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You can drive a screw with a coin instead of a screwdriver, but nobody in his right mind would prefer to use a coin instead of a screwdriver. Likewise, you can use a trigger with a lot of creep (most striker fired designs), but nobody in his right mind would want to. That's why in competitions where accuracy is an important part of a contestant's score, winning competitors almost always use single action hammer fired pistols. The 1911 has plenty of shortcomings, but it's superior trigger is enough to make it better than nearly every other production pistol on the market today.
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>>34190018
>single action hammer fired pistols
why not just use a revolver??
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>>34190075
Revolvers are hammer fired, and most of them have the option of being used single action. Therefore, revolvers are a subset of single action hammer fired pistols.
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>>34190104
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
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>>34190018
>>34190075
>>34190104
>>34190138
Fuck off samefag noone cares what kind of gun you use and noone should care what kind I use
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>>34190018
>The 1911 has plenty of shortcomings, but it's superior trigger is enough to make it better than nearly every other production pistol on the market today.
A shootable trigger doesn't make it the best trigger.
https://pistol-training.com/archives/8549
Also Ernest Langdon who shoots DA/SA competitively along with Mike Pannone would like to say hi.
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>>34190176
The article you link is about taking prisoners. I don't take prisoners.
>>34190176
>Also Ernest Langdon who shoots DA/SA competitively along with Mike Pannone would like to say hi.
What kind of competition? There are some competitions that place emphasis on accuracy. Others place emphasis on speed and have very low standards for accuracy as long as you hit the plate. In competitions where accuracy determines a contestants score, the overwhelming majority will shoot some kind of single action hammer fired pistol. If they us DA/SA, they will cock that hammer every chance they get.
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>>34190018
I like to know I'm pulling my trigger and where it's going to break actually.
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>>34190172
>samefag
What are you going on about?
I only typed this >>34190075
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>>34190018
OK, so creep is the distance between resistance and the break?
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>>34190176
I've been trying to wrap my head around LEM. Basically it's a light, long DAO right? I get that it's pre-cocked hammer down etc etc. But in terms of how you use it, it's like a double action only right?
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>>34190962
>But in terms of how you use it, it's like a double action only right?
IIRC, first shot has a DAO-length pull but a SA pull weight. All subsequent shots have an extremely short reset and SA pull weight, unless you release the trigger. If you release the trigger, the gun returns to the same conditions as the first shot: DAO-length pull, SA pull weight.
It sounds like a fantastic system on paper, but I've unfortunately never actually had the chance to try one.
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>>34191050
They're good for cops. Anyone else, it's not worth the switch.
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>>34190962
Without getting technical I'll explain what it's like to shoot.
First pull is the DISTANCE of a standard TDA double action pull with the WEIGHT of SA (4.5 lbs on V1's)
The RESET is just like a TDA, resetting fairly short, not as short as strikers though.
Basically it's just like a TDA hammer fired pistol but the first "double action" shot has the same 4.5 lbs as the rest.
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>>34191087
I disagree, IMHO LEM is the strongest trigger design for any carry or fighting pistol. It's safe(r), easy to shoot with practical accuracy and fast. It's also very compatible with AIWB carry.
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>>34190489
So just shoot more.
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>>34190489
No, that's the worst thing you can do. You'll anticipate the break and flinch. You want a surprise break.
>>34190876
Yes, sir.
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>>34191094
>>34191050
THanks. It's just a little hard to grok and I can't find anyone with one local to me to try. I just keep going in circles. I think I want the V4, that has the middle of the road trigger pull. I was thinking I wanted the version with the safety but the more i think about it the more it just doesn't seem necessary. If I was getting the classic DA/SA I might get the safety.
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>Muh lock time
Hammer a shit, just file off half the engagement on your striker gun and call it a day.
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>>34191418
>muh surprise break
nigger I never want to surprised by a gunshot I want to know exactly when that shit's going off
If you flinch like a bitch that's your problem and you need to practice more
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>>34191756
>>34191756
The only way to train around a flinch is with a surprise break.
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>>34191708
Easier said than done. I want a gun that's good out of the box.
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>but it's superior trigger is enough to make it better than nearly every other production pistol on the market today.
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>>34192050
It really isn't. The 1911 trigger is objectively better by any standard.
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>>34191050
My brother got one. It was a very long pull. I kept getting worried it was broken because of how long the pull was.
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>>34190172
>why bother discussing weapons?
what the fuck is the point of this board you huge retard
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