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>There are actually "people" RIGHT NOW on /k/ that

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>There are actually "people" RIGHT NOW on /k/ that support tasteless OC into public areas with long guns and legitimately do not understand others aversion to it.

As someone who regularly OCs during relevant activities, I just don't understand why /k/ defends these people.

Anyone care to rationally explain why this blatantly attention whoring shit is okay?
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>>34089853
SHALL
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>>34089862
NOT
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>>34089862
Nope stop this meme.

How is someone supposed to reasonably discern that someone OCing a long gun in public, often unslung and literally at the ready isn't about to go postal?
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Because its legal, as it should be. I agree its obnoxious and these spergs do more damage to the public perception of gun owners than a thousand Lanzas ever could, but declaring it "Not okay" is the first step to prohibition.
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>>34089883
if they decide to try to kill people for no reason, they'll just get killed by the other gun owning patriots.
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>>34089877
>>34089883
BE
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>>34089890
CARRIED
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>>34089885
I have zero problem whatsoever with banning the carry of long-guns in cities
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>>34089862
>NOT
It's their right as covered by the second amendment. That said, it IS still a fairly distasteful way of exercising their 2A rights and it makes them look kind of douchey/try-hard/insecure. But they have the right to OC. That's part of how freedom works- people are free to do stupid shit, as long as they're not actively endangering or intimidating others.
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>>34089896
Fucking commie scum!! Let the retards pay for their action in bullet not jail.
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>>34089885
It's not legal in my state.

Only OC while Hunting, Camping(and hiking by extension), and fishing is legal.

Oh and going too and from a gun range.

These are all perfectly reasonable uses and I regularly OC while doing them, it's easy on LEOs too because they understand why people are armed out in the woods.
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>>34089853
>regularly OCs during relevant activities

what is a relevant activity for OC ? shooting at the range ?

OC = police & military
CC = civilian
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>>34089912
What I just listed, it's nice to OC a handgun for self defense while innawoods or even a rifle.
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It's their right but they should know being obese and carrying rifles around sperging out makes the gun community look bad. They are who the liberals talk about when trying to get anti-gun legislature.
>do you really feel safe taking your kids to the grocery store around people carrying assault rifles around?
A better way to integrate positive gun views is to open carry a pistol and not dress like an autist and try to make drama everywhere you go.
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>>34089896
You don't belong here.
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>>34089923
Meant to reply to>>34089915
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>>34089853
There is literally no reason to fear long guns any more than pistols when it comes to urban places.

In fact if anything should be banned is guns that can be conceal carried
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>>34089938
shitty bait friendo. filtered
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>>34089925
I believe in tasteful OC, if someone wants to carry a holstered pistol into
a public space I have no problem with it.

This shit should understandably be illegal and regarded as brandishing
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>>34089904
>>34089926

what sort of threats do you face in an urban environment necessitating the employment of fucking center-fire rifles?
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>>34089945
you can't filter a specfic anon you retarded fucking newfag
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>>34089890
INFRINGED
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>>34089956
Niggers.
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>>34089968
Just OC a handgun, or better yet, don't go to where niggers congregate
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>>34089951
I don't think people should be OCing in public with single point slings. That's pretty much the equivalent of walking around with your handgun drawn and in your hand.

Nothing wrong with a two point sing and it being slung across your back though
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>>34089956
What sort of relevance do you hold necessitating that I justify my actions to you?
Stop worrying about what other people do. It's just a gun.
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>>34089975
Why not open carry both? Im feelin in the mood for some homeless guy to "attack" me.
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>>34089978
I'd argue that while a rifle is slung over your back in a position that is secure and well retained, I.E., not loosely over your shoulder, it's if dubious use and doesn't really belong out in Public anyways.

It would be faster to draw a handgun in that case.
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>>34089956
Peaceful melanin-enriched gentlemen who are just trying to get by and make ends meet.
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>>34089896
Fuck off red
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>>34090003
All those good boys on their way to church :^)
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>>34089957
filtered
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>>34089915
>relevant activities
Hunting. Camping. Hiking. At the range. Outdoor range. In my own home.
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>>34089883
This is my issue. There's a few OC long gun fucks that I see in town sometimes, and it's not just hunting rifles or shotguns. It's AR's w/ ACOG and foregrips and the usual shit we see on /k/ - When I see these fucks out and around I always, always leave a hand on my CC.
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>>34090113
This. Doesn't help that they all look autistic as fuck and about to go on a rampage.
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You're making the constitution cry you guys,
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>>34089853
SHALL
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>>34090128
Lmao
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>>34090128

no one here is talking about banning or making anything illegal. people here are saying that OCing an offensive weapon in public is stupid, and usually done by people who simply want to start shit or want to show off their toy. this whole concept of 'if we make OCing guns normal everything will be great' is just just childish.
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>>34090151
I think more people should open carry, it means nobody fucks with anyone because they're all too scared to try anything, only retarded fucks would carry around a long gun when it would take longer to draw.
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>>34090171
>it means nobody fucks with anyone because they're all too scared to try anything

that is such a facebook relative tier opinion. people who go on mass shootings expect to die, why would they give a fuck if everyone else was carrying guns? also with that same logic you could say concealed carry would scare people away from crime because anyone could be packing
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>>34090187
Hypothetically this is true and prevents some crime I believe, but truly insane people are irrational and don't stop to consider things like the person they're about to kill might be CCing
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I ain't going to give any of you sissy faggots any (You)'s, there was a time people could walk to and from School with rifles, could walk to and from town with rifles, and kids could walk with rifles. But due to fucks like you our society is rotting from the inside out, where being a disgusting tranny is lauded as "brave" and forcing kids to do it as well. You can't understand what SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means due to the slippery slope mentality you sickos operate under, and the meme SHALL comes from /pol/, and all the newfag shilling won't change that fact.
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>>34090187
> people who go on mass shootings expect to die
Your average mugger or stick-up guy doesn't
>also with that same logic you could say concealed carry would scare people away from crime because anyone could be packing
Kek, yes. Exactly. If any joe could be packing a shitty glock in his waistband crime becomes a lot riskier
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>>34090092
on your own property is not OC
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>>34090207
Just means the murderer is outmatched 50 to 1, at best he's taking down 5-10 people. I also think we should skin the murderer and hang them on the town flag pole.
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>>34090225
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>>34089883

>le meme
>kys faggot
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>>34090211
That's not what I'm talking about.

If OC is tasteful and normal in your area, like having guns up in a truck bed or something like that, or hunters with slung rifles/shotguns coming back from a hunt, there's nothing wrong with that. It's Suburban and urban retards walking around in areas with literally no reason to ever have what they have out.
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>>34090113
>>34090127

If you dont use it you lose it.

OC is making OC normal. You cant make OC normal by not doing it,
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>>34089883
Get fucked, commie.
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>>34090253
Not him. I think it's retarded too, the people who open carry long guns are usually narcissistic egomanic pricks that flaunt them around like a toy. Except that doesn't excuse making open carry illegal, not to mention all the other retarded shit you said afterwards the main point
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>>34090253
>Reason
Go fuck your self, it's their right to do so. It'll be their own fault if they acidentally get shot, just let capitalism and natural selection run its cause you sticky fingered fuck.
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>>34090284
Do you understand how time consuming it is for some communities to dispatch police to watch these fucks?

It's downright a waste of your taxpayer money, mr Capitalism has no flaws
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>>34090295
>shekelstein is shifting the goalposts yet again
Fuck off, this has to be bait at this point
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>>34090295
Fuck government cops, it should be up to the public and the people they pay to watch them to protect themselves. And yes without government meddling capitalism has no flaws.
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>>34090113
>>34090127
>Putting your hand on your CC
>Somehow the guy with a sling rifle is the issue
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>>34089853
>the government should be able to regulate taste
commie faggot
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>>34090002
>It would be faster to draw a handgun
You're making the mistake of thinking they're carrying for self defense. It's a protest to normalize OC and "assault" weapons. Or are you so autistic that you think idiots strapping rubber dicks to their back packs are doing it so they have something to rub one out with after lunch?
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>There are actually "people" RIGHT NOW on /k/ that support tasteless blacks walking freely about in public areas and legitimately do not understand others aversion to it.

As someone who regularly supports ending apartheid, I just don't understand why /k/ defends these people.

Anyone care to rationally explain why this blatantly attention whoring and not thinking about the women and children is okay?
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>>34090402
It's funny because even unarmed blacks are statistically more dangerous than your average aspie OCing an SKS.
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>>34089853
/k/ tends to berate autist OC people like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-CympWx8g


If you want to ridicule people like in your picture then that's fine with me (i'd more than likely join in) but it's not the government's place to fuck with it.
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>>34090450
Jesus fucking Christ.
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There's regular people who OC in public, then there's autistic spergs with something to prove walking around flailing the most tactical thing they can find. If guns are illegal, they would be walking around with wallhanger fantasy swords.

/k/ usually cannot spot the difference and often resort to screeching SHALL. Maybe some people are just parroting le magical place meme replies, maybe it hit too close to home for others, you never know.
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>>34089853
People are only afraid of OC because of propaganda

practicing OC normalizes it and removes the fear and stigma
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>>34089956

Any problem that can be solved with a centerfire pistol can be solved more effectively with a centerfire rifle.
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While the OP addresses what may seem like an issue that reflects poorly on the firearm community, he is also plain dead WRONG. If people do not exercise their rights, they will be taken from them. If people bow down to the screeching demands from the uninformed hordes and abstain from exercising their rights, they will be taken from them. As long as you're not doing anything illegal, you're not giving the anti-gun lobbyists any more fuel than they had before - au contraire, you're showing them what a top fuckin law-abiding cunt you are. Be excellent to other people and open carry your MG34 wherever you can, so even the most blithering idiot can understand that guns do not make you insane in the membrane when they see you helping an old woman cross the road while taking your raifu for a walk.
If you want to see what happens when the ignorant are left to regulate gun ownership, look at the fuckin tragic definitions used in Norwegian law and the lists of approved semi auto rifles there are. Look at the US with their ridiculous AR pistols and everything California legal. Look at Sweden with their mandatory registration of suppressors.
I will cede but one point to the OP, and that is that if you know you do not present the firearm owner community in a good light, you might want to leave your gun at home together with your Cuck Hunt shirt or white boot laces or Che shirt or Taliban scarf.
In a
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OP is a faggot but he's right.

These motherfuckers who walk around Walmart with ARs at low ready are the BLM of the gun rights movement.
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>>34090511
No it doesn't. There aren't enough people doing it to normalize it.
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>>34090609
This. Eloquently worded and well said anon.
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>>34089853
You realize it's possible for me to support their right to do it while also thinking they're fucking retards?
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>>34090624
nope not at all you idiot
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>>34090676
I don't support their right to do that though.
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>>34090701
Then you're a gigantic faggot.
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>>34090701
Then I guess your a gun grabbing commie in need of some removal.
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>>34090706
>>34090709
/k/ is the easiest board to troll, but no, I unironcally do not support someone's right to do what's in the OP
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>>34089853
>Anyone care to rationally explain why this blatantly attention whoring shit is okay?

because if guns bother you in a public setting you're a pussy

what you SHOULD be mad about is how most of the people doing the OC are overweight pale neckbeards
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>>34090725
You have to go back!
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>>34090725
Do you support the right to own black guns even though some autists use them to shoot up schools and shit?
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>>34090786
I own and regularly OC an AR15
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>>34090319
> without government meddling capitalism has no flaws

Ahahahahaha 10 years gulag for you
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>>34090794
k
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>>34090800
Here have a complimentary image on behalf of the state, in order to save words that could be used to help the motherland.
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>>34090809
For real tho, did you even read the thread?

I don't agree with tasteless, autistic OC. There are plenty of situations OCing a long gun is normal, going to the restaurant to eat is not one of them.
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>>34089853
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

/thread
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>>34089853
OPEN CARRY:
The concept is derived from the fact that the public has an irrational fear of firearms due to lack of exposure to them. The only time Jack & Diane Everyman ever see guns it is in movies where the badguys are using them (even good guys don't pick up bad guy's guns). The idea is that by having normal, responsible people visibly in possession of a firearm it will remove the visual stigma the media has created and "normalize" firearm ownership again.

This is actually a very effective strategy, and has been proven time and time again with different elements of subculture.

The problem comes from the few angsty edgelords who don't just casually eat their lunch or go shopping with a sidearm on, but go out of their way to try to make others feel uncomfortable so they can laugh about "soccer moms" or "Noguns".

The idea is normalization, and portraying gun owners as regular folk. Not making yourself feel superior to "Liberal Crybabies" or whatever else these people tell themselves they are surrounded by.

A good example is the homosexual community. Constant exposure has normalized it in our culture, and the average person no longer cares. But foam parties in the streets or other attempts to make people feel uncomfortable and be edgy about it still makes people upset.
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>>34089886
>>34089890
>>34090251
>>34090276
Actual autism, found the boys who do what the OP was complaining about. Congratulations, you stupid fucking spergs, you are the number 1 reason liberals want to ban guns. Congrats, you are so self-absorbed you honestly think carrying an AR around in public is a good idea and can't even fathom how this could make people question whether or not the person in question is mentally sane. Protip, back in the 1800s you didn't have clowns walking downtown with their fucking hunting rifles slung across their chest like tools, they used a concealable weapon like every other person with a brain. Continue screaming "MUH 2ND AMMENDMENT" though like actual children, ignoring the fact that you yourselves are the number one cause for why your rights are being stripped away by uneducated dems. I'm actually embarrassed you guys are this stupid and just shout at things you can't understand.
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>>34089853
Hey guys, if i wear my duty belt and everything on it, will i look retarded in civvies?

I'm local PD.
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on one hand, open carry does look somewhat autistic... on the other hand, if you against it, you're a fudd
>gun rights are okay up to a point
the only reasonable idea I can think of is that an attack might see that you are armed and take you out. but if you watch any robbery video, they usually charge in with their glawk raised in the air and rush to the counter and immediately get dropped before the register can even be opened. they're not observant.
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>>34090921
it would probably be very obvious that you're a cop, so no.
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>>34090919
1. Calm the shit down.
2. I actually agree with you to a point, but you are being such an asshole about it I don't want to admit it.
3. Carrying an AR slung in public is fine. "Brandishing it" in your hands in ready position like in some of the pics above is not. There is a difference.
4. Using a pic of Trump to call people names for liking guns.. Don't act surprised when people assume your a lib.
5. reread your post and tell me again who is acting like a child.
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>>34090935
>>open is perfectly legal in most jurisdictions and states
>>but you shouldn't do it
literally this
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>>34090919
>If you appease the progresive leftists , They wil like you and respect your rights!

You piece of shit, please die
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>>34090992
You write like somebody from LeDeddit, how comedic. The rest of your post is also fucking stupid, so it fits. Here, this is how you properly format a post you dipshit: "Chill the fuck out you sperg and stop shitposting." Instead, you come off as a pampered babby who is mad he got his feelings hurt on 4chan for the first time. lmao fucking moron, having an AR on you in public is just as autistic as having it in a hands ready position, what do you think everyone around you is thinking? I'll tell you just so you know, "what a fucking idiot." 100% of them too. Not a single person sees you with your plastic shittoy gun and thinks "woah what a badass." Sorry to break it to you, the most you are doing that's "badass" is scaring a couple of soccer moms you walk by. You're also not protecting yourself in any way, either. You made yourself the center of attention in absolutely any area you go to, so if theres a gunman or anyone who may pose a risk, you are their number one target. Good job, now you are the first victim, and you get to enjoy bleeding out on the ground like a pig as you watch everyone else get mowed down after you.

>>34091042
>hurrr durrr i cant into logic
lmao nice argument you made sperg
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>>34089956
there is no such thing as radical islam. this term is offensive. there is only islam.
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>>34091050
>swears every third word
>no punctuation, long clusters of word vomit
>insults, insults, insults,
>assumptions about people's motives treated as fact
>criticizes someone's argument by calling them names.
Are you literally 12 years old?
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>>34089853
I OC with a holster on my side and I still support any form of OC. Get fucked
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>>34090151
but the very act of open carrying means by proxy you are safer so you should thank the fat neckbeard.

if you are uncomfortable its only becuase you dont trust yourself under identical circumstances.

found the flaming liberal.
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>>34091050
>You write like somebody from LeDeddit, how comedic. The rest of your post is also fucking stupid, so it fits. Here, this is how you properly format a post you dipshit: "Chill the fuck out you sperg and stop shitposting.
>Instead, you come off as a pampered babby who is mad he got his feelings hurt on 4chan for the first time. lmao fucking moron
Do you not see the irony here friendo
>having an AR on you in public is just as autistic as having it in a hands ready position
kek
>You're also not protecting yourself in any way, either
kek
>You made yourself the center of attention in absolutely any area you go to
kek
>so if theres a gunman or anyone who may pose a risk, you are their number one target. Good job, now you are the first victim, and you get to enjoy bleeding out on the ground like a pig as you watch everyone else get mowed down after you.
Try reading the thread next time when you want to bring up retarded """arguments""" like this. Your post is the perfect definition of a strawman; lots of insults positioned to sound like an argument when in fact it's just a t-deficient redditor getting assblasted. I can guarantee you've never touched a firearm in your life let alone cc'd you literal underage faggot.
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>>34091050
A couple days ago I said 'this has to be the worst post I've ever read on /k/' in response to some ARfag talking out his ass about gas pistons. That has absolutely nothing on this.
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In Arizona, lots of people open carry and no one gives a fuck
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>>34089951
I'd count the guy on the left as brandishing but the guy on the right as normal oc.
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>/k/ defending some autistic basement-dwellers carrying long arms in public and ruining it for everyone

I supposed I didn't really expect anything different.
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>>34091372
I think he just pulled that rifle around for the picture, looks like it was originally slung back further than the other guy's.
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>>34091398
>/k/ defending the right of people, spergs or not, to do something considered perfectly legal in most places

Yeah, what a surprise.
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>>34091398
>t. Fudd

Just because you personally don't like it or see the need for it doesn't mean we shouldn't defend it. It's the same reason why Fudds are just as bad as plain old antigunners

>Fudd: why do you need that AR-15? My durr rifle is all I need!
>Media: See! Even gun owners don't think people should have AR-15s!
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>>34091050
>plastic shittoy gun
At least he can lift up a rifle with wood furniture if he wants to.
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>>34090919
SHALL
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>>34089853
>be lgbt
>walk around in public with twenty dildo taped on body
>get funny looks
>REEEEE I HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS SELF STOP OPPRESSING ME FUCK YOU HOMOPHOBIC TRUMP SUPPORTER

Just because you are allowed to do certain things doesn't mean you should and people will call you a faggot retard. How come fucking 4chan of all places don't understand this. Besides a few samefags in this thread, nobody
advocates banning OC.
/k/ really is the easiest board to troll.
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Some of you nonothing cunts are unbelievable.
You have rights and agree with them as long as the right fits your desires. But that dumb bastard that doesnt think the same as you do shouldn't have the same rights? Unbelievable.
If someone wants to legally oc or cc you and the antigun crazies can fuck yourselves. Its a gun. In the open. Get over it. If they start anything at least you and the cops know who to shoot first.
Leave people alone. Shall not be infringed.
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>>34089903
>it makes them look kind of douchey/try-hard/insecure

Actually the guys in OP's pic would look that way if they weren't carrying.
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>>34089853
Controversial opinion, but OCing rifles shouldn't be legal. Atleast not in front of the body. Dangling from your back, alright.
Actually having it in your hands, no fucking way.

Just stick to a fucking pistol, autist.
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>>34089853
You have to understand the context. In Texas at that time, it was illegal to open carry a handgun. They wanted to raise awareness about the hypocrisy of allowing open carry for rifles but not handguns, and they succeeded. Texas legalized open carry, and all the people who said that open carry protests would lead to a backlash were proved wrong.
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>>34090879
This.
Very well put.
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>>34091731
Seconded
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>>34091731

i think it should just be considered brandishing.
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>>34089959
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>>34091731
>>34092156
>>34092167

>I want Laws and regulation on things I dont like.

You do not grasp the meaning of human rights and inherent government encroachment. If you choose to continue to be ignorant of such things you will continue to be what destroys liberty.
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>>34092217
This.
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>>34091731
If you're OCing like the autistic fucks in the OP then it should count as brandishing IMO. Having a rifle slung on your shoulder or back is perfectly fine, cradling it is not.

I CC and see these fucks sometimes. The way they act always makes me think they're about to have a ND or just go full Postal, so I always keep an eye on them.
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>>34092217
This.
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>>34092217
This.
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>>34090450
Dearborn, MI. The normies freaked out around here for 2 weeks after that happened.
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Opinions on the open carry of pistols and iwb holsters?
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I have no issue with people carrying a slung weapon. It must be fully slung. Its their right to do so.
However if you are coming into a place with your rifle low ready or medium ready...
Your getting shot. I'm not giving you time to explain that you are just open carrying and bullshit - i'm going to react and your going to die.

Plain and simple.
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These protests could be something great. Our problem is a lack of cohesion, Maybe arrange with a manager to allow us to give a short speech on how none of these guns we hold are going to hurt anybody there and how one might just save one of them someday
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>>34092324
If open carry is legal, then it is their right to do so.
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I feel like a dweeb when i OC my pistol, but i cant afford a good concealed carry holster/gun right now, am i a faggot?
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>>34090113
This would be me as well, if any of the beaners near me owned guns.

>>34089853
If you're going to OC, do it with some taste and consideration for others. If you absolutely want to carry a long arm in public (which is legal in Texas), use a sheath just like you would with a pistol. Fuck your reaction time and your SHALL. 2A is a right AND a responsibility, you ultimate faggots.
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I personal wouldn't, but it is their right.

Of course I take my hat off when I sit down to eat and that's not a thing anymore so what do I know.
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Mfw always feel like im walking around with my dick out whenever I have to OC in my home state
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>>34089883
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>>34090919
>tasty new pasta.
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>>34089896
>go to gun show
>purchase rifle legally
>take rifle to car
>arrested in gun show parking lot for unlawful open carry

It quickly becomes difficult to decide what "open carry" means, and usually leftists just don't want guns to be visible in public. If there are no guns or gun owners visible to soicety, it's easier to label them both as unusual and unnecessary.
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>>34090450
>what the hell is the matter with you?
Fucking lol'd
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>>34090725
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>>34089938
That's literally why CC was banned in the first place in the US. As handguns became more common post civil war, more were used by criminals and cheats. People were fine with handguns and rifles being carried in the open, but a person with a concealed handgun was seen as someone with malicious intent.
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>>34092341
Sure you would.
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>>34089853
Its like defending peoples right to voice their opinion in public. It might be a shit opinion but they have the right to say it.


If they want to OC their opinion in public, i don't care. I will still defend their right to be wrong.
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>>34092341
>Your getting shot
You should practice CCing a grammar book.
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>>34092553
burned
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>>34092521
Boy, how times change.
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>>34092372
I asked for opinions, not >SHALL
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>>34089853
While I with the OCers that it should be legal, I don't think that they should do it. These people are not self aware at all and don't realize that the people they piss off are the same ones who see men who look mentally ill carrying "assault rifles" around the grocery store are the same people who vote for anti gun politicians because they see things like this. Antagonizing people helps your cause in no way, these OCers hurt the gun community more than they help it. Someone on the fence about guns sees a 400 pound man in a boonie hat with a rifle yelling "shall not be infringed" at strangers isn't going to be on the fence for very long.
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>>34090919
>post a picture of donald tr*mp
>calls other people autistic
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>>34092217
I agree with >>34091731
having it at the ready seems a bit like brandishing and unnecessary and guaranteed to scare the shit outta people. Anything that frightens the general public are infringing on others right to feel safe in a public environment. You make a good argument but really c'mon.. long guns in public are just ridiculous. You literally look like an autist, it's not a matter of destroying any sort of liberty. It's still legal and no one cares, it's just stupid and a hand gun will be easier to manipulate in any situation where you'd normally need a hand gun. Not to mention in all those vidoes you see where CC'ing works out if they had been OC'ing a long gun the muggers/robbers/whatever would have fucking whacked them on the head from behind first thing. Totally ruining the point of carrying in public at all, which I'll remind you, is for self-defense. Might as well just paint a big fucking red target on your back saying, "I'm an autistic fuck, please knock me out and steal my rifle." Good job you just gave up a rifle to a criminal and it might be used in crime contributing to the gun statistics that are actually being used to infringe your rights.
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>>34089853
I think it should be legal but I think people shouldn't do it. Kind of like women's right to vote.
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>>34089895
Kek
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>>34089912
Nigga its florida we basically invented shall issue, just get a permit
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>>34090295
The thing about this is, that cops are on call and being paid whether they're doing anything or not, so that's not a good argument.
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>>34092416
yes lol, it feels the same as realizing you spent the whole morning at work walking around with your fly down.
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>>34090262
OC handguns is normal in some places and could be made normal in others. "Normal OC" should not mean "AR-15 slung on my back and mag pouches on my molle vest next to my ecig with Overwatch shirt poking through". Max is Mad but he ain't autistic.

As for the Hand Schrader Starbucks-NRA-meetup weekend-Harley-rider 2nd-exwife-hating 40yo dudes, marching down the street with rifles is about as effective for normalizing open carry as dildowaving leatherdaddies are for normalizing homosexuality. It's both absolute cringe and also a reasonable fear that they'll reflect badly on the rest of us.
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>>34092167
I honestly always thought it was. I have to sling my shotgun off my back when I'm riding to go shoot and I wouldn't fucking dare to take it off anywhere but inside the range. It would just upset normies and for perfectly reasonable reasons.
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>>34089853
>tfw I was going to carry my G3 knockoff slung across my back to whataburger to celebrate soldier day tomorrow

can I do it anyway without OP REEing at me?
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>>34089883
>Second Amendment is a meme

Are you one of those trolls they tell me about?
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>>34090128
sheeiit been that guy before
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>>34094855
>whataburger to celebrate soldier day tomorrow
kys
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>>34094922
I'd walk to the range but I don't think you understand how far away everything is in tx
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>>34090637
wrong. people have normalized police and security armed in public and they are tiny tiny fraction of the public.
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>>34092341
ok and you can end up prison like the rest of the idiots that have tried this.
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>>34093066

>government makes PDFs illegal
>just use a shitty handgun instead
>wahh wahh why wont people use muh pea shooters
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>>34089853
Look, it is and should be legal to carry a long gun into mcdonalds, you are right. But you are making people think you are unhinged because you are carrying a longgun primarily for shock value. Its simply not practical or "normal" to carry a long gun around. Not even cops or military regularly carry longarms, they carry pistols, because pistols are small enough to be practical.

It would be like if you were walking around with a full desktop PC setup, going into starbucks and setting it all up on a table and working on. People would think you were insane or retarded, because a normal person would use a laptop.

Also please, pretty please, dress in business casual attire if you are doing stuff like this. For your daily trip to walmart sure, wear sweatpants and a MLP teeshirt if you are conceal carrying, but if you are open carrying to demonstrate or otherwise be an attention whore, please look like what the rest of the world considers respectable. Looks matter unfortunately.

tl;dr
AR= gaming rig
pistol= laptop
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>>34095052
>Not even cops or military regularly carry longarms, they carry pistols, because pistols are small enough to be practical.

hmmmm the transit police i go by 5 days a week all year long on my commute to work wear full plate and ammo rigs and carry stuff ARs and various H&K long guns.

i guess they are just a figment of my imagination.
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>>34095117
You know what i mean. The average cop is NOT carrying his AR, its in the trunk of his squad car.

The whole point of a pistol is to be practical, they dont do anything else well compared to a long gun. They were literally invented to be carried for oh shit moments.
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>>34094962

If anyone comes into a joint with his rifle at low ready or any ready for that matter..his/her intentions are set.
They have just entered a building with their weapon DRAWN. This is universally considered an active threat. It is in fact with NO doubt BRANDISHING.
Brandishing is considered a threat to life and limb.

Open carrying is one thing. If I'm having lunch sitting down enjoying my sandwich and juice box and I see a barrel come through the glass door with some faggot making entry. His intentions are set. It would be the same fucking thing if the ass hat came in with his pistol drawn.

I just saved my life and countless other lives.
I don't know that mans/womans intentions.
He was brandishing a weapon coming through the door.


I'm not going to jail - i'm getting a fucking medal.

stay butthurt.
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>>34095117
>hmmmm the transit police i go by 5 days a week all year long on my commute to work wear full plate and ammo rigs and carry stuff ARs and various H&K long guns.

And the necessity of cops to be loaded out like they are posing for the cover of COD is a subject for another thread.
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>>34089883
How is somebody supposed to reasonably discern that every time somebody reaches for their pockets they're not about to pull out a pocket pistol and go postal?
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>>34090348
yup.
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>>34090609
there is no right to carry a long-gun uncased in a city.
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>>34092463
carrying a cased weapon is perfectly legal everywhere.
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>>34095382
Outside of the second amendment you mean...

It's classless, and silly, but they still have the right.
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>>34095429
no, there is no right at all to carry a loaded long-gun in a city. The 2nd Amendment is merely a statement of the common-law right to arms. Loaded sidearms are one thing, long guns are completely different.
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Don't be an austist and ruin it for the rest of us; leave you long arms at home.
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>>34090211
Found the closeted tranny.
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>>34095433

Sorry bud, "Shall not be infringed" means something.

Just because it makes you uncomfortable is no defense.

Personally I'd prefer if Fatty and Snowboots were more discrete, but that does not give you or I the right to infringe on their rights.
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>>34089975
Why can we not just open carry like the guy on the far right. Looks reasonable.
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>>34090637
And of those, there aren't enough normies with actual social skills.
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>>34095485
actually it does, because it isn't a right
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>>34095462
>closet tranny
>when trannies are attention whores.
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>>34092324
I don't really care. Just don't be a dick and keep your hands off your piece unless you're ready to draw it.
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>>34095523

yeah, it is, at least in the U.S. .
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>>34095433
Sorry asshat but there is a right to carry. We have a right to carry our guns because we have a right to posses, to transport, to handle, maintain, and to exchange our guns, and what do you have to do to preform any of those actions? Have a rifle on your person, most likely in your hands. Wait a minute.

Carry. Noun. to support and move (someone or something) from one place to another.

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO OPENLY INTERACT WITH OUR ARMS YOU NIGGER!
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You have the "right" to do a lot of things that you probably shouldn't do, and this is one of them. Piss off enough people who didn't have a problem with guns until some fat-fingered fuck nugget started carrying his bargain-basement AR into Chipotle, and you "rights" will disappear faster than you can say "SHALL".
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>>34095563
Sorry buddy, but our rights trump your feelings for a reason. you can get as mad, as triggered, as frightened, and as Irritated as you want, you can tell us what you think about people open carrying and you can even hold a town hall to discuss with the people doing it why it's a bad idea, but there is one thing you can't do, restrict the rights of people to interact with an item they are aloud to legally possess.
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>>34095117
>hmmmm

Stopped reading. You sound like a fag and I hope you die of AIDS.
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>>34095585
Who said anything about my feelings? Maybe stop projecting so hard.

I don't know if you a familiar with this, but we live in a representative democracy. And your rights only extend as far as the people are willing to grant them to you. Nothing is absolute, especially if you abuse them.
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>>34095585
>our rights trump your feelings

Until, by public referendum, you no longer have those rights. Whine about feelings all you want, but public sentiment eventually turns into law. Acting like a social retard doesn't help your case.
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>>34095563
Yes and no.

The misuse of rights that preexist outside of the realm of government, such as those protected under the bill of rights, should not ever disappear simply because of social convenience.

However, the way in such rights are exercised should also carry some measure of agreed upon discretion.

Such as "not randomly screaming "NIGGER" " in some parts of an urban locale.
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>>34095612
>Who said anything about my feelings?>>34095563
Piss off enough people who didn't have a problem with guns until some fat-fingered fuck nugget started carrying his bargain-basement AR into Chipotle, and you "rights" will disappear faster than you can say "SHALL".
>Piss off enough people who didn't have a problem with guns
>Piss off
>>34095618
>>34095612
We have a Constitution for a reason, because men are endowed with inalienable rights. One of those rights is the right to bare and keep arms, as stated in our constitution. Just because the government or the people do not like it, doesn't mean that it cannot be done. By the way, nice try, you say the people, but we know you mean the state "controlled" by the people. Last time we had that load of horse shit stripping people of their rights, it was called communism.
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>>34089853
If turrists were competent, they'd be surprise shooting open carriers. Your AR doesn't make you any less shootable if you can't see it coming.
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>>34090253
The reason is that it is their God given right to keep and bear arms(do they need help making it more tasteful? Yes). How hard is that to understand?
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>>34095629
>Such as "not randomly screaming "NIGGER" " in some parts of an urban locale.

How about not anywhere?
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>>34095666
>God given right to keep and bear arms

No such thing, Satan.
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>>34095669
Because you have the right to do so.
Not that it is the wisest course of action.
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>>34095676
Get out of my country then you fucking Bolshevik.
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>>34089853
I understand your aversion to it
I just don't give a fuck. Get bent, commie.
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can't afford cc permit
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>>34095715
>needing a CC permit to CC.
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>attention whores getting BTFO
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>>34089956
>more gun legislature
>(((you)))
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>>34089853
Not too long ago you wouldn't be socially shamed for carrying a weapon. Be it a gun, sword, ax, bow, spear, etc. What's changed is we're a pussified society now where females get too much of a say, and your punk ass is influenced by them if you partake in such social shaming. You've lost your way, it would be like telling Ug the caveman he can't carry a spear. Fuck you, who are you to say a human can't carry a tool to defend himself, or decide for him which tools are and are not acceptable.
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>>34095733
times change, manchild
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>>34095647
You act like the Constitution has never been amended. It has, frequently, and will continue to be changed to fit the political mood of the times. Further, why would you even try to hide yourself behind its protections when you clearly hold the people who give it power and validity in contempt?
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>>34095733
Depending on the circumstance, "kind of".

Carrying a rifle into a shop where it'd prove to be an encumberance and liable to damage wares would get you tossed out.

The shit we have now where peope are losing their collective shit over someone with a Hi-point in a shitty low-ride holster is absurd though.

If you are so socially dense as to think it's okay to tote your AR into my shop, that's fine. The Second ensures that right.

However~ You sweep some shit off the shelf with the muzzle because you insisted on being an obtuse coneheaded idiot who had to tote his rifle shaped hugbox into my shop, and shit is on.
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>>34095745
Times change you say? Then tell me why we have Muslims invading Europe again, tell me why once again white people are fighting for their lives in the Congo, tell me once again why Germany is building an army and threatening Poland. Times have not changed, the texture has.

>>34095754
And you! To say that the people who give the Constitution it's power is the state and not the armed populus, is like saying rocks can't break windows when niggers are literally using them to get into your kitchen. The Constitution is amended, however that doesn't mean the citizenry lacks the right and the sacred duty to overthrow a government that has been corrupted into suppressing their inalienable rights. Especially those found in the bill of rights.
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>>34095754
You're wasting your keystrokes.
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>>34095754

Then work toward a constitutional convention, instead of the level of idiotic melange of shitty gun laws we have now.

If you do not like the wording of the second, then work to change it, instead of being one of those prancing fucktards who acts all oppressed at the sight of someone with a pistol on their hip.
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>>34095802
>Work to change it.
I would sooner have my liver eaten by a rabid dog! I would sooner tie that bloody Bolshevik down to a chair, butcher his daughters, castrate his sons, and disembowel his pets, all in front of him before coating him in petrol and lighting the damn match, before I ever let communist hands touch our constitution!
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>>34095802
>If you do not like the wording of the second, then work to change it, instead of being one of those prancing fucktards who acts all oppressed at the sight of someone with a pistol on their hip.

For the last fucking time, no one here thinks the constitution should be changed. The concern is that people acting like fuckwits with guns will influence the general public's opinion and ruin it for all of us. Stop trying to ascribe opinions that were never implied.
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>>34095733
Actually yes you would. Depending on location and time period, carrying a sword in an urban setting would cause you to be immediately imprisoned, assuming you weren't beaten to death by the guard for suspicion of resisting arrest. Spears and strung bows were similarly regulated (of course, no decent yeoman would keep his bow strung when not in use for fear of ruining the bend), while axes occupied a middle ground defined by their make and intended use. The only weapons usually available to non-nobility for open, urban carry were the dagger and the staff. Even in the barbarian cultures there were clear social limits on how and when a man should be armed, heavily dependent on social standing and location.
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>>34095826
Who the hell are you to decide what constitutes acting like a fuckwit?
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>>34095837
carrying your AR into chipotle is the dictionary definition of acting like a fuckwit
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>>34095836
Proof?

PROOF?
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>>34095836
We are not a monarchic society though, we are a Constitutional republic. We have a right to bare and keep arms. Arms being any and all forms of weaponry or materials that can be used as weaponry.
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>>34095851
Show me the dictionary.
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>>34095862
ask your mom
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>>34095802
Show me one instance where I advocated otherwise you illiterate shit.

>>34095754
>>34095618
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>>34095724
>being born in one of the 11 states with constitutional carry
what are the odds?
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>>34095877
I mean saying an action is the textbook definition of something doesn't mean your right.

If I were to outlaw forks citing that stabbing something with a sharpened point of metal is the textbook definition of barbaric, then I could expand that definition to cover any and all actions that can be considered 'barbaric' by legal precident.
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>>34095853
Google renaissance European weapon carry laws and go from there. You're sitting in front of the single most advanced information retrieval system ever even imagined. There is no excuse for this level of both laziness and ignorance.

>>34095854
I never claimed we were. The post I was replying to implied that there was some sort of golden age our generation just missed when men could carry what they wanted when they wanted with no social or legal repercussions. This is not the case.
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>>34095883
Pray I never meet you, socialist pig.
>>34095936
That golden age existed when America was first founded and had adopted the bill of rights.
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>>34095936
>Google renaissance European weapon carry laws and go from there. You're sitting in front of the single most advanced information retrieval system ever even imagined. There is no excuse for this level of both laziness and ignorance.
It's not my fucking problem to provide proof.

Also
>renaissance
We are talking about medieval.
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>>34095429
In the wild west, open carry in the cities was forbidden. In the fucking wild west, where everyone had a gun at their side, oc in the city was not legal.. but somehow it is today
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>>34095117
What the fuck dystopia modern American city are you in? Let me guess, LA or Chicago or something? Besides the fact that this is /k/ I guess the UK would be a good guess given current events.
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>>34096070
It wasn't in Texas until a few months ago. Now we can all be historically inaccurate cowboys at Barton Springs!
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>>34089853
It's definitely obnoxious and does nothing but hurt the cause. If you're going to OC a long gun get a proper scabbard for it and don't fucking pose with it like a worthless fucking retard. Carrying like the jackasses in OP's pic just scares people and makes more antis. Posing like that is an amazing way to get SWAT or even just a random off duty to punch your card. When you carry a gun you leave it the fuck alone unless you need it regardless of OC or CC.

Yes yes... shall not be infringed. Because that's absolutely going to stop upper management from banning guns in their stores and the Democrats totally give a shit about the constitution. Face it, while we may have dodged the big one last November we can still lose out on plenty of things because some idiots decided to do stupid shit. Last thing we need is more businesses putting up the sign and more excuses for tyrannical fuckwits to push more infringing laws.
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>>34096144
>we may have dodged the big one last November

The last few months suggest that we stepped out of the way of a speeding car and into the part of a freight train.
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>>34089853
>>tasteless OC into public

You have the "tastes" of a hysterical soccer mom.

>do not understand others aversion to it

I understand why our enemies fear us and I actively support making them even more fearful.

>Anyone care to rationally explain why this blatantly attention whoring shit is okay?

Because attention whoring works. Gays are the biggest attention whores in the entire world. And they won. Gays have so much power now. They are the new bullies. You can call them annoying, but you can’t argue with success. Marxists use bully tactics against us. I say we use it against them. Get in their faces. We're here. We're armed. Get use to it.
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>>34090450

LMAO those cops are autistic as fuck.
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>>34096144
I have no problem with a store having a no guns on my property policy, but I do have a problem with any kind of government restriction on arms. We have a right to bear and keep arms and store owners have a right to refuse service.
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Open carry of long guns should be legal if you can pass a fitness test and a genetic test. Fit whites only.
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>>34095433
>to keep and BEAR arms
This straight up means you can carry them and implies openly. It also says "arms" rather than "pistols", "unloaded long guns", or "long guns in cases" and does not specify weapon status at all.

There's also that nasty well regulated militia section people like to play with. To be a well regulated militiaman your weapon ought to be ready for use at a moments notice and yourself ready to act, that implies functional, loaded, and chambered in the case of a firearm. Before you say it every able bodied male 17-45 is legally considered militia, the vast majority fitting into the "unorganized militia" category (not NG or the "Naval Militia"). Title 10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes (used to be § 311). Based on this yeah, you can absolutely carry a loaded and open rifle. Just be courteous and responsible about it. Use a damn scabbard.

>>34096161
Depends on how you look at it. If Hillary had won and the dems had taken congress we'd be beyond fucked right now. All those old as fuck lefty justices would have stepped down, gotten replaced by young fanatical "progressives", and suddenly the second amendment would have as much power as a piece of used toilet paper. They could have passed whatever they wanted with no worry of the supreme court slapping it down and no worry of the republicans stopping them in congress.

>>34096185
>I do have a problem with any kind of government restriction on arms
This is generally why we generally hate the democrats. Nobody in our government wants to ban guns more than the democrat party. There are a few exceptions but you could say it's nearly "universal".

>store owners have a right to refuse service
They absolutely do, but the idea is to not force their hand. A normally neutral store putting up the sign because Jose Retardo the village fuckhead decided to carry his rifle like the guy on the right in OP's pic is a sad thing for the rest of us. Basically a moron ruining a good thing.
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Watch liberals attempt to play the "b-but we can compromise" card. No. Rights are rights. Being a cuck is being a cuck. Even something stupid and tasteless if you have the right to do it is something you have the right to do and can be done freely.
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>>34096255
The fun part is holy fuck we have compromised and some of it we even actually agree with occasionally, but they never acknowledge it and always demand more.
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>>34089853
>stop liking what I don't like
The post
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>>34096345
>I exclusively use 4chan comebacks to defend my autism
The post
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>>34096353
>I have no real argument
The post
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>>34096345
>>34096353
>>34096359
>Cringe
The posts
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>>34096255
>even something stupid is a right
this. The two things are not mutually exclusive, I can go down the city streeets bare chest with a collar and 'SLUT' painted on it, but it would be pretty shameful, even if its a right. But america never had much taste anyway, so I'm not surprised to see autistic derek walking around with a 1 point slinged ar. I bet if we euros had oc we'd have pretty tasteful leather holsters and long arms equivalents to keep them somewhat concealed, while US fellows are all for tacticool shit.. looks like most of them never grew out of the 14-18yo phase.
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>>34089862
>>34089877
Carry it on your back you stupid niggers
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>>34096255
It shouldn't be illegal, but it's definitely a way to immediately point out a faggot.
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Isn't open carrying objectively less threatening than CC? Concealing a firearm is generally viewed as harboring malicious intent. Especially considering none of these OCautists ever light anybody up.
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>>34096453
Problems start when they're handling their firearms. You shouldn't even be worried about TD because you shouldn't be fucking touching it unless you legit need to pop a bitch or you're adjusting it to make sure it remains aimed in a safe direction.
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>>34096453
>Isn't open carrying objectively less threatening than CC?

Used to be considered that way.
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>>34096453
Yeah, they are basically the little kid walking around with his toy truck telling all the people he sees "see my truck?"

It is silly and childish, but the people that bitch about it instead of just chuckling at the foolishness and walking away are even more silly and childish.
They are the same as some faggot that would tell the mother "you should make him leave that at home and not bother people in public about it. If he were my kid I would stop him."
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>>34096419
>if we had the freedom u had, wed do it better, take my word for it

Guess we will never find out.
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>>34096533
you're sadly right.
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>>34096419
see >>34096533
had to call my local fire department for that burn.
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>>34096419
Who said you get to take your collar off? No pets for you tonight, slut.
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>>34089912
I wouldn't have a problem expanding OC in FL, but I would likely not OC anyway outside of the "hunting/fishing/camping" exception already allowed with NO permit. Just asking for harassment from SJW's and cops, and I wouldn't have the patience.

FL cops are getting better educated about the OC exceptions though, thanks to some of the more responsible and educated OC activists. They're still likely to show up 3 deep and try to demand ID and "secure the firearm for officer safety" though.

And since a lot of cops are "fear for my life" cowards, and a lot of OC guys are a little high strung about it, most encounters aren't going to be between an informed officer calmly following the law and a rational citizen quietly exercising his rights.

I think LEOs need more training about lawful carry. Mostly they're taught they're supposed to be the only ones with a gun, and they need to be forever ready to get the jump on anyone else who might have one. Then an adrenalin dump happens and people get shot.

Would be nice to OC where it's allowed and have a cop ignore you because he knows it's allowed. Most times they can't wait to attempt to give somebody a ration of shit over it.
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>>34090220
It is OC. It's just acceptable and legal OC, like OC while hunting, fishing, or camping.
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If it is tasteful for a policeman to open carry, it should be for any common man.
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>>34096674
Remember we're police, stick with the prod
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>>34096684
Gimme the GEP Gun.
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>>34089896
There's a lot of things that I would agree should be outlawed about firearms. But I will never actually support any of them actually being outlawed for one single reason. It's a snow ball effect. If we give an inch of ground anywhere, the momentum becomes really hard to stop.
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>>34091650

There are people saying "no you don't have the right" in this very thread you dumb shitskin.
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>>34092463

If you don't have a case during transport you are an idiot.

> Buys $1000 gun
> doesn't buy $100 case to protect your investment.
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>>34092463
Tell that to Maryland, or DC, or Jew York, faggot.
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Libertarians should be gassed
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>>34090284
I remember having an argument with a liberal on some other board and I used natural selection as part of my argument. The motherfucker said that I was using the 'is/ought' and 'naturalistic' fallacies. Apparently natural selection being a thing that still applies to us as a species is a fallacy now.
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>>34097946
Authoritarians should be put against a wall
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>>34095612
If you live in America you live in a republic. Not a representative democracy. Big difference. But now i understand your flawed thinking
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Well, open carry protests in Texas actually had a point beyond just "look at muh gunz". And I don't really have a problem with planned, organized group demonstrations in outdoor public spaces. But yeah the people who then ran with it beyond that point are retarded. Walking around an Applebees with an AR at low ready is fucking retarded.
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>>34089959
>>34092177
pls more
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>>34098136
The point oc is trying to make everywhere is trying to get back to the constitution as it was written. Not how it has been interpreted to match someones ideas. The constitution can be changed if done correctly. Until then it should be as written.
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>>34089853
I mean you can and its your right but there is a difference between OC when you need to and OC a rifle unnecessarily for the sake of it.
They are well within their right to OC and I am against "common sense gun laws" because they don't exists but if you are OC just to show your power level and be an obnoxious cunt you are the MAJOR problem with the Gun community because you are the faggots who create the stigma around the 2nd amendment when there should be none. >>34089885 said it better than I ever could.
There is no cure for Autism lads so just let it happen, doesn't harm anyone and it outs proper cunts so you know to avoid talking to them.
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>>34090017

Future civil rights leaders
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>>34089853

Open carry is stupid and retarded and makes gun owners look bad and scares the shit out of people
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>>34098352
The same could be said about a knife clipped to your pocket for the world to see. Oc carry looks bad to and scares anti gun people for the most part. Fear wans over time. Im sure the first cars, ladders, or electricity scared people.
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>>34089951
>>34091372
You fucking pussies do you even know what brandishing means? They would have to change the definition of the word you fearful faggot just to fit your stupid world fuck you im glad you're both nobodies who'll never change anything.
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>>34089956
Fucking move to mexico then where only police carry guns in the city.
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>>34090151
At least they're actually doing something in public interacting with people instead of anonymously shitposting on a new zealand chia pet forum.

Who's the real basement dweller neckbeard that doesn't go out? You right now, and me.
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>>34090919
Implying cowboys didnt open carry everyfuckingwhere

What is every settler and entire west.

Op is probably some brit fuck who couldn't open carry a butter knife if he wanted to.
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>>34096170
I see nothing wrong with either of these pictures.

sincerely,
A Libertarian.
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>>34096170
I'm glad somebody else gets it. We've been standing on our dignity for fifty fucking years and losing -- and not merely with regards to guns. It's sauce for the gander time.
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