Jeebus. $400 ARs. You can buy an AR for cheaper than a quality

>>34073213
Why is this surprising again?
>inb4 I self identify as an AR, and AR is amazing like me, so rightly so it should cost a lot of money

>>34073213
Shit man, that's cheaper than a lot of modern pistols' MSRP.

its because no one wants them, everyone already panic bought during the election and no one wants any more budget ARs.

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Economies of scale are a hell of a thing. Milsurp used to be cheap because it was made by the tens of millions... but the World Wars were a long time ago, and they aren't making those rifles at scale anymore. ARs are mass produced, and were specifically designed to be cheap to produce, so it's not surprising they'd eventually get cheap.

>>34073213
We are going to hit $300 ARs pretty fast. After that the market is going to be collapsed. I'd buy another rifle for that much though. I might buy 2.

Also, reminder that $8 per 50 9mm is coming really fast.

>>34073213
I am glad i didn't buy an AR when Obama was president. I am going to buy an AR soon i am looking at a Ruger ar for 500

>>34073267
That or all these companies built thousands and thousands of guns expecting panic purchases... Then she lost the election and the rush wasn't what they expected so they are left with a ton of extra rifles they need to sell off.

>>34073267

I mean, I understand that. It's still shocking to see how low they're going. I wonder how long it's gonna be before we start seeing waves of bankruptcies.

>>34073284

If I was a manufacturer I'd be getting out now desu. I don't know what else I'd do, but making ARs isn't gonna be profitable for much longer and that's not likely to change in the near future.

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>get urge years ago for 9mm colt pattern AR SBR with slidefire stock
>finally cobbled together all the parts for almost a grand
>dozens of companies start releasing 9mm AR parts, dropping prices like crazy
>mfw

>>34073299
bullpups are the future.

>>34073213
I'd rather pay the extra $200 and get an m&p15 over a dpms.

>>34073213
>DPMS

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>>34073213
the one primary arms sells is better though same price
at least i dont like that foreguard in op pic, everything else seems the same.

>>34073325

Except for the part where they aren't that is.

>>34073213
I'm surprised it has a dust cover for that price.

>>34073360
oh wait theyre 100 more never mind.

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>>34073267
>its because no one wants them, everyone already panic bought during the election and no one wants any more budget ARs.
>mfw resigned self to not having an AR before Hillary ruined everything because I'm a poorfag
>mfw somehow the crazy orange troll won
>mfw ARs are literally cheaper than dirt now

>palmetto state armory
>129.99 psa blem ar15 lower
>149.99 ptac blem ar15 freedom upper w/ bcg & ch
>free shipping and handling
you see this one every once in a while. especially on their black friday shit. good luck with that "blem" and "freedom" shit though. almost tempting enough to let them take my credit card info.

>>34073377

Don't forget to send a thank you letter to Hillary for the cheap ARs.

>>34073379

I have a blem lower from them, has a tiny little scratch.

>>34073369
I still want it

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>>34073377
Kys fag

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>>34073408
Why would I do that I can afford an AR now

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>>34073213
That same AR is on sale for $1300 in New Zealand only with the "thumbhole" stock from pic related.

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>>34073425
And people say guns cause suicide.

>>34073457
is 1300 NZ dollars equivalent to 400 USD?

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>>34073425
>being so poor you couldn't buy one before
As I said kys

>>34073267
>>34073296
Both of you are correct

>>34073379
PSA/PTAC blem stuff is just fine. If you just need basic AR then it isn't a bad choice.

>>34073470
No I think it's like 900 or something now, it's fucking crazy. The one bullshit law that leached its way over from Australia means that ARs have to have fucked up stocks and barrels, and now all the mall ninjas aren't subsidising me.

It's like $2000 (1500usd) for a "New Zealandified" bushmaster over here.

>>34073284
Why would the cheap 9mm come?
People are shooting glocks now more than ever

>>34073518
>The one bullshit law that leached its way over from Australia means that ARs have to have fucked up stocks and barrels
wut? How could that come from Australia when we can't even bloody have ARs?

>>34073457
NZ cucked guns > US cucked guns

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>>34073305
I know that feel

>spent 800 dollars on what is now a budget-tier AR back in September 2016, absolutely certain Hilary would win
>bought 8 30 Rd mags because I figured those would be first to go
>Mfw I'm a colossal poorfag that had a hard time affording all this

>>34073213
Is there any problem with these rifles? Do they run well?

so as someone who just moved back home and is about to start a new job (mfw best salary I've ever had and I get to save 90 percent of it by living with momma) what kind of AR should I get.

Nothing special, just economical and reliable. Help me shop /k/

>>34073531
Because the bleeding heart cunts in Auckland who have never seen a gun and don't even know what our gun laws are think its the same as Australia and when they hear otherwise the go "SHUT IT DOWN!! NO FUN ALLOWED IN THIS COUNTRY!!".

They always use you cunts on the news because "muh lower crime rate then the states".

>>34073213
desu i have a couple good ARs but im really tempted to buy one of these basic bitch models just to have something I can toss around and ngaf, loan to friends, absolutely neglect to clean and see how far it goes, etc.

>>34073606
But it's still not an Australian law...

>>34073594
They aren't "mil-spec" but they will work perfectly fine even if you upgrade them with mil-spec parts.

>>34073613
Yea but your not helping things. Hell I'll make a deal, you can kill every single unpatriotic kiwi living over there if you can change our gun laws to be like the states (only the good states).

>>34073629
How the fuck am I supposed to change your country's laws, when we can't even change our own?

>>34073284

>cheap ammo
>anytime in the future

>>34073379
I bought a blemished lower, and a blemished premium rifle kit from them a while back
I couldn't find a scratch on the lower, and the upper had a tiny scratch, and a scratched charging handle.

>>34073379
Blemish means a blemish on the finish, nothing functionally wrong. I took a fucking microscope to my blemish PSA lower in 2014 to see why it was marked down. I still don't know why it was marked as a blemish. Paid 140 for a complete lower with magpul shit and have never looked back.

Because all that was so cheap, I spent 650 on a BCM upper. Ez pz 800 dollar midrange entry AR

I fucking cry..... in my country cheapest ARs are about 1200 euros and over. Id like to have 400 euros gun for abuse =)

>>34073640
By nuking Auckland and about 2/3 of Wellington.

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>>34073488

>>34073379
I got a blem lower.
Literally neither myself nor the ffl could find anything wrong than a slight tone difference in the blueing in one small area

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>>34073379
Right no PSA has PSA-10s for 699.99

A fucking 18" Semi Auto 308 Win for 700 bucks.

God Bless America

>>34073659
But America blocked us from getting nukes back in the 50s, then we signed and ratified the Non-Proliferation Treaty in the 60s.

>>34073676
STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF!!

We got bad gun laws too.

>>34073688
>We got bad gun laws too.
Not as bad as us... ;_;

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>tfw want to buy a cheap AR
>don't want to deal with the base armory
>all my friends with their own houses are thousands of miles away
>no gun friendly storage units near me

>>34073695
I'm trying to think of something that New Zealand has worse off then you guys but I can't. Your country really is shittier in every way.

>>34073711
We have better pavlova. :^)

>>34073305
>>34073577
Don't blame yourselves, literally no one expected Trump to win

>>34073710
your only other choice is an off base storage facility. that will cost $100 a month for a small space.

its really not worth getting one until you either get married and move off base or ETS.

My dad kept my guns while I was in, and the just fucking sat in his closet.

They made millions and millions thinking Hillary would win and set off a panic buying spree for the ages. Instead we all get ARs at rock bottom prices.

>>34073577

I spent at least $250 on mags alone prior to election. The prices haven't dropped dramatically enough, but I still am glad I bought them, along with the 4k rounds of ammo along with them. At the very least, those are items that you can always use in the future so I'm only temporarily broke.

>>34073732
PSA made thousands of AR and AK lowers in advance, thinking that an assault weapons production ban was going to go into effect.

All those lowers are taking up warehouse space, and no ban will go into effect for the next 4 years guaranteed.

>>34073710
Non military person here, can't you like, request more range time and use their ARs?

>>34073733
>$250 on mags alone prior to election.
I hope you bought at least 25 of them for that price.

>>34073213
It's basic economics. There is now lower demand and a high supply side turnout from the election scare, plus companies like PSA flooding the market. This has created a market surplus, so now we have returned to a buyers market, and sellers have to lower their prices in order to remove surplus. Glorious days ahead

>>34073723
Do they teach you in school that you cunts invented that? They did that with lamingtons here but I know that's bullshit, pavlova on the other hand was over here. But you can't really have a better pav, it's just a fucking merengue you can only get it so good.

>>34073747
ahaha
no

>>34073654
>I still don't know why it was marked as a blemish.
It was probably a return or a floor/show model.

>>34073747
Lol dude he's not Delta

>>34073747
No dude I'm a POG.
>>34073730
I've got 3 more years, and yeah I'm not marrying a dependa anytime soon.

>>34073748

At least 10 G3 PMAGs, 10 ETS 33rd, 5 ETS 21rd, 4 LR308 PMAGs, 6 Magpul GL9 27rd, and 6 Magpul GL9 21rd, at least. I forgot what I had. I'm sure I paid a little more than $250, probably closer to $300 if not more. Most of them were on sale. I just bought the ones I know I'd be suffering from if there was a cap limit in the future.

>>34073754
>Do they teach you in school that you cunts invented that?
I don't recall ever hearing about it, or any other food history, in school. Might've been different if I'd done Home Ec. or something, I dunno.

Personally, I don't really like it at all. I have a pretty wild sweet tooth, and love my lamingtons, especially with jam and cream, but I can't stand anything that's just sugar based like that, or macarons.

I once tried Marshmallow Creme, the American spread, because it was at some local supermarket I went to, but it was fucking awful.

>>34073577

>tfw I bought 12 ruger ar556s @ 579$ each

At least the kids, nieces and nephews will have sweet ass Christmases when they hit 13.

>>34073802
>Marshmallow Creme, the American spread
>south
>american

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>>34073802
Lets laugh at yank food.

>>34073655
The same
1300 minimum forn an AR capped with 3+1 mags and about 2 euros the round of .300 AAC. 800 euros for an .22lr AR
We need to perish under Islam, inshallah.

>>34073812
According to Wikipedia, it's from New England.

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>>34073818
Btw, this shit is your biggest stereotype.

>>34073377
I thought she'd win for sure. I'm glad I had second thoughts about ordering cases of pmags to sell for profit.

>>34073213
Now there is no reason not to own a rifle. Checkmate poorfags.

>>34073840
I don't get the whole poorfag thing, it's like someone complaining about being fat. Fucking do something about it. Fuck I'm pretty fucking poorfag but I can still afford some basic guns.

>>34073729
>>34073733
>>34073808
>not investing into reloading equipment/powders instead

How much would ARs have been at this point in time had The Bitch won the election?

t. Recently bought a Ruger AR556 for $490

>>34073886
Two thousand plus stamp plust tip

>>34073886
Probably the same price going into the election since Republican's control both houses.

>>34073213
>You can buy an AR for cheaper than a quality milsurp now.

More like milsurp is overpriced because of fudds and boomers.

>>34073457

That stock is kinda cool

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>>34073672
>PSA has PSA-10s for 699.99

>>34073876

>Implying I dont cast my own boolets and reload already.

>>34073905
Fuck you. If I want something normal then I have to suck some black market cock or spend days in the workshop to make a stock that will only get confiscated. It's no longer cool when cool is all you can get.

>>34073213

LTT : my g42 for this ar. Brand new unfired g42

Must be in texas

>>34073767
>POG
So I see this a lot, I know what it stands for, but what type of employment do people usually mean when they say it?

Administrative work?

>>34073271
Holo would not support a fat idiot republican like Trump

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>hate the AR platform
>dislike the AK platform
>mfw

>>34073379
Using any gun for a while will blemish it, even if you baby it. If you actually shoot your guns, you'll have to set them down on a table, clean them, and transport them, which will inevitably cause scratches. Buying a blemished gun saves a ton of money since a perfectly finished gun will have little dings in a couple months at most.

>>34073991
>If you actually shoot your guns, you'll have to set them down on a table, clean them, and transport them, which will inevitably cause scratches.
IKTF, bought a pristine (on the outside) used golden boy in .22 (pretty sure the fag either set it on a bed of pillows everywhere or just replaced the receiver cover before selling, bore was dirty as fuck) after a few months I'd put a scratch on the receiver and a little dent in the wood on the stock

Absolutely sickening. As an owner of three $2.2k+ premium Assault Rifle 15's I am disgusted that the market is being flooded with trash for plebians. At this point I can only hope for a prolonged cataclysmic nuclear winter so that these and the fuds guns disentigrate like the rust buckets they are and only the patrician caste remains armed with our salt bath nitrided goodies.

The lowest I've spent on an Assault Rifle is 1k+mods and that was a Springfield Saint just to match my superior XD with GRIP ZONE

Fucking plebs and niggers..

>>34074012

>t. 90% of the NRA

>>34074012
I think you underestimate the power of cosmoline.

>>34073975
>people
>other (than)
>grunts
literally everyone in the military that isn't combat arms.

>>34073886

Probably no more than 10-20% bump over pre-election prices at this point. She would have a hell of time actually implementing her plans.

>>34073975
Well you already know it means People Other than Grunts, so literally anyone not in a combat arms job would be a POG. Even then infantry will still call anyone not infantry (other combat jobs) POGs. Administrative would be the ultimate POGs according to grunts though

>>34073299
>making ARs isn't gonna be profitable for much longer and that's not likely to change in the near future.
It's the only thing people will want because they're so cheap to begin with. In 20 years it will be the ONLY semi auto rifle around aside from a handful of $2000+ options for hipsters and collectors.

>>34074094

I suppose. Though there's also the possibility of a wave of bankruptcies in manufacturing, followed by the remaining companies pushing their prices back up.

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>>34074094
Ruger would like a word with you.

>>34073213
Here is a question for you /k/. Are prices for higher end ARs also depressed by a glut on the market?

I'd be interested in an AR with really solid core-construction and the ability to accept after-market accessories without having to replace parts. I don't need a mess of accessories to begin with, I'd like to feel it out and add what I want as I go. I should add that I live in SC and could head over to PSA to pick one up from the factory.

>>34074137
We'll see if it's still a thing in 20 years.

>>34073922
Send them over to burgerstan so we can make them mainstream, Then you can pretend like your stock is "normal"
Seriously tho I would love that stock with a beat up wooden foregrip and A1 upper.

>>34074010
Yeah it sucks, but I lump weapons, tools, vehicles, and equipment into the same broad category of "utility. All of the aforementioned can be coddled and put on display never to see use, but ultimately their purpose is to be used and use causes wear. Better to accept that you'll get more value and enjoyment out of something you know will be subject to wear and tear and depreciation than let it sit there and be pretty.

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>>34074201
It doesn't help that everything I buy is wood/metal and not polymer, but yeah I'm okay with things getting scratched or whatever. At the end of the day I'll probably never be selling my guns, so there's no real reason to get upset about a few dings

>>34073213
When will the railed gas block meme die

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>>34073980
This is surely the end of Drumpf! No way he could ever recover after this!

>>34074162
I live in SC too...check Armslist. SC is more affected by the AR surplus than probably any other state, people can't give ARs away on Armslist. You can probably definitely get a Gucci AR for a decent price used, but who cares you can get the same thing from PSA minus a rollmark and spend the rest on ammo/gear

>>34074012
Your Gucci ARs shouldn't have been an investment anyway you fucking retard. Learn how to read markets chump

>>34073425

You can thank President Trump

>>34074267
>meow meow meow
Guns are consumable goods and not ver an investment, really. The point is to look good during the apocalypse and have one or three superior aesthetic main weaps that can bring you through hell and back while the plebs are rounded up in Walmart concentration camps where all the fat fucks who buy cheap guns belong.

Never an investment* guns are so gay and for insecure manchildren nowadays so I might as well thrash my LWRC just to see what it can take and because I would feel bad selling a slightly blemished rifle

Psychological weapons are more effective that's why so many of you channel your chi into toxic websites like this making violent revolution near impossible

>>34074461
No. there are various markets within the firearms community and some markets are good for investing like older SWs, Colt's, Brownings, Class III, etc...these markets appreciate in value because they're closed markets. Milsurp is getting there and some milsurp has always been there

>>34074475
WTF are you babbling on about dude? You need help bud

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>>34073980
Holo would totally support a businessman with a wolfgirl sidekick.

We're in a cheap AR bubble. It's not going to last forever. I'd say we've got about a year. There will be manufacturers who get out of the AR market, and others will cut back on production. The panic-era glut will be soaked up, and prices will rise. So buy 'em now - if there's any lesson we've learned from the $60 Mosin, it's that low price bubbles don't last forever.

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>>34073379
Bought a blem carry handle from them a couple months ago. It has a small ding on the base, which doesnt affect its mating to a rail or its sight function.

DESU I was gonna beat the hell out of it anyway rather than just leave it in my safe, I'll take the $25 discount for that tiny bit of chipped paint that would have inevitably happened anyway.

>>34074565
>We're in a cheap AR bubble
Wrong. We were in a regular market bubble with ARs but Trump's presidency popped it and now the bottom is falling out of the market, getting lower and lower every few weeks. AR mfgs/suppliers are completely overloaded on surplus, and they're still cranking them out. Quote me now. AR prices will NEVER return close to what they were short of legislation that bans/restricts then being mfg. That won't happen until a minimum of 2021, if a Dem gets in. Market comprehension takes some experience to understand the Dynamics, so don't just spout hearsay or shit you have no clue about.

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>>34074596
>2021
Try 2025 at minimum.

>>34073379
Oh, I also bought a "blem" cheapo freedom upper from them on sale for 159.99 shipped... the "blemish" was a small white line from someone having accidentally rubbed their fingernail on the side of the barrel. It came off easily with a wet cloth, and I tried doing the same thing with my own fingernail on a different part of the barrel... visually it was identical, and came off just as easily.

Here is hoping we see the same price drops here in Canada

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A lot more companies started making ARs, there's a huge market of parts and demand for it, we've overcome even the most serious threats of AR-15 bans/AWBs (late 2012-early 2013 never forget), a ton of semi auto sporters that could compete with the AR have unfortunately been banned from import, most remaining competitors are far more expensive. They're only gonna get cheaper, should we stay on the same track.

>>34074565
>manufacturers who get out of the AR market
And go into what exactly? Another design?

>>34073213
How's the quality though? I would assume it's made out of the most basic parts available, and basically a waste of money. Doubt it's even got a chromed barrel.

>>34074606
I'm just going with worse case scenario. Even winning the house/Senate mid term won't be enough to leverage legislation. But regardless 4-8 more years of this and we'll be buying ARs for old Mosin prices and Mosins for old AR prices. Crazy how quickly things change

>>34074565
I think this is pretty obvious to everyone here at this point. If you don't have an AR yet, go grab the $400 out of your account and snap one of these things up. We're going to be sitting here in five years full of threads of people crying that they didn't get them when they were cheap, just like we do with SKSs, PSLs, and what else have you.

I'm still sore about the PSL price hike. $600 for an autonugget was a steal.

>>34074012
Wait until Hi-point comes out with a $300 5.56 platform.

>>34074628
I don't know about DPMS but PSA is totally fine and though made of basic bitch parts, they will operate perfectly fine.

Chrome lining costs you accuracy anyway.

>>34074644
The difference is ARs aren't a closed or heavily regulated market like foreign imports. There will be continued manufacturing even with surplus. Comparing the AR market with milsurp is like comparing apples to oranges.

>>34073905
I unironically agree. I also like the HERA Arms CQR furniture but nobody seems to share that opinion.

>>34074665
HERA furniture is undeniably sexy but also undeniably badly made.

>>34073213
my friend had one of those and the first day we went out shooting he dumped a couple mags through it at a sign and then leaned it up against his truck and the barrel warped

This is just like McDonalds guns and will lead more into an Idiocracy. Have fun investing in cheap metal and molecularly unstable plastic. Guns are consumables like burgers.

>>34074669
I would say not so much badly made as badly priced. If it was chink shit priced to match its quality it would be fine.

>>34074669
Is it really? Thats a shame to hear, I was planning a micro AR build that used that foregrip. I may still go for it though.

>>34074676
I mean on Armslist you can get PSA for about this same price and it's all milspec, some models have the FN chronium barrels, just missing a fancy rollmark or some Dillo dust. I like Gucci ARs too but watching you guys get all butthurt because your gun resale value is about to depreciate by 60% is kind of funny

>>34074656
I understand what you're saying, but there's no way they'll stay this cheap. We're seeing prices that totally discount tooling investments and possibly even labor. While we're not going to see drying-up-surp price increases, we can't have $350-400 ARs forever. They'll be back to $499 on sale within three years, if that. I believe the assumption that it has to do with liquidating excessive, unnecessary product stockpiles may be at least partially right.

>>34074616
Lol we wont. Prices will go up. And they'll remain restricted.

>you will never have a cheap innawoods AR.

>>34074670
I'm sure you are not a liar and this story totally happened because it's not like they use similar steel to everyone else and it's literally impossible for it to bend after 'a few mags'

You and your 'buddy' are dipshits.

>>34073213
>DPMS

Never

>>34073213
Is a $400 AR going to be quality, though?

Gunsmithing costs add up

>>34073886
They'd be banned along with all other guns.

>>34074737
Ignore DPMS
Acquire PSA "blemished" parts

Same price, better parts. Half the time you'll never even find the scratch.

>>34074732
Do you actually have a legitimate complaint about them with proofs or are you just shitposting?

>>34074714
That and there is 0 demand. Half the AR market was made up of normies who just wanted an AR because people said they shouldn't have them. I personally think prices will continue to plummit, and Gucci ARs will start dropping in price too if manufactures want to stay in business. Yes there is a large surplus that is dictating the price drop, but if demand continues to slump then the surplus will continue to build, and the prices will have to continue to drop to get rid of them. PSA has been doing a sale all month here in SC like $750 for an AR/AK which is fucking insane lol

>>34074737

If you want a "quality" gun then you're going to pay more. If you want a cheap gun to bury for the antifa revolution/Democratic resurgence/gifting to a nogunz then a $400 AR will work well enough.

>>34074627
>And go into what exactly? Another design?
Yup. People forget that ARs being super-popular is a relatively new phenomenon. One of the reasons why the AWB was able to pass in 1994 is that "assault weapons" just weren't that popular back then, so banning them wasn't seen as that big an inconvenience by a lot of people. The money back then was in making midrange "fudd guns", and that's still a lucrative market with a lot of cash in it.

Note that I'm not claiming that ARs won't remain popular or that they'll ever go back to what they cost when the AWB was passed. What I'm saying is that after a year or so, they'll start a slow rise until they're about on parity with the Mini-14 at $800-ish. The low-end manufacturers will exit the AR market, and what's left will be both more expensive and higher quality.

>>34074596
>>34074622
Keep telling yourselves that. This place never runs out of threads moaning about how awful it is that milsurps are expensive now and how unfair it is that Mosins aren't $60 anymore. Cheap price bubbles don't last forever - that's just not how economics works. If there are no profits to be made doing something, companies will stop doing it. Remember back around 2009 when literally everybody in the computer business was making cheapie netbooks? Most of them stopped doing it after a couple of years because they just couldn't make the economics of it work. A saturated market that's only supporting "race to the bottom" prices has no real profits in it. Companies will start leaving that market once they figure that out, which will lead prices to start rising.

>>34074744
This

If Hdawg was in the White House with a Dem congress, we would be going through the implementation of AWB2.0 right now.

I'm not /pol/ or even really a republican, but this decided my vote. She was openly calling for it on the campaign trail.

>>34074757
You can get milspec PSAs for 4-500. You're only paying for a rollmark after a certain price point

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>>34073922
>>34073457
I don't get what makes it cucked

Like, I get it, it's state mandated. But it looks like it would work the same as any stock.

Is it literally 'skeery shoulder thing that goes up'?

>>34074764

She wouldn't have a Dem House, she might have pulled a Dem Senate, but that's not good enough. That was about 75% of my decision too. I don't care much for Trump beyond his 2A stances, but I'd rather keep my rights thanks.

I'm hoping that the Dems will learn a lesson, and I'm considering making a presentation for the local Dems to see if I can change a few minds, but I suspect that it's a waste in general.

>>34074761
The difference with Mosins or milsurp as I stated early is they're closed markets, meaning they can't make new inventory. ARs are still being mfg on top of surplus and demand is plummeting. You also have private sales on Armslist which you can find the best deals IMO. It's not a cheap price bubble, it's the bottoming out of the AR market after popping the bubble we've been in since Sandy Hook. Of course the prices will rise again, but no one can say how low the market will go, or how long until a reversal in the trend. I'd bet all the way until a D president and fear of gun legislation

t. Lib arts faggot who's been shooting since 2000

>>34074784

My first comment on that sub-thread, but I don't mind the look personally. On the other hand being forced to have that would be annoying.

>>34074799

It'll be interesting to see if the Dems will continue to push the failed anti-gun agenda. I see a fair number of reports saying that anti-gun sentiment is falling, if they are true I wonder how long the Dems will keep their heads in the sand.

>>34074256
What exactly makes for a Gucci AR? The variations seem endless.

>>34074761
>i have literally no idea what caused milsurp prices to rise nor do i understand basic economics
ARs will continue to be cheap until there is either a major drop in supply or a major increase in demand.

The latter wont happen until theres a chance of a ban, so at least four years. The former wont happen unless a huge number of AR manufacturers die off. Even then, the larger manufacturers may pick up the slack.

AR prices will stay where they are or lower for years because the major manufacturers were stocking up for years worth of panic buying.

>>34074814
Dude no matter what happens far leftists are becoming 2A friendly. Those of us who have been here fighting tooth and nail since Sandy Vag(the dark days) are to thank for that so good on u boys for never giving an inch. But yah watching leftist fear power consolidation because their brand of tyranny wasn't elected is pretty funny. I'm almost certain the bulk of those Antifa and Jon Brown gun club fuckers would have been yapping about and supporting AWB legislation had HRC won, yet now here they are like snakes in the grass slithering to our side of the 2A. Can't even make that shit up

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>>34073213
congrats you bought a cheaply built AR from DPMS
don't save your money and by the decent option go for the crappy think

>>34074838
Non-standard recievers for one
Eloquent flow of aesthetics
Superior coatings
Reliability
Pistons
Love

>>34074838
Just high dollar companies like DD, Larue, etc...If you have a good barrel and the rest of the receiver is milspec tolerances, should be fine

>>34074847

Yep. It'd be interesting to see, if the antifa's won, what they would do about gun laws.

I have a nogunz lefty friend who's mentioned that he wants to come over and shoot, but he's always busy, so it keeps getting put off. I'm hoping I can convert him into hasgunz.

>>34074861
What do non-standard receivers get you?

>>34074838
An expensive rollmark and one or two useful features like a high quality barrel and trigger.

>>34074851

I didn't buy anything. I have a PSA that I built a few years ago and a couple lowers that I got after the election because my AG is a fucktard. I have no plans to buy another AR ATM.

I'm just commenting on the plunging prices. I thought I got an amazing deal a few years back when I built mine for about $600.

>>34074880
They look cool and some are more robust or ambidextrous

Remember the first rule is to always look cool

>>34074840
>>i have literally no idea what caused milsurp prices to rise nor do i understand basic economics
>ARs will continue to be cheap until there is either a major drop in supply or a major increase in demand.

Supply will drop as manufacturers leave the AR market because there aren't any profits to be made in it. Expect this to start happening very, very soon.

>>34074888
>>34074880
>Justifying why he spent $2k on a receiver that looks like a Shark's head

>>34074913
Of course I want to stand out from the McDonalds crowd with their milspec stuff *shudder* then I can fuck their bitches once they see how much cooler I am especially with all my Mako accessories

>>34074913
>implying you need justification other than it looks like a shark's head

>>34074944
>implying you couldn't have one milled for cheaper yourself

>>34073594
No,
DPMS is a fine rifle.
A great base to build your semi custom AR from.

>>34074931
Kek I like u Anon no homo. Full homo
>>34074944
>Implying the implications of being implied ...Sources

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>>34073213
Not only DPMS

>>34074982
>Carbine length

No thank you

>>34074982
Pretty sure Ruger has some going for 4-500 too. PSA has been doing these wicked sales here every month, like 2 months ago they had AR/SW Shield for like 699

>>34074892
>Supply will drop as manufacturers leave the AR market
Theres already a huge surplus. Even if they leave itll be years before supply starts to dry up.

>>34073886
2,000 dollars plus jizya

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>>34075003
>>34074982
Yup, Ruger too

>>34074256
WA state here, we too know that feeling. Of course it was like this pre election. It's always worth a chuckle to see people trying to dump PSA builds for $600 around here.

>>34074847
>Dude no matter what happens far leftists are becoming 2A friendly.
Leftists have no prionciples, only ideology. They are currently "friendly" to the Second Amendment only because they lost an election and are in a panic. They'll reverse that as soon as they have power again. It's the same as their stance on the First Amendment. Fifty years ago they were burning shit and smashing windows in Berkeley in favor of free speech. Now they burn shit and smash windows in Berkeley because they're against free speech. The point is that if you're expecting them to have solid principles that they'll apply universally, even to people who disagree with them, then you're either a shill or a damn fool.

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>>34073213
>>34075046
>>34074982
>>34075003
Holy shit S&W too

>>34073520
>Why would the cheap 9mm come?
>People are shooting glocks now more than ever
You answered your own question anon.

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>>34074814
>My first comment on that sub-thread, but I don't mind the look personally. On the other hand being forced to have that would be annoying

No i mean, i understand that. But I mean I don't see what the lawmakers were trying to accomplish with it

I mean I know antis are arbitrary and dumb, this seems even more arbitrary than usual though

Like 'I saw it on the cover of my sons Cawadoody so it must be an evil military only stock that makes it easier to murder civilians'

It'd be like if red dots with a round housing were banned but square housings were acceptable

>>34075075
Out of all of these I'd still take the PSA blemished kits first.

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>>34073213
Found it for even cheaper....

>>34073213

The market will contract as everyone who just wanted any old AR already has one. You'll see a shift toward more premium offerings. Honestly, I'm done with my 10lb $2000 quad rail monstrosity and find myself shooting my old iron sight Colt and Bushmaster more than ever.

>>34075098
Basic is beautiful.

>>34075098
I'll be getting a PSA kits just to have the AR in the safe and tick that checkbox. I don't like ARs much and I don't need one because I don't shoot ranked 2-gun, I do local matches which I plan to shoot an M10X for. However, since I wouldn't bother saving up for an AR, I'll get one of these, since it's just barely within my upper range of "I am doing well this month and if I want it I can just buy it with no consideration" spending for me.

>>34075098

OP here, I'm gonna work on building up 3 ARs to specific PoUs personally. But I don't have any real interest in pre-builts ATM.

>>34075096
that Adams Arms gas piston AR has really caught my eye, that's a gas piston AR for basically $435 because the vortex strikefire is a $200 optic, probably the same red dot i'd end up putting on it anyway.

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>>34074606

>>34074222
when people stop using cheap plastic handguards. Which may take a while since they're so effing cheap. Maybe carbon fiber tubes will get cheap in the future

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>>34073213
DPMS is currently holding a rebate deal, $75 cash back mail in, even for the quality, 324.99 for an Ar.

>>34074012
t. every single "anti-gun" millionaire activist

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>>34073531
>How could that come from Australia when we can't even bloody have ARs?

We can. You just have to use the loopholes available to you.

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I lol every day at the bubbas that lined up outside of fun stores to shell out money hand over hamfist in the panic buys and price gouges of yesteryear.

>>34073379
I'm convinced they sell the blemished stuff as an advertising tactic.

>Hey look these guys have the cheapest.....
>O hey I got mine look guys
>Oh hey me too!

I still see nothing wrong with this. Good marketing tactic.

>>34075328
Tell me more sempai, I'm begging you

>>34073847
>Fucking do something about it.
That can take fucking years to get into a suitable job that pays well. While you're working toward that goal, it's okay to bitch.

>>34075436
Get an armourers licence, manufacture your own guns.

>>34075411
It's not a tactic, they're just marking down shit they can't charge full price for because it's got some minor little fuck up to it that nobody would accept on a brand new gun, like a surface scratch or a ding or something like somebody hamfisted it coming off the mill. It'd be stupid not to do it and I'm surprised more manufacturers dont. Perhaps they eat the man-hours it takes to fix the finish while PSA just marks it down and ships it.

>>34074670
Did your friend read the manual and follow the barrel break-in procedures? Also if you were in a truck why lean a hot barrel against it instead of laying the gun on the tailgate? He deserves it.

>>34074982
>>34075046
>>34075075
>>34075210
This is price collusion I can get behind.

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>>34075371
They were some dark days Anon. We that were here all remember. Let us not forget CTD with their stanag AR mags. Also, I sold all my extra mags I brought home from the military for $20 a pop,and bought a 500 case of Wolf 7.63x39 for like $280. Goddamn can we never go back to those days again

>>34073876

I would have but there's no point if I'm just starting out with firearms. It's much easier to get the smaller components like that than magazines, firearms, etc.

Is Memorial Day or Fourth of July better for sales on Aero, Midway, etc.?

>>34075536
>Did your friend read the manual and follow the barrel break-in procedures?
Literally no firearm manual says anything about break-in procedures. That's just fuddlore.

>>34073299
Wait till the next terror attack or nig riot. They'll fly off the shelves

>>34073360
>>34073369
>>34073406
They are trash. NEVER buy Radical Firearms.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDTILKzoTdy3FOhyfniL0dTRaJCCp6_ZN

>>34073980
>found the autistic weeboo

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>>34073271
>>34073980
>>34074528
Holo is a hippie chick and probably wouldn't support Trump. Revy and Rally, on the other hand, would be totally MAGA. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

>>34075622
That's because you only buy cheap service-grade shit with tolerances looser than your slutty aunt's box. Try buying something that isn't made until you order it.

>>34073284
I got some Tulammo 9mm for $7.67 a box in fucking Walmart the other day. I bought all they had, only 5 boxes though. It had one of the white special price tags on it so I don't know if that means clearance or what.

>>34073729
I did. Bet money on it

The polls were unrepresentative and DNC linked + his turnout was always gonna trounce het

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Could have saved $100
If I wanted after the election to build an M16 a2 clone.

>>34075661
That's funny, I have a radical and it has no problems.

>>34075661
I have one and its a top tier AR compared to others I own

>>34073577
But now you have one. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.

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This is extremely tempting. In what way will I regret this?

>>34073980
>business wolf not supporting business man.
>to shiggy to diggy
Also it's great days we are livin in bros, we can buy ARs for less than $400.

>>34076004
>PTAC
Yes you will

>>34075971
>>34076000
>I shoot a minimal amount of ammunition every time I go to the range, which isn't often, and in pristine conditions
>therefore my gun is as good as guns that get thousands of rounds put through them in a couple days without being cleaned

>>34076021
Are they inaccurate, do they feed poorly, ...?

>>34076004
Just get
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-moe-sl-freedom-rifle-gray-516445900.html

>>34076115
$200 more for midlength and better furniture, I dunno if it matters that much.

>>34076106
Inaccurate

>>34073601
A house you freeloader

>>34076330
Who's saying he doesn't pay his mother rent?

>>34075707
>half indian

Dude she can't even poo in loo

>>34076058
sure bud

>>34074475
>Psychological weapons are more effective that's why so many of you channel your chi into toxic websites like this making violent revolution near impossible

>shut down 4ch
>/pol/ shuts down the world

Sooner the better

>>34073608
>Tfw americans can buy ARs like candy
>tfw I can't even buy anything in 9mm because it's blacklisted as a "war caliber"

Fuck you guys :(

>>34076540
i never understood this spanish latin law.

>>34073729
holy fuck lurk pol you noob

just an fyi if you though clinton was gonna win... please stop drinking the koolaid that MSNBC and CNN has been handing out

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Get the fagpac and stop being a fag.

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>>34075707
>Revy
>support a cheeto
>support anyone
Are you high?

>>34076553
Not spanish, portuguese. It's ridiculous, a fucking 6.5mm is the best you can get, and you have to prove you need it. How do you prove you need a weapon? You must have one of a couple aproved jobs that qualify you for gun ownership (from judge to mayor). Aka, people who are always protected.
Oh, and you wanna be a hunter? Better prepare to pay almost 1 euro per 12g shell AND pay ridiculous taxes. Just don't go hunting and buy meat from the supermarket, where animals don't surfer :^)
Fucking retarded populace desu

>>34073213
Atlantic Firearms has Radical ARs for $399 as well.

>>34073747
>can't you like, request more range time and use their ARs?
Nope.

If you were to enlist or commission you would find that unless you are Tier Over 9000 JSOC operator 95+% of your time is spent not shooting guns.

>>34073975
>Administrative work?
Intel
Cook
Motor Transport
Cavalry Scout
Tanker
Pilot
Water Cleaner
EOD

etc.

Essentially anyone whose MOS isn't 11[x], 18[x], or 03[xx]

>>34074137
Man if the Minis drop in price at the same rate I'll end up with a whole safe full of Mini 14s and 30s. It sucks the 6.8 SPC ones were limited run or I'd have at least one of those too.

>>34076824
EOD is considered POG?
I know it's just a circle jerk for certain people to feel better about their life choices, but how on earth can one of the most dangerous jobs in the world be considered POG?

>>34075328
pretty

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Just got my Nodak Spud upper and lower. I never put together my own AR before. Wish me blessings. I'm gonna make a .....

>>34076012

and all it took was the collapse of the western world, MAGA

we goin back to the wild wild west motherfuckers, cant wait to lynch som injuns

>>34077089
Son, you lynch niggers, injuns are just killed and scalped. The scalps get sold for bounty. Occasionally you rub the scalps with apples to get a few more dollars from the county comptroller.

>>34077089
>and all it took was the collapse of the western world, MAGA

Didn't vote for Trump but I'm starting to get sick of the virtue signalling. This past few months has just been virtue signalling on a global level and actual issues have been drowned out by a cacophony of "Ewww Drumpf" "Americlaps ruining the world" "Trump" this and that with almost no substance. Sprinkle conspiracy theories to flavor.

>>34077046
I think your rifle has autism.

>>34077304
>bangaitty bang.

>>34077046
>blunderbuss 15
anon you don't need 556 to hunt wabbits

>>34073213
I'm an aussie and we can't own any ARs full stop.

and I still wouldn't want the piece of shit.

>>34077304
I like the be the opposite of all those guys that put 20 lbs of add ons on their AR's.

>>34074793
>I'm hoping that the Dems will learn a lesson

Considering everything that's happened since the election, this is unlikely. The DNC is just going further to the left.

The Nebraska Dem party even criticized the DNC for getting involved in the recent Omaha mayoral election, which was supposed to be moderate.

The Dem candidate was supported by Bernie in that race, but the DNC eventually abandoned him when he turned out to be pro-life.

>>34074719
MAD MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX MAX

>live in NY
>can't just buy one of these $400 ARs because noncompliant
>compliant ARs are still >$1000
>individual parts aren't any cheaper either to build off my lowers

ARs are boring anyway at least that's what I tell myself

>>34073213

why would i wantt the hi point of ar's ?

>>34073213
I'm not sure if this is an AK-47 or an AR-15.

I see no carry handle and also no stock made of wood.

I'm unsure what model is this.

>>34073213
Youve been able to build an ar for under 300 for about 5 months now

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>>34073892
>plus tip

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>>34073829
When I lived in Germany I had a really good laugh at "Amerika Woche"

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>>34073986

>>34073520
I'm that poster now, 12 hours later.

The reason is because of volume sales. As economies of scale increase there is more possibilty of cost savings because of the discounts you incur by manufacturing at that level. We are going to hit 8 dollar a box 9mm and when that happens you are going to see a leveling and then a bit of consolidation before prices correct.

>>34073299
Nothing on an AR is that expensive to produce. Maybe the barrels but we are going to reach a point when the barrels start coming down in price.

>>34076957
Because realistically most of the time they can put a plate over it to contain the blast and detonate it.

>>34074166
Of course it will be.

>>34077776
>1 off from quints

Time to an hero

>>34076824
>11[x]
Nope. 1161 here, We're POGs.
03s are the only NON pogs.

>>34077746
>American style snack box
THE ONLY THING WE GET IN A BOX IS PIZZA

>>34077746
>American Woche

That just means American Food I'm presuming? Lol

>>34077746
Also, avoid the Rib Burger. McRibs are pretty good but only about once a year. About as often as they're even available for purchase, lol.

>>34073213
Is this a good one or a 'good' one?

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>>34073520
>>34075091
>demand is growing
>this will lead to low prices
nigger you what

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>>34077786
11x is the Army MOS Identifier for Infantry you jarhead mongrel. Go eat some crayons

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>>340777777

>>34077089
>collapse of the western world

No, son, collapse of the post-modernist coddlebubble. We gonna MAGA back into the Old West, alright, and it's gonna be fucking glorious.

>>34074461
>thinking the spoiled richfags with pristine ARs and not the Farmer Joes with dinged-up durr rifles and SKSes and bad teeth will be the ones to survive the apocalypse.

The future is Cletus, accept it.

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>>34077795
>THE ONLY THING WE GET IN A BOX IS PIZZA
German ideas about American food were really endearing actually. I made them breakfast burritos with bacon/eggs and they flipped the fuck out, they loved it. I once had a "Hamburger" that was like a giant breakfast sausage patty though, felt weird man.
>That just means American Food I'm presuming? Lol
"America Week" actually, just a week long promotion where they sell BBQ sauce and marshmallows and weird shit, sort of as a gag, but Germans are very curious about these sorts of things.

>>34074793
>>34077453

This is a little bit /pol/, but they literally can't change. Hillary and Bill Clinton purged their own party of any other potential leaders to avoid another Obama occurrence, everyone left is one of their cronies, incompetent/weak/no threat, or sidelined to the max. The past election threw Bernie Sanders into the mix, and right now the only two guiding lights the party has are the Clintonites and Bernie's followers, so considering he's even dropping the "democratic" from Democratic Socialist they will inevitably pull further to the left. They've fucked themselves with this identity politics bullshit and can't backpedal, they lost the base of workers that gave them another foot to stand on. For comparison, it would be like if the Republicans lost all the businessmen, and atheist Libertarians and were firmly under the thumb of the evangelicals for the foreseeable future.

>>34075726
>paying more for delicate snowflake guns that break at the drop of a hat

Slavaboo here, loving EVERY laugh.

>>34075436
Looks like a lever release design. See that thing over the magazine release? I'm pretty sure it's linked to the bolt catch, which locks open after every shot, providing automatic ejection, but not chambering a new round. Therefore it's not semi-auto.

>>34076540
>>34076644

You should come to 'Murrica. Foreigners who like gun rights are all right by me.

>>34077820
>Demand grows
>*twirls evil ammo manufacturer moustache* HAHAHAHAHA I WILL RAISE PRICES SINCE IT IS SO POPULAR!
>opponent manufacturer lowers prices
>he sells bundles while I barely sell anything
>fuck

It's like having two gas stations across from eachother at an intersection. If people see lower prices at one, they will flock to it. Competition keeps prices lower.

(unless there is a shortage, like there was with .22 because of god damned fudds I hate you so god damn much I just wanted to shoot some .22 with my little cousin but had to conserve ammo for a god damned .22 because all I could find was a couple boxes I fucking hate you god damned camo and neon orange wearing fat fucks)

>>34075502
you machined that gun yourself?

wat

>>34073213
>Still nearly $3,000 in Canada

Why live.

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>imply a AR is worth more then $300
>muh 60 year old design

ancient piece of shit relic.

>>34078865
Thank you for your contribution.

>>34073267
I panic bought my Oracle before the election...

>>34078865
>ancient piece of shit relic.

The 1911 is over a hundred years old, and it will still put your tiny dick in the dirt.

>>34074784
Yes.
Watch "Out if the blue" with Karl Urban. The antagonist in it is the reason we have these laws on the books.

NZ banned mag capacities over 7 in auto loaders and a bunch of cosmetic crap afterwards.

>>34077786
>Nope. 1161 here, We're POGs.

And retards.

11A/B/C/Z are US Army Infantry MOS designations as 11 is the Infantry CMF.

18A/B/C/D/E/F/Z and 180A are the US Army Special Forces MOS which are the only other CMF able to earn the CIB.

>>34078583
Cool memes.

>>34078847

Probably from an 80% lower.

>>34078863

>Visit the US
>Buy a gun from a guy on street corner (the antis insist that they're everywhere)
>Go back to Mapleland

>>34078915

Nice heavy, low capacity, irrelevant relic from the past.

>>34079051
Enjoy your plastic

>>34078915
>his tiny dick will ever be in anything

>>34073213
Link?

>>34079129

Price went back up:

http://defenderoutdoors.com/dpms-60531-ar-15-oracle-semi-auto-223rem-556nato-16-inch-6-pos-stock-black?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170526-DPMS-AR-15

>>34078634
DI gas system, what you see is a bolt-release for when the bolt is open. Push up to hold bolt open, push down to release bolt. Has the regular paddle on the other side.

>>34079065

works better

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>>34079244
look at this mall ninja

like I said, enjoy your plastic I'll be shooting guns

>>34079249

post em then

bet I have more metal framed pistols than you do, and I don't have many.

>>34073213
Just picked one up. Whats a decent cheap optic I can throw on it?

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>>34079262
No need to get so defensive.

I genuinely want you to enjoy your plastic.

>>34079274
nothing it is then

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>>34079274

That's what I thought, worthless nogunz. You won't be shooting shit. I'd even settle for a picture of a target from your last range trip.

You have shot a gun before, right?

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>>34079297
I guess I don't own any guns then

Enjoy your plastic

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>>34079306

Where's yours? Plastic's better than air. Least you could do is post some made in Philippines $300 garbage to back up your nonsense while I'm posting American steel.

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>>34079338
just to humor you here's exactly what you asked for

>>34079358

oh god damn it

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>>34079404

>>34078865
Is that an M9?

>>34077820
Sauce?