British police with H&K G36c in Manchester, today, one day

>>34045118
Why? What the fuck are they going to achieve parading around with their little rifles? Stupid fucking West not having the balls to solve this problem once and for all

>>34045118
Those are specialist firearms officer's, similar to GSG-9.

>>34045152
Anon. It's obviously a small show of force to assume civilians that they're doing their part to stop attacks like this
>attack happens
>everyones worried as they become more common
>police are armed and around more often
>'well i feel better and safer!'
Duhhh

>Stupid fucking West not having the balls to solve this problem once and for all
>he typed; slapping his keyboard and nearly knocking his mtn dew onto his massive gut
>'let me over there, i'd have it handled in a week' he grunts before sliding off his mattress/computer desk to find a fresh bottle to urinate into

>>34045137
w-what??

>>34045118
Are the guys with the MCX's and 516's with the grey assault suits a London only thing?

>>34045166
yeah, no

>>34045221
You can quite clearly see the SFO designation, these officers are trained for counter-terrorism deployments and spend at-least six months training for the role.

>>34045171
Lol, I was in a diner actually scarfing down corn beef. No mtn dew. I understand it's a show of force. I won't go into politics any more but it has to do with total ban and absolute deportation, use force when necessary to ensure compliance

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>>34045216
thats CTFSO, Most big cities in the UK have them now, though London has 600 on the go at any given time.

oi get those weapons of war off our streets

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>>34045327
You can get a working gun for this on your FAC here.

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>>34045118
I can't get over those Under Armour boots yuk.

The tall guy with the MTP has an L85A2

>>34045118
>one masked
>one unmasked
>one shitskin
>two negroids
>marxists won the day in manchester
>manchester? i hardly know her

>>34045118
>bomb attack
It was a mixtape.

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>>34045118
Flip police during (((emergencies))) are barely distinguishable from the army.

>>34045415
That's because their emergencies often require the response from an army

>>34045415
>(((Indeed!)))
>False flags = Socialism recruiting

>>34045415
they looks surprisingly legit t b h

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>>34045439
Militarized police is indeed the mark of a shithole.
>>34045456
Still tryna get nice pics of the recent Mindanao shitfight going on with Pinoy ISIS wannabes.

>>34045530
>Militarized police is indeed the mark of a shithole.
Yeah, like the USA

>>34045530
if you've got large numbers of armed civilians (militias) percieved as a threat, youre gonna have militarised police to respond

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>>34045415
Well, when you have a bunch of heavily armed communist and islamic rebels roaming around the streets, you clearly want a paramilitary force or a heavier armed first respond unit to take care of their asses. The Irish police literally had to barricade their stations with cinder blocks and barbed wire and get some submachine guns as a response to IRA and Ulster forces. Puerto Rico's police is not as militarized as the Pinoys in Midanao is, but the projects are literal shitholes for drug syndicates to operate their headquarters in.
>tfw the corruption, mistrust and lacking manpower is so high that the National Guard os required to gain people's trust and assist their patrols and raids
A-at least it's not as bad as it was in the 90s

>>34045530
>but I thought the US police were militarized!

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>>34045585
>Omg the police are wearing black uniforms and using big scary black guns! Stop militarizing the police and give more MRAPs to ISIS please!

>>34045374
He has an L85 because he's 33 EOD (British Army), not police.

>>34045940
Yeah, fucking armored vehicles aren't the very definition of militarization

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>>34045585
>>34045906
Uh, its not like the US though. US just has swat or the beat cops wear tactical kits in crises.

Here in Flipdom, rebel infested territories have paramilitary police units who are strapped 24/7 like the SAF (Special Action Force) and the Regional Mobile Groups. In addition we have a Gendarmerie and not local police forces.

>>34045343
Don't you need a section 5 permit first?

>>34045991
The police have always had Armored vehicles aka armored cars. What's the worse they can do with an armored car? Explain to me how an armored vehicle is a threat to the civilian population.

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>>34045118

We use tactical sledgehammers

>>34046055
>tactical

Does it have rails and a red dot?

>>34045415
>this is what the left wants

>>34046055
Sledge is such a fun operator to main.

>>34045415
>filename
solid kek

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We have soldiers sprinkled around the big city's near the tourists attractions and subways etc pairs of 2 or 3

>>34046055
These the new Siege operators?

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>>34046127

>>34045374
The army are now being used to support the police, PM just announced it : also threat level is now critical so another attack is expected.

>>34045281
You're a retard.

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We all know GSG9 of our Federal Police

>>34046110
>>34046132
meine neggers!

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>>34045189
i would steal a loaf of bread to feed a starving family

>>34046127
When did that start? I was there around 10 years ago and only saw Carabinieri and normal cops in those kind of places.

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>>34046383
However, our basically state police also has SWAT-type units: SEK

>>34046456
Think after the Paris attack its fairly new

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>tfw czech police started drilling tram hostage rescue recently
literally fucking why

>>34046515
kek
What's up with those trash bag helmet covers tho

>>34045189
>Would you be willing to do bad things in the name of love?
That's a fucking U2 song.

I was at the Louvre during the attack in feburary.Nearly all policemen had G36c's or Benelli shotguns exept for the one poor motherfucker who got a beat-to-shit PM-12.

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>>34045189
>>34045137
>it's a "Saoirse "When you see a Brit, prepare your IED kit" Ronan is browsing /k/ again" thread
goddammit

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On the topic of Ireland,our police dont carry. if we have terrorists we drop ARW (army ranger wing) on them (basically the SAS of Ireland)

>>34046515
expect the unexpected

>>34045415
You know shit's fucked when the police need M203s.

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>>34046457
You forgot these.

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>>34045118
A bit late aren't we?

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>>34046686
Meanwhile south of the border

>highly trained mobile teams of bongs carrying fire arms
>give them semi auto mp5s

how come you guys get semi auto only mp5s?

kind of a weird order for such a large number of them.

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>>34045118

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>>34047753

>>34046769
kek

>>34045118
Countries that recently hosted turrist tacks are really pleasant to visit. I just happened to be going to France at the end of 2015 and it was nice.

>>34046055
Where's the scope?

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>>34045271
>six months of training with guns
>comparable to GSG9

hell to the naw

GSG9:

>selection process with a washout rate of 85-90%
>4 months of basic operator training
>6 months of specialized training (snipers, diving unit, aircraft boarding, EOD, observation and IT)
>literally the last line of defence
>train with german army sf and navy sf
>get jungle, desert and arctic training
>get nice UF Pro overalls with that sick cb federal police patch

Not comparable to a bobby with a g36c and a facemask at all.

>>34045152
wow maybe they're looking out for cunts trying to attack major public places after a massive terror attack the night before

>>34045118
I distinctly remember seeing britcops with mp5's when I was in LONDON, but that was a long time ago

>>34047711
If you've ever seen bong armed polices average grouping, you'd know why its safer for the public this way

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SEK in my state, they sometimes train on the range of my gun club when it isn't open for the public, same as the detectives and the prison guards who shoot their re-qualifications there

>>34047763
> black dude
> Cabelas cap
> sandals (I think) with black socks

Terrible footwear aside, they've either got the wrong guy or he is a master of disguise.

It's fucking funny how anti gun cucks claim it makes people safer if nobody has them.

Meanwhile in basically every European capital or major city, police need to be placed armed with submachine guns, actual assault rifles, shotguns, or be replaced with actual soldiers.

>>34045118
I noticed that the bobbies at the gates of RAF Fairford were armed with MP7s several years ago, I can't say I've seen any since but fresh 4.6mm blanks turn up at various MoD ranges now and again.

>>34052164
Exceptional circumstances though, faggot.

Back in the 70s Isrseli cops used to carry RPG-7s in their trunks

>>34046523
urban camouflage. makes ya look like trash when using trash as concealment. makes the guy you're shooting at stop and go "why trash gobang" giving you the advantage

>>34051926
>ride with a brit on a bumpy road
>kept saying by jove and shit like that
>except it was bumpy so it was more like
>b-b-b-b-b-y-y-y-y-y juh-juh-juh-jov-vuhvuvhvuh
I'd imagine it'd be like that except with a lot more casualties.

>>34045166
This is closer to a SEK than the GSG9.

>>34045118
Is it semi-only? Are their police cucked in the police state?

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>>34052393

Patrol rifles in the US are semiauto only too m8

>Full auto in a crowded place

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MP5s are still pretty common in Norway, I'm sure they're full auto since the police bought MP5s from the military when they were getting rid of theirs.
The Emergency Response Unit (similar to FBI HRT for comparison) has Diemaco C8.

>>34045166
They're not specialist firearms officers you dumbfuck, they're regular AFOs/ARVs.

>>34045271
The patch says 'specialist operations'. That's just their directorate within the GMP. Like how all armed cops in London used to come under the SO19 (Special Operations) banner.

>>34051894
Genuine CTSFOs are comparable to GSG9 in terms of ability, it's just that their capabilities are more limited. In areas where their roles overlap (the important ones - hostage rescue, siege, pre-planned serious crime, counter terrorism, supporting undercover operations), their skill level is pretty much like for like. And when you look at the publicly known GSG9 deployments, you have to ask whether that jungle/desert/arctic training, dive training, airborne training etc. is actually an efficient use of resources, especially when you have ample German military SF assets. I think the British system of allowing cops to specialise in a more niche area, and leaving military SF to do anything exotic, actually works. You could send cops to some remote overseas territory in the middle of the jungle, but why would you when you can send SF?

>>34045189
Youre an american whos like 1/6th irish arent you

>>34052393
>Full auto in urban areas with random people around
>Giving that to Officer "I shoot my gun twice a year at the shooting range"
It's like you want to pour gasoline onto a fire

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>>34045118
>Not bludgeoning the terrorist with you hummer

>>34052443
That actually depends on the department. There are plenty of local cops rolling around with full auto or 3 round burst rifles in their cruisers.

Yeah I'm sure the snackbars will do something now that an attack just happened and everybody's on high alert.

Goddamn, people are fucking retarded

>>34045189
Well actually I'm partially Scottish, but same difference...

>>34053015
You are the only retard here mate. A suicide west means there was an organized cell. Once it executed an operation it has a limited amount of time before it gets exposed so they will try do do another one before they are dismantled. Unless the security forces can get to them first or at least mount enough pressure to make them care more about escape than executing again.

>>34053015
If you goal is to spread fear and terror, this is the best time to do it. Deploying soldiers onto the streets is kind of a big deal for the UK (although the impact is lessened by the fact everyone got used to seeing squaddies around London at the Olympics 5 years ago). If they can achieve even a moderate amount of fatalities with another attack now, then people are going to feel that even the most drastic of measures isn't enough to keep them safe. Because there isn't really a plan beyond Op Temperer. If people are still being killed when there's soldiers walking the streets, then the average person will really start to take notice. And that's brilliant for furthering their cause.

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New Mexico State Police SWAT

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Military arrives at the British parliament, today

>>34053074
When was the last time an active cell was actually exposed? The media keeps forcing the lone wolf narrative and people keep gobbling it up.

>>34053078
Not really, the scary shit is knowing that you can get blown up when all seems calm and you're going to a concert with your friends.

>>34045585
I wish more people got this, though, seriously.

ISIS sucks, and terrorism is a threat. Islamic terrorism in particular.

Militarized police suck and are a threat as well. I'm not talking "shoot a random black guy who's resisting" threat, I'm talking "lull the population into thinking it's reassuring to have militarized police playing commando in the town square" sort of threat.

That said, ISIS is dangerous and Islamic terrorism will cost lives in the U.S., UK, Canada, Australia...etc. Without minimizing that one iota, the acceptance of militarized police forces are an even more serious threat to our ways of life. ISIS is going to hurt, but it isn't going to take over the world anytime soon. But show me a country with militarized police in public, and I'll show you a country that's already on its way out.

>>34052443
> Rifle can switch from full auto to semi

>>34046127
I was in Rome in February and can confirm this. Dudes with AR-70/90's and ARX-160's on every street corner and I for one was glad they where there. Florence on the other hand didn't have this and had African migrants running around harassing tourists and it pissed me off to no end.

>>34053187
I heard most department do it, because it's easier to monitor the shots that way.

>>34053118
You have no idea what you are talking about. Spewing pol buzzwords is not a substitute to making a well reasonable argument.

>>34051903
>massive terror attack the night before
missing the point. IT already happend, It would be very stupid to do it the next day.

>>34053030
Nae, lad, ye're Scottish. Nae "part" Scottish. There's the one-drop rule with Scots. If ye're part Scottish, ye're Scottish.

>>34046140
>>34046127
Interesting. Everyone seems to have ALICE belts

>>34053267
kek

Funny because it's true. There's no such thing as part-Scottish.

>>34053200
>Florence on the other hand didn't have this and had African migrants running around harassing tourists and it pissed me off to no end.

Went to Florence last December and had an opposite observation. There was a lot of guys with ARX-160 but didn't see a single AR70. It was pretty cold so all the migrants were selling fake Napapijri jackets and not harassing us.

>>34053452
AR-70s are being replaced, too bad there will barely be any on the civilian market here
Also BM-59s cost like 1300 and you can't even get the standard mags anymore because of the brits voting for more gun-grabbing despite not even being in the EU anymore
JUST

>>34045383
Your intolerance and separatist worldview is no different than that of ISIS and many other extremist group.

>>34052949
>Genuine CTSFOs are comparable to GSG9 in terms of ability
Fuck off. The analogous unit to gsg9 is SAS in bongistan.

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>>34053452
When I was there it was like 65 degrees out and the migrants where swarming like ants. It broke my heart to see the land of my ancestors being defiled by those savages. It was horrible so I just got drunk that night and moved on to the much less ethnically enriched Southern Italy.

>>34045216
Yeah I think so.

>>34045118
Dutch police and Special Forces have started using the HK416 recently, though if they want to they can buy something themselves as long as it fires 5.56

>>34046036
We don't have the firepower to kill it, thats why.

>>34045374
Why is the tall guy wearing an airsoft mesh face protection?

>>34045618
What helmet is that?

>>34053254
Ad hominem isn't either, just so you know.
Answer my question and I'll stand corrected.

>>34052289
Still, you only see this in America when there's an actual chance of a riot.

>>34053587
No, GSG9 is a police unit attached to their border patrol. KSK is their SAS like unit.

>>34053587
The analogous unit to KSK is SAS in bongistan*

GSG9 is a national, federal swat team. The CTSFO network is a national swat team, and insofar as it's available on demand to any UK government authority, it's the closest thing to 'federal' that we have.

The CTSFOs are analogous to the SAS CT wing. Their techniques and methodologies are pretty much identical, which is why there have been randomly assorted, ad-hoc, mixed teams of SAS and CTSFOs running around for the past few days. The difference is, once one SAS squadron is finished with its CT duties, it then goes off to perform the FULL spectrum of special forces operations (because, unlike the US, Britain doesn't have 60,000 troops on the SOF payroll and dozens of different organisations, each with their own SF niche - the SAS do it all). GSG9 isn't a military unit.

GSG9 is as analogous to the SAS as the CTSFOs are to the KSK. You could make the argument that GSG9 is analogous to the SAS CT wing. But, as previously stated, the SAS CT wing and the CTSFOs are two peas in the same pod. The most significant difference between them is operational experience. But that same experience gap exists between GSG9 and KSK.

I don't think people appreciate how highly trained the CTSFOs are. With the creation of the ATLAS network, along with joint NATO exercises, there's very few discrepancies in how any major European counter terrorism force operates. The techniques are quite uniform across the board. The CTSFOs are a key player in the ATLAS network, and they have plenty of access to training opportunities with the SAS. They have the same training facilities as the SAS, they have even more time than the SAS to refine their techniques (not saying they're better, but they don't cycle out of CT training like SAS squadrons do), and they have tip-top equipment.

>>34053600
I thought it was the other way around.

>>34053720
KSK are less trained than GSG9 and disgraced themselves in operations in Afghanistan

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>>34053658
Identity probably

They're from a EOD squadron attached to UKSF and were there alongside members of the SAS. Everyone in recent UKSF photos covers their face with those masks instead of balaclavas and hoods and shit

>>34053749
Just speculation on my part, but there could be an actual application for those masks. Perhaps they reduce the risk of fragmentation injuries from blowing doors to shit.

>>34053739
Regardless of who is better at what they do, the GSG9 are not more highly trained than the KSK.

>>34053749

Normal face masks may also cause your eyewear to fog up if you are breathing hard.
With the mesh, that's not really a concern.

>>34053716
>attached to the border patrol

Wrong. The Border Patrol was renamed Federal Police in 2005.

>>34053737
No Northern Italy is much more industrial and thus has better welfare. Plus most migrants that come to Italy are looking to leave and go to places like Germany, Sweden, or France for that sweet sweet handout money.

>>34046292
he's not wrong.

>>34046127
WOW that dude's Italian looking.

>>34053739
what happened?

>>34053749
Talking of identity, the MOD have such an apparent hard on for SF secrecy (some former land commander was on BBC news earlier saying 'obviously I'm not prepared to discuss Special Forces matters'), and not one authority has explicitly said 'Specialist Firearms Officers supported by members of the Special Forces', despite the fact any moron can guess that the guys in camouflage, with suppressors on their rifles, probably aren't bobbies, but no one apparently suggested that, if they want to be low-profile, incognito, the SAS should be given some spare CTSFO uniforms. Laughably, they went to the effort of sticking 'SFO' tabs on their arms, but apparently didn't think the uniforms and gear were a bit of a giveaway. Just seems very counter-intuitive that on the one hand they're trying to push the idea that only police (with some minor specialist military support) were kicking down Mancunian front doors, but they couldn't be arsed to actually get them to blend in. Kinda like pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining.

>>34053560
KEEEEEK

>>34052289
>unironically believing silly government "muh terrorist threat" propaganda
The terrorists already won, nitwit. Your liberty is being eroded under the pretense of fighting an imaginary, never-ending "war" on terror (political dissent); soon enough there won´t exist public spaces without CCTV coverage or armed government henchmen.

The only way to combat random lone wolf attacks is to respect a citizen´s right to armed self-defense. That´ll never be realized in Britain, however; in large part because the rulers of that cloudy, miserable, poor island value control control over their citizens more than the effective tackling of criminal behavior.

>>34046456
Operation "Strade Sicure" (safe streets), which is military patrols or police-military mixed patrols, began in 2008

>>34053765
>>34053773
>>34053749
But mesh sucks. If money is no object, why not use 180$ Die masks with the thermal thingies that never fog up?

>>34053995

Because the people who actually know enough to know those things are the people who aren't going to be scared of the big bad military men.

>>34047612
I want to say those aren't anti-tank rockets but they probably are, right?

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>>34051894
>gets into firefight with kebab at night
>pew! pew! pew!
>can't see shit in between shots captain

>>34052949
>especially when you have ample German military SF assets
Military needs permission from parliament to do any operations outside the border, so in time sensitive scenarios it's easier to just sent the GSG9, which are police officers and don't fall under those rules.
But I think the last time they simply sent the KSK and asked for permission later

>>34053651
Immigrant detected.

>>34052443
I think Illinois state police have select-fire AR-15s, local PD probably has semi-auto.

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>>34054092
Other than the military patrols, in 2015 Italy created 2 new police units as middle between normal police and special forces (NOCS and GIS). The police units are armed with UMP in 9mm

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>>34054375
And Carabinieri's unit, armed with AR-70/90

>>34053716
GSG9 is part of the federal police.

The CTSFO is like the german SEK units.

>>34053720
>>34052949
The difference is actually pretty simple.
Army SF require the parliament to positively vote for deployment.
Federal Police SF don't.

>>34053720
Answer one simple question:

Are CTSFO trained for airmobile operations, maritime operations (example: boarding ships from the water) and do they have desert training and are used outside of british territory?

If no than they are not like the gsg9

>>34046292
Excellent rebuttal mudshit

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>>34046292
He's Captain Obvious.

>>34054782
>Are CTSFO trained for airmobile operations

I think the Met's CTSFO have done training with 658 Squadron Army Air Corp, using the same AS365 cabs as UKSF use

>>34054666
A similar system exists in the United Kingdom. But that doesn't necessarily relate to the original point which is a comparison between CTSFOs and GSG9 in terms of key skills. I can see how it's relevant to the justification of GSG9 receiving training in exotic terrain though, so that's a fair point.

>>34054782
>Are CTSFO trained for:
>airmobile operations
They can deploy by fast rope from helicopter. They can also land on roof structures and rappel down to floors below. CTSFO rifle officers are trained as helicopter marksmen. They're not parachutists however.

>maritime operations (example: boarding ships from the water)
Yes. They're trained in non-compliant boarding of ships in port and ships underway. There's at least one publicly known incidence of an actual ship boarding operation which they conducted alongside the SBS.

>do they have desert training
No, but I maintain that, given GSG9's actual deployment history (I know they were in Iraq, I take that into consideration), the fact that GSG9 CAN operate in desert environments doesn't necessarily make much difference in a comparison with CTSFOs. DEVGRU can deploy from submerged submarines. I don't know if Delta can, but if they can't, then does that mean that DEVGRU and Delta aren't comparable, even though 99% of the time they're carrying out the same functions? Furthermore, desert training does not an SAS make.

>are used outside of british territory?
We can't be sure. It's unlikely, but given that the CTSFOs have been a consistent presence in the motorcade of every major politician and foreign leader that has visited the UK, it doesn't seem inconceivable that their bodyguard duties might carry them abroad at some time to protect British dignitaries.

The fact remains that GSG9 is Germany's premier counter terrorism unit. CTSFOs are, officially, the UK's premier counter terrorism unit. The CTSFOs have had a far larger presence at every major incident for the past decade than the SAS.

>>34045152
What's your solution?

I saw a Dutch cop with a MP5 last time some sandnigger pulled some shit.

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>>34055015
During the Stavanger Hostage Situation GSG9 Maritime Ops were deployed to the area but ultimately left on hold and ordered back to germany, when the government decided to pay off the pirates instead.

GSG9 can be deployed rapidly to crisis situations involving german citizens but can never achieve a full military scale approach.

That is to say, the german military doctrine (if you want to call it that) strongly dictates that military evacuation operations are done by the "Divison Schnelle Kräfte", (Rapid Forces Division) which is 2 Para Regiments + Army SF. ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pegasus_(2011) )
GSG9 can always be requested by BKA (german federal criminal police oder other LKA (state level criminal police) to assist in raids, obervations or by the state police forces themselves in a terorrist situation (as they did in Hannover) - however state-level SEK teams will always be there faster. Despite their inferior budget, their selection is close to that of the GSG9.

Arguably, GSG9 fits a niche considering just how surgical their approach is; Leaving them the go-to unit for secret-squirrel actions ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole ) and essentially a SEK to be depolyed internationally.

That is to say, there were still Army SF operators during the Kunduz Bombing (Task Force 47) in Afghanistan without explicit knowledge of the parliament. Overall, the distinction between GSG9 and Army SF is a difficult line to draw.

>>34055394
a solution that will solve the problem once and for all. a final solution, if you will

>>34045216

Yep. They did have the standard firearms blokes out with the 516's in London today though, friend of mine is there and took a picture.

Well, he took a picture of every policeman with a gun he could see DESU.

>>34046686
For tear gas and salt shot, obviously.

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>>34046110
Sledge is garbage tier, literally a discount Buck.

tbqh Montagne is the best attacker by far.

You know what you're doing, you'll win with a half decent team.

>>34055486
We could be having a paradise on earth living like gods, instead we straddle ourselves with 3rd world parasites. Man... what's it about the western man that he feels this urge to help others by gambling away his future? Pathological altruism? Sense of guilt over unbearable lightness of being excellent at everything? I feel like the only sane person in an asylum. Or maybe I'm completely insane and this is howits suppose to be through some cruel cosmic joke

>>34053651

cry more faggot

>>34055612
Uh

This is the weapons board, right?

>>34046427
You'll serve 19 years hard labor, and be on probation for the rest of your life! You'll wear a badge of shame, and you must follow your itinerary.

>>34055612
Do you know where you are?

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>>34053674
Yes, because you can't into google?
You just come here and post some bullshit about some subjectively perceived "media narrative" that has nothing to do with action taken by security services. And that's after calling the people that actually know what their doing "retarded" because in your opinion the immediate aftermath of a terror attack by a new cell is not a good time to heighten security measures.
You are everything that is wrong with the internet body, conspiracy theory know it all neck-beards. There is nothing worse than an idiot that thinks of himself as above average smart.

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>>34045118
kek

still can't believe the krauts kiked a bunch of euromemes with that piece of shit memerifle

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>>34046457
It's images like this that make me want to invest in 338LM.

Or buy some of those ellusive 7.62 ap rounds online and load them into 300WM

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>>34045530
I've been in London for a few days and can tell you that seeing the police with guns just makes me feel so much more safe than the noguns police up in Liverpool. I've always thought brittains law enforcement not having lethal weapons is the stupidest shit. No one takes them serious otherwise, scums got no reason to abide by them if there's no threat.

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>>34047711
Seen a bunch of MP5s, G36, AR and MP7 around London

>>34046383

I like how they each have a number patch instead of a nametag.

>>34055870

I don't know for sure what that top picture is, but that bottom picture is clearly a polymer AR-15 lower.

>>34046127
So if something happens they have to flip up their back up sights. Good job

>>34055471
That's interesting, thanks for taking the time to write it out. It kinda corroborates my original thought, which was that the GSG9, being fundamentally operationally similar to the SEKs but with a wider scope, are indeed comparable to UK CTSFOs, albeit far more secretive, and as I said before, with capabilities that allow them to take the same fundamental skill set that is shared between the two units, and apply it in a wider range of environments.

I'm interested by this bit though:
>Overall, the distinction between GSG9 and Army SF is a difficult line to draw.
Even though GSG9 are easier to deploy on low profile operations than Army SF, wouldn't it still be fair to say that there's a sharp distinction in terms of their capabilities (again, I stress capabilities, and not abilities), role, and procedures? GSG9 can be used for reconnaissance/observation, hostage rescue, and counter terrorism assaults abroad under secretive circumstances, but Army SF can do that plus the full complement of warfighting capabilities, which GSG9 obviously don't share. I mean, when GSG9 are deployed abroad, it's going to be to respond to small scale, isolated incidents of a criminal/terrorist nature. Whereas Army SF may be deploying to active warzones or hostile countries.

>>34054411
That sweet PM12, always present.

Also checked

>>34052256
That's the MDP, the MoD Police.

>>34052393
Why the fuck would police have use for full auto?

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>>34056624
When stressing the underlying difference between the ability to perform a certain task as opposed to being capable to perform a certain task (which is subject to, in this case, governmental resources such as supporting manpower, logistics, fire support) then yes, you have it on the money.

GSG9 still deploys to warzones or hostile countries. Their role in Iraq was not an offensive one though, they were essentially a close protection team that got hit by an IED - for which the insurgents even apologized afterwards. Close Protection Teams for high-risk-countries are now a unit in itself and is not done by the GSG9 anymore in order to free their capacities for more important stuff. CPTs by federal police are now known as ASSIK or SIK, meaning Schutzaufgaben in Krisengebieten (literally: Protective tasks in areas of crisis). They're essentially personal security details for German Diplomats. They have comparable equipemnt to GSG9 and are trained by them and some of their operators are former members of GSG9, but there is a clear distinction between them.Here's a non-official vidoe about them (dat moto doe): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0jAk0vpjNk

>>34045118
In Colombia the police generally carry galils during major events like elections alongside their usual sig pistols. The other day a governor was being escorted by a police detail with tavors with meprolights. The antikidnapping sf units are upgrading from standard galils to galil aces.

>>34045152

And then a white guy from bumfuck America decides to join the rallying call and joins ISIS. Are you going to nuke Bumfuck America ?

>>34045118
WHY DO EURO COPS ALWAYS WEAR THOSE FACEMASKS

>>34045374
>Under Armour boots
theyre quite comfy actually

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>>34058821
So kebabs don't know who they are so they can't cut their head off on their way home later.

>>34045118
When I flew out of Heathrow back to murrica I saw a gorgeous police girl with an m4 standing guard. I really regret not asking if I could get a picture. She was in full gear pretty much exactly like your pic.

>>34053995

It may be that these pictures were taken before OP TEMPERER was started. Therefore any military had to be attached to the SFO units.

>>34054782

I do believe they train air insertion and waterborn ops.

>>34045118
This guy is DYEL as fuck

I thought operators were supposed to be fit

>>34046383
>my feet hurt
>28 is behind me - i don't like 28
>check'em patronenauswurffenster
>getting real tired of all that trigger discipline
>how to fold rifle again? sanitöter won't tell me
>and how does that fucker get punchout gloves?
>tfw manlet with small hands
>i wish i was home and beating up g7 protesters

>>34046383
>that cute G36k folded on the right
Guard, where are you?

>I will never own a G36c
Why did I even get into guns?

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>>34056418
I lived in the Philippines all my life.

I honestly do not feel anything if the police are heavily/lightly armed.

And neither do criminals kek.

>>34046292
And Islam is a religion of peace

>>34055871
I think there is an AR-10 chambered in .300WM available.

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>>34055871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asBjqOx1txY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1aH9VEpsU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvaKNXGTnSA

>>34045618
What is a submachine gun? Is that some kind of assault rifle?

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>>34046546
sounds more like a 4U song to me.

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>>34053669
>>34061992
Is it just me or has summer arrived a month earlier?

Constant military patrols of the streets and weekly terrorist attacks is a small price to pay for the "cultural enrichment" of non-whites!

They are also massive drains on our economies, while ethnically cleansing us out of our cities

What a bold progressive world we live in

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Being the Fuddiest """"large"""" city in Minnesota means our cops just bring their AR15's along.

Here's the SCPD using, what appears to me at least, their personal AR15s.

>>34045171
kek

>>34053651
you can own a 20mm, dumbshit

>>34056445
only MoD police have MP7s and they're MP7-SFs

>>34045118
>even the "armed" British police have only a half a magazine riding in a Kraut kannon
Warum ist das so?

>>34055394
Obviously Islamic terrorism is going to continue forever until there are no Muslims in the West.

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Did somebody said... heavy equipment?

>>34045216
The grey suits are CTFSO, the actual equivalent of GSG9 not OP's picture which is a regular firearms officer

>>34062058
Quit misappropriating memes

AR15=\=Fudd

>>34053115
Could someone identify the patches on their arms?

>>34045118
What will it matter. The Brits are so cucked it's gone from hilarious to sad. Fucking faggots.

>>34047753
don't fuck with gas-mask-ski-mask at the front, he's clearly going to be arresting the shit out of people
look at all those handcuffs

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>>34046515
>>34046383
>>34046127
>>34045415
>>34046650
While every european country is filling the streets with special forces troops
We just send 2 to hang around every major centers and fuck around with people

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>>34045118
usually just m16's that civillans don't get accsess to.

UK has it wrong. sheeple can't own guns and you keep them all in line by sending a bunch of cronies with H&K g36's to keep them in line

reminds me of a movie

>>34062561
now what are you on about mate?

i'm manchester police tough guy, we raided with the SAS this morning mate

how many hours of CS:go do you even have mate, mandatory training in CS:go simulation in the UK mate i got high kill to death ratio mate

im expert raider mate unlocked all skins

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>>34045118
In Finland, the police has access to military resources if needed.

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>>34062678
Police bought 10 of this sexy thing.

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>>34062669
>mate
Kys, but not before you speak to your local Imam.

>>34062703
>implying you aren't all retarded chav's

>implying soccer hooligans aren't the pinnacle of the intellectual zeitgeist in England

>>34062506
Paras and Irish Guards mostly

>>34062506
Blue square is 2nd battalion parachute regiment, also identifiable by their unique maroon beret.

Blue red blue is Guards Division. So the people in red tunics with bearskin hats you see outside Buckingham. Capbadge indicates they're Scots or Irish. I'm feeling Scots.

Black fella is Royal Logistics.

>>34062561
>t. 60%

>>34046033
No, you can get it, you can only use metal slugs in it though, no HESH rounds etc...

>>34055870
iirc the g36 issues only happen on the bundeswehr version because the state cheaped out and only after several magazines of full-auto

>>34062984
Why the fuck would you use Paras as glorified security guards? Why not exclusively use the Guards regiments, given that what the Army are being deployed to do is exactly what Guards regiments spend half the year doing anyway? Less chance of a Guardsman who's used to mouthy Londoners getting an itchy trigger finger and causing a national incident by shooting some feisty Arab kid.

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>>34045171
>>police are armed and around more often
>>'well i feel better and safer!'

What's not so funny is I have heard a Britfag say he actually feels more uncomfortable with armed police around the subways than unarmed police. Because guns are scary!

>>34045940
I always love those arguments of US Police "Militarization" Especially when they try to use Europe as some shining example of how Police should be.

Even though European countries have police that are literally a branch of the Military. I.E the Gendarmerie nationale of France or even the Guardia di Finanza of Italy. Both fully fledged Police services but are Military ran.

In Britain we've had Gendarmerie services (in all but name however) like the Royal Irish Constabulary and and many other overseas territories we held.

>>34045152
>What the fuck are they going to achieve parading around with their little rifles?
Intimidation of the population so they don't speak out publicly about the Islamic immigration problems.

They deploy police with military equipment so the EDL doesn't tell people they don't have to accept the current state of affairs.

>>34063473
Well, the Met Police will shoot you in the head seven times for trying to get to work on time. Don't judge people's opinions if you can't understand them. There's a big difference between "I don't like police officers walking around with guns" and "I don't like THESE police officers walking around with guns".

>>34045152
makes the people "feel safe"

people are panicky and stupid

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>>34063522

> There's a big difference between "I don't like police officers walking around with guns"

Except, that was his entire point.

It was specifically a conversation about unarmed British police vs. armed police in the US. He said nothing of metro police being worse than other types. On the contrary, his assertion was that the fact bong cops were unarmed made them more effective and so he felt safer with unarmed police around him.

So don't judge people's opinions if you can't understand them.

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>>34045118
>after a bomb attack

>>34061783
Live in a place where the police have no guns. It's scary knowing it'd take an hour and a half of civilian bloodshed in a crowded area because any form of useful Police show up.

>>34064339
*before any form

>>34064339
>It's scary knowing it'd take an hour and a half of civilian bloodshed in a crowded area because any form of useful Police show up.
That "issue" is easily tackled: arm yourself at home and - if the law allows it/if you feel lucky - in public.

>>34063429
Because the paras are the reaction force. It's their job to be deployed immediately even if it's in their back garden

Up to 5000 troops are supposed to be deployed. The guards are only 4 Bns so not enough manpower to do it from the Guards exclusively

>>34045585
there is a difference between a SWAT team, which only engages in specific actions, and law enforcement being actual military like Gendarmerie's. US Police being militarized is a fucking meme.

>>34064403
But in England they don't. So what now?

I feel safe when i walk my town city centre because there are big guys with beards and/or staches and pm12s in front of important buildings and banks and MPs in front of court,
I also see private security firms walking around with 92fs and telling africans to fuck off or "else".
And of course the army guy and pretty girl with ar90s by the big church which contains a fresco depicting good ol muhammad,roastin in hell.

>>34063429
Lot of guards regiments are on exercise, Scots is currently the regiment on ceremonial duties, so their barracks QRF are out on patrol right now

Paras are army QRF. 2para especially, since they rarely ever go on exercises. It's like a 30-40 minute drive from their garrison to London. I'm willing to bet many drove their themselves

only bad thing a para would do is beat the brown fella senseless, with the constable nipping on his heels trying to get him to stop

>>34065073
At least if squaddies are taking over from plod at downing street there will not be any false accusations of them being called plebians.

However, there will be uproar on the BBC when a maroon buffoon inevitably calls a civvie a "fucking cunt"

>>34052949

Why do British police willingly specialise in dangerous things that require them to go through a lot of extra training? From what I can see, they do not get paid any more for it which seems absurd.

>>34065047
a/s/l?

>>34046275
>The army are now being used to support the police, PM just announced it : also threat level is now critical so another attack is expected.
What is expected is an ELECTION.

The army will stay on the street, with guns, until then. Precisely because of >>34054099 and >>34063473.

Everyone accepts that the soldiers are necessary even if they don't like them. They're useless of course but whatever, people will think that soldiers can stop suicide bombers or whatever. They could genuinely stop a knife spree if they're around but a terrorist would probably just need to walk away and choose a different kindergarten to stab up.

The real point is that people will be scared and scared people vote for the incumbent government. It worked for Bush when he was definitely going to lose, it worked for Thatcher when she became unpopular, it will probably work for May.

>>34063558
There are good reasons why a brit feels safer with unarmed police. Bad shit has happened.

>>34065162
Probably faster promotion rates in specialist firearms teams, by virtue of them being smaller. They may well get some extra pay too. I think most do it for the same reason some join the military (people in the UK don't join the military because of some misplaced sense of higher purpose, most do it because they have little else in the way of opportunity, but some do it because they like the prospect of a bit of adrenaline, and I suspect the same is true of some coppers who are bored of doing the beat).
>>34065246
Fucking this. Everything that's happening is a huge, huge overreaction for the purpose of the election. But nobody can call the government out on it without destroying their own (now already shattered) election chances. People in the UK are really fucking dumb, emotional, social media driven cretins, and if someone suggested that 5,000 soldiers might be a bit excessive after 'muh children are dead' then they'd be torn a new asshole and be eternally unelectable.

>>34055591
We imported these guys because the average white guy doesn't want to do the shit low paying jobs any more. You can only live like kings when there are enough peasants around to do the dirty work.

>>34062641
those are police (SWAT) you drooling spastic, not the same thing

>>34064420
Well that and the Guards are based around London. They're the closest Infantry Regiments there.

>>34065491
I doubt you know many working class people. They're desperate for any money they can get and will take any job as long as it pays enough to be literally worth their time. The idea that most working class people aren't White is also laughable. On a third note, those jobs wouldn't be nearly as low-paying if there wasn't a market of virtual slave labor in the form of migrants. Migrant labor only solves problems it creates.

>>34045118
My dick is diamonds. How do I get one of these in California? :v(

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Is this CTFSO?

>>34062654
Armed police generally don't do normal policing and won't give a shit if you're speeding etc.
They are there for call-ins, planned operations, and protecting the public.

>>34062901
> Paras

YES. Hopefully a shitskin takes a shot at them so we can have Bloody Sunday 2

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>>34046758

>>34045415
Is that a fucking tank? ACP? Jesus

>>34067989
Damn, that's some coverage there.

Is that right armour or something designed to be shot by snipers?

>>34054411
>carbonara's unit

>>34055871
You could make dandy (and sharp) rount penetrators from large diameter TIG welder tungstens.

>>34052152
>Terrible footwear aside, they've either got the wrong guy or he is a master of disguise.
Looks like a BLM protestor, maybe Freddie Gray incident?
He looks about right for that model, probably a college student from the age and dress.

>>34061259
I'm not positive but I think the lankette medic with the knuckle gloves is female. Just the eyes and face shape look it. If so then definitely a DFC.