/MEG/ Military Enlistment General Combat Medic Edition OP

i can't believe we get first aid and cpr training and i sitll don't know shit about first aid and cpr
i signed up to shoot guns, damn it, not to give saline solution to diabetics when they're feeling woozy

Anybody here been through MP OSUT?

If a civilian intelligence analyst job says a basic qualification is:
>two to four year analytical experience within DoD or equivalent Government agencies and requires former MOS 35F, 18F, 35D, 34A, or equivalent [insert other branch intelligence jobs]
Does that mean I'd be limited to only the listed MOS for the Army? I know that sounds like a retarded question, but I don't understand why they would only hire certain intelligence MOS, because pretty much all of them have this qualification. I was thinking of doing 35M, but I can't find any decent jobs for that, and this site doesn't list 35M as a qualification.

If I go 35F with option for, am I more likely to be assigned to a line unit?

>>34128828
>Gee why would people going into combat ever need to know first aid?

A true mystery of our time.

Can any navy corpsman here tell me how likely I am to get to go greenside? I ship next month as an HM.

Does the Ranger course suck as bad as people say?

I'm considering joining here across the pond in germany as a paramedic, training would be three years after basic training and NCO course and would therefore be comparable to a civilian american paramedic.
The minimum contract length would be eight years and would include quite some time as a regular ambulanceman responding to civilian emergency calls at one of our military hospitals.
Any EMT, corpsman, combat medic or similar willing to tell me about the job?

I'm thinking about re-enlisting in the CF reserves. What's the situation like regarding positions and employment? Last I heard we were still bleeding too many people after Afghanistan and infantry suffered the most cuts.

>>34129337
it's about 50%

If you don't suck in A school you'll probably get it

If you have to go talk to the captain at the end of a green table, you'll go back to great lakes and have super fun chill time with recruits trying to dodge IT

>>34129436
RASP or Ranger School?

Either way, it's supposed to suck.

>>34130092
School.

>>34128924

On one hand, if you have applicable analytical experience you could probably argue that bullet pretty easily. Those are usually guidelines that can be bent for the right potential hire.

On the other hand, 35Ms are not analysts, so it's very possible you get out of the military without that analytical experience.

>>34128951

Assuming you mean Option 4?

Yes, but only in the sense that it'll rule out a lot of the strat assignments. You will likely end up in an Airborne unit but that doesn't mean you'll be in a line element. Conventional line unit life for a 35F usually sucks though.

What happens if you fail a TS clearance in the Navy? Do you pick a new rate or get kicked out?

>>34130213

You'll usually get a chance to pick between a couple of rates that are available. Getting denied a TS is fairly rare though, they prescreen out people who are obviously disqualified. As long as you were honest on your paperwork you should be fine.

ANG 15G my 6 years are up in 2019. Would it be realistic for me to join the CG or Navy and reclasssify my MOS to work on boats?

>>34129670
I've worked as a combat medic, transport medic and field hospital medic in Sweden, if you have any questions go ahead but I think it'll be difficult to answer any specifics since nations are quire different on day to day work.

I have a word of warning though. I've met some german soldiers in my time and most of them seemed just to want their term to end. Out of one platoon that I worked with quite a lot over an exercise every soldier I talked to except the platoon sergeant wondered why the hell I was still in the army if I could quit any day... And the platoon sgt might've just been loyal to his officer.

Do all 35Ms get sent to DLI?

any cons for joining the NG since theres no start of a cold war 2.0

>>34130505

Do you test at least 3/3 in a language desired by the DoD? No? Then you're going to DLI. Why would you even ask that?

>Hey guys, if I can shoot a rifle and hit a target at the civilian range do I still have to go to infantry training?

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>>34130521

Depends on the state.

NG gets last tier gear and funding and because of the part time status and constantly rotating leadership it can be a complete fuster cluck.

Oh shit, I'm feeling the suck.

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>All these people sweating over a climate control treaty while I'm praying for the third world war to happen

I'm trying to look up the class dates for Fort Benning OCS. When I click the link for 2017 though it fails to load the page. Can anyone else access this or tell me another way to get this information?

http://www.benning.army.mil/infantry/199th/ocs/
Trying to use the link under Student Information>Class Dates>2017

>>34128924
>because pretty much all of them have this qualification.

How the fuck do you know? You haven't even been in for a minute you fuckin cunt.

>but I don't understand why they would only hire certain intelligence MOS

For contract jobs the contracting company is trying to hire someone who already has training and experience so they can put them right into the job. And the contracting agency (likely DoD in this case) not the company that would pay you makes the final hiring decision so it's likely they set the hiring guidelines.

Signed my contract yesterday for 15U, how fucked am I?

>be canadian reserves applicant
>takes 5 weeks of in-the-system time
damn efficient
interview within a week of CFAT
shit's great man.

i was just banned from the discord...wow mods are sensitive faggots

How do I become a part of SOF as a 35F?

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Can anyone recommend a proper workout regimen to prepare for the Air Force SERE specialist course?
Some good boots as well?

>>34131414

Talk to one of their recruiting teams and put in a packet. 35Fs have slots in pretty much all well-known SOF orgs as well as some less known ones. Some of them also have support elements that you can join without actually being SOF yourself (Special Forces does this, for instance).

Most of them will require you to be airborne qualified beforehand, but not all.

>>34131453
Upper/Lower split with HIIT, incorporate swimming
Ask /fit/

Is there any hope to joining the military if I have Ankylosing Spondylitis and require an injection every 2 weeks? When using the injection I'm in perfect health

>>34131530
Sorry famo that's a liability in a combat zone

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>>34130919

Did they finally fucking reform the reserve recruitment system? also what unit nigga

>>34129742
most if not all units are whoring themselves for troops due to exorbitant attrition rates. what was your original trade?

I've got a question regarding the 6month promotion from E1 to E2. I ship off to basic training two days before I reach my 6th month serving, and the ship date is before the RSP drill date for that month. Should I expect to be promoted during reception or basic training, or should I ask my recruiter about an early promotion? I received soldier of the month for my company two months ago so I feel like that should be taken into consideration.

>>34131758
>I ship off to basic training two days before I reach my 6th month serving

wait what nigger how are you serving when you haven't been to basic training yet

>>34131779
National Guard, the RSP drills count as time off my contract since they are mandatory.

>>34131820
That's fucking weird

I'd ask to make sure I've seen a lot of fucky things happen to people as far as advancement is concerned like multiple people getting shafted out of the last E-5 exam.

>>34131586
Signals, I was told at the time that re-enlisting would be difficult. Was that just more recruiter bullshit?

>>34130533
Not him but 35Ms have only been recently required to go to DLI. I was in from 2009-2014 and they didn't do DLI.

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Can anyone tell me about the air force TACP pipeline? Specifically what you learn/do at the TACP schoolhouse, and what the SERE portion at ft lewis is like?

>>34130219
How honest should you be about experiences with mary jane?

>>34132266

Pot is pretty much irrelevant for a clearance as long as you've stopped and aren't trying to hide it.

>>34132326
So you won't get denied clearance for saying you've experimented a few times in the past?

any good info on navy CTN rate? got all the info from navy but its not too specific and just wondering what culture is like, is it full of other 4chan autists like me? are they pretty detached from other navy divisions?


btw that discord link doesnt work anymore

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>Mom forced me to see a shrink before going to college because I had a slight grade dip and single mothers are not good at parenting
>Ended up being prescribed anti depressants for a year
>Avoided taking them but it's still on some medical record somewhere in the world
Am I pretty much fucked if I want to go combat arms?

>>34132357

Why would that make you a security risk? It sounds like you don't understand the clearance process.

Past marijuana use isn't an issue on a clearance investigation unless you make it one (by trying to hide it).

>>34131845
>That's fucking weird
That's normal for Guard and Reserve.

>tfw had a big interest in military military history my whole life
>Both parents are anti gun and anti war in every way and hate any form of military service
>single peace loving hippie mother gets me diagnosed as autistic because of it when I was 10
>tfw everyone I've met tell me I'm not autistic at all and there's no way I should have been diagnosed
>even if I could somehow get it listed as misdiagnosed I also had spinal fusion surgery for scoliosis which would immediately make me ineligible to enlist in the Australian Army

All I want is to get paid for getting fit and shooting ISIS goat fuckers is that too much to ask

>>34131586
I'm going 41st Service Battalion, no idea what unit it is yet. I'm being blueballed for info right now.
Just gotta get my runs up. 7km ain't good.

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How much are reservists shit on in the Marines?

>>34131586
>all those non-issued vests

Lucky fucks.

>>34132603
>I'm going 41st Service Battalion, no idea what unit it is yet

41st Service will be your unit.

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I don't want to join. I have a great thing going on with a woman I love and it would take me a while to get in shape, or in shape enough to pass the tests. I'm not fat, but I have no muscle.
>Then don't join
I also have no career, no passion, and a pure math college degree which may as well be a liberal arts degree. I'm in my mid twenties and people are getting married and moving on with their lives even in this shit economy, local, and meanwhile I still don't have any employment at all.
Just in a dark time of my life also my parents are out of the picture so no guidance their. Gf's parents have been better to me than mine were.

>>34130561

OKLAHOMA

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why is 68 series best series?

>>34133214

I've only met one 68w. He was dumb as shit.

Starting the process of joining the corp. Did pt today with the other applicants. 2 pull ups. 31 crunches. 15 min mile. Fuck it was brutal.

>>34132629
If it's active into reserves you're good. Old Boys Club is a go.

If you're straight reserves, go fuck yourself you unprofessional shitbag

>>34132603
What trade w/ 41 svc bn yo

>>34131486
If I try to join SF after a few years as a 35M do I get stuck with an ODB/C or to I still have a chance to eat snakes with an ODA? Do intel guys have a chance at operating?

>>34132326
Diff guy here. I've illegally downloaded purses and cars, how fucked am I?

>>34132401
what if you told MEPS you never tried it, along with a couple other criminal charges that were thrown out of court... is it okay to tell they about it during the security clearance without fucking yourself on some kind of illegal enlistment headache?

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Can you still join the 03 field in the marines with hypothyroidism?

>>34133064
Ay, I'm from there m8, hope you save me Mum from the tornadoes.

>>34133535
how many crayons did you eat?

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>>34133704
I think like 2 when i was a kid. Why?

>>34133758
You didn't eat enough crayons, well not enough to be in the marines.

>>34128838
I'm in an MP unit, don't do it

>>34129670
If it takes 3 years of training to be the equivalent of an American paramedic, that's some really shitty training. I am a medic in the US Army and 90% of what I do is treating minor-to-moderate injuries caused by retardation, especially heat injuries. It sounds like Germany expects something a little different from you, though.

>>34133214
Because you get to stay an e4 forever

>>34133245
>I'm at my first duty station and get upset when people tell me to quit being a dumb ass

I have been in a court case which was eventually deferred to diversion and then military support. I went to the recruiter 3 weeks ago, took the asvab and scored high. They sent all my papers off 10 days ago to high court to have the waiver approved and going to meps. I've texted them twice and they haven't replied about what's next. Court's order is 30-60 days I need to enlist. What's up? Am I dq'ed?

>>34134000
depends, what did u do and what branch?

>>34134017
One felony count vandalism, Navy

What I'm worried about is they haven't gotten back to me. I don't feel like anything matters anymore because I need a career.

>>34134037
you might need to switch to army

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DUCK WALK DUCK WALK DUCK WALK

I'm practicing but I can't even hold that squatting down position for more than 20-25 seconds, my knees start to give out and it's very uncomfortable. When I try taking a step it's even worse. Could a doctor help me with this or am I just fucked?

>>34134052
i got lucky and was able to cheat my way thru the duckwalk, just go and try ur best

>>34134058
>just go and try ur best
I got DQ'ed at MEPS for it already, if I tried it again I would do just as bad...

>>34134045
Will they tell me if I'm dq'd though?

>>34134070
stretch.... you passed the knee slam on tile and walk on your knees on tile parts okay?

>>34134073
no, recruiters just drop people all the time if they aren't worth the paperwork and their time

>>34134080
>you passed the knee slam on tile and walk on your knees on tile parts okay?
technically yeah I passed that, it was pretty painful though. I nearly failed the one where you roll back on your toes and stand up, but they let me pass it just barely
>stretch
what kind of stretches do you recommend?

>>34134100
hamstrings

>>34134087
Would it be weird to go to the same recruiter? What if they saw me next door? Would that be weird?

>>34134169
depends how big the city the station is in

>>34133877
I got the option to go to CIDSAC after because I have a degree, was just wondering what to expect from osut because that's the first stop

>>34134697
Unless it's in your contract that won't actually happen, the people who get that are usually those who kiss the most ass or just at random. I know plenty of MPs with degrees doing the same boring MP shit as everyone else, and even if you are in CID, it's not that special + you can be assigned boring MP shit at any time.

OSUT isn't bad. You get a decent amount of freedom after the BCT portion is over, in fact they can do a lot more there than I could do at 68w AIT in the same time frame, and it's only 16 weeks total.

The problem is that being an MP is shit. The retention rate for the Army is just a bit under 20%, but (and this is just anecdotal) only about 1 in 20 MPs I know intends to re-enlist, and around half are for financial security purposes. The job sucks and is usually very boring, or you're dealing with shitheads who beat their wives or kill themselves in the barracks. Most MPs join thinking it will start a career in civilian or federal law enforcement, but unless you're in CID, MPI, DST, or at Hood/Campbell/Bragg, you're not really learning anything applicable to civilian LE, plus most police departments are full of prior-service, non-MPs who hate the power-tripping fuckers.

If you really want CID, they recruit from most MOSs, and if you want to be in LE after the military, try the Coast Guard, where they actually engage criminals, have federal law enforcement authority, and can continue their career after leaving the military.

>>34134169
That would not be weird. Hundreds of recruits talk to multiple branches each month, and you're signing up to go spend two months living in a room with 60 men showering together. Nothing is weird.

>>34134697
Also, if you have a degree you should try to go commissioned

Am I fucked if I have minor carpal tunnel? I sadly inherited a bunch of shitty problems from my mom's inbred family's side (some joint issues, dermatitis, etc.) and while none of it is severe (personally, I've gotten used to it) I'm sure the military has much stricter standards. I also haven't had a checkup in years so I don't even know if I have something I might not know about.

Point is I really want to join but I have all these stupid health problems that would be irresponsible to lie about...

Any tips for YOU sessions? Aussie here.

>>34134779
Yeah it's in my contract. I won't have any time as an MP. If there is any time between osut and CIDSAC they intern you with a CID unit. You can Google CID pilot to see the program it's on the newer side.

I'd rather do CID than commission, and no officers in CID besides warrant as you know

How can I get a commission without attending ROTC/an academy etc.? I heard an EMT course is useful for that. I'd like to get in as an E-5 or higher. Is this even possible without the aforementioned?

>>34135042
You can't enter higher than E-4, or O-3 depending on your degree (but you also likely wouldn't make it past O-3). EMT certification through the NREMT will get you E-4, but only as a 68W or Navy Corpsman (which is probably e3 actually since their e4s are NCOs).

I dunno about commissioned shit because I can read a map.

>>34135163
Why not? Why wouldn't one make it past O-3? Only through NREMT? So I would have to become a medic, no other option? What about other ways? Whaddaya mean you can read a map? Inside joke? Thanks for answering.

>>34135202
A lot of doctors and a few other things can start at o3 but making it past that and continuing to work as a doctor is rare so it doesn't happen often

NREMT is the only recognized national certification for EMTs so it's required for 68Ws, but if you already have it and it's not expired then you can enlist as e4. In other MOSs, similar certifications that are relevant to the job can guarantee enlistment at a rank higher than e1, but I only know about medic shit. You wouldn't have to be a medic, but if you wanted e4 you would. You can also enlist as an e4 if you have a bachelor's degree or higher but I wouldn't suggest it unless you just can't find a job other than starbucks.

2LTs are famous for getting all their soldiers lost and being drunk pieces of shit with no clue what they're doing but a simultaneous inability to recognize how clueless they are.

Instead of asking questions, tell us what certifications or degrees you have, and what you're interested in doing in the military

If I'm aiming for 2CDO should I finish my degree and enlist at 22 as rifleman, or enlist now and forget about my degree?

The prospect of possibly not even having a go at it is killing me inside, but I'm not sure how helpful the degree will be.

I'm a 24 year old alcoholic high school dropout who's never had an on paper job with no purpose in life. Should I enlist?

No, I'm not trolling. I'm in pretty good shape, no health problems, and I know how to shoot.

>>34135517
You sound like the majority of the military. The only problem you'll have is if they ask for people you know to ask about you, like acquaintances of 5+ years other than relatives. If you have nothing else going on you might as well try.

Hey any Med Fags around? I was looking at joining the Army to help pay for med school, but I was wondering if you're still able to apply as a combat medic post med school?

>>34133877
>If it takes 3 years of training to be the equivalent of an American paramedic, that's some really shitty training. I am a medic in the US Army and 90% of what I do is treating minor-to-moderate injuries caused by retardation, especially heat injuries. It sounds like Germany expects something a little different from you, though.
Training would most likely be comparable to a paramedic associate degree plus the usual, german bit of overqualification (EOD School is 9 months in the US military and like >15 in Germany for AF and army).
>>34130322
Anything you could tell me about the german soldiers you trained with?
Level of professionalism? Morale?

>>34135345
Good insight. I'm a licensed lumberjack.

>>34135910
>going combat medic post med school
That would be a profound waste of time, seeing as medics only have an EMT basic. Go in as a doctor if you're going to do that.

>>34133336
FUBIJAR - Fuck U Buddy I'm Just A Reservist

>>34132393
I'm in a similar situation and I also want to know this. I assume if I keep my mouth shut and lie if I have to I'll be fine.

>>34134052
They don't expect you to be the master if it.

Don't show its painful on your face
Don't show that you're uncomfortable

If you drop your hand to rebalance, they're not going to fail you on it.

Its just 5 steps forward, 5 steps back.

>>34128828
Why the fuck did you go medical then

So what's the deal with Naval EOD? Is it a low-tier SOF support job or a genuine career worth putting time in if your goal is not to upgrade to a real SOF position?

PCSing to my first base soon. what can i expect. Airforce client systems btw

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How "passable" is RASP if you simply don't quit? I'm not a quitter but my PT has never been the greatest. I can meet standards and I do try, but if I'm packed with some lifelong athletes I usually get smoked. In my defense, I'm 5'8 with flat feet (I already cleared MEPS with them) so I'm not a natural runner.

Considering a POG or support role. Thanks.

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What does military personal do with their pets?

For what i see in google you are usually forced to leave pets with your family/friends, but i dont have anyone that will want to take care of my cat...

>>34132629
Everybody in the Marines get shit on. POGs get shit on by infantry, infantry gets shit on by Recon, Recon gets shit on by MARSOC, MARSOC gets shit on by everybody because they don't do anything yet started calling themselves Raiders again.

Maybe not care what people think about your career choices, especially retards in the military.

>>34128747
the man in the picture you chose is no medic but a doctor (Oberstabsarzt equivalent to a major in the states)

>>34137524
beyond the stigma, you don't need to be in peak performance to be selected, though it obviously helps. What really sets yourself apart in the SOF community is your intelligence and willpower.

But again, you are either built to pass or not. You wont know if you dont try. If you grab a handful of combat arms soldiers ,odds are most could pass selection but for most its not the lifestyle they desire nor are they have the aptitude for. Thats where peer selection comes in, If your lucky enough to have relatives in the SOF community your trying to get into thats usually a clear from the peer standpoint, the rest is on you to pass.

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>>34137846
How does selection work exactly?

>>34137729
It's a cat dude. It isn't attached to you. Find it a good home. Don't change your career plan for a fucking cat.

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Looking at Aircraft Maintanence jobs.

Wanna get stationed in Japan or Korea.

What Aircraft are most common at the Asian AFBs?

Recruiter said "older models", but didn't get into specifics.

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I'm fucking dying here mates

I'm in the process of joining up and it's taking fucking forever. I'm going fucking bonkers with all the waiting and the lack of solid confirmation on anything

>>34138217
Taken me over 2 years, join the fucking club

>>34138303
I made the decision to join up a year ago
The first round of tests and shit ended right when the last group shipped out to basic.
So they told me to wait to the next summer (i.e. this one)
And now I can't help but feel like it's slipping through my fingers again
And there's absolutely nothing I can do to change the outcome.

>>34137929
My cat is more affectionate and attached to me than either of the dogs I had growing up. When I feed him, he thanks me before he touches the food. He always greets me at the door, and doesn't leave my sight when we're outside. It's all in how you raise them. I wanted a dog, but my landlord back then wouldn't let me, so I got a cat and started his training young and have always fed him good food. He comes when called, and even plays fetch.

>>34134037
If you have a felony you're fucked

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>>34133336
Can't describe how accurate this is

>>34132493
sorry I joined the real military

>>34138217

Same. I was ready to get shit done and go, then had to wait 2 weeks on medical records, now I'm waiting 4-6 on a copy of my diploma because I lost it.

I'm losing my fucking mind.

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>>34128747
>2 pull ups. 31 crunches. 15 min mile.


Absolute fucking joke.
I hope you mean you fucking 'walked' a mile in 15 minutes you shitbag.

>>34138448
then the military isn't for you

No one knows what's going on and nothing is certain unless it's on paper

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Medication question:

I've been cleared off of my medication (10mg Fluoxetine) and am currently tapering off of it. I'm set to be off my October but the recruiters are trying to get me into MEPS as soon as possible so I can take the ASVAB and swear in.

How many days after getting off my medication will I be good to go to MEPS and not pop on my piss test?

Alright so this will sound heavily autistic but bare with me

I don't care much about any of the requirements for getting into the navy/airforce/whatever I might end up thinking about but the food is what is my huge problem

I'm a really fussy eater no matter how much I try to change that it probably won't happen, ho do I handle that?

For example I could eat spam for 10 years and I'd be happy but I could not eat almost all of the MREs I've seen, I absolutely can not do it.

Is there some kind of workaround or is it just get what you're given and like it?

In UK btw if that changes things

>>34139124
If you can't handle doing something as unpleasant as eating a food you don't like, you may find there's a lot more things you can't handle in the military

>>34139124
Well for us it's while you're at shore you can eat whatever you want with your BAS or can chose to not eat at the galley if you don't get BAS and spend your pay eating out

At sea sorry senpai those powdered eggs are for you

t. 3rd Class US navy

>>34139186
Different anon here, but how do you like the Navy? What do you do for work when you're ashore?
I'm heading into the Canadian Navy soon enough

Anyone here in the Royal Navy? I'm enlisting as RN Police.

>>34139215
Hard to honestly say considering I haven't actually done my job yet

I've been in over a year and a half and I'm on hold in Prototype right now. (Nuclear Machinist Mate). But from the little taste I've had of the nuclear navy If this is anything like the fleet I'm just gonna EAS in 4 years and some change and go to college.

I have about 9,000 in student loans and a 55K mortgage. If I sell the house to eliminate the mortgage, will I have trouble enlisting with that much student loan debt?

>>34139284
no I know people with student debt in the 40,000s

>>34138515
Google suggests 2-3 months for all traces to leave your system

>SSRI use

DONT ADMIT TO IT. YOU NEVER TOOK FLUOXETINE IN YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE. I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE ELSE TELLS YOU TO SAY. DENY DENY DENY.

>>34139314
Sweet. Thanks anon

I want to join and become a leo park ranger once I get out; what's the best branch to go into if I want to do MP work?

>>34139368
Also if I have talked to my doctor about a health issue but never been formally diagnosed with anything, do I have to disclose that? I saw an opthamologist and had an mri done but they couldn't find anything abnormal.

I'm not going to lie because I don't want to fuck my chances at a career in law enforcement.

>>34139398
>I'm not going to lie because I don't want to fuck my chances at a career in law enforcement

lmfao they won't find out, the moment of truth is a meme

>>34139453
>the moment of truth is a meme
What meme is this?

>>34139453
Gotta take a polygraph test to make it into any federal law enforcement positions and a lot of local positions as well. I'm not going to break any laws.

>>34139475
Polygraph tests don't work and everyone involved with them know they don't work.
Their purpose is to scare you into saying something incriminating

>>34139470
Where the military will find out about all the weed you smoked because... well we will so you should tell us now or else

>>34139324
I take an NDRI. I assume It would also be wise for me to deny ever taking it and having any mental health issues.

>>34139492

Everyone who says this forgets the fact that an inconclusive polygraph still means you don't get hired.

The "polygraphs don't work" meme only applies to when you're taking one for a court case. It's easy to make them inconclusive so there's no good evidence for court. Inconclusive result during a job interview = "Unsuitable candidate, next."

It's really not hard to just be honest.

>>34139475
DSS and USMS dont poly for employment

>>34139368
Do you have a bachelor's by chance?

>>34136145
I trained with the/a german costal defence battalion and their level of morale was... Lacking. At least compared to my own colleagues. As I previously wrote they all seemed to want to quit but had signed, as you wrote about, multi-year contracts. It was all about the moderately high level of pay for these otherwise low-income people. They couldn't seem to grasp our willingness to serve in the military with sub-par pay and without a binding contract. They just wanted out as soon as possible. But it's just a thin slice of the German military.

>>34139830
Am currently getting one.

Can someone here redpill me on the intelligence community and what it's like to be a field op or an analyst?

>>34140083
Go into the Army and reclass in CID down the road if you want to do fed law enforcement. Am currently enlisting directly into CID but that requires a bachelor's. Getting an 1811 gig is extremely difficult unless you have prior experience investigating serious felonies.

>>34140209
What other experience do you have? I will have my bachelors in one year.

>>34137960
are you me?

>>34140128

The IC is made up of a large network of federal agencies (including the uniformed military's intelligence folks) and contractors. They collect, analyze, and disseminate various forms of intelligence to customers. Customers can be anything from low-level military commanders who needs quick and dirty intel to make tactical decisions all the way up to the president who needs in-depth reports in order to create long-term strategic policy.

Contrary to what you might see in spy movies, most modern intelligence is heavily reliant on technology and involves a lot of office work. Even those who work with human intelligence (the kind you get from talking to people) are going to spend a lot of time typing up reports and going to meetings.

There are various disciplines, but generally all intelligence follows a cycle.

1. Someone gets the raw data in whatever form it comes in - a written statement, a picture, a computer reading, for instance.

2. Someone analyzes that raw data and turns it into intelligence with actual meaning - translating a statement and adding context to it, writing notes on the picture about what is being seen, or explaining what the computer reading means, for instance.

3. Someone takes that finished intelligence "product" and disseminates it to the people that need to know. This is often done via email or spoken brief (IE, talking in front of powerpoint slides).

Not everyone is good at every step. Some of the best analysts are terrible are actually briefing that information in a way that makes sense to the people who need it. Some of the best people at getting information are terrible at understanding the context and analyzing it so that it is actually useful.

A lot of media about the IC tends to focus on that first step, getting the raw information. In reality, that's usually the easiest part of the work. Understanding what it means and getting it to the right people is what most of the IC is concerned with.

>>34140226
Few years fed work non related, master's. Not much else.

Google "CID Pilot program" for requirements

>>34139124
US Air Force gets steak and lobster in their dining facilities

>>34140317
Dude, this is fantastic.
Do u work in the IC?

>>34140452

I do, but you have to realize that the US intelligence community is literally hundreds of thousands of people. There are sixteen government agencies in the IC, and countless private firms. It's not exactly an exclusive club.

>>34140317

You forgot the part where you fend off endless inquiries from people asking about things that they want to know but shouldn't know and trying to pull rank to get it.

>>34140513
Is there any way we can communicate off site about this stuff?
I have interests in a type of intelligence analytics, but I also have a friend who wants to be a field op. He thinks that he's gonna be getting in shootouts and car chases, and he really need to sit down and talk to someone who knows what really happens out there.

>>34140560

Your friend sounds like a dumb kid. That's okay, everyone was a dumb kid at some point. I've gotten to do some cool shit during my time in the military and after, but it's always a 1000:1 ratio of humdrum daily stuff to cool shit. I'm fine with that, I enjoy the desk job life.

Just let him pursue his dreams. He'll eventually realize it isn't like the movies, but if he played his cards right he'll still land in a relatively stable and fulfilling career. If you try to disillusion him now he'll probably do something stupid like enlist infantry and ruin his life.

>>34140513

Is C3ISR good to work in or does it suffer from pants on head retardation?

>>34140798
He's intellectually decent, but he's painfully ignorant and way to brash to listen to any advice. He wants to get a degree in psychology and directly apply to the state department.
I told him he should do military but he started going off about how he didnt want to take orders.
Also, I plan on getting a bs in computer enge, a masters in stats, and maybe a PhD in AI/machine learning. Can my friends become intelligence contractors if we offer our expertise in automated data analysis/processing and infosec?

>>34140798
What specific MOS are you? 35F? Can you do field work in the 35 series, and how likely is it that you can get deployed?

>>34141169

>directly apply to the state department

Where did he get the idea that the foreign service is running around in gun battles?

>>34141281
The Bourne series, james bond, idk, other Hollywood crap? All he does in his free time is movies or tv shows when he's not swiping right on tinder or working out.

Can somebody explain the Army direct commission program for the reserves? I don't get it. It contradicts age requirements on the Army's website.

Says you can commission up to age 41. Even for JAGs on the GoArmy website, it gives the age requirement as 38.

Do these guys go to OCS? What's the difference?

For anyone here that ever went to a consult, how long did it take to hear back from the meps doctors?

I went to meps last Tuesday for a consult with a cardiologist, the guy said he thought I was fit to serve. I asked my recruiter and he said meps hasn't sent him anything.

>>34139324
I'm seeing 25 days for 99% of it to leave, here. Which source are you using?

>>34132587
I feel you ausbro ADF won't let me in for eyesight problems even though I got surgery and can see perfectly

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>>34141597
>>34139324
Nevermind, I found it. It's saying 99% in 25 days. So will I technically be safe at that point, or is it still too risky?

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How accurate are the piss tests at MEPS?

>>34141169

>He wants to get a degree in psychology and directly apply to the state department.

Tell him to get a degree that isn't trash, at least then when his state department plans fall through he'll have a worthwhile degree.

>Can my friends become intelligence contractors if we offer our expertise in automated data analysis/processing and infosec?

Doing infosec/big data for the government is a double-edged sword. On one hand, yes, if you can hold a TS/SCI and do this stuff then you'll literally get your inbox spammed weekly with recruiters asking you to come to the DC area and work contracts in the 80-140k range. On the other hand, if you're genuinely good at this stuff then you can blow those numbers out of the water elsewhere working for big tech on the coasts, or playing the start-up lottery and trying to retire at 25.

The end result is that intel folks tend to be prior military or older people with families who want the stability of working for the government (directly or indirectly). A lot of the freshfaced driven college grads want to work somewhere trendier and more lucrative.

>>34141191

I'm out now but I did some time as all-source. 35F can go into the field but deployment opportunities are entirely dependent on your unit. 35F has the widest range of possible duties/responsibilities of any intel job field by far. No two 35F careers are the same.

>>34141716
Stop smoking weed for a month you fucking loser. Wait nah if you cant do that then stay out. You are that guy.

>>34141716

If you're at all worried about it, do not go to MEPS. Your recruiter will 1000% understand. Nobody wants you to go piss hot at MEPS.

>>34138447
>sorry I joined the real military

You should have joined an English Comp class.

>>34141778
>35F has the widest range of possible duties/responsibilities of any intel job field by far.

This. The job is All Source Analysis but within that task are a variety of more specific topics (leadership analysis, economic, military, political, counter terrorism etc.). And then multiply that by region/state that you could work the portfolio for or where you could deploy and at what level and with who.

I worked Baghdad while in the J2 at Iraq but outside of that I worked regional topics in the Middle East during the second year of the Arab Spring which was different not only in scope but product tempo, length, depth, and subject.

>>34141812
I'm the same dude from
>>34141676

I want to join the airborne, but I'm worried about the damage I'm going to receive to my knees and back in the long run. Does anyone here have experience with airborne? I don't plan on making a career out of the Army, just the standard 3-4 years. Would that be enough to fuck my body up?

>>34142129
same here except i want to get deployed and do cool shit and not just hike

>>34142129

Not even in the military yet, but I did high school athletics. Quite a few of the guys I knew who went on to college cross country and other sports fucked themselves physically. Yes, even cross country. Others came out just fine. You roll the dice at your own risk.

>>34140798
how does enlisting in infantry ruin your life, i've already ruined my own life

>>34142129
did you drink lots of milk as a kid?

enlisted as corpsman back in may, ship in November, how fucked am I?

>>34142422
why would you be fucked

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74 crunches
12:40 mile and a half
0 pull ups

I head to basic in 5 months

Am I gonna make it

>>34128747
I leave monday for basic. 68W.

>>34142451
can't do 1 pull up? that's fucked, can probably get to atleast 10 in 5 months if you're actually trying

>>34142465
Pull ups are hard :[

>>34142422
Depends on where they send you.

I work in a hospital state side as an army LPN. They send corpmen here to work in clinics, or on the wards to be nursing assistants. Ie: there's a chance that you'll spend 1-2 years wiping ass, transporting patients around the hospital, getting vital signs, and doing bitch work. We let some of them take over on a patient or two, but its rare because most literally dont know anything about medicine and have to learn on the job, which is understandably difficult.

>>34142474
do bench press and lat pull downs, pushups and flex arm hang till you can do atleast 1 pullup, are you fat as hell or something

>>34142451

>Currently in the Army going on 6 years.
>Currently cannot do a single pull-up.

I pass the APFT just fine. I don't train pull-ups at all because we don't test for them and I don't give a fuck. YMMV.

>>34142475
interesting, I'm not really worried about not being able to learn whats taught I just have absolutely zero medical experience, However I initially was going for MA but that was not available so I took this and my recruiter wants me to do a PST.

>>34142451
Get a pull up bar and put it in the doorway to your room (they are like $15). Every time you walk in and out do a pullup. You will at least be able to do 10 before you leave.

>>34142497
I'm p hefty, I'm trying to lose more weight though. I weighed 182 at MEPS.

>>34142549
he can't do a pullup lol

>>34142552
im 195 and i can pump out 20, you can do it.

>>34142451
>0 pull ups
Didn't the TerminalLance guy also have this problem?

Height and weight?

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>>34142615
182
5'7"

>>34142640
I hope you enjoy your drill sargeants calling you Pvt. Chode.

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>>34142686
I can't have a different name?

>>34142705
With some luck, you'll be Cpl. Chode in no time.

>>34134909
Relax, and practice those shitty iq tests on the net, nothing serious happens in your you session

How does MEPS handle false-positives?

Do you guys know anyone who went to 68W to med school? I've got my bachelors in science and thinking of doing the military as a springboard into medicine. I've always had an interest in going medic so it sounds like a great idea if I can get it to work.

>>34142552
do bent over rows, fatty

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/k/, just stopping by cause I'm curious about some military things, and this seems like a thread were I would find vets and therefore I don't need to start another thread.
Did any of you vets or active duty guys serve from pre-9/11 days to circa 2005 in Iraq?

Or did you serve with people who did?

Recently I've been very curious about troops' experience from this time period, especially regarding why they joined, what it was like during and once they came back home. I'm graduating with a degree in history in a week and a half and I think I found a subject I want to research and hopefully write about on my spare time.

Bonus points if you're a minority.

Is it a good idea to go into Infantry at a height of 5'4? Asking for a friend here, he seems very anxious to go into the Corps.

>>34130219
They don't look at med records unless it was a hospital. Don't be a fag and say some mickey mouse bullshit. If you have arrest in your past or drug selling you're obviously not going to get the clearance.


If you smoked pot before, why write it down if we're that worried about it

>>34133508
Just don't tell them about it...

>>34134052
Damn, you must be a fat piece of shit. Good luck in boot.

What is joining military like if you already have a degree

>>34143500
I'm 5'9 130lbs skellyfag

Can people from yurop post here also? Just discovered that I was promoted to cpl after my reserve training course two weeks ago.

>>34143553
Grats, you can be an officer. Depends on what it's in. If it's a specialty with a specific military career, you'll find yourself working there. I.e. if you have a microbiology degree, you can work as a microbiologist.
If it's in something like history or liberal arts, well, godspeed. I'm sure others can chime in here because I'm in a different situation....

I'm a 66F in the Army, had a bachelor's, the Army put me through school for master's in anesthesia and here I am to fulfill 6 years.

>>34142475
Hi, 66f here :) we're rare.

>>34141492
While I did direct commission, I was nowhere near the cap. I thought it was 41 or 42....maybe that's just for medical/nursing.

Call or email a recruiter specific to your field.

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What would the military be like for a diagnosed sperg who can't socialize, banter, make idle small talk, etc? Would you be a target for harassment?

>>34135910
Hi there, I'm a CRNA O-3.

Do it.

As far as combat medic, don't. Why would you. You're a fucking doctor.

I actually used to work as a paramedic in America before, and civvy medics can do far more than 68W's. And doctors are the bosses of them, so...what you're saying is just an unrealistic scenario.

>>34135163
Actual medical O-3 here. Combat medics are enlisted. Especially seeing as how there is no college education (aside from vocational school) for medics.
>>34135163
100% correct. Even the map part, haha.

>>34144933
implying you'll get past your medical screening.

Actually, maybe the Marines will take you; par for the course.

Is it true the military is going through a pilot retention/shortage problem or was someone just messing with me when I told them about my flight aspirations?

>>34144975
There are plenty of actual doctors working as 68Ws because it means they get to actually work on the frontlines on occasion instead of sitting in a BAS. Civilian paramedics cannot do more than a 68w; they're trained in more, but that training is literally always available to medics who ask for it, they have more opportunities to use that training if they deploy, and civilian paramedics are limited to scope of practice whereas w
on deployment you're generally the closest thing to a doctor within 3 hours by helicopter and can do whatever the fuck is necessary as long as it does more good than harm. Paramedics don't get to practice on Afghani terrorists who were going to die anyway.

>>34145015
Depends what you want to fly. Army has a shortage but probably not for Apaches, air force and Navy have more opportunities for flight but less of a shortage because that's where people who want to fly gravitate towards. If you don't mind Black Hawks, Chinooks, or UAVs, you could probably do it in tbe Army.

Is it better to be an Intelligence Analyst for the Army or the Marines? What are the pros and cons of both?

>>34145349
Civilian paramedics can do more, depending on protocols. I was one for 5 years in a very liberal EMS system until I became a CRNA. I interface with many medics on a daily basis.

Your definition of front line may be different than infantry's. Heck, you could say I worked front lines but I was just on a FST. Anyone on infantry will say that was NOT on the front, heh.

I mean I live and breath this every day and you're telling me I'm in the wrong? lol...I've never heard of a doc working as a 68w as you mentioned. Not saying it hasn't happened.

>>34145558

>Not combat arms
>Army vs Marines

What the fuck are you thinking? The only time I'd go Marine Intel would be as a reservist because Intel is a secondary mos in the reserves and I could do 0311 as a primary job and get treated slightly less like shit.

>>34145567
There are a few but they're rare. Most are people with master's in another country and enlisted for citizenship, but there are some American doctors mixed in, especially in the Guard, as well as a fuckton of paramedics in non-medical MOSs.

FSTs are cool but I was thinking along the lines of medics in dismounted infantry, especially airborne units.

How long between signing a contract and shipping out to basic?

I know if you have a BA degree, you enlist with a higher rank, but does it matter what your degree is in?

>>34145349
There are definitely no Doctor 68Ws. Only way is if they went to a Caribbean medical school and didn't know match into a residency so they enlisted.

>>34143481

>If you have arrest in your past or drug selling you're obviously not going to get the clearance.


Currently working with people who've done both of these things in the past, and they have TS/SCI clearances.

It depends how long ago it was and what you've done to turn your life around. The list of stuff that will actually get you denied if you tell them about it is super small. Doing a bunch of dumb shit growing up doesn't make you a security risk unless you're trying to hide it.

>>34144907

>>34143553

If you enlist you'll get advanced rank (E-4 in the Army, E-2 in the Marines, E-3 in Navy/Air Force).

>If it's a specialty with a specific military career, you'll find yourself working there.

To be clear, that is pretty much ONLY direct commissioning medical fields and lawyers. If you have an engineering degree, they won't make you an engineering officer, if you have a CompSci degree they won't make you a technology officer. For 99 % of officers, major has no bearing on where they end up.

>>34145776

For advanced rank when enlisting with a degree, no, it doesn't matter what the degree is in.

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I really hope the French army won't refuse me because of some teeth problem.

What type of degree do you need to be an intelligence analyst once you get out of the military? I'll have a degree before enlisting, but credits have screwed me over to where I'm going to have a shitty liberal arts degree when I graduate. Will this fuck me when I try to find civilian work in the intelligence community?

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I'm gonna tell my recruiter that I can't go to MEPS because I'm gonna be pissing hot and that he can drop me from his pool if he likes.

Obviously he most likely won't want to deal with me in the future, but will that impede me from going to other recruiters as well?

>>34144933
I hear SIGINT loves you guys.

Do you play Magic the Gathering?

>>34146248
You're a fucking retard.
Just stay out of the military.
If you do get in you'll get a dishonorable discharge anyways and be worse off.
Go work at a medical marijuana dispensary you fucking hippie.

>>34145015
Just to confirm, you're aware that flight is tricky to get into? Short of Embry-Riddle/Purdue/etc. ROTC and good flight results, or AF academy you've got good odds of just getting shunted into a mechanic role (army) or MPs (air force).

I looked at aviation some a while back, and a lot of people didn't seem to get that they really want people who already have a clue about flying, be it a Cessna or glider. They don't want to teach you to fly if they can avoid it.

>>34145558
The reason POGs get the most shit from the Marines is because all the support-element actually-useful POGs are from the Navy.

Don't be stupid. If you want to do HUMINT, go Army. I don't know why you'd be asking about Intel for only the ground-pounding doorkicker branches otherwise.

>>34146446

>Short of Embry-Riddle/Purdue/etc. ROTC and good flight results, or AF academy you've got good odds of just getting shunted into a mechanic role (army) or MPs (air force).

Mechanics and MPs are enlisted roles, flying is a commissioned role. There's basically zero chance that you "fail" a pilot pipeline and become enlisted. Plenty of people give up during the application process and decide to enlist, but that's a far cry from being forced into those roles.

In terms of the best way to ensure you get to fly, the Army's warrant officer flight training program will let you apply off the street and you don't even join the Army unless you're accepted to go to pilot training. It's 99.9% rotary wing though.

>>34145630
Not the guy you've been responding to, but you're stating this "doctors as 68W" thing like it's fact. I've heard nothing about it, the guy you're talking to has heard nothing about it.

Where'd you hear it from? If I'm following the conversation chain right, it looks like you're the med school guy looking to join up.Did you get this information off a coworker, a recruiter, or what?

>>34146248
Just say that you're not really sure about signing yet.

>>34146491

That dude is high. Doctors don't enlist as 68Ws. Doctors young enough to enlist would have so much student loans that their entire 68W paycheck would go into it and not even make a dent every month. Older doctors who are out from under their student loans would be too old to serve.

If qualified doctors wanna go out innawoods and do surgery out of a tent in shithole countries, there are actual charity programs that will pay them decent money to do that.

>>34146491
I'm not that guy, I am an active duty 68W and I've met several licensed doctors in the same MOS. It happens.

>>34146402
It was prescribed pain meds for a dislocated shoulder.

>>34146541
You can be honest about that, you're recruiter will not give you shit and understand. Do know that your recruiter will work with you and needs people to successfully get through MEPS and sign because that's his job. It's not like you were on meth or jenkem so you'll be good dude.

>>34146539

Worked in a military hospital for two years, never met a single 68W that was a licensed doctor in the US.

Foreigners with degrees who couldn't bring their credentials to the US and wanted to get citizenship by enlisting? Yes.

Dudes with undergrad degrees in biology that intended to use their 68W time to give some "oomph" to a med school application? Absolutely.

Licensed medical doctors in the United States? Nope, never. I don't believe you.

>>34146551
Forgot to say, he will probably be mildly annoyed if you never said anything about it in the first place when you were filling out your initial paperwork. Just be honest and he'll most likely have you correct your paperwork.

>>34146554
I went to AIT with 3, 2 were Guard. I met another since. I wouldn't do it either, I am only saying they exist.

>>34146446
>>34145366

I'm currently trying to get my PPL. I realize it's really hard to fly in the Air Force or Navy going through OCS/OTS, but I'm certainly giving it a shot. Definitely considering flying rotary in the Army though. I contacted an Army recruiter once, he actually seemed to want to get me there, which is awesome.

>>34146693
>a recruiter seemed happy that a guy was calling in to see about getting recruited

Are Air Force recruiters actually as nasty as the memes want me to believe?

>>34146574

Reminds me of that guy from a couple of /MEG/s ago that said his boss as a mall cop was a retired 2-star.

I'm more willing to believe you got bamboozled by AIT bluster. There's absolutely no point in a licensed MD enlisting, even in the guard.

>>34146742
I'd be willing to believe the mall-cop guy if his story made any sense. I had a boss at a grocery store who drove a fucking Ferrari to work and had his own helicopter that he flew to Vegas on the weekends, he just liked working long hours doing manual labor and had enough money that he didn't need a real job.

As for the doctors I've met, all 3 were definitely knowledgeable enough, the right age (between 30-35) and intended on being flight medics or something of the sort. The guy I met after AIT didn't finish his degree till he was already in the Army but stayed enlisted.

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Is the Air Force's "substandard living allowance" real?

>>34146084
Thanks for clarifying, correct, this is what I meant (I guess it was implied due to the rest of what I said...) readiung comphehenzhiun iz gud

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Which branch is the Chloe Moretz of the military?

Which military branch has the most fucked up looking bodies?

>>34146998
Alot of the dorms have mold and structural issues, its just as bad as every other branch. The thing is, if you live on an air base, you aren't getting shit.

If you live in the same shitty housing/barracks but on a USMC or Army base, than you get the additional pay. The Air Force gets around this by assigning less personnel to joint bases.

Also Air Force NCOs in charge of dorms WILL steal your shit if they feel they can. So don't own anything you like until you can escape the dorms.

>>34147316
Air Force

>>34146738
Air Force recruiters only signed up for that duty to fuck underage chicks. If you aren't an underaged chick, you don't get any positive treatment.

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Is it true that all enlisted make shit life choices and I should ignore any bit of non-operational advice they give?

>>34145558
>Is it better to be an Intelligence Analyst for the Army or the Marines?

Army. USMC is a cult and it will turn you into a shitty analyst.

>>34145718
First time signing is up to you/when spots are available. You can be in the DEP for up to a year.

Second time signing is when you actually commit to the military. You do this the day before you ship.

>>34147494

Not all enlisted. The Jewish ones I know all invested their money wisely in diverse, tax incentivized portfolios. So, uh, hang with some Jews.

>>34146224
>What type of degree do you need to be an intelligence analyst once you get out of the military?

Literally any degree. Literally. Any. Degree.

>I'll have a degree before enlisting, but credits have screwed me over to where I'm going to have a shitty liberal arts degree when I graduate.

What major?

>Will this fuck me when I try to find civilian work in the intelligence community?

No. In fact you'll be in a good place because your clearance will be recent, your experience will be recent, and you'll have a degree already. Honestly having a degree is just to screen people out.

There isn't really a degree program that will make you a good analyst. Majors that require a lot of analytical writing are a plus as far as developing your analytical ability and writing competency. Depending on the university you go to there might be a DIA ICCAE program (there's less than 20 in the US) which means the university is likely to offer classes centered around intelligence and offer extra opportunities to network.

I waited to go to school until I got out and I was able to do my undergrad at a university with an ICCAE program (and pick up a minor from it). It gave me a chance to network. I volunteered for every ICCAE hosted event I could, usually as an escort for guest speakers so I would get to have personal conversations, eat lunch with the person/people, and exchange information. I also got to take some of the classes offered through the program to see what the academic side of analysis was like (undergrad prof who advised me on a bunch of shit including grad school taught an Intelligence Analysis class).

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How pushy will my recruiter be to figure out what I was on if I told him I wanted to wait a few months for MEPS?

I have a prescription for it but it's an SSRI so I don't want to bring anything up because of how likely it is to DQ me.

Will he be cool if I just said I wanted to wait to get clean and he won't try to pry?

>>34147624
>What major?
I'm not entirely sure yet. I came in for a History degree (which I know is shitty in it's own right), but I came in with so many credits without realizing it that I could potentially graduate after this winter, without getting all of the required history hours I need for a history degree. So, my actual major will depend on what my credits get me, and it'll probably be with a History minor. I do a lot of analytical writing though for my higher level classes, so that should help me out for analysis.

Anyone here work with Leidos after they got out of the military? Apparently they're one of the best companies for hiring Vets. Is it good work?

Likeliness of getting into a fire fight if I join the Marines or Army? Or is infantry just sitting in some desert in California?

>>34147769
>I do a lot of analytical writing though for my higher level classes

I've found the 400/4000 level classes to be hit or miss sometimes. Luckily I happened to run into and befriend a faculty member who teaches undergrad and graduate level courses on intelligence, terrorism, war and conflict etc. (and contacts outside of academia) who emphasizes analytical writing.

While there is the standard long form paper due at the end of the class there are also 5-10 shorter 1 page or shorter papers due that force you to actually think about the given topic. Which is much more realistic for actual analysis. When I was at the J2 in Iraq 90+% of what I worked on involved an analyst comment that was maybe a few sentences. At the ARCENT G2 I wrote the first draft of a white paper but it still got cut down significantly and most of the products I created were very short. You need to be able to pack a lot of substance into a small amount of text. Working on this will really help you.

>>34147824
Christ you're dumb.

Go watch Generation Kill and the Restrepo documentary.

Then ask yourself what year those took place in, and what current conflicts the US is directly and actively involved in.

>>34147842
I appreciate the help

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Anyone 19D?

Where did you go for BCT?

Want to know what OSUT was like, specific things I should train for? How often do you use NVD, if at all?

>>34147881
>How often do you use NVD, if at all?

As a civilian all the cool gadgets like NODs and the guns all look cool as fuck and fun to play with.

And then you get in and realize 90% of the time you're not doing anything cool and even when you do it's not fun at all. And you'll get over wanting to play with the cool gadgets the first time you get issued one that is fucked up and get threatened with a statement of charges that's like $2000.

>>34147781

I turned down a job offer from Leidos. They're one of the megacontractors that does tons of different stuff. Their bennies package and compensation looked good, I just wasn't interested in moving where they wanted me and I had other offers on the table.

>That moment when you realize that an average Coastie probably sees more action doing LE work in a busy port than an infantryman during peacetime

>>34147899
I'm not looking to COD, I know that's not how the Army works.

Simply asking if they get used, if so, how often?

>>34147937
>Simply asking if they get used, if so, how often?

You will more likely than not never actually use them after the night fire familiarization in basic training.

>>34148001
were you 19D?

I lied about having aspergers. Will they find out in a TS background check

>>34148187
It didn't stop Bowe Bergdahl

>>34148187

Aspergers isn't disqualifying for a TS.

>>34148187
>I lied
why would you do that. If they find out, you're boned.

>>34145558
Army. Easy to get Airborne in initial contract, high possibility of getting into a SOF unit. From there you have your pick of schools to go to for professional and military development while having the best conditions of any unit in the Army. If you want to assuredly get into SOF and do cool guy shit then go to RASP(not many analyst pass) and go to the Ranger Regiment where you will get awesome experience at the cost of a tough lifestyle.

Marines have less money as a branch so you get less opportunity to go to development schools and less training for your job. You also get fucked with more by your leadership and the Corps in general. Plus with the exception of Recon and MARSOC, Marines are dirty legs.

>>34128747
I'm trying to decide between either being a naval engineer or doing pararescue with the Air Force.
Does anyone have any pros/cons of either to help me decide?

>>34149189

If you CAN be a pararescueman then be a pararescueman. As to naval engineering do you have a degree?

>>34149285
I don't have a degree. I just graduated high school less than a month ago. I thought there'd be training and I have some knowlege of engineering.

>>34149348

I think the only rate for that is engineering aide.

Going in the Army with a master's; is there anything I can do with TA or is it useless for me?

>>34149365
Got it. Thanks for the help.

>>34147824
For some reason everyone in these threads lately think we're just done with fighting.
There's boots on the ground in Afghanistan and Trump is in talks to send more.
If you join infantry at this time you might not deploy soon but we've been actively killing people for decades and we arent going to stop anytime soon. If you want combat you might have to do more than one term but eventually we will be in another conflict.
If you want a higher chance of deploying to combat get motivated and join some SOF.

>>34138217
>>34138303
>>34138448
its fast and easy if your a perfect human bean with no medical visits, issues and no police record. I talked to a recruiter on may 1st, went into dep may 5th, shipping out end of june

>>34149382

TA won't pay for post-graduate courses, sorry lad.

>>34139284
you might have trouble getting a security clearance which eliminates some jobs. not sure what the limit is but having debt is a factor

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I got kicked because I shitposted on shitpost, saying that /pol/ is shit

/pol/ still remains the easiest board to troll

>>34149776

Seriously guys, stop with this. If you don't know anything about the clearance adjudication process stop wildly speculating.

Mortgages don't matter, since they're secured debt, unless you're defaulting on them or they're ridiculous (2 million dollar mortgage and you obviously have no income). Student loans don't matter either, again unless you're not paying them.

Debt that matters for clearances is significant amounts of high-interest unsecured debt (payday loans/credit cards) and debt in default.

>>34149741
Don't get that perfect ass raped in the shower at boot, fag

>>34139284
I seriously doubt it. Think of how many dumbass PFCs go out and get a loan on a brand new truck.

>>34149763
Yeah I know, can I use it for other courses? Languages courses and shit

>>34148187
When was the diagnosis?
Can you convincingly say you simply forgot to mention it, because for example the diagnosis was as a child?

>>34146391
I looked into joining SIGINT
They only take the sperg majors
Kinda wish I finished mine

>>34149741
Maybe if you just go in for army infantry

>>34128747
Is it possible to enlist if you have been on antidepressants?

>>34130151
Yea dude, it's no joke. You will lose a shitload of weight because they hardly feed you and you never get sleep. Even then they will make you ruck with over 110 lbs for long distances, sometimes neck deep in swamps. Shit will fuck you up

>>34142451
You are fast, I envy you.

But seriously, you sound like a stick, have you even tried pull ups? Much easier to do stick mode.

>>34150914
I'm fat dude. When I lose the weight I feel like I'll be able to do pull ups. I feel straight up 50 pounds overweight because I'm only 5'7".

>>34150914
I'm a stick too
Lanky people have difficulty with upper body shit because the leverages are shit
Shorter arms mean strong leverage ratio
Long arms means shit leverage

I can DL 2.5x my bench
It's horrible

>>34150973
I know your pain fellow 5'7 fatty

>>34150973
>>34151006
Short fatties are bench monsters though
You got that going for you

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A Muslim with a machete is approaching

Which branch is least like to defend himself? Which branch is more like to hold their hands up and say "hey calm down" before dying like a pussy, instead of fighting for their life?

>>34151058
Black man by far.

>all those white manlets
kek

>>34151058
Why is the air force guy so oddly wide? Do they feed them pure estrogen?

>>34151058

Well in that exact situation the guys who actually kicked a terrorist's ass on a train were the Air Force guys.

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Trying to get Airborne in my initial contract. Thing is, my astigmatism is fucked. 3.7 diopters. From what I've read, this bitch will need a waiver.

How realistic would it be for me to push for an exception to policy for this? In every other respect I'm a 1 on PULHES.

>>34151109
Wasn't one also reserve or ANG?

>>34151109
Never forget Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force Spencer Stone.

>>34151698
Damn that's an ugly loli

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>>34151795
Sometimes better.

>>34151698
Good fucking luck mate

I got rejected on -3.5 diopter eyes for fucking drone shit

AF is harsh as fuck

Anybody gone into the Army as a Warrant Officer?
What was the process like?

>>34152092
How do you start as a Warrant Officer?

>>34152243
The USAREC website seems to indicate you can go in as a WO ifyour applying for flight WO.
http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/prerequ/woft.shtml

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Officer candidates may find this video fairly interesting

Enlisted please move along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC5KngTz4Sk

>>34152651
Can you please summarize this video, it's over an hour long

t. soon to be rotc cadet

>>34152651
I'm drunk as fuck now but apparently I'm gonna be an officer soon

I'll try to watch it

Do they have time for glory in the infantry?
Do they have the time for praises loudly sung?

I'm currently set to ship for boot camp at Parris, but I recently found out that all of my family has a history of going to San Diego because we're Texans. I currently live in Tennessee which is why I would be going East. Should I ask for a request to head to California? What's the rivalry between West and East Marines? Just fun or some hard truths behind it?