Why do people carry extra mags? do they honestly think they are

lurk more nogunz

>>34068792
Why do people carry guns? do they honestly think they are going to get into some gun battle. i carry a knife but i don't think its necessary to carry more shit on top of what im already carrying

>>34068792
I think it's more fear of the magazines having a failure and not having another to swap than them getting into some die hard gun battle as you described.

>>34068819
Why do people carry knives? do they honestly think they are going to get into some knife battle. I carry a whistle but I don't think its necessary to carry more shit on top of what I'm already carrying

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I'd honestly rather have it and not need it than the alternative.

>>34068792
>Because the most common malfunction with a semiauto pistol is due to the magazine. Easier to just swap them out
>mag carrier at 8 o'clock and gun at 4 o'clock evens out the profile
>jerry brown won't let me have more than 10 rounds in a magazine at a time

>>34068861
Why do people carry whistles? do they honestly think they are going to get into some whistle battle.

>>34068792
because i carry a little .32 single stack, the magazines are practically weightless, and while I think 7 rounds of .32 is definitely enough, I'd rather not have to find out what happens if I'm proven wrong. The extra mag usually just sits with my keys in my left pocket, and I'll often forget to take it out with them. and have to take it out of them in the hamper the next day

>>34068897
Why do people have mouths? Do they honestly think they are really going to get into some epic rap battle?

>>34068932
>Why do people have bodies? Do they honestly think they are really going to get into some epic rape battle?

>hurr durr why do people wear a seatbelt

>>34068949
The real question is, when a Canadian is homeless and has to sleep in his car, does he wear a regular belt or a seatbelt?

>>34068792
Because my p320 only holds 17+1 so I feel more comfortable with two extra 21 round mags.

>>34068792
Because most malfunctions in a semi auto handgun are because of the mag, by having two or more is increases the chances that you'll get a working magazine.

>>34068918
>because i carry a little .32 single stack
why?

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>>34068792
enjoy your stoppage

>>34068918
Seecamp? Tomcat? P-32?

>>34069049
Rabid street mice.

>>34068918
Are you trying to kill the fucking archduke or some shit?

>>34068792
>Why do people carry extra mags? do they honestly think they are going to get into some die hard gun battle. i carry a gun but i dont think its necessary to carry more shit on top of what im already carrying
Then why the fuck are you even at a gun store?

>>34068792
Because niggers roam in packs....

>>34068792
Because you need enough ammo to get to your long funs

>>34069065
Tomcat. Found a good deal in a pawn shop, works great.

>>34069094
Some fucking serb beat me to it, was pissed when I found out

>>34069049
I got a good deal on it, and all I really wear is shorts and it's fucking comfy senpai.

Should've mentioned I only really carry the extra mag if I'm gonna be passing through a bad neighborhood; considering I kinda live in one, I still only carry it like a few days out of the week

>>34069066
never doubt the lethality of plague mice, friend; best to shoot them before they get close enough for their fleas to jump on you.

>>34068948
Why do people have bodies? Do they honestly think they're going to incarnate into a body in order to evolve spiritually in order to ascend to a higher dimension after thousands of reincarnations and thousands of lessons learned?

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>>34068792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1LSOYIVu7g

Better to have it not need it than to need it not have it

>>34068792
Type three malfunction.

For the save reason they shit on a revolver for EDC, despite its absolute reliability and the fact that statistically, in the vanishingly small chance they ever have to pull it, they probably won't fire, and if they fire they'll almost certainly not need more than a few rounds. There are people that think they're underprotected if they don't have an AR-15 with a half dozen mags.

I feel naked without my S&W airweight, but I'm perfectly comfy with five shots. To each his own.

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>>34069094
But that was a .380 senpai

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word, still got got a five round speed clip in the pocket cuz why not?
>>34069283
The weakest handgun round one should carry is .38SPL+P. 380ACP, 32ACP, 25ACP, and 22LR/Mag/Short/etc. are complete shit faced with a denim jacket let alone level 1 or 2 armor.

>tldr: I sold my 380, 32, 25, and 22 handguns because objective testing over hundreds of rounds showed it was shit against light armor targets.

>discuss

>carry extra magazines in case your gun fails
just get a better gun that won't fail when you need it most. retards

>>34070354
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
What's there to discuss?

>>34068792
Fear. Also holy shit everyone wants you to be a meme but it's just not working.

I think it's not necessary to carry a reload if you have a reliable firearm. The sort of statistical nightmare you'd have to have to even get into a firefight that you couldn't avoid entirely, and then have a spring or feed lip failure of some kind?

Might as well carry a stack of lottery tickets to scratch after you kill all those minorities, \k\lansman.

>>34070372
don't mind the pic meant to grab the attention of retards man lol.

In the last month I have fired hundreds of rounds of .22lr, .25acp, .32acp, .380acp, .38spl, .38spl +P, 9mm, 5.56x45, 7.62x39, and 30-06 against tons of surplus armor, including my own SAPI plates.

Even with a lowly level two vest a .380acp wont open nor penetrate. Against a water jug it barely opens.

38SPL+P is the bare minimum round I will ever carry, and I've own/ed all the guns listed above and carried them.

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>>34070404
Mind you, the high recoiling .380ACP is sold, the .22LR is for fun, but I still carry the .25ACP and .32ACP but a headshot is a MUST with FMJ.

Can show my ballistic results if interested?

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>>34070404
>hurr, non-AP rounds don't go through armor
Ya don't say.

You're still a huge faggot.

Statistically, you're about as likely to die from/kill an attacker with a .25 acp than almost any other round (aside from a shotshell)

>>34068792
Because my deagle brand deagle doesn't carry enough ammo to take down a chopper and get a kill streak with just one magazine.

>>34068833
This, even if you don't run out of ammo, not having a backup mag in case of a mag related malfunction is straight up retarded.

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>>34070440
>>34070461
Objective test using tons of rounds, no hand gun rounds made it through. Rifle rounds show were those caught by two level 2-3 vest stacked together.

>>34070461
desu those chinese steel core went through tow level 2-3 vests then a cinder block wall. shit is disgusting. those are the few of the dozens I shot I found ricocheted or by magic caught in the vest. 5.56 would punch through two level three vests but fragment on a cinder block wall.

I shit u not. that chinese steel core is as AP as we can get.

>>34070545
>that chinese steel core is as AP as we can get.
Wish we could still get it, but AR owners had to fuck that up for everybody, just like everything else.

>>34070354
Why are you not wearing any pants? Can't you see it's cold outside?

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>>34070554
I buy it all the time, gunbroker, armslist, and gunshows. For $1/rd its a fucking bargin.

That said, the 22lrs I have none left since they all fragmented on the first layer of level one armor, 25 acp got stopped by the first few layers of kevlar and fell to the front, same with .38. Only .38spl, 9mm, .44mag showed enough penetration to cause shock. That said, only the rifle rounds made it thru of course. 5.56 would generally disentigrate in two layers of level 1-2 armor and be caught, chinese steel core would punch through all that and destroy the back drop. The one 7.62 you see is a wolf round for fun, went thru one vest and got caught in the spall guard behind it.

TL:DR don't carry a handgun under .38SPL, and don't face armored assailants without a rifle regardless of caliber. Plates are small, their body is not.

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>>34070554
5.45 is for fags. Just pony up $1/rd. I can show u more pics if you don't think it isn't as AP as you can legally get.
>>34070586
Yeah that was just bait bud. I'm actually an 18 year old female looking for a sugar daddy.

>>34068792
Trust me, if your aim sucks, You're gonna need more than 6 rounds.

Why do people have truck guns? do they honestly think they are going to get into some die hard gun battle. i have a truck but i dont think its necessary to carry more shit on top of what im already driving

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>>34070649
Truck guns/ car guns are retarded gun owner memes (and i'm as right as you get). Pack that shit on you, or put it in a safe no one can access. Unless you live in texas where your car is your castle, then shoot on

>>34070461
Why are shotguns that high?

>>34070680
Because they fire giant ass slugs or fucking 9 rounds of 9mm diameter buckshot. In reality, the image includes suicide, so its not really fair.

My friend shot himself in the head with a .22lr. He is blind and successful 20 years later. My other friend shot himself with a shotgun, and it was closed casket.

Read between the lines of gun "deaths" and suicides versus "legal" homicides and murder. Media lies kid.

>>34068792
You're fucking retarded.

here's your (you)

Hypothetical; you're stopped at Chevron, 3 dindu's show up and start robbing the place, 1 of them starts suppressing bystanders by pointing his hipoint at you and other patrons demanding that you get on your knees/stomach with your face down.

Dindu fucks up at the counter and fires, his dindu accomplice panics and starts killing patrons.

Do you really think you can land every shot when trying to return fire to not need more than one mag? Considering CCW mags carry anywhere from 6+1 to 15+1?

Why would you ever carry less ammo because "lol im not gunna get into an EBIN fire-fight lmao"

End yourself.

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>>34069094

made me think about how i was considering buying pic related

>>34068792
i weigh about 140ish and i'm 6'1. double stack guns print on me with my fashion and preferred style. so i carry a single stack 9mm, and have an extra mag because i can conceal both items without any real problem and extra bullets is better than not enough bullets.

I really do hope this is a troll because my god....the saying has been around for ages.."better to have and not need than to need and not have". You never know what situation you will be in till you get there. Most people dont know how much their nerves will interfere and if you are carrying a small gun with a 5 round mag...well buddy that mother fucker will be gone as soon as you pull the trigger once if you have never been in a high stress situation. I carry an extra mag because in the event a TRR doesnt work im gonna drop the mag out of habit and reach for my back up.

>>34070702
Good lord man, do you just make a lot of friends or do you just attract the suicidal ones?

>>34070975
HAHAHA

>>34070702
what was kurt cobain like?

>>34070728
Here's a hypothetical for you

None of that happens and you're still a massive faggot

O wait thats not hypothetical at all

>>34070461
That's because the .22 bounces around inside the target

>>34070702
>My friend shot himself in the head with a .22lr. He is blind
Were you friends with Sobel?
> and successful
Disregard that.

>>34068875
this person is 140% slavic
it's in our blood

>>34068792
Because methheads exist and are invincible bulletsponges.

>>34068792
Why do people carry extra oxygen in their lungs? do they honestly think they are going to get into some die hard run battle. i like to run but i dont think its necessary to breathe more air on top of what im already breathing

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>>34068792
>necessary

>>34068819
>not carrying spare blades and grips in case yours breaks and you need to replace it mid fight

>>34070361
Even a 100% reliable firearm isn't 100% reliable anymore when a dumb dirty human is put in charge of maintanence anon.

Shit fucks, good to have a backup.

>>34068875

posts like this are why i read /k

top kek

>>34068792
OP IS A MASSIVE FAGGOT

>>34070847
get it. they're nice.

>>34068792
1) multiple attacker scenarios are a thing. gangs seriously do attack in groups of 7-15 "people".

2) the fastest way to clear double feeds basically involves ripping the mag out and reloading.

>>34068897
why do people? do they honestly think?

>>34068897
Why do people carry rap? It's not like they're going to get into some kind of nigger ghetto hood rat battle.

>>34071382
>Why do people even breathe when the local hospital has a machine that will do it for them?

>>34068833
Very much this. If I find myself in actual need of more than half a mag then I'm already well into should've brought a rifle and a friend with a rifle territory. But mags are light and shit happens.

>>34069360
>learning lessons.....

Pussy

>>34068792

It's to swap out mags incase of magazine malfunction, which is the number one cause of fuckery with a gun.

So fuck off noguns faggot

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>>34070919
you're fucking SKINNY son

>>34070361
This is why i only trust my life to Glock.

>>34070375
This is why i only sctatch lottery tickets with my glock!

>>34070728
>3 dindu's show up and start robbing the place
situational awareness, mental check if draw is obstructed, empty hands
>1 of them starts suppressing bystanders by pointing his hipoint
take cover, draw weapon, fire

end yourself.

>>34070521
why the fuck do you need a handgun round that can defeat body armor for run of the mill self defense? I don't think Tyrone is going to be robbing you in Type IIIa body armor anytime soon.

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What's your guys' take on carrying a .38 spl+P snubby with no speed loaders?

>>34070671
when will this texas is the only castle state meme die?

almost every state has some form of castle doctrine

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>>34068875
>>34069657
>>34070962
This, there is literally nothing wrong with said preparation.

Never needed more than four magazines overseas in a tic, still carried eleven.

If you can, why not?

>>34068792

I carry an extra mag because it distributes the weight of a heavy gun.

If I only carry the gun with no mag on the opposite side my belt digs into my side and possibly gives me an upset stomach.

Now stop making threads about things you don't participate in

Go outside and look for black people.
The thug age people travel in packs.
How many people are in their average squad? 3? 4? 5?

That's not even mentioning the weird /pol/bait Chimpout/flashmobs with 40-60 dindus "running up on someone" and beating the shit out of them.

figure 5 rounds per person including misses
why would you carry any less than 20 rounds?

>>34077522

Your
Gay

>>34070375
nailed it

>>34068792

I practice Mozambique drills and assume that 3 rounds per target will be the average to disable the threat.

Then you have to factor in the adrenaline and situational context that could affect my aim and discipline to not just panic and mag dump.

I carry 2x12 round mags (one in compact 9mm gun) and it gives me a little more confidence to know that if I go full autist and can't hit anything with the first mag, I at least have a backup plan. Also it helps to balance out the weight since I carry my CCW on my 5 and mag holster on my 7.

I also take into consideration that if I ever get mugged or attacked, there is the possibility that it could be Jamal and all his friends instead of just Jamal. If I have 12 rounds and at best manage to land 3 in 4 targets, if there's a fifth or more, I'm fucked.

https://youtu.be/M4hTnn1o2cs

>>34068792
Some guns are low capacity and the whole Fucking point of ccing is to be prepared for bad Shit

niggers travel in packs.

>>34079740
>implying their morale isnt so terrible they break immediately if you shoot them

>>34076559
This actually does happen; but what about winter time when people are wearing 2 jackets? It'll stop weaker rounds without a doubt.

>>34070728
>Putting all this thought into a situation just to justify carrying extra mags
You are one paranoid nutcase, and you make the rest of us look bad.

>>34079996
>without a doubt
I don't give a shit how puffy your jacket is, you aren't going to let someone shoot you in the chest just because you have two jackets on.

>>34077522
>>34078773
Ehhh I'll give this fella half the benefit of the doubt. He is right the most problematic dindus will be in groups. It's best to arm assuming his dark brethren are lurking at your 2, 4, and 6 o'clock...this also brings up the eternal argument and fact most modern gun owners don't understand which is Situational Awareness. Anywho depending on the venue you are traversing the "hood nigga" may be trying to put in work or jump in on a helpless white man to prove loyalty. And if a nigger gets dropped by a white man in the hood and no others were around to see it...did it happen? To the blacks no but to the true kommando we are making the streets safer one body at a time.

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>>34070354
That real chick is so fucking hot.

I know this is bait but i carry a g42 .380 its for self defense you faggot. If your running into armor shoot for the eye and get out. Leave it to real operators to deal with.

>>34068965
What does being Canadian have to do with that

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>>34068792
Failure of the primary magazine is a big reason.

Also theirs been plenty of instances where a perpetrator has survived 30+ rounds of pistol munitions and continued to be a problem.

Most self defense scenarios involve more than one perpetrator as well.

Its like going deep into some std ridden whores snatch, what would you rather have, bareback or EXTRA STRENGTH condoms.

IMO
The experts carry extra mags so I think id rather listen to them than some bravado filled retard on the internet.

>>34068792
If you malfunction and need to drop your mag. What do you do when you don't carry a spare or two?

>>34070728
Pretty good post.

However, as soon as a single round heads towards them they're bolting for the door. You'll probably only get four or five accurate shots off anyway.

>>34080176
use the bayonet.

>>34070612
Except 300 win mag shits all over it, fag
And 5.56 goes through ar500

>>34070671
Truck guns are not for self defense

>>34073985
Pistols don't double feed

>inb4 a failure to extract/eject is a double feed

>>34080224
I can't conceal carry a 400 dollar AR on my body. However, I sure as fuck can in my truck. When you're getting car jacked by high point and your assailants are behind literally anything thicker than a phone book you might reconsider a truck gun.

>>34070671
It's only retarded if you leave it inside your vehicle unattended while at your home. Other than that, they serve their use warding off armed ambushes if you live in the countryside of a third world shithole like me.

>>34080263
I'm not decrying truck guns
I'm saying they're not first line self defense

>>34068918
>jam new mag into gun during gunfight
>pocket lint jams it up
>rack it 3+ times
>eventually hold slide back and jiggle it around until shit falls out
>bang

>>34070333
I thought it was a .25ACP???

>>34080267
First for vehicle use is locking your goddamn doors.... You ever see that shit on the news, literally car after car.

>>34068792
Because the average ghetto black family has 8 children and sometimes one magazine just isnt enough for pest control.

>>34079996
Nigga you retarded

>Muh magazine malfunction
Test your fucking gun before carrying it to make sure it feeds reliably
>Muh multiple attackers
As every defensive shooting video has shown, it doesn't matter how many there are, the moment a single shot is fired in their general direction dindu's take off running light they just found of KFC has a new special.

>>34080370
until one or two of them don't run and stay to fight you mean

it's not a guarantee they will flee at the first sign of resistance

Can anyone post a link to a vid where an extra mag was needed by civilian defending himself?

I've watched hundreds of vids and without exception the bad guys run away as soon as bullets start flying.

It feels like people are just defending the fact that they want to play operator.

>>34080407
>dindus will stand and fight to rob your wallet
Why would you stand and fight someone with a gun. Unless you can be sure your buddies back you up (you cant) you get shot and die. Most that do have a gun do not know how to use it, and if they could they would understand having a shootout is not a good idea.

>>34080230
>inb4 a failure to extract/eject is a double feed

ok, ok, you're right. you're also an austic pedant.

either way, you know damn well you'll need extra mags for a good number of stoppages.

I carry an extra 17 round factory mag when I carry my PPQ and one sometimes two extra mags when I carry my ppk.
I fully agree that I'll never use the extra mag(s) but its comforting to know if for whatever reason I need to use it I can.
Its the same reason I have an AR when my mossberg 500 would be perfectly fine for pretty much any defensive senario I could ever find my self in.

The old maxim goes that conceal carry should be comforting not confortable and carrying an extra mag in a pocket isn't uncomfortable and its very comforting.

>>34080447
it isn't always going to be about your fucking wallet

>>34080581
Your wallet, your sisters pussy, you called them a nigger

It doesn't matter, people tend to get really scared when the possibility of dying is there, and the possibility of dying absolutely fucking skyrockets when your opponent has a gun.
Look at any mass shooting incident, hundreds of people and only one shooter, they could easily just swarm and kill him the moment he fired off a shot; some would die but ultimately the kill rate would be significantly lower than what it usually is. This never fucking happens because people hear a gunshot and fucking bolt it.

>>34080597
>Look at any mass shooting incident, hundreds of people and only one shooter, they could easily just swarm and kill him the moment he fired off a shot; some would die but ultimately the kill rate would be significantly lower than what it usually is. This never fucking happens because people hear a gunshot and fucking bolt it.
Don't you realize that this is a bad thing?

If people are trained to react tactically to gun shot, things would be different.

Think that instead of stupid PE exercises, you are drilled this shit when you are in primary school.

>>34076681
Probably enough. Probably.

>>34080581
Why else would a dindu attack you?

>>34068833
Do you guys actuality have mag related failures...? Mags are a pretty simple thing, impossible to fail once you've figured it out (as in didnt but the gun yesterday and not shoot it)

>>34080630
blaming evil whitey

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>>34070521
>not exclusively using 9x19mm m/39B

It's like you want to be raped by niggers wearing Soviet soft body armor from the 1980s

>>34068792
>damn, I brought too much ammo to this gunfight

Said no one ever

>>34070188
I've had revolvers malfunction on me quite a few times

I carry only one spare magazine with my carry pistol I choose for the day. I've never had a misfeed off of my glock 22 or my S&W SD.40. I recently picked up a suppressor ready CZ P-07 but I doubt I'll be carrying that anytime soon until I get some range time with it and see how it feels. With the magazine capacity of all three of my side arms being 14-15+1 I don't feel a need for more than 31 or 29 rounds for what will be a very short shootout (and even then, that doesn't happen pretty much EVER where I'm from in NM). I carry the spare in the event that, who knows, maybe I do end up putting all 16-15 rounds downrange? Then what happens if Dindu-Nuffin and company are still around but not empty themselves? I do carry spare magazines for all my weapons in my vehicle were the need ever to arise

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>>34068792
Why even carry a mag in the gun ? Throwing your pistol is superior.

Op's pockets and waistband are full of dildos so he has no room for spare mags.

>>34081176
reminds me of that spic that tried this against an officer

>>34081094
holy shit this changes everything some anonymous faggot claims he had failures

>>34081094
So you spin the cylinder and slam it shut or just throw it around before shooting?

>>34079986

And that's why you carry more ammo with you. Gotta make sure you kill them all so there's nobody to testify against you.

>>34080367

there have been many cases of handgun bullets behind defeated by clothing

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>>34068792

>"gun battle"

Most robberies aren't a 1 on 1 confrontation; there is strength in numbers. So, better to have too much ammo and not need it than to have to few rounds and need it.

What's an extra .25lbs? I mean you already carry your fat ass around all day, what's another little bit of weight?

>>34080607
So how do we teach the kids who goes in front? Do we draw straws to see who gets to be the statistic?

>>34080322
>mag holders

>>34068792
Barrel directly pointed at nutsack and femoral artery

>>34080660
No, not yet. I carry a 26 so a small backup 10rd magazine isn't a big deal desu.

>>34071095
late, but I'll answer anyway

20 gauge birdshot from under the chin apparently didn't mangle his head, but it did turn his brains to mush. Some electricity guy found Cobain and only realized he'd shot himself when he saw the blood that came out of his ear

>>34068875

The true alternative isn't "need it and not have it". It's "don't have it and still don't need it."

>>34083056
I'm sorry, are you hiding a crystal ball in your pussy?

inb4 muh statistics

>>34082503
and?

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>>34068792
>2012+5
>has never been in a random firefight where volume of suppressive fire has forced the tango to retreat and/or resupply
>you must be at least 18 years old to post on this board

>>34068833
>fear of the magazines having a failure
^ this

plastic errything handguns. If metal costs 5 cents, and plastic costs .03 cents the mfg will use plastic.

That and leaving a mag loaded for 5 months and the spring freezes in retracted position.

I will take a 5 shot revolver over a 15 shot plastic advertised in erry gun rag and message forum in the world.

>>34068861
>I carry a rape whistle

>>34076681
Just carry a speed strip or two instead.

>>34070354
http://shootingthebull.net/blog/final-results-of-the-380-acp-ammo-quest/

Denim tests. .380 works.

>>34080660
Magazines account for most malfunctions.

>>34068792

I usually carry in the 3-4 o'clock position and a mag or two in 8-9 o'clock position feels like a good counter balance to me. Might be all in my head but it feel off when I don't do that.

>>34068792
Sometimes I'll carry an extra mag, most times I wont.

I get that it's "safer" to have a spare mag in case you do need extra ammo or there is a malfunction, but there's always more you can do to protect yourself. We could wear a vest under our shirts every day, or take martial arts lessons, or perhaps even carry a 2nd gun as a backup.

It's really just preference as to how much effort you put into personal security, and my preference like many others is that just one magazine is sufficient enough for 99% of the time. The way I see it, if I die because I didn't have that spare mag then it was meant to be.

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>>34070354
I'd figure 20 grains behind a .454 swagged lead round would be the lowest rate

>>34070440
>headshot
ask me how I know you're an idiot

abdomen isn't typically covered by primary plates and nobody but spergs like me enjoy the idea of carrying three times the weight of a basic front/back/sides carrier as torso, groin and main joint protection. second to that legs and arms are the next nearest reliable target and are also conveniently occluding the torso in tactical situations anyways

>>34070680
because shotties are common as fuck and make up a large portion of arms used in these types of incidents, that plus raw power equates to having a disparate number of kills

>>34077475
I once read about an AUS that carried nineteen mags, his instructor asked why specifically that many and he replied
>I couldn't find a spoit to put the twentieth

>>34082462
situational awareness and a bit of psychology will help put the biggest prom queen out front every time

>>34080674
>this is now a legit precaution to assume
the last five years sure have been crazy

>>34084476
springs don't freeze unless damage or contamination renders it suspect

>every time you load or unload the tension on a spring, damage is occurring

don't unload your mags without a good reason, save your springs