What does /K/ think about a HK USP in 9mm? Thinking about getting

I think it's a little like using an Abrams just for the mounted .50 mg. Good pistol but overbuilt for a tame round, just get one of the newer models.

.45 or get out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlFwTw0Z6nM

I'd only ever get the Match USP and that only cuz half life fanboy.

Its overbuilt but goddamn its a great pistol.

>>34220864
Couldn't do much better in a handgun.

>>34221016
That's why you load it with hot as fuck rounds, anon.

>>34220864
It's a good pistol. You will want to hold one and see how the grip and controls feel. The rail on it requires an adapter to work with regular picatinny accessories. The magazines hold 15 rounds of 9mm which is on the small side for such a large handgun. Other than that, it really depends on how it feels in your hand.

>>34220864
you can get them in .40 dirt cheap
http://www.armslist.com/posts/6869582/ashtabula-ohio-handguns-for-sale---------h-k-usp-40sw-13rd-4-25--used-40-hk-heckler-koch

>>34221197
The problem with this is that instead of getting a nice 9, you get a 40.

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>>34221163
>hot 9mm's

I think I am picking one up in the next 6 months for a pending suppressor. The hk tactical 9 just seems to have all the shit I want for a supressed handgun.

I'm not crazy about the the prop rail, but I'm hardly a railfag anyway.

Their are also funnel magwell/17 round mag kits that bring the capacity up a little. But then the huge gun is even bigger. Mag price goes from silly to plain ludicrous, but it's an HK after all. Jury is still out on that.

>>34221331
>he doesn't load his 9mm to 7.62 Tok velocities
lmaoing @ ur life

>>34221224
Youll make up the cost in ammo buying the .40 from the 9mm.

Well unless you do reloads

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>>34220864
Go for it OP.

>>34221548
I like your file name.

Great handgun if you don't mind the size and expensive ass mags

>>34221548
"But usp kun. I eject from there."

>>34222068
>>34221548
"Shhhhhh Its ok P-30 chan, I put on plenty of CLP it'll feel good I promise."

>>34220864
My HK USP Compact .40 was my first semi auto gun and my EDC buy it

>>34221197
Holy shit I had no idea

>>34221107
>>34221016

This. .45 is THE caliber for the USP, both because there's too many better options for a wonder 9mm and because 9mm is a waste of how overbuilt the pistol is. Shooting 9mm in a USP is like driving an F35p with a 4 banger in it, more efficient but just wrong. I love 9mm, I love the USP (my favorite gun hands down), but 9mm is a pointless caliber in that platform.

All the USPs are good guns and have their place, but the 9mm full size will feel low capacity if you don't get jet funnel magazines. And if you do get jet funnel magazines, they are really expensive, like $90 per magazine, so keep that in mind.

>>34222296
You can get the metal ones for 60, the polymer ones are even cheaper

>>34220864
OP that shit us smooth as butter, but its too heavy to practically carry, and honestly the magazine capacity isnt even that impressive.

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>>34221016
>>34221107
>>34222143

No, because .45 is a shit caliber to begin with. Only advantage the .45 has is the metal magazines.

>>34222308
>the metal ones for 60
There are no "metal ones." The ones marketed as "steel" are polymer with steel reinforcements at the feed lips - just like all other USP9 magazines. Look at the pictures. It clearly has a polymer body. And do tell us where you can get them for $60.
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=14549&idcategory=482

OP here, im convinced in getting it in .40!
Thanks for the advice

>>34222443

Good call. They are good guns.

>>34220864
honestly these guns are fucking sexy -- there are some great guns out there but man i love me a usp in any caliber

The 9mm USP is a fantastic gun.

Problem is, it was designed for Nazi death robots instead of actual people with people hands.

P2000 gets you backstraps and much nicer (albeit smaller) magazines.

P30 gets you side panels and backstraps, plus the same magazine size.

>>34222532
>it was designed for Nazi death robots
The gun was designed in 1989, you dumb fucking jackass.

>>34222550
Why on earth are you so upset about an obviously hyperbolic statement?

>>34222532
Too bad P2000 is H&K's red-headed step child, I think it's their most aesthetic
>not as blocky as USP
>not as faux-Walther flowy as the P30
>just a sharply-angled tool of death in the palm of your hand

>>34222582
I'm not upset at all, bro.

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>>34221548
oh, it's you. you never called back. after that morning. in the snow.

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>>34222344

.45 is a great caliber, stop being a whiny bitch.

>>34222665
>THIN
>CASES

>>34222608
It's not even redheaded step child, it's just good old fashioned middle child neglect.

It doesn't have the aftermarket built by the USP from years of simply existing, and it doesn't get twice the attention that the P30 and VP9 do from accessory swapping.

It was the new thing for all of what, five years? Then the P30 comes along and it's done. They're so close that the P30 barrel and/or slide will fit and manually cycle (not brave enough to try it live) on a P2000 frame, and magazines from either line will fit and function in either, magwell allowing. The P30 was almost called the P3000, even.

At the end of the day, it's the most comfy option out of the two compacts that HK offers. That's good enough for me.

>>34222665
>a lot less capacity than 9mm
>less capacity and less muzzle energy than .40S&W
>no more suppressable than subsonic 9mm
>literally no advantages over the other service calibers
>"but you're 'a whiny bitch' if you can't understand its greatness"

>>34222689
Even worse
>less suppressible than subsonic 9mm
and
>holy shit why do people think it being subsonic is a good thing when that just means it arcs like an arrow and it's not the movies so subsonic doesn't mean silent

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>>34222653
Don't make it weird. You knew what this was. I've moved on to someone I can respect, someone who doesn't put out on the first date.

Kind of huge for a 9mm. And you'll need a jet funnel + jet funnel mags if you want 18rd mags that cost $60-80 each.

>>34221197
Yep, the FBI literally killed the .40
.40 guns dropping left and right.

>>34221197
>>34222924
Pretty much, senpai. It's not just USPs, it's every gun. I'll be looking for something on gunwatcher and see a price that's like $300 below the others, then I notice that it's a .40 that snuck in past my search terms.

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>>34222665
>>34221197
>>34221107

>>34223045
The shitty nylon shoulder holster really makes this image for me. Leather ones can be AESTHETIC as fuck, but the nylon ones look like shit.

Gun was made for ,40. Feed it what it wants.

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USP a best

Do this, 10mm is better than all the pussy calibers mentioned here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh16zi55G0

Or, just get a .45acp USP and shoot hot .45 super rounds out of it (1300fps vs 800-900fps with the acp), then the .45 will actually be advantageous to the 9mm when not suppressed.

>>34221382
>lmaoing @ ur life

If there was ever a sentence that screamed "I'm 12 and don't know what guns really look like." it is that pile of vowels. That's the kind of stupid shit that blows up Glocks. Just get the gun in a round designed to actually be stronger than a 9mm, like .40S&W.

>>34224453
not shooting 357 sig

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What should you pay for one of these?

>>34224728
>not knowing the 5 year old meme
back to arfcom gramps.

>.40S&W stronger than 9mm
Not to a degree where's it's actually worth buying.

>>34220864
Do it. I have the compact and I love the thing.
>>34224803
500-1200 depending on condition and model

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Not op, but I was wondering how the USP 9mm Tactical compares to a P30L (or P30 in general). I've heard things about the triggers sucking on the P30 but aren't those two the same pretty much? Also L or standard?

>>34220864
is it pronounced heckler and cotch or heckler and coke?

>>34220864
Do any of the HK pistols come with a metal frame?
or is it all plastic shits?

>>34224809
oh my poor sweet child, with age comes wisdom. when i was your age i thought everything i knew was right, too.

>>34225164
heckler and coke, as per their website

>>34224230
How do you like that Mark 23, anon? How does it compare to your other USPs in places like the trigger?
I'm torn between that and a USP 45 tactical as a meme gun with possible suppressed nightstand duty thrown in.
I'll probably get both down the road but I wonder which I should get first.

>>34225178
take your meds old man we're going to sizzler's tomorrow.

>>34224748
Its hard to get .357 sig rounds which have the same power as .357 mag. Most 10mm loads have the same ft-lbs as .357 mag.

>>34222689
>choosing subsonic 9mm over subsonic .45
>ever
dude stop

>>34223045
accurate tbqh

>>34223045
They never said .45 ACP, just .45 caliber. What if they are talking about .45 Super, which can be shot out of unmodified USPs, and has significantly more power than 9mm.

>>34226462
Why not get one of thbose cheap USP .40s and then modify it to shoot 10mm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh16zi55G0

>>34226501
I posted about that a little white ago: >>34224453
I think 10mm is much more effective than .45 super, but a benefit of .45 super is that most .45 guns can be converted to it with a spring change, can can always revert to shooting .45 acp reliably for plinking. This is unlike 10mm which will have problems if you feed it .40 short&weak.

.45 super is one of the most underrated cartridges.

>>34224809
>not knowing a 5 year old 4chan meme

I think technically I won then. But the .40SW is totally worth it if you load it WITH SUPER FUCKING HOT ROUNDS amirite?

>>34226773
Even the hottest hand-loaded .40 short&weak loads that are within SAAMI specs, .40sw cant compete with the lightest factory 10mm loadings.

I have a USP9 with the LEM trigger. I hate it.

>>34226851
Thats because you fell for the LEM meme.

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>>34220864
P30/P30L/P30S in 9x19 is perfect if you want HK in 9mm

>>34224803
I'll gib ya dwendy buks fur it

>>34225227
Koch is anunciated with the hocking sound that you make in the back of your throat when you speek either German, Hebrew or Arabic.

T.German

>>34226918

See,>>34225144

Also do any come in threaded barrels already?

>>34224803
>What should I expect to pay for one of these?
fixed that for you, answer is "alot". the USP name is enough for everyone to demand alot for them. your lucky to find used USPs under $600

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Since this a german thread, here's my Walther/Spreewerk P38 mixmaster.

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>>34227022

I haven't shot a USP9T, but I believe they have match triggers, which are much fuckin nicer than the stock stuff. there is really no comparable line of P30 guns to the USP T series. IE: There is not "P30T" that comes tricked out with a threaded barrel, improved match sights and a match trigger. For the standard P30 factory standard 1/2x28 RH twist threaded bbls are really easy to get. But for P30Ls I ended up having to get a 13.5x1 LH threaded bbl - At least it's factory HK.

You can very easily get a match trigger for P30s/USPs/P2000, if you are handy just buy the parts off of HKparts and do it yourself, if you are lazy just get an RMA from HK and send it to then, or find an HK certified armorer.

The biggest suck of the P30 series is there is no LEM / Match hybrid trigger, like there is for the USP.

P30L is the longslide, but It feels more just fullsize to me, bbl is 4.5" it's not a monster. The USP9T is gonna be a big, greating shooting gun.

4 of 5 of my HKs are the LEM variant, so I haven't spent much time with other HK triggers recently, sorry can't be much more useful.

>>34227243
Tactical models differ in that they come with a match trigger, heavier recoil spring and TALLER suppressor sights. They are not match sights. In fact, I personally don't even like them or think they're good sights.

>You can very easily get a match trigger for P30s/USPs/P2000,
Only the USP has a match trigger option and the parts are not compatible. There is no match trigger option for the P2000 or P30.

>The biggest suck of the P30 series is there is no LEM / Match hybrid trigger, like there is for the USP.
The USP comes from the factory with heavy LEM only. You can mod it with lighter springs (12# hammer spring, lighter trigger return spring, lighter firing pin block spring), but the only difference between light LEM and so-called "match LEM" is a slightly lighter hammer spring (10-11# instead of 12#), which doesn't feel THAT different in practice from light LEM config. The P30, on the other hand, comes from the factory with a light LEM option, which is almost the same feel as the modded light or match LEM on a USP.

>>34225689
Honestly get the 45 tactical. I love the 23, but it is very large and clumsy. It's extremely accurate and will survive a tank running over it, but I think the usp would has more finesse

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I had a p30, traded it in for a USP 9

fucking love this gun.

sure, it maybe over built for 9, but that means little felt recoil and the 4.25 inch barrel is plenty accurate.

it's also a 24 year old 1993 model, so the trigger is nice and broken in. very smooth to use

>>34228883
God damn the image of a Big Strong FULL SIZE gun DOMINATING an innocent little compact gets me hard. if i could describe it right now id say that all 3 inches of it are TITANIUMONIC.