What does the forward assist do? From what I understand, there's

I wish I could tell you but Im an AK fag

>>34030746
ive always though it was for if for whatever reason the bolt doesnt move all the way forward you could use it to push it but the more i hear about stealthy ways of charging i think its more for that.

If you do a brass check you tap the forward assist just to make sure the bolt is fully closed

>>34030746
Equivalent of smacking the bolt shut on an AK or some other rifle with a reciprocating charging handle.

>>34030802
This.

Only practical thing you could use it for. You try to fix a malfunction with it and it'll most likely make it worse.

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>>34030746
I use it all the time. I have a couple shitty builds that don't go into battery all the way when initially charged, pushing that button does the trick. It's also handy when the chamber is exceptionally dirty.

I personally think it's useful in certain limited scenarios. There's definitely no reason to NOT have it

>>34030746
The forward assist exists as an emergency means to seat the bolt if the rifle is dirty. The charging handle only moves the bolt rearward, a spring moves it forward. So if you charge with the charging handle and it doesn't go all the way home, the handle won't push it the rest of the way.

The inclusion of the forward assist is minorly controversial, and Stoner himself didn't like it, but it's supposed to be a last ditch measure when the choice is between forcing your dirt rifle into battery and risking a KB, or having a rifle that doesn't work at all.
>>34030786
The "muh stealth" is something that came about after the fact. The Army forced the AR design change because the requistions loves them some manual seating. Same reason the SCAR has a reciprocating charging handle.

>>34030746
I use it for loading rounds silently, and also for making sure the bolt is,closed all the way whenever I do a brass check. Aside from that, moat things can be done with thd chadging handle, albeit slightly less conveniently.

>>34030829
>all these grammatical errors

Aaaand that's why I should double check when posting mobile.

>>34030746
>I made another thread about the assist mommy!

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>>34030746
>can't be done by using the charging handle.

According to Counter-Strike Source that's how you chamber the first round of a magazine.

when you have a dirty rifles, and or weak ammo, your rifle might not fully cycle. since the charging handle is non reciprocating and in an awkward position. you tap the forward assist.

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The official use is to stealthily chamber a round. In vietnam the sound of a whole platoon racking their M16's before attacking a village would alert Charlie. The forward assist allows a soldier to ride the charging handle home, then quietly *click* the bullet into battery.

>>34030860
holy shit you weren't kidding, this is cringy as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDiq0weF5Wk

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>>34030746
It ratchets the bolt closed. That's it. It exists because there's no milled in charging handle that you can smack forward like on an AK.

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To avoid this.

>>34030904
W-what happened

>>34030904
wtf

>>34030935
>>34030936
firing out of battery

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>>34030903
To clarify, in certain situations the bolt may not go fully into battery (weak ammo, riding the charging handle to chamber a round quietly, checking to see if you have a round in the chamber, slightly deformed brass, etc) in such situations pressing the AR forward assist serves the same function as tapping the charging handle on an AK, it forces the bolt all the way into battery.

>>34030816
I dont think forward assists are particularly useful but saying that forcing a cartridge to chamber will make the problem worse is not true in most situation. Either the problem is something like dirt, which will not be a problem or its something like a stuck case, which will be easy to notice and extremely difficult to force your way past.

>>34030786
>t. Guy who just watch forgotten weapons on the PSG1

>>34030901
They must have updated it. Used to pull back on the forward assist like a charging handle

>>34030816
well, unless you think modern techniques are dumb and hipster and you refuse to rotate the gun 30 degrees to visually see if there's a clusterfuck double feed or just the round needing to be pushed in a little bit, then yea, you deserve to slam that forward assist and turn a simple clearing procedure into one where you're throwing and banging the gun around like a gorilla.

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>>34030816
> You try to fix a malfunction with it and it'll most likely make it worse.
Stop spreading this bullshit.

There was a procedure outlined in a Vietnam era manual I saw where when exiting water, and trying to stay a quiet as possible, you would pull the charging handle back slightly to allow air into the chamber to let the barrel drain. Then you would ride the handle forward, and push the forward assist to make sure the bolt was in battery.

>>34030901
You're thinking of CS 1.6
https://youtu.be/geYz78dxa6o

>>34031438
I can only imagine the uploader of this video was 13 at the time he did it.

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>>34030894
>In vietnam the sound of a whole platoon racking their M16's before attacking a village would alert Charlie

and this couldn't be solved by cambering a round before being within listening distance from the said village?

Eugene stoner said that froward assists were for GAYS and he wasn't wrong

>>34030746
The M-16 comic book manual shows using it to close the bolt when you pull it back a bit to let the water out of the barrel.

I like it for doing brass checks or just making sure I didn't limp wrist the charging handle.

I wouldn't use it for fixing malfunctions. Honestly you are better off just pulling the CH back, picking up your AR and slamming the buttstock on the ground.

>everybody mentioning the quietly chambering a round meme

How about you just thumb that big ass scallop in the side of the bolt carrier instead?

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>>34030746
These guys nailed it, but I just want to thank you for not unironically using the phrase 'red pill'.

>>34030746
the little notch where the oiling holes on the bolt carry group was the original forward assist

you were supposed to jam it shut with your thumb with the dust cover open

>>34033184
Because that's retarded when there's a big fat "button" that does it better sitting right there?

>>34033232
>>34033184
Do that without gloves after shooting a bit and tell me how it goes.

>>34031350

In all honesty it can make things worse in some fringe cases. Its not likely but there are times when ammo is out of spec or otherwise damaged that forcing in a chamber to be fired can cause an issue. Usually its just dirt in the chamber stopping the round being chambered but it could be anything from a deformed case to a deformed bullet.

When i dont have a round chamber i throw it out and inspect it later. Especially since they are primarily reloads. You dont fuck around with potential KBs.

Still with new factory produced ammo the chances of the assist causing more damage is so minimal i wouldnt worry about it.

Why do idiots claim the forward assist is bad? There isn't a single con to it's exsistance.

>>34030818
>There's definitely no reason to NOT have it
Aesthetics, forward assists look like shit

>>34031350
How often do you think about licking his stinky sweaty feet

>>34033465
It was created for the sole purpose of covering one's ass.
You really need to know the origin of the "device" to understand why it is not necessary.

>>34033752
>covering your own ass is a bad thing now

>>34033465
It's unnecessary weight but that's about it.

>>34030746
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_assist
Do an internet search faggot.

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>>34030842
>being insecure enough to make this post

>>34033465
>Adds extra weight
>Encourages you to fuck up a malfunction even worse than it is
>Could potentially snag on something
>If you hit it too hard you might crack the bolt

>>34033887
>if I keep saying stupid memes they'll come true

It's the commiefornia-mandated bullet button.

>>34033887
>if you hit it too hard you might crack the bolt
This is the stupidest thing I've read here all day. You're not supposed to mash it for starters, and secondly the FA itself would break before the bolt did.

>>34033886
Meh, I just hate looking like an illiterate. Even if nobody knows who I am.

>>34033455
Okay so you are trying to do the "quietly chambering a round" after some shooting? uhhuh, sure thing.

>>34030746
I had my bolt not seat completely the other day on my beater AR when I pussy handed the charging bolt. I used it then. It has it's purpose.

>bolts not locking completely
>need a device to assist in the cases this happens so you don't waste a round charging it again

the fuck

sounds like it exists solely because limp wristed faggots are trying to fondle their guns

>>34031350
Ammo's cheap. If one round is being a pain, just cycle it out. If the problem occurs twice in a row, inspecting the gun will always be better than jamming the cartridge in. Maybe your gun is just being weird and the problem will go away, but maybe the problem is much more significant and can lead to very bad things.

>>34033887
>my extra weight!

Its not even an ounce, faggot.

>>34030746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPD6MlBsu0I

>>34035032
>but maybe the problem is much more significant and can lead to very bad things.
And maybe you'll fucking die in your sleep tonight. Do you have any goddamned idea how hard it is to create a bad situation by just giving the BCG a fucking tap? I swear to Christ you parrots just assume every situation where a round doesn't feed properly has a big chance of turning into some shit that needs a gunsmith to fix or a KB just because you decided to give shit a tiny nudge.

>>34030952
Bolt is closed moron

>>34030894
>The official use is to stealthily chamber a round.
No.

>>34039761
That after it was pushed back by the spring.

>>34033474
you uncultured swine. A naked upper receiver like that is about as appealing as an uncut dick, faggot

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>>34042586

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>>34042586
Foreskin is pretty great actually, Goldstein.