

There's also a certain amount of glamour to imagining myself as "the guy who saved the day."

In reality it would upset my life terribly and I'd probably wish it had never happened.

Do I like fantasizing about it? Hell yes.

Before I was into guns I would daydream about some psychopath breaking into the classroom with a machete and how I would beat his ass using a table or something.

When I'm walking into a mall or busy streat I fantasize about some snackbars starting a killing spree and how I would disarm one and proceed to operate the fuck out of his pals with his AK and then do interviews and shit.

Now that I have guns I indeed fantasize about someone breaking in and how I would save the day with my single shot .22 (did I mention I'm a euro?).

Emphasis on "fantasizing". I don't want any of this to really happen because I know I would get my ass handed to me due to lack of training and physical fitness, not to mention the legal trouble.
At least I try to be situationally aware.

>>34252350

Anyone that wants to be in self defense shooting hasn't learned enough about it.

>I'm not looking to get sued in civil court.
>I'm not interested in being a target for an ambitious liberal prosecutor.
>I don't want to re-carpet/paint my house.
>I don't want to be portrayed as "the shooter", while the bad guy is labelled the "victim of shooting"

I've also been in enough simunition classes to know that skills are crucial, but a lucky shot from an untrained idiot can still ruin your life

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>>34253383
Good news is, as a euro you'll probably have a chance to do that. And get snackbarred in the process.

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>>34252350
It sounds like most of you want to shoot someone, but you're afraid of Johnny Law, right? If shooting a person will put you in some hot water... How badass would it be if your neighbor's pitbull got out and started attacking people? The dog would be threatening your life and you get to shoot it down. If the dog truly is on the attack, the chances of any lawsuit sticking are slim and most animal cruelty is only a misdemeanor if you fuck up. God, I'd love to shoot a dog. Who's with me?

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>>34252350
Fuck no.

Even in a castle doctrine and stand your ground state, I'd still likely have to go to court for any self-defense shooting. Whether in my home or in public.

I don't want to have to pay a bunch of legal fees.

I don't want any of my guns potentially ending up in an evidence locker for any length of time either.

Also, if I have to shoot someone outside of my house, I won't have hearing protection on. That's NOT going to be fun.

Violence in movies is like how they show copious amounts of elegant smoking and then you go into a casino and it smells like ass and everyone smoking is gross looking or foreign. Not at all what it's like and anyone who owns a gun and isn't retarded will understand that soon after their first purchase. It's not fun entertaining the thought of killing another person.

>>34253659
Right here. Shit would be terrible, but the point of being ready to defend yourself is so that it's not even worse.

>>34252350
Hell no. That shit is scary. If I want to shoot people l can get those urges out online where it's safe. I own a gun for historical and aesthetic reasons and because it's better to have and not need than need and not have.

>>34252350
>If we're being honest

then you would admit that your shitposts are really lame

>>34253659
Have you never shot without hearing protection? I swear you fags act like you're going to need to be hospitalized if you shoot a few rounds without earpro. You will get more hearing damage from weedeating/edging/mowing/leafblowing without hearing protection than a few gunshots.

>>34252350
I'm sorry anon, but you're a psychopath.

>>34252433
The only people who want to be in those situations are the people who have never been in them.

I'd prefer to not risk my life for some thrill

>>34253477
has anyone invented a truck cannon yet?

>>34252350
Nope. Much like impregnation fetish - dealing with the aftermath ain't worth the hassle.

>>34252696
>b) We need war just like evolution needs radioactivity so mutations ocure
The problem there is that when you send the men to war the cowards stay home and reproduce.

>>34252350

No, fuck no. Enjoy being arrested and convicted because the police went through your phone and saw you posted here and said the N-word two months ago in a private conversation to a friend.

>>34253061
please rephrase that sentence, so i can understand what you're trying to say

>>34252433

Holy shit. You are such a fucking badass!

Upvoted sir!

Well Larped.

>>34252350
Personally I'm waiting for the rule of law to break down

>>34254868
I get you're point but on a large scale the most advanced society prevails. And lets be honest, infantry usually isnt made up of the brightest minds of our generation.

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I don't hope to shoot/kill someone in self defense. I more so hope that I won't hesitate for a split second in the moment of truth when a lethal threat presents itself.

You can have the nicest and most consistent sub second draw and be able to pull off .20 splits. This does not matter if you hesitate because you do not know the law or have some sort of pre-established threshold for when you deem lethal force as a reasonable measure, you're going to waste that precious initial 1-3 seconds that are the most important in a self defense encounter.

>>34253586
Man, I really wish a dog would put a stock on a pist-I mean, I wish person would break into my house so I could see if all this training pays off.

Have you ever felt any uncertainty over anything important in your life? Now imagine that same feeling, but your freedom for the next 25 years or rest of your life is the thing that you're uncertain about, and even though the other person put himself in that situation, you will still think about the fact that you made a decision (even if it was justified) that now means that the other person will never even do something as simple as wake up again or speak to someone again. You can act as tough as you want, but you will have some sense of regret in the end even if you are 100% justified in shooting.

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>>34252350

I honest-to-god just want a global SHTF apocalypse to happen, I don't give a fuck about anything else other than plinking.

I am a massive bleeding heart and I never want to inflict any kind of suffering on anyone. I enjoy shooting, I enjoy the look and feel of weapons, but the primary reason I have them is to protect others. I'm actually a paraphilic masochist though so the thought of someone actually stabbing or shooting me is incredibly arousing.

>>34252350
I day dream about killing snackbars

I wish i could kill one and stop a terror attack, but i'm not allowed to CC and my french government would most likely cuck me. "There ain't no french culture" "Rapeslam is religion of peace" "you gonna spend life in jail with snackbars to learn their peacefull ways"

>>34252350
Think about being in jail. Think about not being able to sleep in your own bed, being able to eat your own food, and being questioned by police for hours on end. Think about having to argue against a state prosecutor who is trying to send you to prison, and think about spending years doing it whilst having the threat and its uncertainty hang over your head.

The adrenaline of the fight, the despair of it's outcome as you watch the person die who was trying to kill you: you don't want to shoot someone in self defence. You don't want to shoot anyone, ever.

>>34252523
I don't think so. Even in the most clear cut self defense scenario shooting someone would be a pain in the ass.

As for the impact of it, I don't think that I would feel bad if I had to defend myself using lethal force.

Honestly the only reason I've ever want something like that (and I really don't) is to see how I'd react to killing another human being and see how i'd react in a situation like that in general.

i don't want to be attacked. i just want to execute. and select: send the nigger and the sandnegrer to cattle waggon, quarry or desinfection showers. if thats not possible i'd neckshoot them all day. or even kill'em with a hammer.

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>>34253659
>>34255506
>I'd still likely have to go to court for any self-defense shooting

>he doesn't live in Florida where civil suits are automatically dismissed in self defense cases

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>>34255741
>not living in the rest of the world where civil suits are thrown out whenever something is a clear provable case of your own wrongdoing (e.g. self-defence cases)

you know the rest of the world makes fun of america for how constantly your people sue eachother frivolously, right?)