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Were ninjas/shinobi the original tier 1 operators?
>Ninjutsu (忍術?), sometimes used interchangeably with the modern term ninpō (忍法?),[1] is the strategy and tactics of unconventional warfare, guerrilla warfare and espionage purportedly practiced by the shinobi (commonly known outside Japan as ninja).
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yeah. modern unconventional warfare, just like everything used by modern mankind, originated from Japan.
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Meh, it's pretty close.
You have plain clothe civie-looking combatants that are actually highly trained and with the aim of either counter-guerrilla or assassination.
And they use a variety of gears considered weird compared to the mainstay army.
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>Ninja utilized a large variety of tools and weaponry, some of which were commonly known, but others were more specialized. Most were tools used in the infiltration of castles. A wide range of specialized equipment is described and illustrated in the 17th century Bansenshukai,[73] including climbing equipment, extending spears,[66] rocket-propelled arrows,[74] and small collapsible boats
pretty fuggin cool
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>>34084245
No. They were mostly spies and occasional assassins, and like all spies and assassins were fucking useless in a standup fight. In intelligence work, if you have to start doing James Bond/Seal team shit then you've failed your mission and wasted everybody's time.
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>>34085476
You mean like modern specops?
They are useless in a standup fight too.
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It helps when you realize that they never actually wore those black costumes. Those are what kabuki stagehands wore when moving set pieces around. Ninja would have disguised themselves as Samurai, monks, merchants, farmers etc.
It's every bit as daft as the modern autists who bedeck themselves in 5.11 gear and claim to be "grayman."
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>>34085863
No they aren't they just generally aren't running around in large enough numbers. Not their fault the powers that be try to use them as irl 80s action heroes instead of their intended role
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>>34085476
From what I know they mainly just killed people and then usually themselves. Or that may be a Buddhist sect of them.
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>>34084245
Read the Ninja series by Steven K Hayes (free digital copies of volumes 1-3 are easy to find) - some of it seems like BS but there's a bunch of unconfirmed stories regarding the Togakure-Ryu Shinobi from the Iga region.
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>>34085863
Standup fights are for grunts
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>>34084245
Bumping this thread before it goes extinct
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>>34084245
>original tier 1 operators
Fat idiots like to pretend to be them so yes.
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