>Buy brand new benchmade >Edge won't even cut paper

>>34035273
So sharpen it up yourself?
Almost every factory knife you buy is going to come with a much shittier edge than you can put on it yourself.

>>34035273
sharpen it yourself, i make my carbon knife so sharp, they split hairs
make a 13° to 15° double edge and you can be proud

>>34035323
>>34035372
I'm terrible at sharpening knives; let the old guy at BassPro do it instead. He got it much sharper than it came.

>>34035273
do you know why i know you are lying? i called them yesterday a month ago about my knife developing blade play. 6 bucks in shipping and a week out for warranty,i got it back looking brand new.

>>34035459
That contradicts nothing I said. Why did your blade develop play anyway?
It's ridiculous for a new $150 pocket knife to come dull. They did say I could send it back but they made a bunch of excuses too!

>>34035411
It takes some practice, but it's not rocket science.

>>34035493
I've had various knives come dull from the factory even when they're $150-$200 knives. It happens, and the best thing you need to know for knife care is how to hone and sharpen your own knives.

>>34035273
>Didn't test it's edge before purchasing
>Buying a $1-300 knife and not picking the best out of the brick and mortar inventory
>Not buying off Amazon and just fucking returning it if they give you a shitty product and reordering
>Not being able to sharpen a knife

Benchmade knives ship with a toothy edge that pops hairs. I've never seen one that can't. Maybe you're just retarded OP?

>>34035411
I'm one of those "old guys at basspro" and we hate idiots like you who whip out a butter knife dull pocket knife with a missing tip. Sure I fix it to better than new, but know that we're judging your lack of masculinity.

They should pay for shipping

Benchmades aren't any better than comparable spydercos

Other than that there's really nothing wrong with the company

>>34035459
>Doesn't own a torx set
Fucking numales

>knives

Other than opening up carboard boxes of more knives what do you guys use them for? I understand some people have a need for them, but I've never been in a situation where my keys/ my kitchen knife at home didn't suffice

>>34036051
They probably assume he's lieing after dulling it out "sharpening" it. And their life sharp program with 6 buck shipping has been going on forever.

>Spiderco
Shit design hamstringing an otherwise solid knife. If spiderco made a knife that wasn't wasn't a liner/midlock with a ring opener it would eclipse the rest of their product line instantly. Honestly if they made their basic bitch tenacious with a flipper it would be perfect.

>>34036067
>Why use a hammer when I can just drive these nails in with my dick.jpg
It's a tool. You feel naked without a knife if you frequently carry a knife.

>>34036108
Different lifestyles I suppose

Old keys works Bretty gud btw - never use a key you actually use to open something though - I have fucked myself proper doing shit like that

>>34036046
You hate the people that give your loser ass work?

>>34036151
Just the ones that are idiots like you kiddo. A buck a blade isn't exactly why the store is open, it's a value added service and a nice time waster for employees

Dad out of the picture?
Has to be, otherwise you'd know how to sharpen a knife.

>>34035273
>be the kind of faggot who buys benchmade or spyderco knives
>can't even sharpen a knife
Kill yourself.

>>34036215
>he works retail
hahaha

>>34035273
They're just shit at sharpening knives. They'll do it for free forever, but they're still shit even when you send it in.

Don't be a dick to support. Learn to sharpen your own knives.

>>34035273
slippery shit handle material on the barrage neway just return it imo

>>34036451
Indeed

This guy is a total faggot. Anyone who works at basspro and thinks he can pass judgment on someone else is delusional. Not too mention he's fucking old! Holy shit - he's had his whole life to choose a career path and Basspro was the best he could do!

Why don't you take your sharp buck knife and slice your wrinkly jowel from ear to ear you goddamn loser.

>>34036427
What's the problem? They're both good US-made brands?

What should we buy instead? Chinese Cold Steel? Walmart Gerber?

God I hate poorfags so fucking much.

>>34035273
if you're the guy i sold that mini barrage to yesterday all I can tell you is to learn how to sharpen your knife. We have a year long return policy, and we sell Benchmade sharpening kits.

If you're not that guy and that is in fact a regular barrage then just...learn how to sharpen a knife.

>>34035273
Sharpen it yourself. Fucking christ, how pathetic can one person be? This better be a troll post or else you are a pathetic retard mudding up the gene pool.

>>34036508
yeah because shilling for a non-poorfag knife really worked out for you faggot

>>34036699
Not OP. But please tell me what's wrong with spending $100 for a knife that's not made of dog food cans.

>>34036451
>Responds to himself
>Implying I'm one of the retirees and not one of the college students
>Getting this asshurt on a Mongolian puppet show forum
So did benchmade actually ship you a dull knife or did you try to sharpen it and fucked up the edge because mom's boyfriend never showed you how to use a sharpener during your formative years?

>>34036505
Jesus Christ anon. I know this is the internet and all but cool it on the edge.

>fite me irl faggot

>>34036716
>Not OP
>t. OP
Stop buying your knives off the shopping channel and you'll come to find there are a lot of $15-40 pocket knives with a good Ballance of edge retention and ergonomics. Gerber is shit now, but a buck or Kershaw isn't. I like the idea of benchmade and spiderco knives but the griptillian and tenacious both kind of fucking suck if you don't like those designs or their stylistic derivatives. For some reason those two won't make a normal thumb stud and flipper pocket knife and insist on making everything edgy (benchmade) or to pattern (spiderco)

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>>34036818
>>34036818
Nope, still not OP. There's just more than one person in here who thinks you're a poorfag with sour grapes.

I own many knives, including cheap ones. Some are quite underrated, but that doesn't mean the """expensive""" ones are pointless.

>>34036046
>but know that we're judging your lack of masculinity.
>scraping a knife against a brick is a sign of masculinity

>>34035323

All my cold steel knives have been shaving sharp.

>>34036923
I'm not the other guy who thinks you're a dumbass for supporting OPs tall tale about the factory dull benchmade he totally didn't fuck up with a carbide pullthrough cuck sharpener

>feels the need to prove he owns a moderately priced pocket knife
no one cares. spiderco still is simply a brand someone who doesn't like their one style of knife won't buy
>2017
>a fucking midlock
yet another example of how spyderco needs to get their shit together and design a better knife.
>>34036956
>not being able to support yourself
>a man
choose one
>can't complete a simple fucking task like putting a paper cutting edge on a pocket knife.
Sharpening a knife is a cathartic activity and a basic fucking skill.

>>34035273

...buying an expensive knoife is retarded. Admit it, knives are almost always lost before they break from wear.

A knife you aren't willing to lose (like an heirloom or historical piece) is a knife you shouldn't be carrying around for use.

Treat a reasonably sturdy knife made from decent steel with care and it will last until it disappears, no matter the fancy meme brand etched on the blade.

>>34037014
Was just proving I'm not OP to put a halt to the poorfag dogpile. The cost of my knife has nothing to do with why I posted it.

And he's right by the way. Benchmade is shit at sharpening knives. Check product reviews and you'll see this complaint often.

Also both brands have many different models with many different locking mechanisms. You'd know that if you didn't buy all your gear from Walmart.

>>34037007
that isn't a high bar to match
"hair popping sharp" and push cutting are a lot harder to achieve than being able to cut hairs off your arm. Cold steel knives are overpriced or shitty (anything they make under $50 can't hold an edge worth shit. anything they make over $50 can similarly be had from another brand for less than $50/ ~75% of the price or less)
>>34037043
>bu...bu...bu... s....s....spiderco makes liner locks too ;_;

>>34035273
>spends hundreds of dollars on a pocket knife
>Can't even sharpen a knife

Confusing as fuck.

>>34037060
Yup just backlocks and liner locks. Let's just ignore the compression lock models like the PM2. Not like it's their most beloved knife ever or something. No need to think about their popular ball bearing lock models either.

This page is a figment of my imagination:

https://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/knife-anatomy/locking-mechanisms/

>>34037037
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EU8ML46/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

bought this guy and got it to the point that I could cut the unsupported corners off a sheet of paper
>from the front
keeps a pretty good hair popping edge for a long while
shipping edge was ok, but needed work. the kind of work anyone who isn't a numale should have no problem doing with stones or a belt grinder.

>>34037118
>a liner lock... but backwards whoa
>same blade profile and outward design as one of their $40 spydercos for 3x the price

so 3 linerlocks, 2 shitty midlocks, a springlock that is a midlock knife for cucked countries, and a benchmade ripoff. all with the same outward appearance, ergonomics, and edge profile. Spiderco is the Apple of knife companies.

CRKT would be Aliengear
>lots of crazy and cool looking designs
>gimmicks
>unaddressed problems on flagship products they simply ignore.

>>34035273
buy a sharpmaker and piss off.

>>34036508
There's nothing wrong with Spyderco and Benchmade is capable of making very good knives, but there is something wrong with spending $150 on a knife when you can't even keep it sharp. A dull $150 knife is just as bad as a dull $15 knife, except it reflects worse on you for not knowing how to allocate your resources.

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Curious if anyone has any experience with pic related--- it's obviously not tacticool, but they are dirt cheap and the blades are carbon steel and thus extremely easy to sharpen and hold an incredible edge. I know a lot of people insist on stainless for innawoods, but I've never had any issues with corrosion (I'm pretty good about cleaning and oiling the blades regularly though). I've got a few spyderco knives as well, but I've been carrying the Opinels lately since it's so much easier to maintain a hair popping edge.

>>34037043
I think they use a worksharp or something. They come back with a serviceable edge but they remove a ton of material in the process.

>>34037007
I bought one of their Kukris and it was dull.

>>34037182
What awesome locking mechanisms are they missing? Which poorfag brand does it better?

>>34037247
it's cheating but I spray a lot of my carbon steel knives with polyurethane wood sealer after a good degreasing. works like a fucking charm to keep fingerprints from turning into finger marks/active rust.

once it's cured it's pretty food safe too and won't spoil like olive oil or poison you like most low viscosity oils.
>>34037282
most likely a big ass ~1000 grit grinding wheel that they have an angle guide to pop the knife blank across. they aren't doing it podunk style with a worksharp m8, they're just putting the factory edge back on the thing. Benchmades always have a hair shaving but toothy edge. good for some things, not for others. you need to get stones or 5000+ grit synthetics plus a quality strop or paper wheel to make stuff stupid sharp
>>34037307
other brands tend to make more than one knife in 3 sizes
>but muh lawks

>>34037324
Sometimes I use a mix of beeswax and mineral oil --- I've got a big jar of it I use to seal my cutting boards, and a rag that is thoroughly impregnated with the stuff. If I just buff the blade with the rag it puts a thin, durable coat on it. I do the same thing with my carbon steel kitchen knives, which are pretty much all I use these days.

I used to get hard for super steels, but I find these days I'm more and more interested in high carbon blades...

>>34037324
Now we're talking about sizes? How many times are you going to move the goalposts?

>>34037354
>SIDF pretends spiderco makes more than one style of knife.jpg

we get it, you're a fanboy. that doesn't change the fact that every spiderco is a G10 handled zero grind drop point with a thumb ring.

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>>34036046
can u please tell me how to sharpen my knives? is it even possible to get a knife razor sharp with one of these combination knife sharpener things?

>>34037386
they work but the are small. just get a sharp maker, arkansas stone. I use that as a backpack sharpener.

>>34037324
Op here
Benchmade has a YouTube video showing exactly how they sharpen their knives and no, they're not consistently good.
https://youtu.be/r4KUTZgrKr0
>some dumbfuck without a guide who has been doing it for a whopping 3 years

Secondly, to everyone else, I can sharpen a knife I'm just terrible at it. What does terrible at it mean? It means I can get it good enough to cut paper but that's about it and people talking shit are probably equally bad it.

I expect a pocket knife in the benchmade price range to be scary sharp. My Presidio was. This was just poor workmanship from the factory and it makes me wonder about QC in general. Were they equally haphazard with the hardening process?
Do some research, a lot of their knives are shipping dull; unacceptable.

>>34035273
That edge does look like shit though. It doesn't look hand sharpened.

>>34037419
>some dumbfuck without a guide who has been doing it for a whopping 3 years
>needing a guide
>has never used a rotary buffer before
this is another one of those you should know this things.

>It means I can get it good enough to cut paper but that's about it
so is it a case of "I'm an idiot with a $200 knife and a $15 keychain pullthrough "sharpener"" or a case of "I have all the finest most over priced meme tools at the big box but not the dexterity or drive to actually learn how to use it"
>>34037386
not really. avoid smiths all together and most things you can find in a big box. the spyderco sharpmaker is a good set as long as you do what it says and watch the DVD. still never going to get a perfectly sharp edge without a strop of some sort.

get a medium and hard arkansas stone from dan's whetstone company , maybe also a black hard arkansas stone for final finishing, and a strop plus stropping compound. All in total about $50 worth of shit that will last for perpetuity. If you can hold a constant edge and do ~20-40 passes per side with each stone before a final few on the black hard arkansas and the same with the strop and you're g2g.

an old trick is to take a fat sharpie and black out the edge before you work. give it a few passes and see if you are at the same angle or too shallow/steep or just not uniform.

>>34037385
Except all the ones that aren't. Not one of your statements have been true, and it's somehow fanboyish to call you out on it?

We get it you work minimum wage retail and you're mad that people buy things you can't afford.

>>34037540
To answer your question, I don't have good knife sharpening tools.

>>34037558
spyderco makes one style of knife. deal with it. what that means to the majority of people who think spydercos look fucking stupid is that they don't buy them.
>>34037568
so why did you buy a benchmade without the tools necessary to keep and improve its edge. 154cm and s30v can only hold an edge for so long. you're on an anonymous japanese pornography repository, you can admit that the knife "couldn't cut paper" after you took it's factory edge off

>>34037623
It came new from the factory with an edge that struggled to cut paper.
I made no attempt to sharpen it.
I called benchmade and they made a bunch of excuses.
Why do you think it's acceptable for a knife in that price range to come dull?

>>34037666
Only your word as a petulant manchild is backing up the claim that a knife you had the opportunity to look at, handle, and chose to buy came butter knife dull Satan.

you called benchmade and they told you about the "lifetime sharp" guarentee where you pay 6 bucks and they unbubba your pocket knife.

I get the feeling you frequently have massive unsolvable conflicts with people/companies/products who are always in the wrong and out to get you.

>>34036046

I'm one of those "Doctors" that judge you everytime your fat unhealthy disgusting double digit I.Q. blue collar ass walks in the doctors office because you can't handle your diabetes.

We judge you all the time for your peasant tier life and intelligence.

>>34037750
the number of insecure "modern males" on /k/ who can't use a whetstone breaking down over that post would be funny if it didn't mean this board is getting flooded by a bunch of no gunz faggots from reddit

>>34037623
Except that's false. They look the same because they have a thumb hole, not because they're all the same style.

Why are you so retarded? Why do you just keep pulling shit out of your ass? Every thing you've said so far can be refuted in 10 seconds if google searching.

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>>34037014
>no one cares. spiderco still is simply a brand someone who doesn't like their one style of knife won't buy

Then they're missing out, because Spyderco's quality blows away any comparable manufacturer. I'm not a fan of midlocks or the Spyderhole myself, but I love my Delica, use it often despite owning much more expensive knives, and recommend it when anybody asks for advice.

I'll back up the contention that Benchmade sucks at sharpening knives, too. I've owned half a dozen or so and none of them have ever come with an edge that could match the Delica, not even my $300 484-1.

Pic mostly just so you know I'm not some one knife poorfag defending his purchase or whatever.

Also FWIW I use a Lansky, a Sharpmaker, and a strop on my knives, and have been able to put good edges on all of my BMs, but it was way more work than it should've been for what they cost.

>>34037666
>Why do you think it's acceptable for a knife in that price range to come dull?
My dude, if you buy an expensive guitar you still have to tune it, I cannot help but feel that you should just learn to sharpen and hone knives correctly. And yes, you absolutely need the proper tools, but much of it is skill. You are likely to dull several knives before you really get the hang of it. I'd recommend picking up one of the Opinel knives I mentioned above--- they run less than 15 dollars on Amazon, and have carbon steel blades that are very easy to sharpen, so they'd be good practice without ruining your benchmade.

Regarding sharpening tools--- the anon above recommending arkansas stones is on point, that's not a bad way to go. I'm pretty partial to japanese water stones, you can get a 3k/6k combo for less than 50 bucks. I don't use a strop for anything but my straight razors, however, I would definitely recommend a honing steel.

Watch a bunch of youtube videos and read on the various forums to learn sharpening/honing, it's an extremely useful skill for any /k/ommando.

ADVANCED TECHNIQUE: I've had a lot of luck lately sharpening with lapping film--- the particle size gets down to .3 micrometer diamond film, which is much, much higher grit than you can get elsewhere. The edge is absurdly polished and will cut freestanding hairs with ease. It's probably overkill for anything except a straight razor though...

>>34036147
I do this when I'm in a situation where whipping out a knife can result in getting fired

>>34037776

I wasn't one of those nu-males. I can use a knife sharpener hence why I'm in this thread.

It's just insecure "men" like you who are literally bottom tier in almost every way hang on to the dumbest things to prove your masculinity, I guess I'd be the same way if that's all I had. That's sad.

What's even more sad. Is that I can always say something that can invalidate your masculinity that you'd have to agree by your logic.

>not knowing how to fight
>not having served in the special forces
>not being able to hit a paper plate past 1000 yards
>not having a 9+ inch dick

Guess you're not masculine.
>

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>>34037793

You completely dodged his question. Whether OP can or can't sharpen that knife isn't the issue you fucking stupid cretins with the intelligence of a pavement ape.

The issue is he shouldn't have a knife come dull, especially when it's already an over priced shitmade

>>34037905
>being this assblasted
It's just that reasonable people expect to do things like e.g. sharpen a new knife since factory edges are NEVER EVER EVER as good as what you can do yourself. However, since /k/, like the other anonymous cambodian handjob technique forums on this site, is being overrun by entitled faget numale millenials who are completely incapable of wiping their own asses, I shouldn't be surprised that helpless entitled man children complain that they have to use their own hands to get something done for once.

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>>34035273
Next time just buy something that isn't shit.
The fact of the matter is a quality product should come in a quality form; you should not be expected to make the product quality yourself. If the knife is of high quality, it should come sharp.

>>34037791

Absolutely agreed. Benchmade is over priced by a lot. Some people say it's because they're also selling you a lifetime warranty but I'm not the type to send stuff for repair to the manufactures so I'm skipping Benchmade.

There's only one Benchmade knife I'm interested in. And its purely for aesthetic reasons. Otherwise as you said, the Spyderco delica 4 is the best quality for your money knife out there.

Though I won't lie the paramilitary 2 is my absolute favorite.

>>34037882
thats a lot of projecting buddy, but who am I to judge a doctor who works for nintendo
>>34037905
the issue is that a 12 year old with an oilstone and a belt could get a benchmade shaving sharp and that OP probably just doesn't grok that sharp is sharp and a $200 knife isn't going to be 75% more knife for your knife while you knife than a $50 knife due to the law of diminishing returns.

The edge on a spyderco and literally all production knives is by default unacceptable since I personally can get and expect a knife to be much sharper. The toothy edge on OPs _________ not cutting through paper like a thousand times folded nippon katana without mirror polishing that sucker and giving it a much more severe secondary bevel is a problem between OPs expectations and OPs lack of ability. Simply using a tuning steel or strop would have solved probably 90% of his problem if he wants to cut paper. to push cut through paper he needs to git gud and have dropped that dosh on some sharpening stones not found at dicks sporting goods.

>>34037935

No one is debating that they should know how to sharpen a knife. They should know how. The issue is he's paying 200 bucks for a knife to come dull. The manufacturer is completely responsible for that. How can you not understand something that simple?

I sharpen my knives and I'd be pretty pissed if I spent 200 hard earned dollars, on a knife that came dull. Whether OP is a nu-male or not, it doesnt matter, that's your own ironic and hypocritical nu-male emotional feminine argument against him, but not against his message.

His message is legit. That's like me buying a brand new 200k Porsche and then having to stitch the seats.

At least OP learned not to buy benchmade

>>34037975

No matter how much you want to make this a "manly vs not manly" illogical argument.

The fact remains. If you spend 200 dollars on a knife. It better come sharp. Or else fuck that shitty manufacturer

>>34037975

Nice argument idiot. I'm glad you got a taste of your own medicine though

>>34038000
>His message is legit. That's like me buying a brand new 200k Porsche and then having to stitch the seats.
It's really not--- that would be like having to re-pin the knife. This is more like having to go to the gas station and fill it up, because that's about the amount of time it would take to sharpen that knife to a hair popping edge.

Another thing to consider--- even blades that come "shave sharp" from the factory are toothy as all fuck. Take a look at some micrographs of a disposable razor blade some time--- the grinding they do is shit/10 and gives you an ugly rough edge. The toothy edge is what you perceive is "sharp". Basically I couldn't give a shit if the knife couldn't cut butter from the factory since I'm going to have to sharpen it anyway, I'm paying for a) the quality of steel b) the ergonomics c) the quality of assembly. If you disagree and prefer to pay a premium for a "sharper" factory edge, then buy something different--- I'm probably still going to get a sensible chuckle since you're apparently incapable of maintaining your own edges.

>>34038000
>At least OP learned not to buy benchmade
Indeed, the free market works.

>>34037905
Thanks, that's all I'm saying.

>>34037940
name a knife with a factory edge you consider an acceptable level of sharpness so we can call you retarded

I don't care the brand, they all do the same thing with the same style of wheels. you aren't getting a truly sharp knife without knowing how to sharpen a knife. Usually you aren't even getting an acceptable edge bevel. spyderco is just as shit at this.
>>34038000
OPs definition of dull is "it had a hard time cutting paper"
which meant it cut paper
OP probably just is fucking stupid and doesn't understand why that knife costs $200.
>protip: not for it's factory edge

If anything I wish these companies DID sell a version of their knives completely dull so I could put my own edge/edge angle on it without having to fix/remove theirs.
>>34038015
there is literally not a major or even small production manufacturer or knives that has a passable factory edge. when you run a fingernail down the edge of a knife it should feel like running it along a sheet of glass. if it's REALLY sharp it will start cutting through the keratin while still having absolutely no resistance.
>>34038025
>tfw it's only 8.9"

>>34038066
Op here, my Presidio I bought years back came absolutely scary sharp, sharper than I even thought you could get a knife. It's a big part of why I bought this one. I expected something at least kind of close to that. I can put a better edge on a knife than this one came with.

>>34038066
>If anything I wish these companies DID sell a version of their knives completely dull so I could put my own edge/edge angle on it without having to fix/remove theirs.
This 1000x

>>34038066
>there is literally not a major or even small production manufacturer or knives that has a passable factory edge. when you run a fingernail down the edge of a knife it should feel like running it along a sheet of glass. if it's REALLY sharp it will start cutting through the keratin while still having absolutely no resistance.
I'm beginning to think most of the assblasting in this thread is due to the fact that most anons have never actually held a truly sharp knife.

>>34038084
I've also bought crkt knives that came much sharper btw.

>>34038084
Pluck a hair from your head. Hold the hair from the tip, so that the root is away from your fingers. Hold the knife edge facing up, and slightly away from your fingers. Don't move the knife, just move your fingers down so that the hair comes into contact with the blade. It should bisect quietly and with no effort--- this is "truly sharp" and no factory edge I've ever seen comes close.

>>34035323
yeah but BM puts a notibly shittier edge on their knives which for the price is kinda dumb. Hard to sell dull knives. The 458 i bought had like a 50 degree or better inclusive edge plus it couldnt hold a center while being loose enough for the axis lock to work letting the blade fly free.

BM qc has gone down hill and its trend they dont seem to care about stopping

>>34036036
This is where I am at as well. I have bought at least 15 benchmade knives (I like to give then as gifts) and every one has shipped sharp as fuck.

>>34038103
funny, because CRKT has a dogshit factory edge on all thier pocket knives and a stupidly thick edge bevel. I spent about an hour making a s.p.e.w. worth carrying

I think you're just not understanding what makes a benchmade or an upper end spyderco or what have you it's price
>fit&finish
>tightness and lack of blade play
>smooth as fuck lock/blade deployment
>blade steel (IE edge retention and corrosion resistance)
>the ABILITY to hold an obscenely sharp edge for a long amount of time.

you're comparing a toothy knife to what most likely was a toothier knife that you PERCEIVED as sharper as you ran your finger across it's rough as fuck edge. A really sharp knife should feel like nothing when you run your finger across it or your nail down it. then you're push cutting through a foot of receipt paper and cutting business cards in half from the front.

>>34035273
>Tfw only buy $20 gerbers
>Never had an issue with quality and even if I did it's 20 damn dollars who cares
>Don't have to worry about damaging or losing it because $20 who cares

It's a tool OP, you've made the mistake of putting too much money and care into it. Now it doesn't even serve its purpose. Are you worried if you sharpen it you'll take material off the blade or something? Just sharpen it.

>>34037385
I've never seen a Spyderco with a thumbring? What's a thumbring?
And I've seen quite a few designs and blade shapes from them. They all have the hole but a hole =/= same blade shape.

QTDDIOT: Is it advisable to sharpen knives with a rolling iron?

>>34035323
My Ontario came with an edge so well done I was shaving with it for shits and giggles. After 4 months of use, I touched it up and it still cuts paper.

Benchmade has gone to shit.

>>34038290
I have a $20 ganzo knife, are name brand knives that much better? I know in the flashlight world there are very good bang for buck lights, does the same exist for knives?

>>34036147
But what will you attack Tyron with after he takes your car keys besides a boipus?

>>34038386
sharpening steels don't actually sharpen the knife, it tunes the edge. It has to already be sharp.

waterstones
oilstones
belt sharpening system
diamond wheel

strop or steel or paper wheel/mechanized strop

choose one from the top you prefer and one from the bottom. oilstones are going to be the cheapest and longest lasting; a chunk of medium, hard, and clear or black hard arkansas and a strop are what your granpappy and your granpappies granpappy used and it still works today.

the belt systems (either for your belt grinder or a worksharp) are good but if you don't know what the fuck you are doing you'll ruin your knives. same for abrasive wheels for a table mounted buffer.

>>34038423
Yup. You really start to hit diminishing returns north for 100$ though(imo)

>>34037386
In my opinion, the best way for a beginner to learn to freehand sharpen is buy buying a cheap knife to practice on, buying a Norton India IB8 combination coarse/fine oilstone, buying some light mineral oil, and practicing what you see in this video until you can reliably reproduce the level of sharpness obtained at the end of the video:

https://youtu.be/cWU_qTp3DLM

>>34037623
>spyderco makes one style of knife. deal with it. what that means to the majority of people who think spydercos look fucking stupid is that they don't buy them.
>Look fucking stupid
>Look
Do you pick your hammers based on how they look, too? How about your shovels? No? Maybe you should consider buying the best tool for the job rather than the most aesthetically pleasing.

>>34035273

Learn to sharpen, not hard to do, you can buy a pos Gerber to practice on too.

ITT: people being salty over shitty overpriced pieces of steel when they could have 90% of their real life needs covered by some Opinel or similar priced knife

when this fucking "muh supa durable expensive knive u poorfag" meme will ever end

>>34037666
Life aint fair snowflake.

Knives are tools, meant to be used and resharpened many times. If you bought it as a status symbol..... kys.

>>34037247
I keep one at work. Mostly because it looks like a cheese knife or something and no one seems to mind when I use it to slice up my lunch.

Sharp as fuck, not that I work it too hard. It's blade is very thin though, and it feels like it wouldn't take much to snap it.

>>34037297
Kukris are for choppy

>>34036067
that's really just about all i use em for.
i like knives a lot, but i rarely have the need to use one

>>34038119
this seems excessive.

does everyone need their pocket knives for shaving or something?

>>34040103
a tool that comes at a premium shouldn't be useless out of the box.

>>34036761
>"im one of those old guys"
>no guys I'm totally just a college kid who still couldn't get a better job to pay for my women's studies degree

>>34038038
I'd say it'd be like if the Porsche came on shitty economy car tires.

Personally I can deal with a dull knife if that's all it is, but what gets me is badly ground knives, and I've seen quite a few from Benchmade. I can sharpen a knife in a few minutes with a Sharpmaker, but a bad grind means hours of work with stones or a Lansky, especially with "supersteels."

I'm seriously considering an Edgepro or Wicked Edge or something, shame they're so damn expensive.

>>34038066
>name a knife with a factory edge you consider an acceptable level of sharpness so we can call you retarded

Delica. Mine push cut notebook paper and shaved like a razor straight out of the box. Maybe I got lucky with it though. I also just picked up a Kershaw Emerson earlier today and it's surprisingly good out of the box, including a really nice even grind. (Which is funny since ZT has such a rep for bad grinds.)

On the flip side, my Sebenza's factory edge sucked, and I still haven't gotten it where I like it. I'm kind of afraid to put my Lansky on such an expensive knife, but I'm not making any progress with the Sharpmaker and strop, I may give in and have it professionally sharpened.

>>34041367
why did u buy so many knives? you only need one

>>34036046
I know how to sharpen a knife, I honestly just fucking hate doing it. I have to sharpen all of my work knives. I really don't want to do it so I'll just take my knives to bass pro.

/k/ is fucking retarded.
My shitty $15 ganzo came razor sharp. An overpriced $200 shitmade came dull and somehow it's the buyer's fault. lmao.

>>34041651
how much does it cost at bass pro

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>>34041742
it's to give the buyer the option of selecting the angle of the blade. the really high priced designer knives come with no edge at all to give the buyer full freedom

>>34041852
>He's so poor he has to sharpen his knives rather than just throwing them out when they get dull and buying a new one

>>34041604
It's somewhere between a hobby and an addiction. There's always another cool knife to lust after or something interesting to impulse buy.

>>34036046
>i'm judging your lack of masculinity
>but i'm old man that made so many poor life choices that he has to sharpen knives at a fucking bass pro shop

>>34036057
Do you unironically think tightening a screw is all you have to do to fix your lockup?

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Cold Steel has actually gotten good again in the last couple years.

>>34035273
>I'm going to make up a story where I'm the tough guy
The thread

I've never seen one autistic fag say "toothy" so many times. Learn a second word you inarticulate retard.

>>34042101
kek

>>34041651
your comment is retarded and untrue

>>34040103
>snowflake

Way to make yourself sound like a massive fag anon.

Proud of u

>>34038066
MY Svord 6" Bowie came nice and sharp. Not as good as I got it but good enough

>>34042043
Do you unironically also not have locktite in your manpurse?

>>34043555
My peasants too. I have multiple, but the little one with copper/brass handles is my favorite. My brother gives me shit for buying such a small knife for 30 bucks but I don't care

>>34040647
The level of assblasting that one comment has caused for all you numales is amazing. Feels good to have had a dad.

>>34036046
lol

>>34036046
lol all the butthurt this post caused....

>>34042326
>Unintentionally complimenting OP.
Thanks buddy

>>34036491
>They're just shit at sharpening knives

More like the guy they have doing isn't allowed to take the time he has to to get a good edge on them. If he's too slow he'll probably be fired and some other schmuck will get paid $10/hour to do it instead.

>>34043967
This
>Benchmade quality
Not only that the only guy who does QC on the edge is the sharpening it. So there is no QC check or accountability other than to tediously crank out as many over priced knives in a day as he has to in order to avoid getting in trouble.

>>34035273
Are you this fucking lazy that you can't use a sharpening stone fuck off

>>34041966

Couldn't have said it better myself

>>34045094

It's not about laziness idiot. It's about paying 200 plus dollars on a knife just to have it come unsharpened

>>34035273
benchmade is overrated and overpriced

If it's not hair popping sharp (which is two swipes on a 320 grit grinder) from the factory I doubt there's even a factory involved.

50 dollar clones from aliexpress comes sharper with confirmed quality D2 steel and stellar tolerances.

Only 10 dollar clones comes with botched edges and this is truly the bottom of the bin. They are produced in temporary shops setup in concrete high riser apartment buildings, cheapest roof over the head you can find, near a source of farmers without a job. Blades in the box a stone grinder on the table and off they go.

>>34045869
>paying 200 plus dollars on a knife

That's fucking retarded in the first place.

>>34048868
if you're a poorfag, yes.
u mad?
you seem mad

>>34048905
I'm not the one sperging out about a knife not being sharp.

>>34035273
>"Sir, who knows how long the retailer had it."

knifes don't just get dull over time

fake and ghey
this is just bait you fagets

>>34035323
Every Kershaw I've bought has a better edge than I could put on it.

>>34048911
i know, you're sperging out about the cost and about being a poorfag and now you're trying to change the subject
kys

>>34048986
Haha okay buddy

>u mad?

>>34045094
this

OP is a lazy faggot

>>34035273
Post a pic of ur Ford

>>34036046
fuck off and do your job like a good dog

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>>34036427

>be the kind of faggot who buys benchmade or spyderco knives

this.

>>34036818
Good knives have blades made in Seki.

There are lots of good budget knives.
There are even lots of good budget knives with blades made of good steels.

There are no budget knives with blades made in Seki.

There are plenty of good budget knives with blades made in Taiwan.

IF you aren't going to buy a knife with a blade made in Seki, don't settle for anything less than Taiwan.

Don't buy knives with blades made in "China".

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>>34050172
...okay

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BWAHAHAHAHA

>>34035273
Sharpen you're own damn knife you nance.

>>34036108
>It's a tool. You feel naked without a knife if you frequently carry a knife.
This, especially since I use my knife to cover up a tear in my pants. Gets drafty without it.

>>34035504
This.
And when he says it takes practice, that means you just do it a couple hundred times until it sticks. You'd be hard pressed to ruin the knife from sharpening.

Sharpen the ENTIRE length of the cutting edge - a common mistake is to only touch either side of the blade in the same place, and then go "But i sharbbemed id, y it not sharb?"

Listen for the singing noise it makes, then you are on the right track.

Hope that helps.

>>34038423
Once you see the quality that's standard in a $100+ knife those $20 ones feel cheap. I've noticed even the better ones usually have some kind of a flaw, be it the steel, materials, or the F&F.
>>34038453
I always liked using diamond stones, those DMT ones are great. Especially for harder PM steels.

>>34041827
>really high priced designer knives come with no edge at all to give the buyer full freedom

That's not true at all.
>>34042101
They really upped their game the past few years, switching to CTS XHP as their standard for their upper end knives from AUS 8 was a huge jump.

>>34054076
Once you put a good edge on all you really have to do is hone it to maintain the edge. I haven't had to reset the edge on most of my knives in months.

>>34037386
STEP 1
>Acquire sharpening tool I.E. the thing in your pic or something else, a whet stone, w/e
STEP 2
>Wet the stone with Water OR Mineral Oil
STEP 3
>Place your blade edge on the sharpener at your desired angle (Bigger the angle, the duller the edge)
STEP 4
>Rub the blade on the sharpener from base to tip using small circular motions.
>Repeat 50-100 times on both sides
STEP 5
>Use a Honing Rod to buff away any curled steel on your blade edge as well as giving your edge uniformity.

This is how my Dad taught me, as well as my old sushi-chef boss.

>>34054238
>50-100 times on both sides

holy shit that's way too much

>>34036108
Spyderco is inexplicably fixated on ring openers. It's become part of their brand now, so i don't see them ditching it any time soon.

>>34054372
50-100 is what my old Korean boss told me. Can now get a knife sharp enough to cut a hair with it's own weight. But then again, you probably don't need a basic utility knife to be that sharp.

>>34054762
It's been their signature thing since the beginning, so I can't blame them.

Fortunately they offer other opening options - they have quite a few flippers, a few Emerson openers, and you can do the "Benchmade flick" with their compression or ball lock knives - so you've got options if you like Spyderco's quality or overall designs but don't like the hole.

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>>34035273
>Benchmade
Plebs, when will they learn?

>>34035323
>>34035372
>>34035513
>>34036036
>>34036427
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>>34045094
>>34053994

see
>>34053912

>>34043581
Nice deflection my dude, he caught your lie. Why you trying to backstep now it's not working

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>>34035273
It sounds like you need one of pic related. It's a Japanese design with a superior laminated steel blade that allows for a harder edge than other knives, which helps it cut cleaner and maintain its edge for longer. Mine came extremely sharp out of the box. They are also incredibly fast to open and close, second only to a double action switchblade.

>>34056969
Emerson with Wave festure is deployed more quickly than your flea market gook shit and fast than any otf auto

>>34058194
*feature

>>34056969
How many times was it folded?

>>34037791
>pristine knives
>factory edges
opinion discarded

>>34058194
But how quickly and easily can you put it away with one hand after using it?

>>34036067
>he carries his kitchen knives to the job site to cut his lunch up
>he cuts his lunch up with his keys
you disgust me

>>34058675
pretty easily m8

>>34058430
Wrong. The Benchmade was my EDC for around 18 months, and the Lionsteel for the last 6 months, and neither has a factory edge. (Both have been reprofiled to 30* on a Lansky and sharpened many times on a Sharpmaker.)

The Delica and Sebenza are pristine, but that's because the Sebenza is only a week old and the Delica wasn't bought to be carried, though it's been out a few times. (I do reviews and bought it as a "baseline" knife for size and weight comparisons.)

>>34041367
My kershaw emerson was crazy sharp too

>>34058960
What kind of Lionsteel is that BTW?

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>>34060529
It's a TRE G10. Really nice little knife, nice steel, nice machining, and flips really well with a strong detent. (Unlike the original TRE.) Ridiculously light, too.

>>34060564
Also before that other guy says it, that pic was taken right after I got the knife, so it still had the factory edge.

>>34060564
Oh. Didn't realize it was that small. My EDC rotates between a Benchmade 710 and a Manix 2 XL so I'd prefer that in a 4 inch version.

>>34035459
Did they replace the blade as well?

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Own about seven Benchmade knives. The only one that wasn't hair shaving sharp was my 943 which just has bad geometry in general and was still functionally sharp. I've contacted 3 times for pocket clips/screws and I've always got them within a week for free.

Owned one Spyderco, contacted them for washers and they told me they don't send parts out.

Really makes you think.

>>34035459
>i called them yesterday a month ago

That makes no sense. You lie.