how the fuck is anybody supposed to remember what half the

>get gun
>know what caliber the gunshoots
thats all you need to know

You're not. There are three relevant shotgun cartridges, about half a dozen relevant handgun cartridges, and about ten relevant rifle cartridges. Those are all you need to know about, really. You don't have to know the ballistics of everybody's favorite obscure, historical, or wildcat cartridge.

If you really want to know, buy a reloading manual. If you want to go full autismo, start studying ballistics.

By having a semi functional brain? There aren't THAT many popular rounds to memorize. Now knowing EVERY round ever made requires true autism.

Are you fucking low IQ?
Im pretty sure most people can tell the difference almost instantly

>>34041375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zrH8nn0kAc

>>34041375

you = noob

yes ?

after awhile those numbers are just burned into your brain

>>34041375
Dude, do you love this hobby or not?

You can remember the alphabet, the English language, typing and basic math but not a dozen or so cartridges that actually matter? It's pretty easy actually, especially when you consider how many of the cartridges have names to go with the caliber.

>>34041375
Own .270, know what .270 looks like. Am retard when it comes to other rounds.

>>34041408
>three relevant shotgun cartridges:
12g
20g
.410 bore

>half a dozen relevant handgun cartridges:
9mm
.45ACP
.357 Magnum
.40SW
.22LR
.380 ACP

>ten relevant rifle cartridges:
5.56/.223
5.45
7.62x39
7.62x51/.308
.50BMG
.338 Lapua Magnum
.30-06 Springfield
.300 Blackout
8mm Kurz
.22LR

What do you reckon /k/ would that cover most of the discussion here?

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>>34042686
>no 10mm

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>>34041375
>how the fuck is anybody supposed to remember what half the letters of the alphabet are

>>34041387
>>get gun
>>know what caliber the gunshoots
>thats all you need to know


>Buy MRI long cylinder .460S&W

.460
.454
.45LC
.410

>allthese_calibers.png

>>34042686
That mostly covers it. I'd maybe add:

.38 Special
.44 Magnum
7.62x54R
A few common hunting rifle calibers (.243, .270, .30-30)

These are still common enough cartridges that I think they deserve at least the same mention as Lapua, Blackout, and 8mm Kurz.

>>34042753
Only particularly relevant in places like Alaska.

>>34042686
>8mm kurz
>not 8x57

>>34041375
Read the bottom of the brass?

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>>34042686
>9mm
You didn't specify which, but I'm sure you meant the right one.

>>34041375
eh, you just sort of pick up on them.

what's actually hard is trying to remember what loadings are available for different rounds. how many grains is it? is there a jhp available? an otm? a hcfn? what's each type's penetration, expansion and cavitation look like? can your gun reliably cycle the preferred loading?

etc etc. a few cartridge names shouldnt be too hard.

>>34044666
>hcfn
the fuck is this
>otm
the fuck is this

>>34041408
Wrong.

> Relevant handgun cartridge
9x19mm Parabellum

> Relevant rifle cartridges
5.56x45mm
7.62x51mm

> Relevant shotgun cartridges
none

This is the reality. If you buy more than that, you are wasting your money on special snowflake guns and obsolete ammunition stashes. Money that could have been spent on ONE decent gun per caliber and a shit load of ammo to practice with and become actually a good shot.

>>34042686
Can we really call the .50 BMG a rifle round? I know there's a rifle that shoots it but it's more of a heavy machinegun round. Hell, they originally designed it as an anti-tank round.

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>>34044738
>hcfn

hard cast flat nose. a hard cast lead bullet with a relatively flat meplat. used for deep penetration in animal defense.

>otm

open tip match. sort of like a hollow point but not really. imagine a lead core that's got a relatively flat top. now stretch a copper jacket around it from the base of the bullet and draw it towards the tip such that you've got a spitzer...but the pointy bit is actually hollow brass with no core under it. pic related.

>>34044769
Its not a cannon round. Its not an artillery round.

Machine guns are rifles. Machine guns commonly take smaller calibers. Pistol caliber machine guns are typically called submachineguns. Intermediate is called an assault rifle.

Besides .50 bmg was an evolution on the 13.2mm Tuf round used for anti tank operations. .50bmg is a common anti material rifle round.

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>>34041375
how the fuck is anybody supposed to remember what half the kana are

>>34042686
>8mm Kurz
>relevant
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>>34041375
The only way you know is by using the firearm, and getting used to the different rounds by shooting them, or researching them yourself.
I read "Cartridges of the World" and know general trends in cartridges and can tell most people about what each section of the caliber means.
Although the wildcats and british cartridges are confusing, the europeans are probably the best at differentiating the calibers.
Us American calibers are easier to understand the bullet size, but some use acronyms and others are the company that pioneered it.

>>34044761
Why do noguns post here?

>>34044174
Hue hue hue hue.

>>34042686
>8mm Kurz
>relevant

7.62x54R is a far more relevant cartridge, and you neglected it.

>>34044915
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm a owner of an AR-15 and a Glock 19. That's all I need. I will never get, why people buy 5 guns, that all do the same. I could understand, why someone would by, like a service sized handgun and a sub-compact to CCW, but then again, a Glock 19 is right in the middle and good for both.

>>34041375
Not being a retard
/thread

>>34044074
Wow a whole 4 different calibers. I don't think I can remember that much.

Are you literally retarded?

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>>34044871
LEARN THE KANNA OR SHE'LL PUNCH YOU

>>34044982
Because some gun owners like guns.

>>34045078
I guess that's it. Some like it for the heck of it and some just see a tool to perform a certain task, like home defense.

But just like when someone collects all sorts of hammers, doesn't mean that they are actually relevant and that was the initial question.

A normal person should have one or two hammers at home. If you now start listing 25 additional hammers, from ancient stone hammers of the Egyptians to whatever hammers NASA uses, because you like hammers, good for you. But that doesn't mean they are relevant.

>>34041375
Read the box, or the headstamp.

>>34044174
Haha, no.

Slav 9mm in underpowered trash.

>>34044761
>Relevant shotgun cartridges
>none
Even the military uses 12 gauge shotguns for door breaching.

>>34044982
>Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm a owner of an AR-15 and a Glock 19.
Yeah, I'm not surprised one bit.

Anyhow, no, you'll probably never need those guns. The chances that you'll ever really use them on a human being are next to nothing. A country boy with a Henry .30-30 or a Mossberg 12 gauge who takes a couple of deer or wild hogs every season and makes meals out of what he shot has a far more practical use for his guns than you do.

>>34041375
Half the caliber is the radius.

>>34046295
>>Even the military uses 12 gauge shotguns for door breaching.
>Things you won't ever do


>>34046340
> Anyhow, no, you'll probably never need those guns. The chances that you'll ever really use them on a human being are next to nothing. A country boy with a Henry .30-30 or a Mossberg 12 gauge who takes a couple of deer or wild hogs every season and makes meals out of what he shot has a far more practical use for his guns than you do.

Point taken.

>>34042686
8 kurtz wasn't even relevant when it was in service, let alone now.

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>>34046538
>things you won't ever do
Maybe I want to break into some faggot's house to kill him and steal his Glock 19 and AR? Having a shotgun to breach the door nice and easy would be helpful for that.

30.06 bolt action rifle with scope
.45 1911 pistol
12 gauge shotgun.
All anyone needs.

>>34046538
I used a 12 guage in Iraq for crowd control, prisoner riots, breaching housing unit doors, and show of force.


It's very relevant.

>>34045112
Neither of your aforementioned are good for hunting anything but dogs. Caveat that fmj .223 can be an okay bunny round if you get up on it. But try shooting waterfowl with a rifle, instead of knocking it out of the sky with a shotgun.

So there's a large gap right there in your retarded theory.

>>34044792
Tell us more anon. Does OTP expand like a HP? How does it perform vs plastic tipped HP?

>>34042686
Study your fuddlore. The 16-gauge will always be the best shotgun.

>>34044761
Low effort.
You ont even deserve this extra (You)

>>34049516
nah, the 3"+ to 20 gauge fills it role, like what the same length did to 10 gauge

>>34044884
>>34044961
>>34046547

For the discussion he said, not in service. 8mm Kurz comes up a lot because of the never ending arguments over the StG 44.
For Mosins being as stereotypical /k/ as they are, I don't see discussion of the round itself come up all that often.

>>34042686
.380 should definitely be dropped in favor of the other 9mm, 10mm, .38SPL or 44Mag though.
Even 7.62×25mm Tok comes up more often than .380

>>34046232
ur mom was underpowered trash but i fixed that last night

>>34046538
>Even the military uses 12 gauge shotguns for door breaching.
>Things you won't ever do

Are you retarded? If its military discussion, its used for breaching and thus has a place.
If its civilian discussion, its used for hunting and thus has a place.

>>34041375
It comes after you realise that the vast majority of calibers are meme calibers at this point and even most of those are comparable to common calibers. Once you start to recognize rifles immediately, the calibers are easy enough.

>>34046631
Do you actually own a rifle in 74r? If so, what gun and for how much?

>>34049583
Literally no one gives a shit about 9×18. It's as relevant as .30 carbine. .380 acp on the other hand is still a fairly common defense round.

>>34049692
I carry a cz82 with buffalore bore +p cast lead. Small and comfortable, with much more pop than a .380

>>34049705
That doesn't make it a common or popular cartridge. I could carry my reproduction 1851 navy, that wouldn't make .44 caliber lead shot relevant.

>>34044761
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>34049798
Popular enough that I could find it an Gander and Cabela's. Plus, the original quote was
>literally no one gives a shit about

>>34045049
>Wow a whole 4 different calibers. I don't think I can remember that much.

So I proved the fucking point.

I have a single handgun that accommodates four different calibers. And I still have ZERO problem differentiating them.

Not to mention the piles and piles of what we know as .30 caliber rifle rounds from .30-30 and .30 carbine to .308 and 7.62x39 etc...


>t. didnt understand proof of concept

>>34041375
>puts sigshit near .357 Magnum and not .38 Special

The creator of that pic is a faggot.

>>34046631
>.350 Remington Magnum
I did not expect to see that. What a fun round.

>>34042686
>.300 Blackout
>8mm Kurz
>relevant

Sorry, no. Replace them with 30-30 and 8x57

>>34050322
Memeout is constantly talked about. You can't get people to shut up about it. And flamewars over the MP44 and "The First True Assault Rifle" never stop.

8mm Mauser and .30-30 are used more, but talked about less.

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>>34042686
>8mm Kurz

>>34042686

>8MM Kurz, 5.45

>relevant