/k/, how the hell do you clear a corridor funnel like pic related

Grenades.

>>34096466
Are we assuming that you don't know there's enemies on either side?

Pick one and hope you don't die. In this scenario you do die and hope that he accidently shoots his buddy in the cross fire.

>>34096466
Have allies charge in and use the pile of corpses they become as cover

>>34096466
Shoot ur gun so they panic and shoot each other

Or out-camp them and when one has to piss or gets curious pop em and then boom its 1 v 1

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Shoot the angled walls so it ricochets into the enemies.

>>34096477
Yeah because the average civvie has frags and flashbangs right?

Flashbang one side
Suppress the other side and rush
After first target it down, engage remaining

>>34096486
Not with that attitude.

>>34096466
fire through the wall

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>>34096477
that's how I solved every problem like this in doorkickers after downloading a frag grenade mod.
Worked out pretty well until I blind chucked a RGD-5 into a room full of hostages.
>tfw my agency was modded to be FSB

Canister of VX Gas

>>34096466
Tank

If you know they are there then sprint past the doorways and turn around to shoot them as they come out of the doorway.

If you don't know they are there then grenade.

>>34096480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnEBSwdAXw

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call out did anyone order a UBER?

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>>34096466
Akimbo

>>34096485
I miss that game.

>>34096486
>needing to clear a corridor where multiple assailants are prepared for you
>as a civie
You have severely fucked up in your planning/life.

>>34096486
>Not using the murderkube files to learn how to make your own

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Only one way

>>34096466
this is why you should always have two guns. Just run across the hallway spraying like an absolute madman

They probably won't expect this. You might hit one of them. You'll probably hear "did you just piss yourself?" from one talking to the other

If you're in this situation they're probably tacticool enough you aren't going to be outcamping them or able to just turn around and leave, so you've really got nothing to lose here. You're already dead.

>>34096466
Those walls seem pretty thin. Shoot through them while laying down

>>34096466
Get help from the neutral guy on the right

>>34096466
1. Limited available time scenario:
Leeroy. Run at full speed past cross section. If they shoot (and miss) yep enemies confirmed. Turn around and pie corner they shoot from. If they don't shoot turn around and pie random corner.

2. Unlimited available time scenario:
Dramatic Pause. Go down to next intersection, take cover, shoot intersections and wait 5 minutes if some peeks, shoot him. If nobody peeks go around and clear rooms stealthy from another entrances.

.

Just run through the corridor and let them shoot each others

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>>34096948
>pie corners
pie left corner, expose yourself and the dude on the right shoots you

pie right corner, expose yourself to the dude on the left and shoots you

That was the purpose of the thread, there isn't any foolproof feasible solution to clearing tight T corridors

>>34096466

dont go that way

>>34096969
Yea there is, it's called running full speed with your arms at full length and an uzi in each hand.

>>34096466
You don't. Minimum recommended for clearing is 3 men. If you absolutely had to, you could make 2 work. Never 1.

>>34096969
Run across in a zig zag pattern. Throw some shit or stomp your feet or fire a shot to catch them off guard then run

Forget the zigzag part

>>34096989
This.However, if I had to partake in this hypothetical situation your best bet would be to set up in your corridor and prep an ambush. The best way to take on numerous foes especially well geared one is ambush.

>>34096969
They would not be taking both corridors, they will end shooting each other. And if they were stupid enough to not think about it and they actually shooting each other their confusion will help you to overwhelm them with your attack. No guaranties you win (this scenarios sucks of course and present you low chance) but it will help. If the enemy is smart and dangerous (but below you level anyway) they would be on the one side. This is what run test about.

If you want to put enemy under crossfire think about L-shape geometry of ambush or you end like described idiots shooting each other.

>>34096989
call of duty as fuk

Flamethrower. Those fuckers won't know what hit em'.

>>34096969
Pick one assailant. Move slowly along the wall in the hall farthest away from the chosen assailant. Do not move farther than the doorway. If everything is at the scale in your pic then this should be enough to expose the chosen assailant without exposing you to the other. Shoot any part of the assailant that is exposed. Even if you miss the assailant with either move away from the door or move closer in to your line of fire. Either way, it'll break the stalemate. Once assailant 1 has been taken care of you can move on to assailant 2 at your leisure.

Barring that, throw something heavy. You may know that you don't have a hand grenade but they don't. At the very least it will confuse them for a second.

>>34097022
>call of duty
>teamwork
>not just running around with a handgun and budk knife jabbing everyone

>>34096466
>dive between the doors
>bad guys shoot each other because stupid placement
Done

>>34096985
>>34096948
ISHYGDDT.png

have you ever participated in a simunition fight? or even played an online shooter?

you're heavily underestimating people's average reaction speeds, let me tell you, they're much faster than you think

**best** case scenario if you run at full speed toward's people who are aiming down their sights at the door, would be that only catch 2 or maybe 3 bullets in the waist, arms or ass

t. faggot who fucks with simunitions with friends

>>34097035
Yeah i was teached that at the kill house, but the problem is that if they're dug in deep inside the room you'd have to keep going a little forward to see him, eventually exposing your side or arms/gun to the other guy in the opposite room (even if you don't move farther than the hallway)

>>34096989
>Never 1.
Life may be not fair. Think about active shooter scenario. Both sides. Think from point of view of first single responder or active shooter himself and optimize their strategy (waiting fro reinforcements is automatic fail).

>>34097022
Noob detected.

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LETS MAKE IT A LITTLE SPICIER OP

THIS'LL SEPARATE THE BOYS FROM THE MEN

>>34097038
>>34097063
>from my experience

>>34097055
Go home, John Woo. You're drunk.

>>34097059
If they are dug in that deep then as this anon said >>34097020 they'd end up shooting each other.

>>34097059
>people's average reaction speeds
Average complex reaction time is around 0.7-1.2 sec depending on the uncertainty of the scenario. So yeah average people would have great difficulty to shoot target dashing over intersection.

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>>34097074
Leave, I'd just leave and burn the goddamn house down

>>34097101
300ms actually

>>34097026
I like you. Let's fuck. Not even homo.

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And you're aware of each guy being positioned like that? Shoot through the walls.

>>34097120
>tfw intense gaming brought me down to ~215ms average
>I am the gun that shoots faster than my shadow.

>>34097120
230-260ms average is for simple reaction time (see light press button scenario). Not the likely case.

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>>34097155
Alright everybody
since this is a CQB thread
let's see your fuckin' reaction speeds

https://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

>>34096466
Sprint past, turn 180, when they both exit to fire mow them down. Alternatively shoot through the walls

>>34097236
>>34096494
>>34096706
>>34097153
fucking ameriniggers not everything is made of plywood

>>34097074
breach wall

>>34097247
nobody knows anything about your country

>>34097247
The majority of interior walls EVERYWHERE are wood and drywall.

>>34097275
not in europe
not in africa
not in asia
not in any fucking where except US and maybe canada

>>34097275
its probably from one of those countries where milk is sold in bags and interior walls are made of mud, wheat stalks and empty cans

>>34097281
>not in Africa
Mud hut living niggers shouldn't post here

>>34097247

>plywood
>implying you could fire through plywood and land a killshot unless their head is literally pressed up against the board
>bullet would also be slowed and tumbling

you're thinking of drywall

>>34097281
So unless you're in a castle you can shoot through walls. Gotcha. Most buildings are made of extremely similar materials.
Can you source me on this.

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>>34097275
[European snickering]

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>>34097224

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>>34097281
Kiwifag here, its like that fucking everywhere unless you live in a brick shithouse or mud hut.

>>34097305
Perfect.

>>34097314
Love ya pic, ya Aus Centrelink Welfare tourist sheep rooter.
>Love from across the straight.

>>34097074
Bomb the house

>>34097074
Sean Bean scenario from "Ronin"

It's far from ideal to clear a house alone.
Assuming it's drywall,
>send a mag through the left wall
>reload/ pray it worked
> pie the right side.

>>34096466
>>34097074
quick roll into prone and roll to see them chase you and shoot their legs

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>>34097224
I'm 62, btw

>>34097325
Kill yourself you fucking Aussie subhuman, but before you do get a fucking job and stop rooting your meth sister. CUNT!

>>34097298
Wait... you think that is going to stop bullets?...

>>34097305
>>34097343
>>34097224
This test is retarded. You have to account for what type mouse is being used,and if it mechanical switch how much force is required for actuation,and the distance of the actuation.

>>34097347
it sure as hell isn't stopping refugees

>>34097355
>This test is retarded
Of course it is. But it was fun.

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>>34096466

>>34097281
Saffer here, everything pree 2005 is brick through and through... Hell even most premodern things are brick

>>34097347
It's neither wood, nor drywall. And while it is not going to stop bullets, the sheer observation that holes in the wall from buttmad teenagers are a phenomenon not witnessed over here kind of gives me faith that the materials used for interior walls over here provide a bit higher resilience, resulting in tumbling, deflection and other less than ideal situations.

If you want to talk about penetration, 30.06 punches through outer walls just fine, and so does 7.62x51 - are we gonna get those calibres in interior spaces as realisitic scenarios? More than likely we're looking at 9mill or lower. And that's going to interact differently with a cinder block than with drywall.

One's papermaché. The other isn't.

>>34097370
Having no guns whatsoever helps too I guess

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>>34097224
apparently now i'm tied for #21 on the leaderboard

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>>34096969
Someone mentioned grenades, but because it wasn't the answer you wanted you fobbed them off.

>>34096477
/thread
I see no reason why not to use grenades to clean any room.

fuck you, hostages, no one likes you anyway

Standart drill: 4 people in square formation - grenades then 2 going right and 2 left. Another 4 standing 5m behind as reserve.

Eastern europe - 80% urban buildings are made from 30cm steel reinforced concrete blocks.

If you are alone in fantasy shtf situation then avoid building by 400m radius camping/sniping or aproach building at night with nvg.

>>34097383
you're talking as if your local pawn shop is selling grenades and flashbangs

>>34097370
Are you stupid?...

>>34097343
Age hasn't slowed you down too much boss

>>34096466
Lie down at the end of the hall with your gun.
Make kitten noises until one of them is curious enough to look.
Shoot him in the head.

>>34096613
pretty much the only answer, if the rules say theres no way to draw them away from their posts

otherwise you just drop a playboy at the crossroads and knock on a wall, then run past them

alternatively toss one of your $20-50 magazines into the far tunnel. rocks or common objects simply wont do

>>34097430
>his aren't
Sad!

>>34096466
Shoot through the wall

>>34096969
>sprint through
>hostiles can't shoot without hitting each other
>signal to the guy behind you which hallway you'll take
>clear and laugh

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>>34097728
Because the average civvie needs to clear a situation like this right? What now, faggot?

>>34097874
you weren't taught this in school? we got this right after penis inspection day what the fuck were you doing?

>>34096466
Grenades

>>34096477
came here to say this, desu.

>>34096466
Throw explosives

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>>34097224
I'm happy my reaction times are less than a quarter second. Not the best but it's still more than enough to shoot someone running past a door when i'm expecting it

>>34097285
A fucking .22LR can punch through 3/4" plywood and could still be lethal. You need at least 5-6" of wood to stop even a 9mm. Literally every centerfire caliber could go through 2 sheets of plywood and kill someone.

>>34096486
The average civilian will never get in a situation like this, hell the average civilian will never get in a situation where he even needs to draw his CC/use his home defense gun

>>34097357
kek

>>34097275
Mine are all solid brick. I know because my family has had this house since 1881 when it was built

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>>34097074
Easy

>>34096589
Underrated

>>34096466
You dive into the opening and fall to the ground. They will shoot each other as they try and track you.
>2 birds
>no stone

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>>34096466
ships drill

>>34098164
stop watching james bond movies

>>34098268
Topkek

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>>34097224
I'm alright I guess.

>>34097370
It doesn't matter because no one in Europe has guns besides the police and Ahmed so I guess he'll just waltz out the room and blow your head off

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Explosives, a team, avoiding a shit scenario you can clearly see coming. Your choice.

>>34098498
>>34097375
what the fucking fuck do you do for a living?

>>34098268
nothin personnel

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>>34097224

>>34098507
Test A-A missiles.

>>34096466
Run like hell out of the building.

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>>34097224
Get on my level scrubs, John wick here.

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>>34097224

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>>34097417

>clearing a building by yourself

What kind of fuck fuck fantasy is this shit?

We had two sets of Sf dudes that came through my deployment. Best method taught to my unit was the box method, you go down the hall 2x2, guy on the left scans right wall and door ways, guy on right side scans left side (ie, cross fire). Was very efficient. In this scenario it would kill both bad guys simultaneously.

>>34096466
throw your glock between them on the floor they will jump out of the window by reflex.

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>>34097074
DIE DIE DIE

>>34098181
What about a civilian law enforcement situation where you actually have to keep casualties to a monimum?

Combat roll through the corridor to the other side engaging the enemies and causing them to shoot eachother

>>34098864
>not having the skillset to clear a building by yourself
No wonder you lesser dudes get wasted by poor farmers all the time
I get that not everyone can be trained as much as I have been, but this is an easy fucking skill

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>>34098742
amateur

>>34098921
to be quite fucking honest everyone sees this as a joke post but it ain't

the key to not dying is practice, practice practice and practice

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>>34098933
>implying I didn't just get stupid lucky with a preemptive click


btw AMD relive is bae

>>34097247
Your country doesn't allow citizens to carry guns. HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH what a loser.

>>34097247
>europoors don't have guns that can penetrate brick and concrete

How can you be this cucked?

>>34096969
I doubt that they would be holding the same angles, it would cause them to more likely hit themselves rather than their intended target. The best bet is to have someone with you. If there's two people out to get you, you'd better hope your friend or colleague is there to back you up in clearing rooms.

>>34099160
>>34099159
I live in yemen you retards

>>34096466
Go through the walls, apply grenades judiciously.

>>34099276
Shouldn't you be out keeping the Houthis from turning your country into another Lebanon?

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>dual wielding MP5Ks
>slide past the open doors on your knees while spraying into each room

aim a flashbang at the doorframe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ckRo9lD_4

>>34096712
Underrated

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>>34096466
Siege them, they'll have to get out at some point to take a piss, eat, drink, etc. Shoot them the moment they peek out.

Camping is a legitimate strategy.

>>34098408

Leave the hill out of this!

>>34099276
No one cares about your shitty little country

>>34096486
The average civvie will never be in position to do such thing in a first place.

>>34100000
quints confirmed, camperfags are legit strategists

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send your child sex-slave army to clear the rooms

>>34096466
If I'm clearing houses by myself I'm bringing smoke grenades, a gas mask, and ideally a pair of thermal imaging goggles.

>>34097247

OP didn't specify on what the walls were made of, so we go with the most common built wall, which is just shit and can easily be shot through.

>>34100753
but dude, how are you going to effectively use the goggles and gas mask at the same time?

>>34101007
I don't have thermal imaging goggles to use for one, but if I did I'd probably opt for a half face respirator instead of a full gas mask.

Though I'm sure there's already combination gas mask and thermal imaging goggles on the market that I could buy if we're just going to go full LARP with our equipment.

>>34096644
hope restored

>>34097074
the answer is still grenades.

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>>34097074

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>>34096485
Gee I wonder who is behind this post

>>34096466
>>34097074
hit the detonator on my bomb vest and let Allah take over

>>34099276
That's even more of a reason to have a gun that can penetrate brick walls.

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>>34097224
I figured I'd be in the thousands given how much I've smoked tonight lol

You fall back and call in an airstrike/artillery on the building.

>>34096466
leave, come back with armored vehicle + rammer, make a hole in the corner of the building, start from there.

>fire a round to try and draw them out
>if they don't come, draw peestol and hold in left hand
>point in both directions
>shoot both at the same time

>>34096486
Black powder + Ball bearings in a Hugs bottle

>>34096486
Pretty simple to make, you can do them with household supplies

>>34097343
My average was 285 and I'm 40 years younger so I'd be satisfied if I were you

>>34096486
Y-you don't?

>>34096524
Damnit Boris, quit shitposting and go back to removing chechen

>>34097224
>331ms
I'm getting too old for this shit.

>>34096466
pop out the hall way for a second to agro the enemies, run back in and shoot them one at a time as they chase you.

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>>34097224
I'm alright with this.

>shoot straight down corridor
>shoot the bullet so it ricochets off and hits the bad guy
>do twice

>>34097074
We Waco now

>>34097074

I'll try spinning. That's a good trick.

>>34096466
Frag to the left, frag to the right, then clean up. If too paranoid - another pair of frags before clean up.

>>34097074
This one is easier than OPs. Hug the right wall, put shots into left doorway to maybe make the left top guy flinch, then continue along the wall quickly and shoot him. Assuming these guys are actual retards, standing in the same spot, not behind cover or trying to use their numbers to overwhelm me, repeat for right doorway enemy. You can now enter either room, maybe spray around the corner at the guys in the back.

>>34098767
Are you on mobile? You cant actually judge very well from that, since touchscreens react slower

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>>34096466

The bottom line for clearing a T intersection or hallway where the enemy has possible interlocking sectors of fire is that there is no method of probable success to do it for a singular person, as you cannot simultaneously control all sectors. The recommended course of action here would be to control the hallway until you could get more guns into the fight, or egress on your own.

Provided you have no equipment other than firearms, and were to still attempt to clear both sides, the best thing you could do would be to pie a corner and attempt to engage the target with minimal exposure to yourself. Pieing the corner does not mean making a sharp 90 degree turn into the room, rather working your way up to the point where you have visibility around the corner but no exposure of yourself beyond what you can see and engage. If you were to successfully neutralize one, it would force the other into an ultimatum of either holding in place or entering the hallway into your sector of fire.

>>34096466
>not having a full scuba system with its own air supply
>not constantly wearing a full firesuit at all times
>not always having a flamethrower
it's like you want to die. just burn the fuckers out.

>>34097026
You know...flame throwers are actually easier to get than grenades and ae actually even legal...yes, even in CA.

Flame throwers are considered an appliance/tool and actually useful for melting snow.

>>34096985
honestly can't argue against that tactic

>>34096466

Bang / grenade one side, and clear the other while a dude behind you goes the other way.

Sometimes you're just going to be out there flapping, so you do what you can do, and hope for the best.

>>34097366
brick doesn't stop modern rounds, fire free

>>34096985
no, dive and roll, reorient rearward and kip up while aiming for their hunter reflexes to bring them chasing after you

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>>34097074

>>34096486
TRMR E Series
Royal Arms FBG

both about 100USD per unit

You can make your own custom charges by cutting shotshells down to the necessary length and packing them with powder, iirc 4 measures of standard 12ga bird loaded powder is more than enough, 2 or 3 measures should be adequate

>>34106528
I take that back, the FBG is about 250, TRMR is 84lbs

>>34096466
>Call time out
>Reach over and close door 2
>Times in
>Proceed to pie room 1

Yeah no there's a reason building clearing isn't a one man operation.

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>>34096486
Are you sure your on the right board anon.
You're displaying a serious lack of /k/ingenuity.

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>>34097224
>tfw slowpoke

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channel my inner Chinese gangster.

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>>34096489

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>>34097895
your mum

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>>34101120

>>34097026

A magical place.

>>34096466
Flamethrower.

>>34096466
salty milk and coins

>>34096466
Smoke off one, peek the other.
Or push through smoke.
Or pop flash both of them.

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>>34097074
gg bois

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>>34106774

>>34096985
Yeah, but then you get fucking brained by some dude with a crowbar

https://youtu.be/e7ETCh0tFRc

>>34102365
>Bend over red rover let allah take over.

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>>34106872

>>34097059
How do i into personal simunition shit? Ive done a few classes and its great training plus a lot of fun, but when i go to their website theres no way to buy.

>>34100000
Check'd

>>34096466
you never heard of these things we call "flash bangs"?

>>34102423
DUDE

>>34096466
Fragmentation Grenade

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>>34096466

>>34097224
My mom got a ridiculously fast time once. I shit you not. It was something like .008. She must have reacted before and got lucky, no other explanation. I'm slowish so I'm not gonna bother embarrassing myself.

>>34099508
>just walk away

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>>34096466
Have two stacks enter at the same time or go outside find window shoot the bitch through window

>>34098527
>avg 191
fucking normalfag

By the end of Stalingrad, soldiers were carrying rucksacks of grenades, and carrying pistols only.

By the time they got into Berlin, they weren't bothering to clear bunkers anymore, they would pour gasoline down, and just burn everything. There might have been survivors that would attack from the rear, but by then, it wouldn't have changed anything.

retreat and cover the hallway around a corner or behind cover.
Wait for back up or cut your losses and leave

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>>34102606
Sonny puzikas dead lotus bloom circle of death

Plebs

>>34096466
Hug one wall and sneak up to where you can blindfire spray around the corner without exposure. Spray the opposite corner than the wall you hug

>>34096486
>he doesn't own frag grenades
Get a load of this faggot!

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>>34097074
This scenario is actually easier than OPs. You can get a line of sight to just one at a time using this sequence.

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>>34097074
>>34110328

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>>34110328
>>34097074
>>34110349

Stop letting negros cum inside your wife OP, problem solved

>>34110382
Not a lot of clearance in a uterus

>>34110328
Well you see the thing is
if you get in position 1, you'd expose your arms and side to Enemy 2 and he'd mag dump you

if you get in position 2 you'd expose your arms and side to Enemy 1 and he'd shoot you

>>34110565
>if you get in position 1, you'd expose your arms and side to Enemy 2
No, you just need to hug the wall better.

Ideally this would be done with two men, each moving into position 1 and 2 simultaneously.

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>>34110584
Believe me, it doesn't work if you're clearing a tight corridor, no matter how hard you stick to the wall you'd still expose yourself

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>>34108224
Best level in the game desu

is this supposed to be hard? just blindfire into reach room from the other side so they can't ever hit you

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BASED ON MY EXTENSIVE law enforcmunt experience

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>>34110633
why not duck?

>>34096466
Smoke bomb? Smoke bomb. Then drop a stone in the doorway when they ate blinded. Hopefully, they shoot each other.

>>34096466
Aerial cartwheel flip and the two fuckers shoot themselves. Of course I would throw two daggers at each for good measure. Easy peasy

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>>34096466

Start REEEEEEEEE'ing as loud as you can from a few yards back. Eventually they'll just think you're retarded/wounded and come out to you

>>34096466
I learned from the movie Ronin, starring Robert DeNiro, that professionals do not use this ridiculous tactic because they would shoot each other.

>>34097298
Do they not apply concrete to the blocks when building up the walls?

>>34110253
Didn't this fucking idiot shoot someone?

>>34096466
Bring friends that have balls the size of Saturn, and have a pair to match for yourself. That's all any room clearing is anyway, the more complex you make it the harder it gets to do under pressure

>>34096466
Jew magic, aka the corner shot.

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>>34111151

Pic related the Germans did it first

>>34097074
shoot up, if they have honor they will come to their senses

>>34097074
naruto run past, they will take a dirt nap because they saw a weeb

>>34111053
Yeah lol, but he totally looked like a spetznas while doing it lmao

>>34096496
>Vanilla doorkickers
>Hostage injured! Mission failure!

>FSB doorkickers
>7 of 4 hostages killed, 3 stars for you comrade!

Can't wait until doorkickers 2

>>34096466
put hat on end of knife, stick out in to hall, wait while they shoot each other

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>>34096466
Shoot through the walls. We are talking dry wall and maybe some 2x4s if your unlucky. that's why you got 30rds

>>34096466
Lots and lots of dry ice, it's what they use to kill all the rats nest in NYC.

>>34096486
All it takes to make a frag grenade is a pipe, powder and ball bearings.

>inb4 inferior to real frags
Throw more.

>inb4 fails to detonate
Throw more.

>>34097370
ar-10 14 inch barrel ap rounds cya l8er fagit

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>>34096539

Ivan:
>vladimir hurry, the chechens have commenced the attack
>we must also rescue all the hostages
>the school is right around the corner!

Vlady:
>da comrade, but what hostages

Ivan:
>wha - what? in the sch-

Vlady:
>what school

boom