Are shoulder holsters retarded? I've heard a lot of

>>34103550
go away Callum

>>34103557
I'm not Callum. I read the Callum thread and started worrying that I was retarded for buying a shoulder holster.

>>34103550

>denim shirt
>Denim jeans
cant get more fudd than this

I think they have a purpose for a Smith and Wesson 29 or similar.

For a smaller handgun they're not really necessary.

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>>34103584
so Jay Leno is a fudd?

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It's the only way I can think of to hide a gun in something like this.

>No belt

>>34103584
Needs a denim jacket

>>34103606
pretty much

It's a good choice for some, like professional drivers, but it requires a lot of practice to draw smoothly and safely. If wardrobe is the concern then I would say a tuckable iwb setup is better especially from a combatives perspective

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>>34103550
Only when not paired with ankle holsters

>>34103584
jean jacket, bolo tie and a cowboy hat

>>34103619
He said fudd, not canadian.

>>34103550

s-h are great if you get in/out of cars alot

or even sitting down getting up/down etc

ignore the idjits

>>34103644
I go pocket/ankle, but yeah, that would be a good setup

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>>34103550
Pros
>quick access while sitting down
>can conceal larger/heavier guns

Cons
>you pretty much have to keep your jacket on

People also like to complain about the direction of the muzzle

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>>34103645
/fak/ when?

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>>34103550
OP, go big or go home.

>>34103689
i unironically kind of like this even though i know i'd look like a tool in it

>>34103683
shoulder rigs with big semi autos screams 80's cop show. I remember when X Files first started and I was confused as fuck when I saw Mulder with the hip holster

>>34103693
>denim jeans
>denim-colored shirt
fudd.

>>34103719
> Ivory/bone grips
> Night sights
> No brown belt

Possible, but doubtful.

>>34103713
Well that IS Don Johnson
He shoulder carried a Bren Ten in the Miami Vice series

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Not op but what does /k/ think of tanker holsters?
Was looking at getting one for in the woods carry.

Can police officers carry like this?
I see alot wearing black or blue plate carriers with all their shit on them and wondered if they could carry, "tactical" like this.

>>34103805
never owned one but i like the idea for a revolver

>>34103550
Vertical holster a best.
Pros:
>You can CC absurdly large guns, with weight being the only real factor.
>Good if you sit down and stand up a lot, ex; if you're a professional driver
>'80s buddy-cop as fuck, which makes it cool
>Vertical shoulder rig keeps your muzzle pointed at the floor, just in case, and conceals better
Cons:
>You have to practice your draws (you should anyway)
>You always have to have a jacket on, even if it's just a wispy thin one
>You may not find it easy to find a shoulder rig for your gun

I love shoulder carry, since up here, concealment ability is more important than draw speed, which can still be surprisingly fast with practice.

>>34103584
>1911
>oh ...wait

>>34103994

Who makes a good vertical my dude?

I was thinking about getting one for pretty much all of the reasons you just listed. I have to get up and down a lot, so that pretty much rules out AIWC and IWC still isn't the best from a sitting position and you can't necessarily carry larger guns like AIWC lets you.

The only problem, like you pointed out, is the whole jacket thing but that really isn't the biggest deal in the world.

>>34105373
Depends on your gun. Galco has a good selection.

>>34105373
Not him, But bianchi is tops

>>34105420

>nothing for CZ

Story of my fucking life.

>>34103550
Good for heavier guns like a 4" barrel revolver.

I think vertical is better than horizontal though.

>>34105441
You could always spend a hundred bucks on a custom holster.

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>>34103550
>>34103693
>pic related
i don't have a problem with shoulder holsters, but i have a problem with holsters that point a pistol anywhere put into the ground. murphy's law is always in effect and i don't trust anyone but myself when it comes to firearms. a gun's barrel should always be pointing in a safe direction until it's needed to be used. directly behind you or to your left or right is not a safe direction.

>>34105505
>the gun might spontaneously go off by itself!
>even in a level 3 retention holster!

>>34105520
https://youtu.be/paxk_LPmdMI

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>>34103805

I have an M12 on an M13 chest harness that I use when 4x4ing. Not the fastest draw but quite secure.

>>34105505
>spend all day with with iwb holster pointed at asshole
>never worry about it
so why worry about this?

>>34105530
The barrel was pointing at the ground you fucktard
>I only trust myself
>with guns pointing at the ground
You need to stop posting now, nogunz

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>>34103550
in my expericne
>usually more expensive, for a good one you want a custom rig
>therefore you mus built it yourself
>slightly awkward to draw from if youre used to IWB/OWB
>the draw time IS slower, its just a fact
>they can get tangled easily and its a bitch to un do, have a separate coat hanger for it
>awkward at first, feels like youre wearing a back pack
that being said theyre pretty cool, way more comfortable then waste band carrying and I get to carry full size no matter the weather. I recommend people at least try them

>>34105541
The (poorly articulated) point was that fucking up the draw can mean a finger on the trigger at exactly the wrong moment, which that video demonstrates.

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>>34105520
>the gun might spontaneously go off by itself!
i didn't fucking say that did i jackass? why don't you re-educate yourself on the rules of gun safety.
>>34105537
i don't carry in any way that it points at myself. but even if i did, it's not pointing in a direction that would harm anyone else. if someone fucks up a draw and wounds themselves that's strictly their own fault. but if someone fucks up a draw and wounds someone else unintentionally, that's fucking retarded.

>>34105572
Do you always carry your rifle bags vertically to avoid sweeping anyone with the gun enclosed inside?

You're fucking autistic

>>34103584
I'm a welder and I get self conscious when I accidentally wear matching denim.

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>>34105594
>Do you always carry your rifle bags vertically to avoid sweeping anyone with the gun enclosed inside?
actually yea i do. i walk out onto a range with my rifle or shotgun slung in safe direction or in a bag with the barrel pointed down. it's a courtesy to not point a firearm in an unsafe direction. i've refused to shop at certain stores because of their employees and customers actions while handling a firearm.

nothing made me rage more than seeing a butter bar at the far right of a pistol range draw his m9 out of his chest holster and flag the shit out of the entire firing line. meanwhile there were people like you telling me not to worry because they've never heard of a report of an incident caused by that particular setup. in my opinion there should be no reason to justify unsafe use of a firearm. murphy is always around for when you least expect it.

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>>34103606
what's with car guys having zero fashion sense?

>>34105520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGyglYqeoM

>>34103550
They work but for cc are kind of a product of a time when fullsized semi auto handguns were nearly your only option.

>>34103666
Courier here. I use shoulder holster whenever I have to cc, for this reason. Also good for when I'm on a motorcycle. Plus my holster is fitted to me and my gun (brother in law is in the leatherwork trade and "tailored" it for me, so to speak).
If you're an average Joe normal belt holsters are better. It's how I cc when I'm not working because that way I can take my jacket off without causing a scene.
Callum is still a retard.

>>34103683
Pros
>quick access
>can conceal larger/heavier guns
>extra mag pouches
>better ease of movement
>less weight on your belt, less shit strapped to your belt
>can tuck your shirt in without needing a special supertuck IWB holster
>easier to slide your hand in your jacket than rip your shirt up and draw
>can safely take a shit without removing gun from person
>if you carry IWB, an extra gun is easier to carry in a shoulder holster than in an ankle holster or belly band

Cons
>have to keep your jacket on
>if not pointed down, muzzle direction can be no bueno
>hugs are disqualified unless you go both arms under, which could look gay
>requires extra clothing (shirt+jacket)

Pretty much all this. I carry my main CC (G20SF) in a shoulder holster and keep my back-up gun and extra gear on my belt. It's a lot of extra weight, but it balances itself out and since I'm a fat fellow wearing baggier clothes, I don't print.

Shoulder Holster
>10mm G20SF Gen 3 (15+1rds)
>2 spare 15rd mags

Belt
>9mm CZ 2075 (14+1rds)
>1 spare 19rd mag for CZ
>flashlight
>fixed-blade knife

Pockets
>phone
>wallet
>utility pocket knife

Sometimes I swap out the CZ 2075 and mag for my .44spc Bulldog, depending on where I'm going, if it's the city or in the woods. I used to tote a CZ-85b 9mm instead of the G20SF but I switched up a few months ago.

>>34105759
>can safely take a shit without removing gun from person

My biggest concern realized.

>>34105766
Just keep your gun on top of the toiletpaper dispenser and don't forget it like a mong.

>>34105759

For the love of god, tell me what holster you use for the 2075.

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>>34103550
They're limited in terms of the ways you can carry concealed (need a coat or something on top).

On the other hand, they look boss as h*ck.

>>34103550
>pros
you can LARP as a TV show detective

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>>34105780
Not really sure. I bought it for $20 at a gun show and everything on the guy's table was in a clear ziplock bag with the price marked with black sharpie. It looks just like pic related but it's mahogany colored. Very light, snug and simple.

>>34105759

bruh you seriously have a shoulder holster and a belt holster

I live in the fucking ghetto and I've had to pull my piece before and I just appendix carry that shit

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>>34105774
>be anon
>shitting inna Walmart bathroom
>set pistol down on the poopaperbox
>mid-wipe, see some dude peeking through the crack by the stall door
>dude's glaring straight thru anon's eyeballs and deep into your soul
>BANG! dude kicks the stall door open, throws a handful of hot diarrhea into anon's face
>snatches anon's pistol and takes off sprinting out of the bathroom
>finish wiping your ass
>there's no toilet paper left
>you still have some dude's hot diarrhea all over your face and shirt

thats why I carry a .50GI 1911 in my shoulder holster

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>>34106269
>not tactically blocking the stall gap

>>34106299
>that pic

Nuh-uh. Fuck off, not even nutnautism would post this.

>>34106235
I work for a business security company, and the company's policy for armed guards assigned to banks in rural areas requires a sidearm and a back up gun mandatory, and we can apply for rifle approval if the client company allows it, but it stays in the control room unless the need arises.

One of the other guards I work with carries a G17 as his sidearm and a G19 as his back up, and they're both on his duty belt in owb holsters.

They let us use our own guns for the job but they have to meet a certain criteria
>only approved manufacturers
Glock, S&W, HK, SIG, Beretta, Ruger, Colt, CZ, Kimber, Para, Springfield, etc... no Taurus, RIA, Hi-Point, Walther, Browning, Rem, etc

>only approved calibers
9mm, .40 S&W, 45 ACP, 357 SIG, 10mm, .38 Special, .357 Mag, .44 Spec, .44 Magnum
Some dudes tried to get 5.7 on the approved list but it was vetoed as "not a service caliber".
>no blowback
>no RMR or optics on pistols
>no suppressors
>no extendos or drums on pistols
>no Mexican carry
>no FMJ
>no uncle Mike's or Blackhawk holsters
>only approved ammo brands (basically no Tula or wolf)

>>34103611
>let me unbutton all these buttons first

>>34105672
>Guns are the most fashionable item ever.

>>34106328
>>34106299
I just woke up everyone in the house/

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>>34106235
>I live in the ghetto bruh
>I had to pull my piece before bruh
underage b&

>>34106368
I mean, I'm pretty sure the pockets are fake, and the skirt doesn't have any belt loops. Both are common for female clothing. It's not ideal, but you wear what you gotta wear for the dress code.

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>>34106364
what about .454s

>>34106403
In that case, I should get them to approve 7.62x54 so I can take my Obrez to work on casual fridays.

>>34106418
just remember to get your tax stamp for that SBR pistol, assuming it applies to bolt actions... I'm actually not even sure

>>34106439
Yes an Obrez cut down from a Mosin is an SBR. The action has nothing to do with it.
Of course you can also make an Obrez from scratch and have it just be a pistol.

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>>34106364
>putting Walther in the same category as that other filth

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>>34106269
>shoulder carry 1911
>not full-giggle UZI
get with the program, nerd.

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>>34106299
>>34106328
>>34106380
Here you go.

https://www.["facebook" goes here, fuck spam filters].com/nutnfancy%20/posts/383424455324276

>>34106364
>no hi point
>no RIA
>no Browning
What? Those all work fine.

>>34106499
They don't want the poors working for them.

I am legitimately contemplating opening up a budget gun shop in my state with a focus on self defense and prepping. I feel the biggest barrier to entry for this hobby is cost and the snobbery of established (older) gun owners scoffing at what amounts to the house brand of jeans.

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>>34106299
>guy pokes the toilet paper cover off the door with a fork
>right back to square 1

>>34103550
it all comes down to if you are an asshole that open carries like this, or you wear the shoulder rig t conceal carry or not.

I wear a rather concealable shoulder rig with a dress vest at work (hotel job, Manager) and have had no issues printing or showing others that I am packing my 1911.

Works even better with my sports jacket.

Question is do you want to be a "operator" or do you want to be a "grey man"

If either answer you're a fudd.

>>34106499
Some manufacturers have been disallowed (like Hi Point), and some just haven't been added because the company hasn't added them to the list yet. I don't know what their criteria for manufacturers is, but Ive heard that Walther was actually removed at one point because somebody working in the city had to draw their sidearm in the parking lot of a luxury handbag store and his gun jammed and the thief got away with a Gucci purse. Turned out the guard had a P38 with Hydra Shoks and the security company was pissed off about it.

Most requests to approve other manufacturers are declined with "does not meet service weapon requirements". Back up guns are usually immediately auto-approved for those that can or have to carry them, as long as your BUG is in the approved caliber and basically isn't a derringer.

>>34106536
I just want to carry as many weapons as conveniently possible without consideration for any aspect of my social appearance whatsoever. I think that's an "edgy fudd".

>>34106299
To wet the paper he would have to dip the paper into something wet... He's inside a stall...

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>>34106484
>tfw can't get a PP2000 to shoulder carry

>>34103584
Or hipster. Denim on denim is still big.

>>34103550

If you are driving a lot it a comfortable set up and works well.

The problem comes on the draw. You need to make sure you're not sweeping yourself but the real issue is how do you quickly draw and fire from a position of retention?

The answer is you don't. The draw is across your chest which can get your arm pinned or trapped by an attacker.

>>34105774
Yeah don't lay it down in the floor like fucking Callum and get your shit stolen by a nigger in the adjacent stall

>>34106537
> P38
> Duty weapon

How fucking oddball was that guy?

>>34106364
>(no) Walther, Browning
Yeah, because those are almost unknown manufacturers of boubtful quality like Taurus, right?

Tsk, tsk...

(Anon, the sarcasm is aimed at your bosses, not at you)

>>34106364
>no blowback

Oh I see how it is, you got a problem with my dick grips??

>>34105667
You sound like a blast at parties

It's just another tool, I don't care for the meme arguing over it. Just like anything it should be deployed based on carry needs.

I have one,a horizontal one. Blackhawk brand, shoulder harness that uses the existing serpa holsters.

It's not practical all the time, but when deployed correctly it's nice.

> Wear it under your outermost layer for easy access to gun while layered up for work out doors
> Easy to access while seated in the drivers seat of a vehicle.
> Great way to have your bed gun, because you can hang it at head level from the bedframe
> quick way to arm yourself, with a gun/ammo/accessories while in atypical clothes (PJ's for instance).

It's an option to have, which is nice. It's clutch though, gotta deploy it right.

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>>34106484
Why only one tough?

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>>34107317
>implying gun safety is directly related to ones ability to party hardy
kys

>>34105667
>check out this fucking square

>>34105667
The only issue I see with this is giving a butterbar the m9.
My psg wouldn't let me near one until he knew I knew my shit. I was mildly offended at first, then I've seen the quality of officer in my brigade and realized he was pretty on point to be skeptic.

>>34106537
>Shooting a guy over a purse
Where the fuck do you live

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>>34107662
Gucci purses can cost up to $2500, anon. That's the entire price of a pre-owned car.

>>34105598
Nothing wrong with it really. for a working man its a good choice because its so tough, durable and longlasting. and not real expensive.

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>>34103713
With a revolver you could go 1960s detective show

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>>34106544

>>34108734
How does he draw that?

>>34108751
>Tackleberry goes on a date.jpg

>>34108764
Judging by how his right hand is wrapped up I imagine he doesnt draw that gun at all.

>>34105520
>level 3 retention holster!
That's a level 2 in the pic.

>>34105505
My thought is thus:
>probably the single most comfortable way to carry
>someone has to get in your face in order to take it
>a soldier, will not let anyone get that close to him except for photo ops
>a soldier, will more likely than not never draw that pistol in his entire career and has even less reason to than a cop because he has a rifle
For the emergency weapon of a soldier, not a bad choice

>>34106299
I saw somebody doing this IRL this weekend and immediately thought of nutn. It was so hard not to bust out laughing.

>>34106299
> Finish up
> Wash hands
> Right before you walk out, calmly say "We all know what you're doing in there."

>>34109412
chest holsters on your kit are a meme. how are you going to transition your rifle to your non dominate side with your gat piece in the way. you will get mocked if you don't have your sidearm on your belt or on a drop leg.

>>34108751
Ultimate new york reload

>>34103584
>no denim holster

Not even trying.

>>34103693
filename is reapers motto

>>34105598
You should, try for more contrasting colors or shades

>>34105672
That was fashionable when Jeremy Clarkson was that age.

>>34103550
>>34103578
>>34103805
>>34103994
>>34105505
>>34105572
>>34105667
>>34105672
>>34106220
>>34106364
>>34106484
>>34106833

https://youtu.be/mfGKUg9yCBU?t=12m34s

>>34103550
I switched to a shoulder holster after I had my gun stolen in that bathroom when i was takin a shit.

>>34111666
Should have smeared some poo on it, marked your territory.

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>>34103550
The vertical ones good for comfortably CC-ing (with a jacket) full-size and long barrel/slide without destroying making an obvious silhouette. The draw is a bit funny and practice is an absolute most if you plan on carrying like that.

Horizontal holsters are a bit more natural on the draw, but obviously bigger guns will be harder to conceal if you're not a thick dude.

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>>34106269
>>34106299

bunch of limp-dick casuals itt

>>34111647
>not lt col nutn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQGPCo_NBMY

>>34111647
Thanks anon, that was a genuinely useful video

>>34111647
i love paul.
his production value and editing skill is trash (though better than it used to be) but he gives really level-headed analysis without sounding like a blowhard. i even like his stupid dad-tier jokes

>>34108654
Places like that generally have insurance. Having armed guards may save you some theft insurance if you sell luxury goods because of the deterrence. Having armed guards actually shoot someone probably increases the chance they'll get sued and will make the insurance companies unhappy. Insurance rules the world, anon

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>>34112452
>10 reasons
>32 minutes

>>34113033
i feel like you could edit every single nutnfancy video to be 90% shorter and get the same amount of useful information.

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>>34105672

>>34113058

Someone used to do this but nutnautism had their channel shut down.

>>34113058
One guy did just that. Nutn had YouTube shut him down. Nutnfancy Abridged was one of the better things to come out of /k/ recently.

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>>34112168
>Posts vertical shoulder holster.
>Doesn't have the decency to find a picture with loaded weapons.

This is /k/ dammit.

>>34113436
agreed.

>>34103584
>Realtree shirt
>Realtree pants
Your move.

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>>34106946
>You need to make sure you're not sweeping yourself but the real issue is how do you quickly draw and fire from a position of retention?
Modified cavalry draw?

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>>34103550
I carry my G34 in a shoulder holster under a zip-up hoodie when cold weather comes around. Pretty comfy and after a bit of practice I'm able to draw fairly quick.

I use a shoulder holster for my 1911. I put an unbuttoned shirt over the top and no one has ever noticed it. It's very comfy. I use iwb when I carry my m&p compact. All about time and place.

>>34105667
You better be raging all the time. If I'm standing in front of you in a line somewhere, there is a 45 pointed straight at you.

Horizontal shoulder rig for the win

Wanna be RSO can go suck a bag of dicks

>>34109613
Chest holsters are to ensure you can draw if someones pins you cowgirl style.

>>34103550
With they way modern holsters have developed they are while still an effective holstering method not as practical as they once where. That being said if you're wearing a suit and want to look cool as fuck a leather shoulder holster, (so long as it matches you're belt and shoes) is the most AESTHETIC way to carry a classy metal gun like a Hi power or Cz75.

TL:DR not stupid but not a practical method for everyday carry outside of places you'll never take of your coat/jacket, or Miami in the 1980s.

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Should be fine. Maybe avoid a leather holster and get a kydex holster instead.

>>34105759
>Shoulder Holster
>>10mm G20SF Gen 3 (15+1rds)
CCing a 10mm, I like it.

>>34112286
God damn, I can shit in a bar ditch with more privacy than that.