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Cowbow Bebop is set in 2071 and all the firearms featured are real world guns.

Do you guys think it's likely we'll still be using a lot of the firearms we have today even into the late 21st Century? Or even beyond?
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Gun designs pretty much peaked and everyone's pushing out Glock clones so yes, we'll be using the same shit forever.
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>>34077914
Well, the 1911 is still used quite a bit, as well as a lot of DA revolvers with 75+ year old tech, so while today's guns may not be most used in 2071, there will be plenty of nostalgia fags out there carrying Glocks
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>>34077987
I would pay to see a time where people are actually nostalgic over Glocks.
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Any particular technology eventually gets to a point where it's 95% as good as it's ever going to get, and after that all we'll see will be slow refinements. Guns are at that point now, and have been for about 50 years. There's no reason to believe that the next 50 will be much different.
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>>34077914
Pretty much so, yeah. Unless there exist major breakthroughs in energy technology (think lasblasters, other directed energy weapons, Gauss guns, etc.), you'll still have people arguing over 7.62x39mm vs 5.45x39mm vs 5.56x45mm on their 2070s iNeuralImplants.

The AK is a pretty old design at this point, but there are still plenty of rifles manufactured in the 60s and 70s kicking around in 3rd world combat zones and as parts kits builds alike.
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>>34077965
Until energy weapons.
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>>34077914
We have Fudds in this current year still using pistols designed 106 years ago pretending nothing better has been invented since
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>>34078005
I could see glocks being the garage stens of the future if anyone can print out the plastics
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>>34078063
What about garage plastic ar15s?
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>>34077914
God I hope we're still using these things
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Advances we'll see by 2100

>Polymer Cases
>Recessed/telescoping ammunition

Without a doubt we'll be seeing the same shit - ammo advances will improve feed geometry (Telescoping ammo) and propellants.
Advances in propellants will give small caliber rounds, like PDW ammo like the 5.7, better performance.
But otherwise the same shit will be largely adapted and used.
The only thing we may see truly out of the ordinary is a return of pistols without reciprocating slides
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>>34078029
By 2070 1911's will still be a thing - shooting supersonic telescoped plastic case .45
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>>34078028
Energy weapons are a meme, too inefficient and no mass to add kinetic energy.

Electromagnetically accelerated projectiles are the future.
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Probably just an advance in propellant technology so gunpowder produces drastically less flash and more energy. Won't be as substantial a change as smokeless powder and new models of current guns will meet the need.
On the plus side better propellants will make small caliber PDW ammunition perform much more like current intermediate rifle ammo
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>>34078203
The next great break in firearms tech will be projectiles capable of moving at 1/15th to 1/6th the speed of light. Odds are Electromagnetic acceleration will be paired with chemical propellants - a Chemrail makes the most sense anyway
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>>34078237
How much would a chemrail heat up the handguard?
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>>34077914
Well, considering we'll have experienced an ecosystem crash by then...
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1911 is still around in Warhammer 40k.
It just works.
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>>34078708
Really?
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DA/SA will die in your lifetime
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>>34078751
yee

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Stub_gun
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>>34078753
What makes you say that?
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>>34078538
basically this

we well on our way to the next great extinction event
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>>34077914
tfw only 1 character uses a USP and its a shitty villain.

why even live?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yifLZ91NeBA
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>>34078029
No good gun has been invented in the past 106 years tho
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>>34077914
No. Everyone will buy and use Hudson 9s.
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>>34078145
>rail
Disgusting.
Canik's Jericho clone actually has the rail cut into the frame instead of adding on to keep the lines intact.
It's a real shame that the only railed Jericho that keeps the looks down is aluminum-frame turkshit.
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>>34077914
no
there are quite a few areas that can be worked on.

improvements in heat dissapation
improvements in automated recoil control
as other anons have already said improvements in propellants.
the widespread use of reusable cartridges and shells
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>>34078028
Energy weapons are meme. What we really be using is microdrones.
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>>34079076
why not use nanomachines
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>>34079106
microscopic warfare. the wars of the future will be fought on battlefields no larger than a square millimeter
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>>34077914

Yeah, In the year 2104 Private security forces on a colony ship were still using DPMS AR-15s with magpul furniture... instead of pulse rifles.
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>>34077965
Nobody is pushing out glock clones... If its not 1911 based its cz based...
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The polymer used in Glocks and many other equipment today only has a lifetime of 40 years so no it will not be around without being a cloudy grey colour and getting stress fractures.
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>>34079195
What?
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>>34077914
until railgun tech is made handheld traditional kinetic weapons from 1950 onward will be the staple. The P226 is basically a Hi Power with a flared breach instead of locking lugs. The only thing I see changing drastically is the metals and materials used. Graphene, titanium, etc.

I want a titanium 75 bd so badly
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>>34077914
There was a catastrophic Astral Gate accident in 2022 that kill almost 5 billion people, destroyed the moon, and left the Earth mostly uninhabitable.
There are only about 1.5 billion people left in the whole solar system.

Cowboy Bebop's setting is the other end of a sudden civilizational collapse so it makes sense that they are still using old weapons.
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>>34078021
What about ammunition technology? I don't see how we won't get some refinement or change to the primer/case/powder/bullet as a stepping stone till we get even tread into energy weapons
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>>34077914

This is a show which also predicted that the space shuttle Columbia would still exist in the future.
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>>34078815
>>34078538
Here's to hoping we have some time to send someone to mars by then and accelerated research into terraforming and colonization.
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>>34078838
The tranny uses one.
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>>34078516

Potentially less than current fully chemical propelled ammo.

Especially if they can make the magnetic acceleration impart spin, removing the need for barrel rifling altogether.
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>>34079587

I thought Faye uses a Glock?
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>>34079616
glock 30 IIRC
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>>34079616
He meant this guy.
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>>34077914
I mean Stargate had Dragunovs and P90s.
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>>34079616
>>34079618
>>34077914
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop
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>>34079625
I did.
>>34079616
Not trying to sound condescending or anything, but why did you think tranny meant Faye?
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>>34079625
>>34079655
Gren
He and Vicious can both be seen using G36's in the wars on Mars, in the flashbacks.
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Yea, but except they'll be made of 3D printed plastic.
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>>34079567
Fuck you, it's a million times easier to fix the earth then terraforming a whole nother planet. It's only retarded cunts like you that believe the earth is going to do anything worse then some dust storms and tropical weather.
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>>34079625
>guy
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>>34079702
but muh sea level rise 1 foot in 100 years
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>>34079448
He's talking about Alien Covenant.

Instead of pulse rifles and smart guns like the two actually good alien movies, they had ARs and AUGs along with some shotguns covered in a million accessories.

It was a shit movie.
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>>34077965
>Gun designs pretty much peaked
i don't think so, if we have a revolution in battery technology then electromagnetic weapons will become the new standard.
>more rounds for the same space and weight of magazine
>more silent, way harder to detect
>more flexible firing pattern configuration
>smart guns helping you to hit what you want and not whit friendlies

i think we are just getting started.
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>Do you have a comrade?
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>>34077914
In the far future, there could be nanobots capable of killing someone from the inside out controlled by an AI. The Singularity and transhumanism in general will probably revolutionize warfare.
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>>34079048
>Desert Eagle Pistol
>slide safety
Kek
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>>34077914
We still use guns that are just variations of stuff that was invented more than hundred years ago.

Even the most hi-tech stuff we have at this point is over third of century old at this point.

The most likely innovation is>>34078170
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>>34079639
>stargate dragunov

i dont believe this
i mean they gave the later tard badguys aks because they couldnt afford good props anymore but hey
stargate had lotsathings
but i dont remember a dragunov
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>>34080064
>>34079639
nvm, i remember now...
season six the ruskie sg team
they also had a pkm yes?
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>>34078028
>>34078203
Energy and electromagnetic weapons would probably be useless in a mad max type scenario. They would probably require some sort of power source, which would run out. Current guns and bullets don't require electricity and can last for decades.
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>>34078209

Full metal guns make a comeback due to polymers not holding up with advanced propellants

Full metal Glocks... oh baby
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>>34079839
I don't want my gun being hacked, and fuck having to charge it, guns are fine as is. No need to complicate things.
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>>34078028
We'll all still be using AR's and 1911's when portable lasers come out because it isn't worth investing in the new tech until plasma weapons are possible.

>>34079524
And combined with this, most of the people in the show are criminals, mercenaries, or cheap bounty hunters so they use surplus everything.
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>>34079839
Sure, but first we have to get significantly less shit at storing energy, which I don't foresee happening all that soon.
Hell, we could already have hover cars, man carried Gauss/laser , colonization projects on Mars, etc... If we just had better batteries.
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>>34080099
>Glocks, a design that people tolerate because it's a polymer frame becomes metal only
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>>34079205
Every new pistol coming out is a polymer framed striker fired pistol. Glock didn't do it first, but they're the ones who made it big.
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its a nigger gun
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>>34077914
.....yeah
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>>34080099
Nigga...

Metal framed striker fired guns
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>>34077914
We're still using machine guns that are literally 100 years old (m2 machine gun) what's another 50 or 60 years?
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>>34077914
Either energy based weapons become a thing, people stop using weapons, or ballistic weapons still reign. Only options I can see.
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>>34080206
>Metal frame striker fired guns

Kahr K series. They already exist.
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>>34077914
>year 2108
>nearly all handguns are glocks or similar
>they fire a version of the current 5.7 necked up to the base diameter of the case, making it .31 caliber
>delivers 10mm level energy and tremendous expansion
>goes through level IIIA body armor at 100 yards
>20+ round magazines
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>>34077914

> 2071
> 54 years from right now
> Guns will still be around
> Most of US will still be around
> Nuggets will be under 2,000 and still a poorfag gun.
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>>34079548
One of the most based episodes.
>ywn live in a barren earth with an airport full of all kinds of aircraft under various states of repair
>ywn have an M4 Sherman aircraft tug
>ywn have a personal space shuttle

why live?
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>>34079990
>hurr slide safeties are gay
>implying you can be a space cowboy without a slide safety
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>>34077914
the phase out of modern weapons will be very gradual
today people are still using ancient weapon in the middle east, asia and africa

first better weapons need to be designed
then they need to be manufactured/tested
then doctrine has to catch up
then enough need to be produced to actually replace our current generation
then the price needs to come down enough for people to make the switch

at that point our generation of weapons will be throw away pieces used by tomorrows niggers

and due to modern stockpiling, they will be around for several hundred years
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>>34077914

Nope. Libs will have them outlawed.
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>>34078012

better bullets better powder somehow makes 22lr effective ?
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>>34079773
Not gay until you see the benis
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>>34080128
Electromagnetic doesn't mean a full computer on the network. It could just be some little 8-bit microcontroller.
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>>34080592
nice yahoo comments-tier post, faggot
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>>34079606
>>34078028
>>34078203
>>34079606
>>34078538
>>34078815
>>34079106
>>34079830
>>34079606
>>34079839


>I Fucking Love Science!!! XD


50 years from now, the army will still be using an AR platform and the world will still be here.

Oh, and bullpups will be Even less popular then they are now.
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>>34080785
50 years from now I choose to believe robot arms make them relevant again.
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>>34080785
>implying caseless ammo won't be adopted

it almost was adopted by a major European power 25 years ago
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>>34080845
>6.5mm HESH
Make it happen.
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>>34080876
Caseless ammo is autistic and solves a minor issue while creating more stupid problems while being way more expensive. I get it though, you want something sleek and futuristic.

Logistics and practicality do not care about your autism futurism power fantasy.

>>34080845
>Robot arms

Full retard.
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Kinda makes me think on the TV show Firefly. In a huge civil war you see both armies using modern day assault rifles (G36's, L85A1's a FAMAS here and there) and an anti air emplacement consists of old soviet DsHK machine guns that were made to fire some kind of energy projectile if memory serves right. Later it's a lot of lever actions and revolvers you see on border worlds still using combustion and solid projectiles. And at the same time you have more modern day weapons that have seemingly been retrofitted to fire energy projectiles (like an M60 pintle mounted to a hover car that is firing solid yet energy rounds)

Maybe future generations will have a very good "if it's not broke, make it fire plasma bolts," mentality
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>>34080983
You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>34081038
We see revolvers and lever-action rifles and all that, because they wanted that western feel to the show. I think they still have that space mumbo jumbo in them though, not just good ol' gunpowder.

Also becsuse border world outlaws and poorshits and all that.

The Alliance and Core worlds use lasers and sonic guns and other more futuristic shit.
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>>34080983
>he thinks robot arms are retarded
what a faggot
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>>34077914
While rifle design is still seeing significant improvements and will likely continue seeing improvements for the foreseeable future (M855A1 and the LSAT program being good examples). Handgun design is pretty much hitting its upper limits, at least until we get improved powder and metallurgy that would allow for intermediate caliber SCHV rifle ballistics (think current 5.56 from a 8"+ barrel) from a normal ~8" long service pistol. We can get rifle like ballistics out of a normal service pistol currently with .460 Rowland, but that uses the same fat/heavy bullets that pistols normally use and would generate similar felt recoil to normal .44 magnum loads if it wasn't for the muzzle brake that is required when doing the conversion. Beyond that we'll just see more companies putting out significantly customizable grips, modular frames, and slides cut for red dot sights (all of which can either be done with existing pistols or just offers an alternative to finding a pistol that fits you well out of the box currently/adjusting to your pistol). This is all of course assuming that external factors don't change such as people's preferences when it comes to pistol calibers or if lightweight body armor proliferates and people want to punch through it rather than just shoot around it (though 9mm ammunition capable of penetrating an NIJ IIIa vest is already available).

>>34080785
>50 years from now, the army will still be using an AR platform
No, they won't. Look up the LSAT program and the ridiculous improvements the polymer cases have shown over conventional 5.56, then consider that the feeding mechanism that those cases need won't fit into an AR in any reasonable way.

>>34080876
Caseless ammo likely won't go anywhere any time soon. It basically has all of the advantages that caseless ammunition has over current conventional ammunition with none of the downsides that caseless ammunition has.
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>>34079702

As much as I hate the book, read SevenEves by Neal Stephenson.

If the moon is destroyed Earth is permafucked.

Tides screwed up.

Constant heavy meteor bombardment by lunar fragments.

Massive, continuous earthquakes.

Good luck fixing that. In the context it actually makes sense that humanitys best bet would be bubble colonies on other worlds. They didn't even terraform them so much as build habitats.
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>>34079830

Not to mention all the couples were either gay or Interracial.

Just another milquetoast brainwashing piece by (((Hollywood)))
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>>34081038

That AA gun was actually a leftover prop from Starship Troopers. So even in that future they're still using them.

And the Morita rifle was just an Mini 14 in a bullpup configuration.
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>>34078753
Take that back you whore
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>>34081183
I should add that even if caseless ammunition or the LSAT designs PCTA proliferates when it comes to rifles those designs can't really be applied to any pistol ammunition that isn't bottlenecked due to the extra diameter they would add, and bottle necked pistol cartridges really aren't that popular today anyways because the bottle necked pistol ammunition doesn't actually offer much of an advantage over existing pistol ammunition so it isn't very likely that companies would spend money developing caseless ammunition/PCTA based on existing bottlenecked pistol ammunition. Also, the weight savings from caseless ammunition/PCTA won't make much of a difference with normal fat/heavy bullets since the bullet is by far the heaviest part of the case and how people generally don't carry much pistol ammunition (even removing the weight of the case completely from current 9mm ammunition would only give you a 7 ounce difference in weight carried assuming you were carrying 3 17 round magazines worth of ammunition).
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>>34080190
By that definition. every pistol has a grip and a trigger. stop cloning percussion-cap pistols. Enfield might not of been the first, but they made it YUUGE
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>>34080983
>Caseless ammo is autistic and solves a minor issue

What issue? getting rid of the ejection process is huge and very practical, I'm not the idiot here. And cartridges are way more expensive than ball and powder, do we still use the latter?
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>>34078753
no but you will

because in the future when we're all immortal brains suspended in jars I'm going to unplug your jar.
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>>34081540
>getting rid of the ejection process is huge and very practical
No, it's not. In a video game world it might be, but in reality there's still the possibility of failures to fire or wanting to unload your gun without firing it, both of which necessitate provisions for ejection. Caseless guns like the HK G11 do in fact have ejection ports. Also, the polymer cased telescoped ammunition from the LSAT program can use the same feed systems as caseless ammunition.
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>>34081336
>>34081183

>Muh ambitious DoD concept will be adopted this time, I swear.

The military is such a stupid fucking organization. They have spent billions looking for a replacement for the M4, yet the programs always produce something that is slightly better with more potential problems.

Mean while, opperaters end up choosing M4s and other more practical weapons when given the option to carry memepups like the F2000.

Because of current gun laws, and the difficulty of getting into the industry, flsmall arm innovation is stuck.

Every recent upgrade to military small arms has been well tested civilian owned products. Mlok, keymod, floating tube, ect.

I'm willing to bet that the LSAT program is shelved after trials. Then they will start a new program to study some really stupid fucking idea.

Meanwhile, more Americans will die for nothing in the middle East, while gear queers jerk off to the knew DoD military industrial charity program.
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>>34081540
>more expensive.

You know, the Army has to hookup their buddies at federal.

Steal Case is the solution, the Russians figured that out 100years ago.
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>>34079048
So much this. The way canik put a rail on it is sex
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>>34079495
Titanium slides operating on titanium rails don't work well bae
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>>34081633
>Muh ambitious DoD concept will be adopted this time, I swear.
Have you even read about the program? A huge difference this time is that the goals for the program weren't ridiculously ambitious like a 50%-100% improvement in gun effectiveness or weighing 4 lbs with an automatic grenade launcher attached (like the ACR, SPIW, and similar programs), the improvement goals have already been met, and the improvements can't simply be tacked on to the existing M4 like they could with the recent improved carbine program.

>yet the programs always produce something that is slightly better with more potential problems.
Except the LSAT program hasn't seen any of those problems yet, would offer massive logistics improvements due to the smaller/lighter ammo which amounts to large cost savings in the constant overseas wars that the US is in, would offer improvements in reliability that can't be achieved with conventional ammunition, and would replace the M249 with a gun that weighs half as much and has outperformed the M249 in the testing they have done.

Basically the only way they could fuck up the program is if they did something retarded, like demand that the current 6.5mm alternative to 7.62 NATO that the LSAT program is also working on be used for everything or other ridiculousness that would amount to purposely trying to make a successful program that has met every goal fail.
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>>34079205
>nobody is pushing out glock clones
>everyone is pushing out CZ clones

Are you baiting or just delusional?
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>>34081650
I meant more expensive to produce, forget the actual prices because they mean nothing
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>>34079616
Kek
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>>34080592

You would be surprised how easy it is to build a tube SMG
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>>34077914
You think that guys in ww1 thought about what people in 2016 would be using to kill each other?

I bet that stuff would have been pretty fucking awful.
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>>34079010

Hi-Power, P-38, and the Radom were all better pistols, and that is pre-war period.

Even the Beretta 1934 is a better overall pistol despite .380
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>>34081650
you literally remove a component from ammunition (making it lighter) and you think that's not useful? It's much more innovative than putting rails on everything
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>>34078237
>Replacement for infantry weapons
>With terajoules of kinetic energy
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>>34077914

Consider that new legal regimes tend to be more lenient on antiquated weapons.

In other words, it was probably much easier for merchants/smugglers/whatever to crap out tons of surplus old guns into space, than new stuff.
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>>34080166
it has to happen at one point some revolutionary quantum level breakthrough allowing us to reach electron density unimaginable before.
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>>34077914
>tfw bought a usp compact specifically because of this episode
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>>34082028
Except a large benefit of cased ammo is heat dissipation. Caseless ammo isn't a wonderous solution with no cons
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>>34077914
Probably, infantry weaponry has mechanically barely changed since the 50's, and we're closer to 2071 than we are to the introduction of 9mm luger
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Centuries from now, after all of us browsing this site are dead and gone, there will still be fuckers meeting their end by being downrange of a Browning M2.
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>>34078170
>Polymer Cases

Polymer casings? Is that even possible?
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>>34082331
See the picture here: >>34081757 and look up the LSAT program.
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>>34081224
>If the moon is destroyed Earth is permafucked.

The Moon is actually slowly drifting away from Earth, so we'll eventually lose it regardless.
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I'm surprised we haven't seen a modern version of Rocket Ball ammo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Ball

Just include a way to manually clear the action of the gun if needed.
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>>34082331

It's a thing already. Not a good thing, but a thing nevertheless.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/03/25/pcp-polymer-cased-ammo-warning/
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>>34082368
See the post here: >>34081336, while the post is about new caseless designs, some of the same points apply. It would make very little difference in weight and effectiveness when it comes to handgun ammunition and wouldn't be worth the cost of developing a completely new gun action/ammo.
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>>34082401
My thoughts were once small arms go to caseless ammo then we can begin the process of making them like recoiless rifle. You'd still have to worry about a backblast area but it wouldn't be nearly as big since the round being shot is smaller.
That advancement will probably never happen though since the design of the gun would likely be awkward.
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>>34082437
>That advancement will probably never happen though since the design of the gun would likely be awkward.
Not only would it be awkward due to you needing part of the gun to extend behind you (which would prevent it from being used in pistols, but those Russian balanced recoil designs achieve significant recoil reduction without the awkwardness and seem to make more sense for use in small arms.
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>>34077914
Is Cowboy Bebop any good?

I watched Akira and I think the movie was a tolerable piece of entertainment. The music was especially good and so was the /comfy/, futuristic, neo-noir atmosphere. That being said, the style of art in that movie is pretty cringy and gay (e.g., the characters having goofy, cartoony faces and white gums with no demarcations for individual teeth).

Is Cowboy Bebop worth watching? Anime comes across as a pretty gay fetish for a subculture of bizarre American suburban dweebs who, for some inexplicable reason, decided to turn a Japanese cultural creation into their shared interest.

Do you only anime fags like Cowboy Bebop or is there something worth watching there for neurotypicals?
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>>34082495
>Is Cowboy Bebop any good?

It's alright, but the movie sucks.
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>>34082495

Bebop is bretty good even for normies.
I used to be a massive weeb and Bebop is one of the few shows I'm not embarrassed about.
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>>34082495
>Anime comes across as a pretty gay fetish for a subculture of bizarre American suburban dweebs who, for some inexplicable reason, decided to turn a Japanese cultural creation into their shared interest.
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>>34082147
maybe not, it's not like caseless ammo is anywhere near as big a breakthrough as cased ammo was, but it's something. We've seen very little firearm innovation in the last 60 years
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>>34079205
beretta apx
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>takes place in 2071
>Spike smokes Marlboro reds in a soft pack
>Faye smokes American Spirit blues
I'm actually kind of curious to see how tobacco products evolve. Also, Bebop's level of attention to detail is insane.
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>>34078203
Depends. area denial by induced ionization will be deployed as a less lethal means for sure. Power is only going to get cheaper. Or at least it production will only keep increasing which may contribute to it's cost effectiveness
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>>34082331
Depends on the polymer. I wouldn't try it with shellac or wood. but some plastics can kinda sorta do it.
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1911. Will we be using glocks 100 years from now? Yeah I think so.
They just won't be 100 year old like my 1911. They be new but still glocks.
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>>34081841
Thats not a cz75 anon.
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>>34082147
only minimal amount of heat is removed by the casing btw.
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>>34077914
It would make sense they'd use old guns seeing as they're poor fags in the show.
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>>34080195
Dude they stole those guns from the guards after they took over the ship.
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>>34083123
He's saying that there are Glock clones, disproving the other anon's statement of only CZ are being cloned.
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>>34080218>>34080206


also HK p7
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>>34082125
I've got a Baby Desert Eagle III and a Glock 30 because of the show. I can't find any new P99 full size 9mm's though.
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>>34082972
90's Sunrise was surprisingly good at small details, even with firearms.
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>>34079830
They were Thales F90s, not AUGs.
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>letting fuc bois like viscious into the syndicate

i weep for the future.
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>>34084107

Always thought it was weird that Gundam X had real-life small arms when the rest of the series goes for generic sci-fi pistols and assault rifles.

Not that I mind. It was cool seeing the doc break out a Hi-Power and learn that a rebuilding army that is manufacturing state-of-the-art mecha built for space psychics is still using the G3.
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>>34084344
Perhaps you could explain it as Gundam X being a post-apocalyptic setting, and thus the people in it wouldn't be using anything "futuristic".
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>>34078145

Been thinking about getting one of these in .45ACP. Any /k/omrades here can tell me how it shoots/feels?
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>>34084474
You really feel the weight.
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>>34080128
see>>34080714

electronic =/= computerized.
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>>34084490
You're gonna carry it though.
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>>34081235
wait seriously? didn't the trailer say their purpose on that planet was to reproduce and start a civilization or am I retarded?
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>>34084474
>>34084490
>>34084741
>bang.
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>tfw can't find a railless 941 anywhere

This is bullshit
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>>34078838
and only two characters in the series use a revolver, sucks man
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>>34078093

i'm calling it now 3-d printed guns of every kind are in our future

https://phys.org/news/2014-06-scientists-carbon-nanotubes-high-speed-gun.html
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>>34079640
love this stuff

they really did their work in the series
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>>34080983
The only issue it adds is a small amount of heat.

Easy to solve if done right.
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>>34084969
It is. There wasn't a gay couple that I saw in the movie, and there were 2 interracial couples, but 2 white couples too.
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>>34082495
Bebop is distinctly western, but, more than anything, is unique. Mix the class of Oceans Eleven, and any number of westerns and mob movies in there, add in some sci-fi, and you have Cowboy Bebop.

It is a genre unto itself, and that's the best way I can describe it.

I watched it before I really got into anime, then started watching some others that have some similarities. It's what got me into anime, really.
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>>34077914


Guns reached their peak already, coming up with anything beyond that is reinventing the wheel. The real question is what kind of ammo will they be using, that's where all the untapped ideas lay.
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>>34085895

I don't really know what to watch after Cowboy Bebop to be honest, and it's disappointing. I don't watch much, if any anime, but Cowboy Bebop was definitely worth it.
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>>34085230
you're not looking hard enough, I just saw 4 on gunbroker
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I assume military weapons will have all sorts of sensors and computers and shit on them. Also at some point robots will do all the fighting anyway.
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>>34086085
Have you watched Trigun? It's very much a space western.

But if you're looking for something as good as Cowboy Bebop in any type of media, the list is extremely short.
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>>34079990
exactly. I'm not Jericho unless it's a 941F with that rollmark. None of this "Baby Eagle" nonsense.
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>>34086131
They're no longer being imported by Magnum Research under the Babby Desert Eagle name.

Now they just say "Israel Weapon Industries" instead of "Israel Military Industries" on the slide.
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>>34084076
>rail
>new P99
I bet your Glock 30 has a rail on it too. Rail-less Jerichos and Ski-Hump P99s have top tier aesthetics. It's a shame they're pretty hard to find in decent shape these days.
>>34086131
>>34086131
I wish my rail-less Jericho was imported by KBI so it would say "Jericho 941" on the side instead of "Desert Eagle Pistol" but the fact that Spike's grips are basically non-existent made me realize I couldn't get 100% accuracy anyway.
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>>34086157
rad, I can go with that. Thanks for the info
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>>34086368
wait like 3 years until I get a Jericho, I'll 3d print some grips and put em on Etsy or something
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>>34086119
Can confirm, Trigun is pretty rad. This anon knows what's good.
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>>34077914
yes. Until we miniaturize and ruggedize laser firing pins, and solenoidal trigger groups, and then also create viable long life long storage batteries, we will probably be using the same guns for a long, long time.

"we" could probably do this soon if there was demand for it, but there is not, not to say if it was mass produced it would not be consumed if on an even footing for cost, however there are hurdles to that.
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>>34086119
>>34086417
I would love to own Vash's revolver
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>>34077914
Honestly, more or less as in most aspects will be familiar.
Exact same models? Probably.


People seem to forget the things firearms do is actually very simple and the vast majority of it was already figured out 100 years ago. They're pretty much just modified engines. It's only the details, materials, and what how we put all the bits together that's changed.

The same goes for ammunition. For the most part, nearly every combination of bullet weight and charge have been experimented with already at some point ever since reloading was possible. It's just kinda funny when you hear "some agency is trying to develop a new round to do xyz" when it's probably already been done before. Yeah you can open up some possibilities when you develop new powders and bullets but if there's a big book of all the loadings done you can pretty much pick something very very close to what you want.
As for energy weapons, there would need to be an enormous jump from what we have now to get them to work. You wouldn't even be able to run one by plugging it into a home outlet without some form of storage. If anything we'll see the caseless ammo nut be cracked before energy weapons or personal rail/gauss rifles.
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>>34086085
Welcome to the NHK if you wanna feel bad.
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>>34082495

Have you ever seen Firefly? Imagine that but different and a cartoon.
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>>34077914
>ak-47 still in use
yeah thats pretty reasonable op
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>>34078237
>he thinks infantry will EVER be given kinetic weapons going anywhere near these speeds
holy kek
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>>34086085
For something similar to Cowboy Bebop in terms of noir, you might try Baccano! Just make sure that you are fine with non-linear storytelling.
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>>34086368
Yup, it's a gen4. I'd rather have it new than 100% accurate. I can find new P99's in 40 S&W, but none in 9mm.
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>>34079140

Imagine the devastation. Square inches of the planet rendered uninhabitable.
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>>34079990
Its like you don't even want to See You Later Space Cowboy.
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>>34080785
I can see flechette rifles like the AAI replacing the AR platform for sheer penetration. Energy weapons are scifi bullshit outside of vehicle mounted weapons and caseless ammo will always be impractical because of heat issues.
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>>34087664
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>>34081518
You just went full retard. Never go full retard.
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>>34088987
Why flechette?
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>>34088470
You're about as likely to find a new P99 as you are a used gen 1 P99 most of the time, so I would just pick whichever comes up first unless you care about the rail or extended mag release paddle.
It's a good gun either way, but new P99s are pretty fucking hard to come by since Walther seems to barely make any. Even though the new P99 looks worse in my opinion, the rail is nice if you need it and the extended mag release is fantastic.
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>>34083265
no they're nigger niggers because im totally not a white piece of shit
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>>34091002
I've found a shop that has some on order nearby, but they don't have any idea when the order will be fulfilled. It sounds like they make one short run of them every year or something and then there's no more until next year. I've considered just getting the 40, but that seems too far from the anime for my taste. I don't have anything that shoots 40 though and I've been looking for an excuse to get one, then I'll have all the common semiauto pistol calibers covered.
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