With so many nice 9mm handguns on the market why would you

>>34241238
Because the others are expensive, heavy, lack the aftermarket, aren't as durable, and too big.

>>34241238
Glocks are the best handguns, that's why.

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>>34241238
I didn't.

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>>34241238
bc I can put a RMR on a Glock but I can't put shit on that pos 92.

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>>34241268
>aren't as durable

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>>34241238
Why wouldn't you own many different pistols?

>>34241294
Heh yeah, good one.

>>34241283
After you change out every piece on them, maybe

>Because "X" instructor on YouTube has one, and I wanna be him so that's why i bought a Glock!

I prefer my VP9 but have a G22 because my department forces us to carry it.

>>34241238
Modularity, reliability, and parts commonality. Literally all that it takes for a gun to be a good purchase.

>>34241294
you know full well a 92 would have shattered in this test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CuFf5h17L4

but keep hating on the established staple gun, it sure will help you get a seat at the cool kids table I'm certain....

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>>34241322
Well memed friendo. I'm sure SOF changes out everything.

>>34241386
>choosing your pistol based off of the pistol riflemen pick

>>34241386
>DUDE SPECIAL OPS USES IT LMAO

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>>34241414
>missing the point that hard

>>34241322
I bought a Glock 26 and carry it stock. Not really sure what the obsession is with "upgrading" everything.

>>34241238
>inb4 inrange meme test

>>34241445
Why is it okay to bring up other mud tests against pistols you don't like to justify your purchase, but you call it a meme test if it shows your pistol failing?

>>34241423
That was the point of his(your) post though.

>>34241467
Jeeezus, I just wanted the inb4 you turbo faggot.

>>34241475
You got a (you) instead double nigger.

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>>34241291
Trijicon makes dovetail RMR mounts for goddamn near everything. You can even get dovetail mounts for the standard M1911 milspec dovetail and the A1/A2 carry handles. About the only major modern handgun I haven't seen dovetail mounts for is the Beretta PX4.
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=AC32055

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>>34241530
and in what parallel universe is that shit practical?

How many goddamn threads on this do we need per day?

>>34241238
>Made in USA version

>not Italian

wew

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>>34241551
It's still better than this.

>>34241551
You never asked for it being practical. Just to have it done.

Way to move the goal post asshole.

>>34241582
only marginally. it's both equally irrelevant for carry.

>>34241604
Not if you use a "speed cut" OWB holster. It's also a pretty good option for suppressor use.

>>34241601
>Way to move the goal post asshole.

no, I just wasn't expecting somebody to be intellectually dishonest enough to suggest a rear sight mounted RMR plate was a legit option for a carry gun. sorry.

>>34241625
A 92 can be a carry gun. Also, why anyone would put an RMR on a carry gun is beyond me.

>>34241608
sorry friend I have one on my G26 and carry it apendix no problem. your italian abomination can't compete.

>>34241646
>A 92 can be a carry gun.

lol

>Also, why anyone would put an RMR on a carry gun is beyond me.

bad/old eyes? just better and faster target aquisition? better und varying light conditions? there are numerous reasons and the trend is going towards it. 5-10 years from now most cc guns will probably have a red dot of some kind on them....

>>34241678
I carry a 92A1 as backup. Mak as primary.
>yfw I'm a manlet

>>34241678
There's other options than carrying AIWB, high speed.

Also, not being an asshole and genuine on this question, but aren't you worried that the court may use that against you? Having an RMR, I mean. I could see a lawyer having a field day with that.

Because Glock currently makes the best 10mm pistol on the market

>>34241715
>I carry a 92A1 as backup. Mak as primary.
go troll somebody else with your lies....

>>34241647
I'm on the side of RMRs, but this is a comparison between the G17 and G19 and Beretta 92, not the little babby Glocks (which suck for shooting unless you have X-grips or Pearce grips or 12-round mags). The 92 is pretty clunky, but it soaks up recoil and holds 18+1 if you use good Mec-Gar mags and not the shitty Checkmate sandtraps.

>>34241721
>There's other options than carrying AIWB, high speed.

like what? show my how you carry that rmred abomination pls, I'm interested...

>Also, not being an asshole and genuine on this question, but aren't you worried that the court may use that against you? Having an RMR, I mean. I could see a lawyer having a field day with that.

Ofc I'm worried but not because of the RMR. What's wrong with me wanting to make the shot as accurate as possible? this just ensures I don't accidentally hit somebody who should not be shot.

>>34241723
>not converting a Beretta 96 or USP 40 to 10mm
I still want to see a P227 in 10mm.

>>34241238
Really though...the Beretta 92 is an awesome handgun...anyone who owns or has even fired one should understand.

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>>34241724
>troll
>lies
Ok. I guess your right.

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>>34241780
>mfw I had a catastrophic malfunction with an M9 in the army

I know, I know army Berettas were beat to shit, but still...

>>34241791
well congrats, you're the most special special snowflake I've seen on k

>>34241844
You must be new here

>>34241830
It wouldn't be any better with Glocks. Mrgunsngear pointed out the main problem with US Army maintenance- they don't change out the recoil springs when they need to.

>>34241830
Zavala?

>>34241767
You would think the 96 would suffer reliability issues. As for the HK, I think they're ugly as sin. Glock 20 was actually designed around the 10mm cartridge. Sig P220 looks very nice and is probably a high-quality firearm, but it is 1200 dollars and only has an 8 round magazine. I paid 475 for my glock 20 and it came with 2 15 round magazines. The slide is thick as fuck

>>34241977
>USPs are ugly but not Glock

I mean everyone has their opinion but I mean alright.

>>34242018
Yeah no I get what you're saying 100%, but Glocks just have their own aesthetic in an iconic kind of way. It's a block gun, but they manage to pull it off

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>>34241977
>HK ugly
>glock good

>>34242064
Fair enough.

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>>34241238
>why would you buy a Glock?

I wouldn't. I swear I tried a couple times but I just can't do it.

>>34241723
This. I own 4 Glocks, and none of them are 9x19 because I have a CZ for 9mm

>10mm G20SF Gen3
>10mm G29SF Gen3 subcompact
>.45 G30 compact
>.357 SIG G23 Gen2 mid-size/compact

I had to convert the G23 Gen2 to .357 SIG because I wanted a mid-size doublestack .357 SIG in a reliable system but I don't like the finger grooves of the G32 or any of the Gen3/4 mid-size Glocks

>>34242066
who is this ejaculate draculet?

>>34242099
>but I don't like the finger grooves
then sand them down.

>>34242118
>modifying a serialized part
i hope you know that's a felony

>>34242127
>i hope you know that's a felony
so stipplers are felons? news to me.

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>>34242099
>G30
>not a 97b or bd
Explain.

>>34242139
yes. it's only a matter of time before the long arm of the law catches up with those ne'er-do-wells

>>34242127

>putting grip tape on things is now a felony

How much of a dumbass are you, really?

>>34242177
>putting an accessory on something is "modifying" it
who's the dumbass now?

>>34241678
Im 5,10 145 pounds i cc a 92fs no problem

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>>34242201
My nigga, 6' 180lbs 3 o'clock.

>>34242118
I used to have a stippled G21 Gen4 about 3 years ago and I didn't like the way it felt in my hands or the way it looked. I ended up selling it and getting another gun.

I don't mind shooting the Gen2 G23, because it's pretty comfortable and feels sleek. I've heard the Gen5 Glocks are supposed to have no finger grooves but I'm not 100% positive if that's true or not. I think they should have an option for multiple groove/no grooves like the Gen4 back straps.

>>34242144
I was just listing the Glocks I own, although I don't own a 97 I do have a SAR/EAA K2-45, but I prefer using my Para P14 if I'm running .45 because it's more comfy in my fat hands and I like 1911s but I prefer doublestack mags. I probably wouldn't get a 97 because the capacity limit is too low for me to justify the purchase when I already have a K2, even if it is 'Turkish' (which is usually a bad word around here, even when it's just a range toy).

>>34241238
Why wouldn't you want to buy glocknades? Grenades under $1000 w/o tax stamps? Sign me up.

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>>34242371
>I used to have a stippled G21 Gen4 about 3 years ago and I didn't like the way it felt in my hands or the way it looked. I ended up selling it and getting another gun.

I'm the biggest Glockfgt you'll ever meet but I like the poly80 frame more than any gen stock frame. it's just so slick and fits better with the slide. if only the trigger guard was the same as the stock glock guards and the mag release was for gen 4 buttons, it would be perfect.

>>34241302
Because I actually use them on duty where my life depends on it and don't want to get confused with different manuals of arms and tendencies.

Unfortunately we're required to carry Glocks, so anything else I buy must be similar. I still to this day don't personally own a Glock and probably won't ever. I'm a fan of FN and HK, and might consider a CZ. I get what OP is implying, they're a horribly boring and simple gun. Not in a good way but in a cheapy way, which isn't justified by their upper-middle tier price.

>>34241678
>5-10 years from now most cc guns will probably have a red dot of some kind on them

Nobody said anything against this. Does that mean this is actually probable?

I was going to make a thread for this but I'll post in this one instead.

Does anyone here carry or rely on anything other than a modern striker-fired pistol, probably a Glock or a similar pistol with what is broadly referred to as a "safe-action" trigger? If so, what is it and why? I'm not talking about a range queen 1911 you have because it's cool, I mean something you carry or keep by your bedside.

When I was shopping for a CC piece, I realized that I couldn't in good conscience consider anything else. DA/SA guns have the issue of a long, heavy first trigger pull (maybe not an issue for some but my short fingers make it a hassle) and SA only guns require the extra step of working the manual safety before they can be fired.

Even though the Sig P938 fit my hand well and the trigger was fantastic, I wound up buying a shield 9mm without the manual safety just for the reason that I won't have to worry about thumbing an itty bitty safety on an itty bitty pistol.

>>34241238

Because sometimes money is a concern or you're a boring basic bitch who wants a no frills hand sized bang stick that you won't feel bad about abusing.

>>34242909
this. 1911s, sigs, cz, etc. all get me erect but for cc or personal defense the advantage of integral safety striker fired is too obvious.

Interestingly I think hammer guns make fine duty guns; in a combat environment you're already in a heightened state of awareness, meaning you've probably cocked that hammer already, and also when operating in teams I would want my team members to be using manual safeties on all their guns when maneuvering.

don't own a pistol yet, just thinking this stuff through.

>>34242929
>money is a concern
FN, CZ, sig, s&w, Ruger, Springfield, and Steyr all offer a poly striker for less. I know there's some lulzworthy brands on that list but some are on par if not above Glock. What makes the Glock worth over a hundred dollars more than offerings from all those listed? It seems like they're riding on brand alone. That's what the haters get so assblasted about. They don't do anything better than anyone else, refuse to offer anything else than the same boring gun, and on top of that charge more than it's worth.

>>34242909
I and a few others on here carry a LEM P30. I can't hit shit point aiming with glocks.

>>34242953
For sure I would feel fine with a P229 or a CZ or even a 1911 as a duty gun. It's just when we get to the tiny guns with tiny controls I don't want to bother with safeties or anything.

>>34242971
That's a nice looking pistol. And yeah Glocks are dildos unless you're really used to them. I can do 3" at 10-yards all day long with my P320 or model 10 but can't hit the bullseye at half that with any glockenspiel.

>>34242953
>I would want my team members to be using manual safeties

You're thinking stuff through pretty thoroughly.

You're not in a heightened sense of awareness in combat. Though I can only speak from LE experience, it's more of a "10 things going on at once" type of awareness, which means your attention to detail is dulled. Other senses do become heightened, ones you don't notice until you've been in a serious incident. I'd dub these the "safety senses."

Back to 10 things going on at once. You're in a dangerous situation. You kind of wish you weren't there. You just saw a shadow in the other room. You hear some shit over there. You check to see if the rest of your squad is behind you. You think what if this, what if that. The radio won't shut up. Someone says move, go that way. You didn't plan on going that way. Wtf is around that corner seriously I just heard something else. You're walking forward, you don't want to turn that corner but you're pieing it anyway. SHUT UP RADIO. All your focus is on the edge of that wall looking out for danger. Fuck, don't get tunnel vision, pay attention to the rest of the hallway. Ok, corners pied, move and cover the hallwa-OH FUCK *trip*. Involuntary squeeze, *bang*. But my finger wasn't on the trigger, wait was it? I wasn't paying attention to that with all the other shit going on. Your squadmates are pissed, you almost shot Murphy (who cares he's a dick anyway).

But yeah, you see what I'm saying. Under pressure you make mistakes, things you've trained a hundred times can end up being forgotten under stress when you have to pay attention to tons of other things. There are many other reasons why I advocate safeties on guns, close quarters squad operations is one of them.

>>34242276
Ayyy them mec gar 18 rounders are the shit boi

>>34243026
Yesirrr, 2 18rd mags and 1 in the pipe.

>>34242101
meekakitty

>>34241238
Because 90% of the polymer striker fired guns are just Glock clones with varying ergonomics? That's always been the biggest gripe I've heard about them that people don't like how they feel in hand. Me? I've been shooting Glocks practically since I was old enough to pick one up. They're the K/L-frame .357 Smith and Wesson that guys a few generations back grew up learning to shoot on. Ironically enough now that I've grown so accustomed to the feel and balance of Glocks, other guns in a similar formats like M&P, XDM Sig P320, etc etc all just feel off and unnatural to me.

Assuming I was no guns, and just looking to buy my first pistol maybe I'd buy something else, but at this point none of them really do anything so revolutionary or inspiring to the degree that I'd switch away anytime soon.

>>34243220
Maybe if you grew up on Glocks, sure.

I only got into handguns recently. When I went shooting I looked for a a pistol that fit my hand well and that I could raise to eye level and be naturally looking down the sights. Glock does neither for me. The P320 does, and so does the M&P. The Walther PPQ and HK VP9 also point naturally, and the 1911 is the king of ergonomics imo. The Glock just isn't comfy.

>>34242535
I've actually been pretty curious about those poly80 frames. Do you just slap your slide/barrel on the frame and rock'n'roll? Or is there drilling/minor assembly required?

My main concern is that the poly80 frame might be horribly unreliable, at least in comparison to a stock Glock.

>>34241238
Because I preferred the Glock to all the other that I tried out. Score I made my decision on what to buy.

>>34241302
>Why wouldn't you own many different pistols?

>>34242655
>Because I actually use them on duty where my life depends on it and don't want to get confused with different manuals of arms
>I still to this day don't personally own a Glock

>forced to carry a Glock
>owns an HK

Why are LEOs so fucking retarded?

>>34243876
We're not all this retarded, I promise you. I own a G22 to practice with but carry s VP9.

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>>34242909
I used to have a Ruger P95(DA/SA) years ago as my bedside gun. I see the merit in striker fired guns for CC/HD (I use a Glock 17 for my bedside and carry a VP9), however the modern DA/SA is still totally viable. With any firearm, training is paramount for proper use. I detest manual safeties on defensive pistols these days, preferring a safe-action style trigger or a decocker only pistol.

>>34242965
Pretty much this.

Glock may be the Toyota of handguns, but its fan base is similar to Apple.

>>34242655
>they're a horribly boring and simple gun
>in a cheapy way
What makes a gun "boring", and even more, "boring in a cheapy way"?

>>34243395
>80% frame
>is there drilling/minor assembly required?
What the fuck do you think?

>>34241386
They do actually heavily modify them. Especially since Glock *still* doesn't offer an OEM threaded barrel.

>>34243876
The God's honest truth is that most of them aren't gun enthusiasts. I'm also in law enforcement, but I actually grew up in rural Georgia with firearms. Most of my fellow deputies do have a few firearms, but they aren't actually excited about shooting. This whole "every gun I own is for a firefight" mentality is strange to me. To claim that you can't shoot different pistols is taking yourself way too seriously. It's a bit delusional.

>>34243920
>They do actually heavily modify them.
No they don't. The line uses stock G17s and SNOTs get a threaded barrel. Omitting RRC, those are the only modifications you'll find.

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>>34241238
Because despite meming and terrible, baseless and unfounded opinions, Glocks are actually nice guns.

Buy whatever the fuck you like and stop worrying about what others are buying or like. I've sold all of the different 9mms I've had over the years from Sigs to Walthers to Beretta (except for my Grandpa's old 1981 Beretta 92), and only kept my Glock 19 and P2000. I'd take the Glock 19 over my old Legion P226 any day.

>>34243920
They use G17s and G19s as well, but they are stock. I've shot a pistol clinic at 3rd Batt.

>>34243922
>rural GA
>deputy
>G22
You're not Gordon County, are you?

>>34243989
Grew up in rural Georgia, but I work in Muscogee County now.

>>34244013
You downgraded. I just guessed Gordon because all of our police have shitty g22s.

>>34244025
Naw, we carry a G17. I like Glocks a lot though.

>9mm
>using anything other than gas delayed blowback

>>34241435
This. Aside from night sights. I love my 26, it's a little T H I C C but no big deal.

>>34241238
Im not interested in Glocks for their 9mm calibers.

I would love a Beretta but it would have to be one of the Vertec models with very thin profile grips. And I would have to do a trigger job on it.

I really like the idea of a BHP with thin grips too, they've got 20 rounders for those. But im not fond of the Sights they've got for them (except the real old ladder artillery sights)

I hate the M&P and I dont like how the Sig pistols are like a high ass profile semi truck trailer compared to the grip height.

>>34241238

Same reason people buy Toyota Corollas when there are a dozen other cars in that segment that are arguably better. Boring, reliable, good aftermarket. Some people don't spend every waking hour researching guns and arguing about them on the internet and just want to buy it use it and not expend much mental energy in theprocess.

>>34241238
I don't. CZ sig and FN are all superior

>>34241350
>implying that having billybob and cletus drag a firearm from their pickup is a comprehensive stress test of anything other than having your weapon dragged from said pickup
>implying an aluminum frame would "shatter" after being dragged by billybobs truck
stay delusional glockfags, it's hilarious

best gun stock with no aftermarket
is it still the glock

>>34241435
That's what people said about ARs. "You don't need a red dot", "the stock trigger is just fine"

Why not make a great gun even better?

>>34241283

MUD
U
D

>>34244444

with numbers like that, it has to be good
> ill agree on the FN at least
> ive heard good things about CZ but they're so goddamn hipster looking its pathetic

>>34242909
I usually carry a Px4 in the winter. Safeties are really no big deal. the SA pull is a lot nicer than the Glock pull. The safety is off on mine when it is in a holster, I only use it when it's just sitting out on a table, or when holstering so I don't Glock myself in the leg.