How do I convince my very anti-gun family to allow me to have

>>34244409
Mom, dad, I will get a job and stop watching porn if you let me buy this gun.

>>34244409
>very anti-gun

You can't.

>>34244409
Promise to feed and walk it every day.

>>34244418
I have a job, can make no other promises
>>34244420
I can try, though

>>34244409
Move out

If your parents don't want guns in their house no matter how much they trust you, you aren't getting a gun in the house

Mom dad, look what I bought.

>>34244450
Don't do this. You gotta talk with your parents first about it

Prove you're a responsible gun owner. Take some pistol rifle safety courses, get certified and procedurely your worth

If they don't want guns for political reasons no number of good gun safety education will over come their infinite ignorance

>>34244464
>procedurely
Prove

Fucking phone

>>34244409
I'm assuming you can't conceal a safe

>buy rifle
>buy a hard case
>lock rifle in hard case
>put hard case in closet or under bed

quit being a fag and move out, then get your own guns.

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>>34244409
>"mom, dad. I bought a gun."
>"not on anon! get it out this house this instant!"
>"what are you going to do about it, i'm the one with a gun"

Literally the purpose of the 2nd amendment, to fight a tyranny governing over you.

On a smaller scale of course.

Phrasing is important. Tell them it's an "antique" or "vintage".

Are they interested in history at all?

Play up the historical significance and interest of the firearm.

>>34244409
It is better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

When they finally do find out that you own a Turk Mauser tell them it is a vintage rifle, and you bought it because vintage surplus always appreciates in value.

This strikes me a little like a scenario in which I, a very pro-gun guy, am told by my 18-year old that he or she desperately wanted me NOT to have guns in the house. What would be the proper response there?

I can be "understanding" and give up my beliefs and rights in my own house, out of affection for my teenager, or I can say "sorry, this is the way it is, when you have your own place you can do as you wish."

As much as I disagree with your parents' take, which you describe as "very anti-gun," they're completely entitled to exercise that belief in their own house.

I do hold out hope that maybe you can convince them that responsible gun ownership isn't a bad thing. Print out some research (or better yet, get a collector's antique firearms book with color photos) on the history of the gun as a collectible and historical piece, along with info on a small ammo safe that you could store the ammo separately in, and show them how a trigger or bolt lock work. Promise that those items won't come off the gun in their house, and stick to it. Show respect and responsibility and that you've done your due diligence, don't turn it into an argument - you will lose (and should).

Under no circumstances should you do something like this without their approval. It just isn't cool, and this is one of those times where if "no" is the answer, your only option is to wait and be relaxed and respectful about it, bring it up nonconfrontationally from time to time, or wait until you get your own place.

>>34244409
You don't need to, you're 18, you can buy the gun yourself.
Wait, don't tell me, you're one of those lazy fuck kids that never worked when you were a kid, am in the right ballpark?

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>>34244409
Accuse them of Islamophobia/racism and shame them into accepting your raifu.

welp

You're not 18, are you?

>>34244422
Kek

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>>34244409
You need to save up to move out. Then buy guns.

You're 18, do something with your life, don't be a leach.

>Let me

When you become independent that's not an issue

>>34244751
>buys apartment
>apartment doesn't allow guns
wow good job lmao
>inb4 just buy a house lmao

>>34244409
Tell them it's a valuable antique selling below it's worth, that you've wanted to find a deal like this for however, point out it's like the furthest thing ever from being an 'assault rifle', and if you need to, promise them that you'll never keep ammo in the house so there's no risk of accidents.

Don't buy that as a first gun. Ammo is too expensive and hard to find. I assume you don't have a lot of disposable income. Look for 7.62x39 or 5.56. Ammo can be bought for 5 dollars a box.

>>34244767
>"Hey manager, I've got guns in my apartment btw, and I like to get fucked in the ass by a lot of men!!"
That's pretty much you, an open book.
What he doesn't know can't kill him.

Call it a muslim mauser and play the race card.

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>>34244767
>Buys apartment

Pic related. It's you.

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>>34244522
Absolutely this
Tell them the most retarded yet amazing story ever
Tell them its deactivated
Tell them its a wallhanger
Tell them you dont like guns too but just want it because of its history

Because TRYING against antigunners is just a huge waste of time/energy

>>34244767
>>apartment doesn't allow guns
That's not a thing and wouldn't be legal anywhere in the US.

>>34244767

>doesnt allow guns.

Wanna know how I know you're from a shithole?

For me all I did was told them I was getting my rifle and a very secure gun locker for it and my ammo. They still had a problem with that so I settled it by setting it up at my buddies garage. Only I have access, it's not in the house, and it is only a 2 minute drive to pick it up. They couldn't think of any other reasonable way to shoot it down, pun intended.

>>34244507
I laff'd

>>34244567
>>34244522
These.
>>34244640
Fuck off its my house.

>>34244800
Some apartments place it as a clause in the lease agreement. If you sign it and still bring a gun then they have the right to term your lease. Nothing is illegal on either side it's just the terms of a contractual agreement.

>>34244883
So in the off chance you have to use it to end a home invader you also have to move. No big deal.

>>34244883
I literally don't believe you. You may believe it, but I'm 100% sure it's because you heard about it somewhere before, and not because you've ever seen it in a lease. People own guns in apartments in New York fucking City, capitol of Blue America. If they couldn't ban them there they're not doing it anywhere.

>>34244929

http://www.allpropertymanagement.com/blog/2013/05/21/can-landlords-limit-their-tenants-second-amendment-right-to-bear-arms/

>>34244929
Leases can also limit pets and visitors. Why would you think a gun would be any different?

>>34244898
Well if you followed your lease you wouldn't have the gun while there. So you'd have to use something else. Do you think the apartment owner cares? They'll just keep your money and rent out to someone else.

"I can get that Turk bolt rifle now, and learn the art of carefully hitting the bullseye with every shot just like our soldiers did in the Korea War, in WW2, in WW1, in the Indian Wars, in the Civil War, in three centuries of frontier life... or I will just have to save the money for a couple more years and then I can buy any assault rifle I want and learn how to shoot yihaa style."

>>34244986
Why would you ever follow a lease like that. You'd just sign it and have a gun anyways.

You know you're on /k/ right? If you're the type of person that wouldn't just have one anyway, I suggest you find a different board. Like I said, worst case scenario, they make you move out.

>>34244929

"No Firearms" was a clause in my lease from my slumlord back in the day

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>>34244507
Perfect

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>>34244507
The 2nd working as intended.

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>>34244640

>a little like a scenario in which I, a very pro-gun guy, am told by my 18-year old that he or she desperately wanted me NOT to have guns in the house. What would be the proper response there?

>"Why? Are you afraid it's going to jump out and shoot you? Are you or your friends getting drunk or high and are afraid of accident?"Are you one of those druggies?!"
>takes off belt

That's how.

He's right though OP, you should move out. Then pass them off with your new collection when they come over.

>>34244971
Because having a dog is not a constitutionally protected rights. Landlords can put whatever the hell they want in a lease agreement, whether that lease will hold up in court is an entirely different matter and there is already extensive legal precedent relating to this exact issue.

Landlords can't do shit about you having guns, that's not to say they can't make up some other reason to get you out though.

>>34245721
m8 the constitution protects you from the state not society and individuals. Unless the state you live in has a law barring landlords from banning guns in their properties it IS perfectly legal for them to put a clause in the lease. And the only state I know for sure has a law like that is Minnesota.

>>34244409
Just buy it, say that you wanted to learn about the history of the ottoman empire.

Op, have they told you in no uncertain terms that you cannot have a gun? If so, move out. If they just claim to be anti gun but haven't said you can't own one, just buy one anyway and don't hide it. Be a fucking man.

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>mfw revealed that I had guns in the house to both of my parents after being asked where I went when I went to a shooting class
>mfw I have +5,000 rounds in my room and 8 guns
>mfw they first heard I carried a gun and flipped out

Sorry mommy!!!

>>34244562
>>34246081
This

Approach it from an entirely historical standpoint rather than a firearms standpoint, even viciously anti-gun people seem to be a little more lenient when it comes to "muh history"

>>34246230
How old anon? For me it went something like this 3 years ago.

>always wanted a gun
>finally turn 18
>use paycheck from first school job to buy a mauser.
>feel real euphoric holding a beautiful one
>come with parents to pick it up
>theyre anti gun and visually disgusted with
>dad: why didnt you buy a rifle with a bipod?
>take it out in a towel and put it in a trunk
>take it home and admire it
>that gun will be my son's first gun.
>8mm powah

>>34244640
>an adult on /k/

>>34244640
I think your best bet is staging a false flag home invasion showing why it's needed

>its just a wall hanger mom, its so old it probably doesnt even work

there you go retard.

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>>34246272
I'm 22 now.
>got into shooting when my dad took me to the range to rent guns and shoot when I was 17
>slowly became more and more interested
>wanted to buy a gun and asked my parents
>"no"
>get a job first
>get job and save money
>do it
>"no"
>buy AR15 anyways at 19

Gonna sell off most of my unused shit and save more money so I can move out. They're cool with it now though.

>>34244796
Popping in for my .02 cents. People buy apartmentsome in NYC. I guess they would be condos. But they're called apartments.

Tell your parents you're gay and need it for protection in trumps neo Nazi America.

>>34244409
Get a better gun.turk mauser is the shittiest of mausers.

>>34244409

Best you can do is ask. If they say no, get it when you move out.

Yes, it's shitty.

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>>34244409
Do research. Make sure you have ALL the detes before you buy, then approach them. "Parental figures 1 and 2, possibly 3 due to the past 8 years. I have done extensive research and am now purchasing x firearm for recreational and defense purposes, both private and public. My decision is made and non negotiable - I approach you only to make you aware of the situation. If you are hellbent in your illogical idiosyncratic ways, the worst and only thing you can do to me is evict me from your home. Your love is unconditional - prove me wrong."

You are an adult. You're no longer requesting permission - you are informing them.

>>34244409
Buy it anyways, keep in guitar case along with everything else gun related, shove in closet

>>34246433
This, but dont say it like some autistic robot like this guy posted

>>34246433
No matter how much data and facts you bring it won't matter to fun grabbers.
There has even been studies that show how people tend to entrench their beliefs even further when confronted with facts that disagree with what they believe.

>>34246695
This, just get a hardshell bass guitar case and keep it locked up.

>>34244409

Tell them you won't keep ammo in the house, or look for a local range that offers storage.

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>>34244507

>>34244507
pls do this and record

or just this>>34246305

>>34244409
I would just buy it and hide it if they're not gonna let you, although it is a pretty bigass gun to hide. You could bullshit them and say it's deactivated or something too or try to get them to understand your historical appreciation of it.

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>>34244507

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>>34244929
No, where I live I'm not allowed to have firearms in the house as per the agreement. Even BB guns are a no-go.
>Mfw there's 5 here anyway

>>34246410
I own one and it's a great rifle. Works perfectly fine for rabbit hunting and has an amazingly smooth bolt. The turks apparently took amazing care of the guns, even if they weren't as precisely machined as other mausers. Having a magazine cutoff to dick around with is fun too.

>>34244507
kek'd

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>>34244507

>>34244409
>>I'm 18 years old
>>Fresh out of high school

Go to fucking college, get a degree that translates into a career.

>>34248837

fuck that, go to trade school, get out in 2 years, have a skill that translates into a career.

And if it's welding, get into underwater welding any way you can and that translates into a career and unlimited money, forever.

>>34244409
my parents are ok with me having guns I just get a lecture about financial responsibility every time I tell them I am buying one, (tried the waters with a 300$ 870 and still got the lecture) so i just buy them and sneak them in, this is how I ended up throwing a wasr through an open window at 10PM. Maybe in your case getting a stack on cabinet first would be a good idea and keep ammo at a friends house until you move and convince your folks there is no way the gun could fire somehow, then take them shooting eventually, at least expose them to your hobby so that even if they are anti gun they are at least a little bit more comfortable around guns.

>>34248849

STEM is viable.
Something in medical beyond "math is haaaard" nursing is OK
Lawyers should be purged in flame but they make money.

Otherwise trade school, yes.

I bought my first rifle at like 19 and hid it in my perennially overflowing dirty clothes hamper. The undies smelled slightly of chink SKS cosmoline but my mom and stepdad had no idea.

>muh house muh rules

This was in part because their marriage was falling apart, and he was getting more unstable. I worried he'd get physically violent, but he never did.

Later she discovered he spent most of her life savings on hookers. That was a fun time...

Later I told her about the rifle after the divorce, she appreciated the sentiment even if at the time it would have bothered her.

>>34244409
You should be more concerned with getting your own place before you start buying guns. Highschool is over, it's time to move out.

>>34248849
Have fun with your career induced heart problems m8.

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>>34244409
Cyanide.

>>34250520

rest of us gonna die of diet induced heart problems

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>>34244507

My pops bought me a 10/22 for my 14th Bday. My mom almost shit. He told her he had his first .22 when he was 12, and she reluctantly agreed to the gift if he took me out to the range and taught me gun safety.
We picked up one of my friends, and drove out to the town dump. On the way, he made us recite the 4 rules and read the 10/22 manual and the manual for his Ruger Mark II that he loaned us.
When we got to an obvious shooting site--brass all over the place-- he watched us run a few mags, and then sat in the car, read the newspaper and listened to a ball game on the radio.
We ran through two bricks of .22s, shot up a bunch of bottles, cans, old appliances, and killed a couple rats.

Good times, good times.

>>34244409
Move out.

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I got my older sister to """""gift""""" me an SKS and a makarov when I was 16. Didn't tell my parents until I already had both guns and ammo in my room under my bed and in my dresser.
My dad thought it was pretty damn cool, and was only slightly peeved because I spent a decent amount of money without him knowing. My mom just didn't give a shit. It was fun showing my family how to load the SKS and mak, how to use it, etc.

>>34244409
History

talk about galoppoli

>>34244507
That's only if OP is American

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>>34251369

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>>34244507

>>34244409
Move out shit head.

Buy it and sort it out later

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>>34244507
>"what are you going to do about it, I'm the one with the gun"
10/10

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>>34244507
This is the /k/ I know and love.

Buy it. Its a felony if they take it and dispose of it. If you want to deal with all that its on you, do you think theyll kick you out if you show up with a rifle?

>>34244640
>My 18 year old doesn't want a gun
Compromising is he best solution just keep it out of plain sight and you will be fine. When ahmed comes to rape you both and you put a bullet between the eyes maybe he will appreciate it more.

>>34244767
There's already been a supreme court ruling on this asshat, it's illegal for a landlord to ban guns

>>34244409
You can't unless you have your own place

>>34254755
he doesnt have to compromise shit, thats the good part of taking care of a child, paying for his food, education and housing.

the same goes for anons antigun parents, if they dont want it, anon has no right of introducing a gun into their home.

i mean, it was the whole point of the post you quoted, the one person who did not need any advice in the whole thread.

Tell them your going to use as an example for a anti-gun speech at your university or school.

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>>34244507
top jej

>>34244507
Include me in the screencap.

>>34244409
point it at them

>>34244409
Why would you ask? You're an American, it's your right. When I wanted a gun but lived with my parents I went and bought one and brought it home. It was an AK too, you should be able to smuggle in a Mauser and use the "piece of history" excuse.

>>34244409
Move out.

Bumping quality thread

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>>34244507

>>34244409
tell your family to stop being liberal cucks

>>34244522
>dad stutters for a few seconds while mom just blankly stares
>they go about their business muttering about pieces of paper and that goddamn second
>rule house with iron dick

>>34262348
Goddamn misclicks I've ruined everything, stupid phone posting.

>>34244409
Move out, get an apartment, become independent and buy it anyway.

>>34244767
Fuck off europoor

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>>34244507
My sides

>>34255067
Why the hell should any sensible adult leave his hobby behind because a millennium faggot fells emasculated

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>>34244507

>>34244507
Any other answer is predicated on the incorrect notion that this one isn't correct.

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>>34246305
I did this with a few friends over the years. Went to their place, banged on the door loudly as fuck with a large hammer (without doing any damage), left a small hammer and a screwdriver I had bought for it on the scene.

Then I ran away and went home.
They all gut guns a few months later, except one that moved out anyway.

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>>34244409
You're 18 years old, right?

You're legally an adult.

>buy the gun

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>>34244409
>18
>done with school
>still has to beg mommy and addy for a rifle
Kek I see your cuck parents raised a good little jr one. Why don't you get a job and move out? It's not that hard dummy.

buy one

>>34244409
Well im going to university for a criminal justice major my I got a free pass. Will you be unifag with me Anon?

>>34244797
Much as I'd like to agree with you, and I admit it is frustrating, converting an anti-gunner is a great feeling. Has to be accomplished by degrees, but it's like hitting dead center of the 500-yard gong when they loosen up enough that they start to want a gun of their own.

Converting a noguns to a hasguns is easy. Converting a moderately anti-gunner to a hasguns just takes time. The violently anti-gunner folks probably already have a gun (but won't admit it) because they think they might need it against the 2A folks.

>>34246433
This is ultimate bullshit. If I'm the parent, it's MY FUCKING HOUSE and if you don't like it you can launch your sorry ass into the real world.

In my case, I'd be thrilled if my kid wanted a gun, but by age 18, he or she would probably already have a few. But let's say it's something I don't approve of - my kid had better hope he or she doesn't come across with some smug shit like "I'm not asking permission, I'm informing you of my decision." I don't give a shit if you want a tattoo on your gooch, if you're living in my house and I say no, it'll be the most expensive fucking tattoo in history if I find out.

>>34246433
>he bought the "muh unconditional love" meme

Kek

>>34249745
Now that part is reasonable. Parents are ok with you having it, but it's just their job to tell you it's stupid to spend your money on it while they're supporting your ass. Sneaking some extra funs and ammo in isn't a sin. Prepares you for what you're going to have to do when you're a married anon anyway. Your wife may not mind your guns, may even like them, but she sure as hell will be able to think of "better" uses for "our" money.

>>34254890
False. You made the assertion, prove me wrong.

>>34244409
I've converted to islam. I am representing my new heritage by purchasing this tool of Allah' glorious will.

How dare you question my decision?! My choice is God's will.

>>34263991
Read, man, read. You missed the point entirely.

The "what if my 18-year old didn't want guns in the house" scenario was an analogy to parallel the one where the 18-year old DOES want them and the parents don't. The parents may CHOOSE to compromise and say "I'll put my own beliefs on hold and get rid of their guns" or "I'll put my own beliefs on hold and let you have one in my house," depending on who's on what side. The point is, it's their house, and they are under no obligation to do so, and they can tell their brat to fuck off and get his own place if he doesn't like it.

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>>34244409

>get into guns
>In otherwise liberal Nogunz household
>of age to buy rifle
>go to a Cabelas and pick up an on sale old Winchester .22 for cheap
>get home
>They notice rifle
>"ANON, WE TOLD YOU WE DONT WANT GUNS IN THIS HOUSE"
>lecture continues
>Tell them that I am responsible with it and will only take it out to clean it or take it to the range among other things
>Mother still angry that I "disrespected them" - Father only took her side lightly because it made her feel better
>And so it went into my closet and they didnt make much fuss
>come some months later
>see a Yugo SKS at a local shop I looked around - lots of other nice older rifles, but the sks was a good deal and i always heard of it as a staple and overall reliable slavshit
>Spend 15 minutes to go grab it
>come home
>Same ordeal, but less of a reaction
>Father then tags along with me to the range later on

If you REALLY want it, buy it and then show them first hand how you can be trusted with it and be responsible with it. Worked for me anyways.

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>>34244507
>>"what are you going to do about it, i'm the one with a gun"

>>34244409
Your 18 fuck them just get it

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>>34244409
Talk to them about it and as some anons have suggested take a gun safety course with your own money and prove to them that you are worthy of trust and responsibility.

However, if they still don't want a gun in their house, you have to respect that. It is their house after all, no matter how ignorant and politically-charged their reasoning is for it.

>>34244409
Are you an ausfag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VktJNNKm3B0

>>34257550
Stop advising anon to ruin his meager finances as an 18 year old

>>34268859
Kek'd